Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

That's what is disconcerting about this event. I had not used the card in 
several weeks before busting it out at the PXG shop. 
The correct human from Central Piedmont Community College is supposed to call 
me today to see if I can go after the student. I will likely call the PXG shop 
and let them know what has happened. 
I appreciate Chase’s on the ball-ness in this whole event. 

AZBob

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> On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:46 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple of years ago, my niece called me up and asked me to pay the $50 
> monthly rent on her storage unit, because it was 150 miles away from her and 
> she didn't have a CC.
> 
> I whipped out my $500 credit line card that I keep for potentially sketchy 
> uses, called the storage facility, and gave them all the card info over the 
> phone.
> 7:30pm I get the fraud text from Chase, somebody tried to pay a $200+ Verizon 
> bill with it. Made me want to drive up to Houghton Lake and dismember the guy 
> I talked to on the phone 6 hours earlier, even though it didn't cost me 
> anything.
> Chase mailed me a new card. I hadn't used that thing in months, so it would 
> be a massive coincidence if that happened without somebody at the storage 
> facility stealing it.
> 
> Now I know to call and ask for a one time disposable card number for 
> purchases like that.
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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is compromised 
rather than an employee there stealing the information. That also has a lot to 
do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card number has to be sold and used 
quickly, before the card issuer can find out it’s compromised and kill the card.

Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a liquor 
store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. All three hits 
were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like a bowling alley.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 7:47 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's what is disconcerting about this event. I had not used the card in 
> several weeks before busting it out at the PXG shop. 
> The correct human from Central Piedmont Community College is supposed to call 
> me today to see if I can go after the student. I will likely call the PXG 
> shop and let them know what has happened. 
> I appreciate Chase’s on the ball-ness in this whole event. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:46 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A couple of years ago, my niece called me up and asked me to pay the $50 
>> monthly rent on her storage unit, because it was 150 miles away from her and 
>> she didn't have a CC.
>> 
>> I whipped out my $500 credit line card that I keep for potentially sketchy 
>> uses, called the storage facility, and gave them all the card info over the 
>> phone.
>> 7:30pm I get the fraud text from Chase, somebody tried to pay a $200+ 
>> Verizon bill with it. Made me want to drive up to Houghton Lake and 
>> dismember the guy I talked to on the phone 6 hours earlier, even though it 
>> didn't cost me anything.
>> Chase mailed me a new card. I hadn't used that thing in months, so it would 
>> be a massive coincidence if that happened without somebody at the storage 
>> facility stealing it.
>> 
>> Now I know to call and ask for a one time disposable card number for 
>> purchases like that.
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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Looked at the listing photo and made me think of my first Mercedes a 240D
with stick shift. Someone decided that I didn't need hub caps and took all
four. At that time, I had trouble trying to replace them. Dependable ride,
but winters weren't much fun. I think I had it in the mid-80's, do not
remember what year it was?

Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I have to admit I don't miss worrying if my 240D would start in sub zero 
temperatures. I don't think I ever got one to start unassisted below -10F. My 
'98 Jetta TDI started unassisted at -20F once. It's never been that cold since 
I got my '15 Jetta TDI but I bet it would start no problems well into negative 
double digits.

-Curt




On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 08:04:48 AM EST, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Looked at the listing photo and made me think of my first Mercedes a 240D
with stick shift. Someone decided that I didn't need hub caps and took all
four. At that time, I had trouble trying to replace them. Dependable ride,
but winters weren't much fun. I think I had it in the mid-80's, do not
remember what year it was?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT  91k
2002 BMW 525i  231K
Oregonia, Ohio

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[MBZ] This might be a very reasonable deal WAGON -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class 4matic, $2, 599

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

170kmi but looks decent

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[MBZ] Extra 1 in price 2006 Mercedes-Benz e 500,$1,500

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If you needed and engine and trans and some other bits maybe

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[MBZ] Needs some things -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220s,$1,500

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Re: [MBZ] Needs some things -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220s,$1,500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

“Very little rust”.

Relatively speaking?

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
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[MBZ] Probably didn't run when parked -- Barn find 1965 Mercedes 220S Sedan, $3, 300

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[MBZ] IT HAS LEATHER SUNROOF 2015 Mercedes-Benz e 500 Hatchback 2D, $24, 998

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And some extra doors

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[MBZ] Got a new engine rebuilt and put in last year on 3-21, new engine has 125, 000 miles on it.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 It all makes perfect sense


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$15,000

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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS LEATHER SUNROOF 2015 Mercedes-Benz e 500 Hatchback 2D, $24, 998

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That’s a pretty good deal as long as it doesn’t have any issues.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 10:55 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And some extra doors
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/471302445156234
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Re: [MBZ] Needs some things -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220s,$1,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

everything is relative!

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On 12/16/22 10:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

“Very little rust”.

Relatively speaking?

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Needs some things -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220s,$1,500

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

When compared to a very rusty thing.

-Curt


On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:54:02 AM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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“Very little rust”.

Relatively speaking?

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/475248641393039
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[MBZ] I won’t move a finger to help you get the title. 2007 Mercedes-Benz ml500 4 matic,$2,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No title, parts car, firm price is only for parts so please save you 
questions.


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I assume the bullet hit a major artery.

Randy

On 15/12/2022 7:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

There were some comments FWIW in another post about this incident that referred 
to a Glock, 32? maybe ( I know nothing about Glocks), that apparently was prone 
to firing when not intended due to no safety and being ready to fire, getting 
knocked or something. There might have been a report about the Glock and a 
spent casing in the car, and of course the bullet and the damaged groinal area.

--FT
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On Dec 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:

I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm
hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the
tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then
it was easy to control.

If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol
requires a holster to be safe.

Greg



Semi-automatic.

The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic
pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets.
Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to
spontaneous discharge.

In any case the gene 🧬 pool was cleansed though no indication that he
was a doting father

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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My gf had her Visa card hacked several times when in Naples. It seems FL is
a hotbed for CC fraudsters.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:59 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is
> compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. That
> also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card number has
> to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find out it’s
> compromised and kill the card.
>
> Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a
> liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. All
> three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like a
> bowling alley.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 16, 2022, at 7:47 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's what is disconcerting about this event. I had not used the card
> in several weeks before busting it out at the PXG shop.
> > The correct human from Central Piedmont Community College is supposed to
> call me today to see if I can go after the student. I will likely call the
> PXG shop and let them know what has happened.
> > I appreciate Chase’s on the ball-ness in this whole event.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:46 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A couple of years ago, my niece called me up and asked me to pay the
> $50 monthly rent on her storage unit, because it was 150 miles away from
> her and she didn't have a CC.
> >>
> >> I whipped out my $500 credit line card that I keep for potentially
> sketchy uses, called the storage facility, and gave them all the card info
> over the phone.
> >> 7:30pm I get the fraud text from Chase, somebody tried to pay a $200+
> Verizon bill with it. Made me want to drive up to Houghton Lake and
> dismember the guy I talked to on the phone 6 hours earlier, even though it
> didn't cost me anything.
> >> Chase mailed me a new card. I hadn't used that thing in months, so it
> would be a massive coincidence if that happened without somebody at the
> storage facility stealing it.
> >>
> >> Now I know to call and ask for a one time disposable card number for
> purchases like that.
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[MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ripe for the plucking.
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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I wouldn’t say it’s any worse that other states. I’ve only had it happen once 
in over 20 years here.

I suspect that Naples is a far better place to be grabbing credit card numbers 
considering the demographics. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it.

-D

On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My gf had her Visa card hacked several times when in Naples. It seems FL is a 
hotbed for CC fraudsters.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:59 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is compromised 
rather than an employee there stealing the information. That also has a lot to 
do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card number has to be sold and used 
quickly, before the card issuer can find out it’s compromised and kill the card.

Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a liquor 
store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. All three hits 
were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like a bowling alley.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 7:47 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> That's what is disconcerting about this event. I had not used the card in 
> several weeks before busting it out at the PXG shop.
> The correct human from Central Piedmont Community College is supposed to call 
> me today to see if I can go after the student. I will likely call the PXG 
> shop and let them know what has happened.
> I appreciate Chase’s on the ball-ness in this whole event.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:46 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> A couple of years ago, my niece called me up and asked me to pay the $50 
>> monthly rent on her storage unit, because it was 150 miles away from her and 
>> she didn't have a CC.
>>
>> I whipped out my $500 credit line card that I keep for potentially sketchy 
>> uses, called the storage facility, and gave them all the card info over the 
>> phone.
>> 7:30pm I get the fraud text from Chase, somebody tried to pay a $200+ 
>> Verizon bill with it. Made me want to drive up to Houghton Lake and 
>> dismember the guy I talked to on the phone 6 hours earlier, even though it 
>> didn't cost me anything.
>> Chase mailed me a new card. I hadn't used that thing in months, so it would 
>> be a massive coincidence if that happened without somebody at the storage 
>> facility stealing it.
>>
>> Now I know to call and ask for a one time disposable card number for 
>> purchases like that.
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Re: [MBZ] Needs some things -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220s,$1,500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Super low 18,000 mile example of an enduring 1 million mile classic.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:07 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> When compared to a very rusty thing.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:54:02 AM EST, dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> “Very little rust”.
>
> Relatively speaking?
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 16, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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"Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"

Mirthmobile

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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Worth $10.00 when new
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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> "Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"
>
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>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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Not really all that bad when new. My mother-in-law had one. The worst 
thing about the one she had was the colour. It was that sort of caramel 
colour.


Randy


On 16/12/2022 1:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Worth $10.00 when new
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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"Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"

Mirthmobile

-D


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Ripe for the plucking.
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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except for gas 
pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card info. For 
"chip" transactions it's supposed to be difficult/impossible because the clear 
text card info is never transmitted.


On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 07:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is 
> compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. 
> That also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card 
> number has to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find 
> out it’s compromised and kill the card.
>
> Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a 
> liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. 
> All three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like 
> a bowling alley.
>
> -D
>

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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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Unless the retailer has grossly out of date equipment (and is wy out of 
compliance), the card information is never sent in the clear. It’s encrypted at 
the time it’s read and transmitted that way. That’s part of PCIE P2PE standard 
version 3.0 Domain 1 (2019). Since you have to work with a card processor, it’s 
highly unlikely this could be the case, as I can’t imagine there are any card 
processors out there who aren’t compliant with the latest standard.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except for 
> gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card info. 
> For "chip" transactions it's supposed to be difficult/impossible because the 
> clear text card info is never transmitted.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 07:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is 
>> compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. 
>> That also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card 
>> number has to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find 
>> out it’s compromised and kill the card.
>> 
>> Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a 
>> liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. 
>> All three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like 
>> a bowling alley.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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And just to clarify, if someone has put a card “skimmer” on the reader, that’s 
a totally different situation. You only need a card reader to get the data off 
the magnetic stripe. If it’s a retail POS terminal that data is encrypted when 
the card is swiped.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unless the retailer has grossly out of date equipment (and is wy out of 
> compliance), the card information is never sent in the clear. It’s encrypted 
> at the time it’s read and transmitted that way. That’s part of PCIE P2PE 
> standard version 3.0 Domain 1 (2019). Since you have to work with a card 
> processor, it’s highly unlikely this could be the case, as I can’t imagine 
> there are any card processors out there who aren’t compliant with the latest 
> standard.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except for 
>> gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card info. 
>> For "chip" transactions it's supposed to be difficult/impossible because the 
>> clear text card info is never transmitted.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 07:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is 
>>> compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. 
>>> That also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card 
>>> number has to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find 
>>> out it’s compromised and kill the card.
>>> 
>>> Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a 
>>> liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. 
>>> All three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like 
>>> a bowling alley.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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Yeah I meant that the card info is in clear text on the mag stripe. Anything 
that can read that (skimmer, or compromised POS system) can steal card numbers. 
I've got a USB mag stripe reader somewhere and I've tried it with my own cards 
on my personal computer.


On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 15:47, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> And just to clarify, if someone has put a card “skimmer” on the reader, 
> that’s a totally different situation. You only need a card reader to 
> get the data off the magnetic stripe. If it’s a retail POS terminal 
> that data is encrypted when the card is swiped.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Unless the retailer has grossly out of date equipment (and is wy out of 
>> compliance), the card information is never sent in the clear. It’s encrypted 
>> at the time it’s read and transmitted that way. That’s part of PCIE P2PE 
>> standard version 3.0 Domain 1 (2019). Since you have to work with a card 
>> processor, it’s highly unlikely this could be the case, as I can’t imagine 
>> there are any card processors out there who aren’t compliant with the latest 
>> standard.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except for 
>>> gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card info. 
>>> For "chip" transactions it's supposed to be difficult/impossible because 
>>> the clear text card info is never transmitted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 07:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is 
 compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. 
 That also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card 
 number has to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find 
 out it’s compromised and kill the card.
 
 Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a 
 liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. 
 All three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like 
 a bowling alley.
 
 -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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Correct. There’s nothing that protects the data on the magnetic stripe.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I meant that the card info is in clear text on the mag stripe. Anything 
> that can read that (skimmer, or compromised POS system) can steal card 
> numbers. I've got a USB mag stripe reader somewhere and I've tried it with my 
> own cards on my personal computer.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 15:47, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> And just to clarify, if someone has put a card “skimmer” on the reader, 
>> that’s a totally different situation. You only need a card reader to 
>> get the data off the magnetic stripe. If it’s a retail POS terminal 
>> that data is encrypted when the card is swiped.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unless the retailer has grossly out of date equipment (and is wy out of 
>>> compliance), the card information is never sent in the clear. It’s 
>>> encrypted at the time it’s read and transmitted that way. That’s part of 
>>> PCIE P2PE standard version 3.0 Domain 1 (2019). Since you have to work with 
>>> a card processor, it’s highly unlikely this could be the case, as I can’t 
>>> imagine there are any card processors out there who aren’t compliant with 
>>> the latest standard.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except 
 for gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card 
 info. For "chip" transactions it's supposed to be difficult/impossible 
 because the clear text card info is never transmitted.
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 07:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is 
> compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. 
> That also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card 
> number has to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find 
> out it’s compromised and kill the card.
> 
> Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a 
> liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. 
> All three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like 
> a bowling alley.
> 
> -D
> 
 
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[MBZ] engine over heated, 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300sd Sedan 4D, $2, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

S350 badge

1991 350sd Mercedes S class 134k miles on the block. Ox blood red 
leather interior only 200 made world wide with ox blood red leather 
interior in this sought after year of 1990-1991. Mono block AMG rims 18” 
Tires on the back have only around 300 miles on them and the front tires 
pretty fresh around 1-2k miles on them. The engine over heated, I’m told 
it needs a radiator, head gasket, battery, passenger window switch. Open 
to trades or engine swap offers


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Re: [MBZ] engine over heated, 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300sd Sedan 4D, $2, 200

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The rare ox blood red interior somewhat less impressive with the presumably 
trashed front seats (unless they are covered to protect them).

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 16:09, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> S350 badge
>
> 1991 350sd Mercedes S class 134k miles on the block. Ox blood red 
> leather interior only 200 made world wide with ox blood red leather 
> interior in this sought after year of 1990-1991. Mono block AMG rims 18” 
> Tires on the back have only around 300 miles on them and the front tires 
> pretty fresh around 1-2k miles on them. The engine over heated, I’m told 
> it needs a radiator, head gasket, battery, passenger window switch. Open 
> to trades or engine swap offers
>
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[MBZ] GL320CDI with tow pkg and Salt Life sticker, looks quite nice -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl-class, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Low price makes one wonder what is wrong with it.  Camper in the 
background, maybe towed that with the vehicle?  Tires look good, seats 
look good


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/537505051636389

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[MBZ] 1997 E320 (AMG) - 135K miles - $5,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The elusive 10-cylinder E230 AMG!

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-beautiful-1997-mercedes-always/7569057084.html

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[MBZ] Short version of the legendary OM606 superdiesel 1998 Mercedes-Benz e300 td, $3, 800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Extra 0 in the price

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8486725868067344

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[MBZ] 1985 500SEL - 90k miles - $17,400

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

needs fuel tank plus fuel lines
needs brake lines and calibers all round
needs new muffler & tail pipe
trans leak in front tranny area
vehicle sat in garage last 10 years

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/aurora-1985-mercedes-benz-500sel/7568943576.html

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[MBZ] 1994 S500 - 150k miles - $1,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Might not be a bad deal if engine misfire isn't serious. Center console wood is 
peeling but looks halfway nice otherwise.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/yorkville-1994-mercedes-s500/7568837576.html
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Re: [MBZ] engine over heated, 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300sd Sedan 4D, $2, 200

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I think it’s safe to assume they are trashed 

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> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The rare ox blood red interior somewhat less impressive with the presumably 
> trashed front seats (unless they are covered to protect them).
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 16:09, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> S350 badge
>> 
>> 1991 350sd Mercedes S class 134k miles on the block. Ox blood red 
>> leather interior only 200 made world wide with ox blood red leather 
>> interior in this sought after year of 1990-1991. Mono block AMG rims 18” 
>> Tires on the back have only around 300 miles on them and the front tires 
>> pretty fresh around 1-2k miles on them. The engine over heated, I’m told 
>> it needs a radiator, head gasket, battery, passenger window switch. Open 
>> to trades or engine swap offers
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2785899974874012
>> 
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[MBZ] Extra sticky tires -- runs damn good interiors fracted 2000 MERCEDES-BENZ - $3, 000 (Jacksonville)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Some sort of 163 ML

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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sold for exactly $10k.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Not really all that bad when new. My mother-in-law had one. The worst
> thing about the one she had was the colour. It was that sort of caramel
> colour.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 16/12/2022 1:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > Worth $10.00 when new
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Bissell Cove
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"
> >>
> >> Mirthmobile
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> Mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> Ripe for the plucking.
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 500SEL - 90k miles - $17,400

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The market is strong for trashed SELs!

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On 12/16/22 4:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

needs fuel tank plus fuel lines
needs brake lines and calibers all round
needs new muffler & tail pipe
trans leak in front tranny area
vehicle sat in garage last 10 years

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/aurora-1985-mercedes-benz-500sel/7568943576.html

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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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yes my father had Pacers & Gremlins. I thought they were ugly but he got
200k miles out of several of them.

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> Sold for exactly $10k.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not really all that bad when new. My mother-in-law had one. The worst
> > thing about the one she had was the colour. It was that sort of caramel
> > colour.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On 16/12/2022 1:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Worth $10.00 when new
> > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > > Bissell Cove
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"
> > >>
> > >> Mirthmobile
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > >> Mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>> Ripe for the plucking.
> > >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-amc-pacer-d-l-station-wagon/
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[MBZ] Somewhat interesting 300SD with heated seats

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Paint is shot, tranny appears to be shot, but what makes it interesting is the 
fact that is has heated seats, which is rare on a SD. Problem is, it appears to 
have had the seats recovered with horrible aftermarket material so I doubt the 
heated seats actually work. 

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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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They were odd looking cars. My M-I-L had 2 Gremlins before the Pacer. A 
green one and another of the caramel coloured ones.


Randy

On 16/12/2022 4:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

yes my father had Pacers & Gremlins. I thought they were ugly but he got
200k miles out of several of them.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 4:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Sold for exactly $10k.

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Not really all that bad when new. My mother-in-law had one. The worst
thing about the one she had was the colour. It was that sort of caramel
colour.

Randy


On 16/12/2022 1:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Worth $10.00 when new
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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"Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"

Mirthmobile

-D


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Ripe for the plucking.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-amc-pacer-d-l-station-wagon/
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Re: [MBZ] engine over heated, 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300sd Sedan 4D, $2, 200

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As is the engine.

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> I think it’s safe to assume they are trashed
>
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> > The rare ox blood red interior somewhat less impressive with the
> presumably trashed front seats (unless they are covered to protect them).
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 16:09, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> S350 badge
> >>
> >> 1991 350sd Mercedes S class 134k miles on the block. Ox blood red
> >> leather interior only 200 made world wide with ox blood red leather
> >> interior in this sought after year of 1990-1991. Mono block AMG rims
> 18”
> >> Tires on the back have only around 300 miles on them and the front
> tires
> >> pretty fresh around 1-2k miles on them. The engine over heated, I’m
> told
> >> it needs a radiator, head gasket, battery, passenger window switch.
> Open
> >> to trades or engine swap offers
> >>
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[MBZ] Sad, gets worse the further you go into the pics

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S500 - 150k miles - $1,500

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Very negotiable.  Console wood is easy to find/refinish/replace for a
couple hundred.

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> Might not be a bad deal if engine misfire isn't serious. Center console
> wood is peeling but looks halfway nice otherwise.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sad, gets worse the further you go into the pics

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The photo gallery is the opposite of a happy ending.

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Re: [MBZ] Short version of the legendary OM606 superdiesel 1998 Mercedes-Benz e300 td, $3, 800

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Great candidate for a PU truck conversion.

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> Extra 0 in the price
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8486725868067344
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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI with tow pkg and Salt Life sticker, looks quite nice -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl-class, $4, 500

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Very fair price if everything works. Are these German or AL made?

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> Low price makes one wonder what is wrong with it.  Camper in the
> background, maybe towed that with the vehicle?  Tires look good, seats
> look good
>
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Re: [MBZ] Short version of the legendary OM606 superdiesel 1998 Mercedes-Benz e300 td, $3, 800

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Some dummy will probably come along a pay that much for it. 

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> Great candidate for a PU truck conversion.
> 
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>> 
>> Extra 0 in the price
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8486725868067344
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Extra sticky tires -- runs damn good interiors fracted 2000 MERCEDES-BENZ - $3, 000 (Jacksonville)

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On 2022-12-16 16:44, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Some sort of 163 ML

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-2000-mercedes-benz/7569034856.html


Not a ML55 is it?

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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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> 
> If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except for 
> gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card info.

At our Park, 99% of credit card transactions are handled _entirely_ by the PIN 
pad.
This is normal now.  Our bank charges more if we process the credit card 
ourselves,
which we can still do if there's a problem with the pads.  When the pad does 
the work,
we _never_ see the CC information.

The human factor remains the weak link.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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> Correct. There’s nothing that protects the data on the magnetic stripe.

Nor the photograph of the number printed on the card.

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Re: [MBZ] Credit Card Info Nicked

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Absolutely. And most retailers need your express consent to manually enter your 
CC number into the POS/PIN pad. That’s actually a PCI requirement as well, but 
I question how often it’s done.

I’ve had cashiers ask me as I’ve got a CC with a bodged up magnetic stripe 
which I really need to get replaced.

-D

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> 
>> 
>> 
>> If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except for 
>> gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card info.
> 
> At our Park, 99% of credit card transactions are handled _entirely_ by the 
> PIN pad.
> This is normal now.  Our bank charges more if we process the credit card 
> ourselves,
> which we can still do if there's a problem with the pads.  When the pad does 
> the work,
> we _never_ see the CC information.
> 
> The human factor remains the weak link.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Extra sticky tires -- runs damn good interiors fracted 2000 MERCEDES-BENZ - $3, 000 (Jacksonville)

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Can’t tell 

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> On 2022-12-16 16:44, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
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>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-2000-mercedes-benz/7569034856.html
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Re: [MBZ] Sad, gets worse the further you go into the pics

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A floor jack and 2x4 would fix that roof. Might be able to find glass. Great 
rat rod basis. 

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Re: [MBZ] Sad, gets worse the further you go into the pics

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I have the metalworking skill to take that roof and fender back to like
new. It could be saved if the rest of the car is worthy of the effort. All
steel, no bondo.

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> Great rat rod basis.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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I think American Motors cars were decent. My parents had a Rambler sedan when I 
was a young child and while I don't remember all that much about it. It was 
nothing fancy, but I think the main reason they got rid of it was rust. 
Mechanically it seemed OK.


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> yes my father had Pacers & Gremlins. I thought they were ugly but he got
> 200k miles out of several of them.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 4:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>> Sold for exactly $10k.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Not really all that bad when new. My mother-in-law had one. The worst
>> > thing about the one she had was the colour. It was that sort of caramel
>> > colour.
>> >
>> > Randy
>> >
>> >
>> > On 16/12/2022 1:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > Worth $10.00 when new
>> > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> > > Bissell Cove
>> > > Wickford RI
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> "Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"
>> > >>
>> > >> Mirthmobile
>> > >>
>> > >> -D
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>> > >>> Ripe for the plucking.
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[MBZ] 2008 E350 4matic - 127k miles - $6,800

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Would be nicer in black/black. Seems a little pricy, but "Negotiable for a 
serious buyer."

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-2008-black-mercedes-benz-e350/7569099902.html

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[MBZ] 2007 CLS550 - 38k miles - $29,750

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Low miles but $30 grand for a 15 year old car

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Re: [MBZ] 2008 E350 4matic - 127k miles - $6,800

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That’s a $5k car

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 CLS550 - 38k miles - $29,750

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Stupid ask. Maybe $10k on a good day but only because of the miles 

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Re: [MBZ] Gaudy Pacer SW still under $10k

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I had a girlfriend who had a lima bean colored Gremlin she called Lima Bean. It 
was a competent-enough little car and it’s oddness complemented her 
personality. 

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> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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> yes my father had Pacers & Gremlins. I thought they were ugly but he got
> 200k miles out of several of them.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 4:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> Sold for exactly $10k.
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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>>> Not really all that bad when new. My mother-in-law had one. The worst
>>> thing about the one she had was the colour. It was that sort of caramel
>>> colour.
>>> 
>>> Randy
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>>> On 16/12/2022 1:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
 Worth $10.00 when new
 Dwight E. Giles Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI
 
 
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> "Stop it, Wayne, you’re scaring me!"
> 
> Mirthmobile
> 
> -D
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>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>> Ripe for the plucking.
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-amc-pacer-d-l-station-wagon/
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Re: [MBZ] Sad, gets worse the further you go into the pics

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You need to buy it!

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> On Dec 16, 2022, at 9:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
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> I have the metalworking skill to take that roof and fender back to like
> new. It could be saved if the rest of the car is worthy of the effort. All
> steel, no bondo.
> 
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>> A floor jack and 2x4 would fix that roof. Might be able to find glass.
>> Great rat rod basis.
>> 
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>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1556188044853257/?mibextid=6ojiHh
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 CLS550 - 38k miles - $29,750

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Do people ask these prices just on the chance that there's a clueless sucker 
who will pay it? Or do they really think their car is worth that?


On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 23:38, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Stupid ask. Maybe $10k on a good day but only because of the miles 
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>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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>> Low miles but $30 grand for a 15 year old car
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