Re: [MBZ] 1988 240GD

2023-07-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2023-07-28 00:24, Craig via Mercedes wrote:



The auction says it has 5 cylinders, but there are no pictures of the
engine compartment ...


AFAIK 1980s MBZ 240Ds were 4 cyl, and BMW 2.4 diesels were 6 cyl.

I believe there were 300GDs with OM617 turbos in them.
Did anything still have a OM616 in it in 1988?


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Re: [MBZ] 1988 240GD

2023-07-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 00:01:42 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yeah I do. 240 turbo diesel?  Interesting. I bet it’ll do at least
> 50mph. Would be quite the adventure driving that thing from Chitcongo
> to here. 

The auction says it has 5 cylinders, but there are no pictures of the
engine compartment ...


Craig


> > On Jul 27, 2023, at 9:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
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> > Someone must need this...
> > 
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/374840619469

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Re: [MBZ] 1988 240GD

2023-07-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah I do. 240 turbo diesel?  Interesting. I bet it’ll do at least 50mph. Would 
be quite the adventure driving that thing from Chitcongo to here. 

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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Doesn’t have an IR light for the switch?  I’m not sure how those work. 

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 11:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Nope, battery in key fob is only for remote lock 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Key battery?
>> 
>> --FT
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 20:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> No, would not have anything to do with no cranking 
>>> 
>>> I didn't really think so but wasn't sure.
>>> 
>>> I went out just now to try to start the car. It cranked maybe one cylinder 
>>> stroke then stopped. Turning the key to the start position again did 
>>> nothing. Turned the key off, then on and start and it started. Starter 
>>> sounded strong, not like a weak battery, though I've had weak batteries act 
>>> funny before. I checked the voltage with the car not running, and it was 
>>> 12.3 which seems OK.
>>> 
>>> Other thoughts that occurred to me, bad neutral gear position switch, or 
>>> bad starter switch in the dash? Would either of these set a code that might 
>>> show up if I run a scan?
>>> 
>>> I did try both keys and got the same symptoms, just to rule out a 
>>> potentially flakey key.
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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Guess it could be a relay, or the starter itself? It's kind of similar to how 
the starter in the Frontier acted just before it failed.

How much effort to pull the starter on a W211?



On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 22:31, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Nope, battery in key fob is only for remote lock 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Key battery?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 20:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 No, would not have anything to do with no cranking 
>>> 
>>> I didn't really think so but wasn't sure.
>>> 
>>> I went out just now to try to start the car. It cranked maybe one cylinder 
>>> stroke then stopped. Turning the key to the start position again did 
>>> nothing. Turned the key off, then on and start and it started. Starter 
>>> sounded strong, not like a weak battery, though I've had weak batteries act 
>>> funny before. I checked the voltage with the car not running, and it was 
>>> 12.3 which seems OK.
>>> 
>>> Other thoughts that occurred to me, bad neutral gear position switch, or 
>>> bad starter switch in the dash? Would either of these set a code that might 
>>> show up if I run a scan?
>>> 
>>> I did try both keys and got the same symptoms, just to rule out a 
>>> potentially flakey key.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nope, battery in key fob is only for remote lock 

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Key battery?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 20:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> No, would not have anything to do with no cranking 
>> 
>> I didn't really think so but wasn't sure.
>> 
>> I went out just now to try to start the car. It cranked maybe one cylinder 
>> stroke then stopped. Turning the key to the start position again did 
>> nothing. Turned the key off, then on and start and it started. Starter 
>> sounded strong, not like a weak battery, though I've had weak batteries act 
>> funny before. I checked the voltage with the car not running, and it was 
>> 12.3 which seems OK.
>> 
>> Other thoughts that occurred to me, bad neutral gear position switch, or bad 
>> starter switch in the dash? Would either of these set a code that might show 
>> up if I run a scan?
>> 
>> I did try both keys and got the same symptoms, just to rule out a 
>> potentially flakey key.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Key battery?

--FT
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 20:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> No, would not have anything to do with no cranking 
> 
> I didn't really think so but wasn't sure.
> 
> I went out just now to try to start the car. It cranked maybe one cylinder 
> stroke then stopped. Turning the key to the start position again did nothing. 
> Turned the key off, then on and start and it started. Starter sounded strong, 
> not like a weak battery, though I've had weak batteries act funny before. I 
> checked the voltage with the car not running, and it was 12.3 which seems OK.
> 
> Other thoughts that occurred to me, bad neutral gear position switch, or bad 
> starter switch in the dash? Would either of these set a code that might show 
> up if I run a scan?
> 
> I did try both keys and got the same symptoms, just to rule out a potentially 
> flakey key.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More r12 134

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
It's widely available in Indiana as well. Any auto parts store, Walmart, maybe 
even Harbor Freight has it.

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> Folks
>
> In Georgia the Walmart is full of r134a at I think $6 a can and 
> available in Georgia for shipment even
>
> Contact me if you can’t get it where you are
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> Xx rick
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[MBZ] More r12 134

2023-07-27 Thread RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes
Folks

In Georgia the Walmart is full of r134a at I think $6 a can and available in 
Georgia for shipment even

Contact me if you can’t get it where you are

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 20:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> No, would not have anything to do with no cranking 

I didn't really think so but wasn't sure.

I went out just now to try to start the car. It cranked maybe one cylinder 
stroke then stopped. Turning the key to the start position again did nothing. 
Turned the key off, then on and start and it started. Starter sounded strong, 
not like a weak battery, though I've had weak batteries act funny before. I 
checked the voltage with the car not running, and it was 12.3 which seems OK.

Other thoughts that occurred to me, bad neutral gear position switch, or bad 
starter switch in the dash? Would either of these set a code that might show up 
if I run a scan?

I did try both keys and got the same symptoms, just to rule out a potentially 
flakey key.


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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No, would not have anything to do with no cranking 

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 8:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Son had the 04 E500 today. He called me and said it would not start. I asked 
> if it was cranking or just not turning at all, he said it was doing nothing. 
> Battery had seemed OK earlier though.
> 
> I asked if there were any messages on the dash. I guess he scrolled around 
> and found a message "Add 1.5 liters of oil to fill to max level"
> 
> So I thought well maybe it's not letting him start the car because it's low 
> on oil, though 1.5 liters out of 8 doesn't sound dangerously low.
> 
> Anyway I had a jug of oil in the trunk and I told him to add about a liter. 
> He did, and the car started.
> 
> Does this sound like expected behavior?
> 
> I'm really not liking the computer running everything. Just give me a 
> dipstick and I'll keep an eye on the oil level.
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[MBZ] 1988 240GD

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Someone must need this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374840619469
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Re: [MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
yes i agree. my 2005 E320 did not have a dipstick but I found a company in
Poland that sold aftermarket ones on EBAY so I use that now. I am too old
fashioned to just trust the computer

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 9:19 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Son had the 04 E500 today. He called me and said it would not start. I
> asked if it was cranking or just not turning at all, he said it was doing
> nothing. Battery had seemed OK earlier though.
>
> I asked if there were any messages on the dash. I guess he scrolled around
> and found a message "Add 1.5 liters of oil to fill to max level"
>
> So I thought well maybe it's not letting him start the car because it's
> low on oil, though 1.5 liters out of 8 doesn't sound dangerously low.
>
> Anyway I had a jug of oil in the trunk and I told him to add about a
> liter. He did, and the car started.
>
> Does this sound like expected behavior?
>
> I'm really not liking the computer running everything. Just give me a
> dipstick and I'll keep an eye on the oil level.
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Re: [MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
If it's "recycled" no telling what it really is.


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> I'd never looked before but FB marketplace has all sorts of R12 all 
> over New England. Good tip!
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 05:34:20 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
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>
>
>
>
>> Folks
>
> There is r12 available on FB and ebay etc ….. Craigslist 
>
> I’ve bought and sold lots of it usually buying for about $10 per lb or 
> can 12oz then sold it for prob 20$    Contact me directly if you can’t 
> manage to get  enough for the car  
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Re: [MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yep. Vacuum down to empty and then fill with an R12 replacement.


On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, at 14:56, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Use some “Test Refrigerant” or Freeze 12
>
> --FT
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>> On Jul 27, 2023, at 3:35 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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>> Anyone still able to get it? The 85 300D needs a recharge and I cringe at 
>> the thought of an R134a conversion.
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[MBZ] won't start due to low oil?

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Son had the 04 E500 today. He called me and said it would not start. I asked if 
it was cranking or just not turning at all, he said it was doing nothing. 
Battery had seemed OK earlier though.

I asked if there were any messages on the dash. I guess he scrolled around and 
found a message "Add 1.5 liters of oil to fill to max level"

So I thought well maybe it's not letting him start the car because it's low on 
oil, though 1.5 liters out of 8 doesn't sound dangerously low.

Anyway I had a jug of oil in the trunk and I told him to add about a liter. He 
did, and the car started.

Does this sound like expected behavior?

I'm really not liking the computer running everything. Just give me a dipstick 
and I'll keep an eye on the oil level.
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[MBZ] Poos?

2023-07-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/groups/330074543744011/permalink/6448274071923997/


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Re: [MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I have an partially full bottle of R12 that can be available, if you can
figure a reasonable way of getting from here to there 

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Re: [MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I was looking for a case of R-134a a few months ago on eBay and there was none 
to be found. The seller I had bought it from in the past was gone, too. There 
must have been some sort of change that took place with selling refrigerants on 
eBay, I'm thinking.

-D

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I'd never looked before but FB marketplace has all sorts of R12 all over New 
England. Good tip!

-Curt


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 wrote:





> Folks

There is r12 available on FB and ebay etc ….. Craigslist

I’ve bought and sold lots of it usually buying for about $10 per lb or can 12oz 
then sold it for prob 20$Contact me directly if you can’t manage to get  
enough for the car

Xx rick

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[MBZ] Custom one if a kind body accessories. 2001 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 320 Roadster 2D, $4, 800

2023-07-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Like mismatched body parts

Lots of cash invested. Has rebuilt title.

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[MBZ] Pepto-Bismobile 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D, $1

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[MBZ] The car needs valve body transmission solenoid 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D, $3, 500

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[MBZ] don’t ask stupid questions if you got the 1650 then you could text me 1996 Mercedes-Benz sl-class Roadster 2D,$1,650

2023-07-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Looks like a 500, someone smashed the driver door glass, probably to get 
into it. I'm sure there's a tittle...


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/673295517516993

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[MBZ] was parked years ago due to the chain guides needing to be replaced. 1989 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL, $600

2023-07-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

The car is straight, would make a good car for parts or restoration.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/133745413103275

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Re: [MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd never looked before but FB marketplace has all sorts of R12 all over New 
England. Good tip!

-Curt


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> Folks

There is r12 available on FB and ebay etc ….. Craigslist 

I’ve bought and sold lots of it usually buying for about $10 per lb or can 12oz 
then sold it for prob 20$    Contact me directly if you can’t manage to get  
enough for the car  

Xx rick

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[MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes
> Folks

There is r12 available on FB and ebay etc ….. Craigslist 

I’ve bought and sold lots of it usually buying for about $10 per lb or can 12oz 
then sold it for prob 20$Contact me directly if you can’t manage to get  
enough for the car  

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Use some “Test Refrigerant” or Freeze 12

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> Anyone still able to get it? The 85 300D needs a recharge and I cringe at 
> the thought of an R134a conversion.
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 4matic - 139k miles - $5,500

2023-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
OK thanks will do

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 3:05 PM Buggered Benzmail 
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> I’m guessing a search of emails would find them
>
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>
> On Jul 27, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> 
> thanks. how do I find them?
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 10:57 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I’ve sent some write ups to the list about my polishing techniques
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>>
>> > On Jul 27, 2023, at 9:13 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > exactly like mine except my headlights are cloudy. What should I use to
>> > polish them?
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 11:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Looks pretty nice, ABS light under warranty?
>> >>
>> >> Wonder if the headlights are original, pretty rare to see them that
>> clear
>> >> at that age.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] The CDI let me down

2023-07-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nobody is available. Otherwise I would have. 

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>  wrote:
> 
> On 27/07/2023 2:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> After a trip out to the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles, 20 miles from home I 
>> got the red battery warning, no AC, and temp rapidly climbing while at 
>> highway speed. Pulled into a parking lot, no power steering. Shut car off. 
>> Belt loose. Can’t say I wasn’t warned as I thought I have been hearing some 
>> faint squeaking from belt when starter cold. I guess there was a problem. I 
>> assume either the tensioner or one of the idler pulley let loose. Put in AAA 
>> request, been waiting 1.5 hours, according to the map they are sending a 
>> driver from an hour and a half away in Arkansas.
>> 
> If you are 20 miles from home, call and get someone to pick you up and go 
> back with your truck and trailer.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The CDI let me down

2023-07-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Especially when it’s 98 outside. At least it didn’t happen in the middle of 
nowhere Texas at 104 with dust and cow crap smell everywhere. 

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Ouch. Never a fun day getting stranded. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2023, at 3:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> After a trip out to the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles, 20 miles from home I 
>> got the red battery warning, no AC, and temp rapidly climbing while at 
>> highway speed. Pulled into a parking lot, no power steering. Shut car off. 
>> Belt loose. Can’t say I wasn’t warned as I thought I have been hearing some 
>> faint squeaking from belt when starter cold. I guess there was a problem. I 
>> assume either the tensioner or one of the idler pulley let loose. Put in AAA 
>> request, been waiting 1.5 hours, according to the map they are sending a 
>> driver from an hour and a half away in Arkansas. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The CDI let me down

2023-07-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 27/07/2023 2:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

After a trip out to the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles, 20 miles from home I got 
the red battery warning, no AC, and temp rapidly climbing while at highway 
speed. Pulled into a parking lot, no power steering. Shut car off. Belt loose. 
Can’t say I wasn’t warned as I thought I have been hearing some faint squeaking 
from belt when starter cold. I guess there was a problem. I assume either the 
tensioner or one of the idler pulley let loose. Put in AAA request, been 
waiting 1.5 hours, according to the map they are sending a driver from an hour 
and a half away in Arkansas.

If you are 20 miles from home, call and get someone to pick you up and 
go back with your truck and trailer.


Randy


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[MBZ] R12

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Anyone still able to get it? The 85 300D needs a recharge and I cringe at the 
thought of an R134a conversion.

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Re: [MBZ] The CDI let me down

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ouch. Never a fun day getting stranded. Good luck.

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 3:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> After a trip out to the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles, 20 miles from home I 
> got the red battery warning, no AC, and temp rapidly climbing while at 
> highway speed. Pulled into a parking lot, no power steering. Shut car off. 
> Belt loose. Can’t say I wasn’t warned as I thought I have been hearing some 
> faint squeaking from belt when starter cold. I guess there was a problem. I 
> assume either the tensioner or one of the idler pulley let loose. Put in AAA 
> request, been waiting 1.5 hours, according to the map they are sending a 
> driver from an hour and a half away in Arkansas. 
> 
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[MBZ] The CDI let me down

2023-07-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
After a trip out to the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles, 20 miles from home I got 
the red battery warning, no AC, and temp rapidly climbing while at highway 
speed. Pulled into a parking lot, no power steering. Shut car off. Belt loose. 
Can’t say I wasn’t warned as I thought I have been hearing some faint squeaking 
from belt when starter cold. I guess there was a problem. I assume either the 
tensioner or one of the idler pulley let loose. Put in AAA request, been 
waiting 1.5 hours, according to the map they are sending a driver from an hour 
and a half away in Arkansas. 

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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 4matic - 139k miles - $5,500

2023-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
thanks. how do I find them?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 10:57 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve sent some write ups to the list about my polishing techniques
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jul 27, 2023, at 9:13 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > exactly like mine except my headlights are cloudy. What should I use to
> > polish them?
> >
> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 11:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks pretty nice, ABS light under warranty?
> >>
> >> Wonder if the headlights are original, pretty rare to see them that
> clear
> >> at that age.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Does the external lever move with the shutoff doo-dad? I've never had the 
opportunity to observe it.

-Curt




On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:19:45 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





>
> Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine
> is off.


Why?  Isn't the key still in the OFF position?  Turn key ON, but do not
start.  Observe.


> You should be able to push it down and once you let go it should spring
> back up.
>

Only if there's a vacuum leak.  Or the key is not OFF.


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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dimitri needs some additional staff for sure.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 2:03 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Or just let it idle all night every day.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 10:35 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I recommend you retain a valet whose sole responsibility is to start your
> > extensive fleet on a regular schedule to keep them in fine fettle.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 1:30 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I just got it started. It turns out it is an air leak from somewhere.
> > > Question is where? I don’t really have time to troubleshoot that right
> > now
> > > so I’ll just let it be and make sure not to let the car sit.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system,
> > letting
> > > it
> > > > drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day,
> and
> > > you
> > > > will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of
> the
> > > > lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.
> > > >
> > > >> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:37 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile,
> > I’m
> > > >> noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up
> > > position
> > > >> this morning but the car still would not start although it seems
> like
> > > it’s
> > > >> closer to starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the
> > > ignition
> > > >> off, I noticed that the lever was back in the down position and
> when I
> > > >> would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up
> while
> > > >> cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back
> > > down.
> > > >> I’m not sure what this means.
> > > >> I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dimitri, Dwight.
> > > >>> FWIW.
> > > >>> If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will
> not
> > > >>> supply fuel at all.
> > > >>> The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
> > > >>> The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
> > > >>> I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
> > > >>> Confused yet?
> > > >>> Fred
> > > >>> p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by
> the
> > > >>> wildfires.
> > > >>>
> > >  On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as
> it
> > > >> was a
> > >  daily driver. worth checking the IP.
> > > 
> > >  On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it
> > won’t
> > > > start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The
> > injector
> > > >> pump
> > > > shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem
> > > right. I
> > >  can
> > > > pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while
> > someone
> > >  else
> > > > cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it
> almost
> > >  started
> > > > a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the
> > starter
> > > >> so
> > >  I
> > > > stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a
> > > couple
> > > >> of
> > > > months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay
> > > >> ground
> > > > issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car
> > sits
> > > >> it
> > > > develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection
> > pump?
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Or just let it idle all night every day.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 10:35 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I recommend you retain a valet whose sole responsibility is to start your
> extensive fleet on a regular schedule to keep them in fine fettle.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 1:30 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I just got it started. It turns out it is an air leak from somewhere.
> > Question is where? I don’t really have time to troubleshoot that right
> now
> > so I’ll just let it be and make sure not to let the car sit.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system,
> letting
> > it
> > > drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day, and
> > you
> > > will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of the
> > > lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:37 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile,
> I’m
> > >> noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up
> > position
> > >> this morning but the car still would not start although it seems like
> > it’s
> > >> closer to starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the
> > ignition
> > >> off, I noticed that the lever was back in the down position and when I
> > >> would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up while
> > >> cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back
> > down.
> > >> I’m not sure what this means.
> > >> I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Dimitri, Dwight.
> > >>> FWIW.
> > >>> If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
> > >>> supply fuel at all.
> > >>> The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
> > >>> The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
> > >>> I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
> > >>> Confused yet?
> > >>> Fred
> > >>> p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by the
> > >>> wildfires.
> > >>>
> >  On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it
> > >> was a
> >  daily driver. worth checking the IP.
> > 
> >  On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it
> won’t
> > > start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The
> injector
> > >> pump
> > > shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem
> > right. I
> >  can
> > > pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while
> someone
> >  else
> > > cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it almost
> >  started
> > > a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the
> starter
> > >> so
> >  I
> > > stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a
> > couple
> > >> of
> > > months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay
> > >> ground
> > > issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car
> sits
> > >> it
> > > develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection
> pump?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I recommend you retain a valet whose sole responsibility is to start your
extensive fleet on a regular schedule to keep them in fine fettle.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 1:30 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I just got it started. It turns out it is an air leak from somewhere.
> Question is where? I don’t really have time to troubleshoot that right now
> so I’ll just let it be and make sure not to let the car sit.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system, letting
> it
> > drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day, and
> you
> > will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of the
> > lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:37 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile, I’m
> >> noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up
> position
> >> this morning but the car still would not start although it seems like
> it’s
> >> closer to starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the
> ignition
> >> off, I noticed that the lever was back in the down position and when I
> >> would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up while
> >> cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back
> down.
> >> I’m not sure what this means.
> >> I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dimitri, Dwight.
> >>> FWIW.
> >>> If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
> >>> supply fuel at all.
> >>> The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
> >>> The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
> >>> I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
> >>> Confused yet?
> >>> Fred
> >>> p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by the
> >>> wildfires.
> >>>
>  On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it
> >> was a
>  daily driver. worth checking the IP.
> 
>  On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t
> > start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The injector
> >> pump
> > shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem
> right. I
>  can
> > pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while someone
>  else
> > cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it almost
>  started
> > a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the starter
> >> so
>  I
> > stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a
> couple
> >> of
> > months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay
> >> ground
> > issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car sits
> >> it
> > develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection pump?
> >
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[MBZ] W212 E250 radiator replacement

2023-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The radiator on my 2014 E250 bluetec sedan needs to be replaced.  Is Valeo
a good brand?  It' advertised as OEM.  Otherwise there are Nissens and
Behr.  Not sure which is OEM or how much that matters.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I just got it started. It turns out it is an air leak from somewhere. Question 
is where? I don’t really have time to troubleshoot that right now so I’ll just 
let it be and make sure not to let the car sit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system, letting it
> drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day, and you
> will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of the
> lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:37 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile, I’m
>> noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up position
>> this morning but the car still would not start although it seems like it’s
>> closer to starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the ignition
>> off, I noticed that the lever was back in the down position and when I
>> would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up while
>> cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back down.
>> I’m not sure what this means.
>> I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dimitri, Dwight.
>>> FWIW.
>>> If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
>>> supply fuel at all.
>>> The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
>>> The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
>>> I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
>>> Confused yet?
>>> Fred
>>> p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by the
>>> wildfires.
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it
>> was a
 daily driver. worth checking the IP.
 
 On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t
> start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The injector
>> pump
> shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem right. I
 can
> pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while someone
 else
> cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it almost
 started
> a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the starter
>> so
 I
> stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a couple
>> of
> months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay
>> ground
> issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car sits
>> it
> develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection pump?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> are wearing."
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yes. Glow plug system was dealt with 2 months ago.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2023, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have you ruled out the glow plug relay (assuming it has one) and/or the gp 
> fuse?
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Probably, but that’s a lot of hassle. I think it will start if I keep 
>> cranking. I just need to charge the battery. Obviously, I need to identify 
>> the source of the air leak, if in fact that is the culprit.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > On 27/07/2023 9:34 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to starting- 
>> >> almost started but my battery is giving in.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> > Would it help to crack the injector lines one by one and bleed off any air?
>> > 
>> > Randy
>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Have you ruled out the glow plug relay (assuming it has one) and/or the gp
fuse?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably, but that’s a lot of hassle. I think it will start if I keep
> cranking. I just need to charge the battery. Obviously, I need to identify
> the source of the air leak, if in fact that is the culprit.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 27/07/2023 9:34 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to
> starting- almost started but my battery is giving in.
> >>
> >>
> > Would it help to crack the injector lines one by one and bleed off any
> air?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 4matic - 139k miles - $5,500

2023-07-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’ve sent some write ups to the list about my polishing techniques 

--FT
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 9:13 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> exactly like mine except my headlights are cloudy. What should I use to
> polish them?
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 11:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks pretty nice, ABS light under warranty?
>> 
>> Wonder if the headlights are original, pretty rare to see them that clear
>> at that age.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Probably, but that’s a lot of hassle. I think it will start if I keep cranking. 
I just need to charge the battery. Obviously, I need to identify the source of 
the air leak, if in fact that is the culprit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 27/07/2023 9:34 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to starting- 
>> almost started but my battery is giving in.
>> 
>> 
> Would it help to crack the injector lines one by one and bleed off any air?
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 27/07/2023 9:34 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to starting- almost 
started but my battery is giving in.



Would it help to crack the injector lines one by one and bleed off any air?

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to starting- almost 
started but my battery is giving in. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system, letting it
> drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day, and you
> will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of the
> lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:37 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile, I’m
>> noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up position
>> this morning but the car still would not start although it seems like it’s
>> closer to starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the ignition
>> off, I noticed that the lever was back in the down position and when I
>> would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up while
>> cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back down.
>> I’m not sure what this means.
>> I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dimitri, Dwight.
>>> FWIW.
>>> If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
>>> supply fuel at all.
>>> The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
>>> The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
>>> I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
>>> Confused yet?
>>> Fred
>>> p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by the
>>> wildfires.
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it
>> was a
 daily driver. worth checking the IP.
 
 On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t
> start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The injector
>> pump
> shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem right. I
 can
> pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while someone
 else
> cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it almost
 started
> a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the starter
>> so
 I
> stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a couple
>> of
> months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay
>> ground
> issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car sits
>> it
> develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection pump?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
So the lever should be down when the car is off and the ignition is in the off 
position and if it’s up then there is a vacuum leak?

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine 
>> is off.
> 
> Why?  Isn't the key still in the OFF position?  Turn key ON, but do not 
> start.  Observe.
>  
>> You should be able to push it down and once you let go it should spring back 
>> up. 
> 
> Only if there's a vacuum leak.  Or the key is not OFF.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>
> Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine
> is off.


Why?  Isn't the key still in the OFF position?  Turn key ON, but do not
start.  Observe.


> You should be able to push it down and once you let go it should spring
> back up.
>

Only if there's a vacuum leak.  Or the key is not OFF.

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine is 
off. You should be able to push it down and once you let go it should spring 
back up. 

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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> ... I would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up
>> while cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back
>> down. I’m not sure what this means.
>> 
> 
> It means it's working as designed.  How do you think a vacuum-powered
> mechanical shutoff should work?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system, letting it
drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day, and you
will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of the
lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:37 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile, I’m
> noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up position
> this morning but the car still would not start although it seems like it’s
> closer to starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the ignition
> off, I noticed that the lever was back in the down position and when I
> would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up while
> cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back down.
> I’m not sure what this means.
> I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dimitri, Dwight.
> > FWIW.
> > If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
> > supply fuel at all.
> > The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
> > The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
> > I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
> > Confused yet?
> > Fred
> > p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by the
> > wildfires.
> >
> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it
> was a
> >> daily driver. worth checking the IP.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t
> >>> start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The injector
> pump
> >>> shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem right. I
> >> can
> >>> pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while someone
> >> else
> >>> cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it almost
> >> started
> >>> a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the starter
> so
> >> I
> >>> stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a couple
> of
> >>> months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay
> ground
> >>> issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car sits
> it
> >>> develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection pump?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>
> ... I would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up
> while cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back
> down. I’m not sure what this means.
>

It means it's working as designed.  How do you think a vacuum-powered
mechanical shutoff should work?

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo no start

2023-07-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile, I’m 
noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up position this 
morning but the car still would not start although it seems like it’s closer to 
starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the ignition off, I 
noticed that the lever was back in the down position and when I would turn the 
ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up while cranking. Once the 
ignition was turned off the lever would fall back down. I’m not sure what this 
means.
I haven’t heard anything from my friends and relatives in Greece!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dimitri, Dwight.
> FWIW.
> If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
> supply fuel at all.
> The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
> The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
> I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you may have.
> Confused yet?
> Fred
> p.s. I hope your relatives in Greece are ok and not threatened by the
> wildfires.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it was a
>> daily driver. worth checking the IP.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t
>>> start. It glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The injector pump
>>> shut off lever is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem right. I
>> can
>>> pull it up but it just flops back down. If I hold it up while someone
>> else
>>> cranks it still won’t start. After many cranking attempts it almost
>> started
>>> a few times but I was afraid to drain the battery or kill the starter so
>> I
>>> stopped. Not sure what’s going on. It actually did this to me a couple of
>>> months ago after the car sat for a month while I sorted the relay ground
>>> issue but it eventually did start. So it seems like when the car sits it
>>> develops this problem. Maybe it’s an air leak at the injection pump?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 4matic - 139k miles - $5,500

2023-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
exactly like mine except my headlights are cloudy. What should I use to
polish them?

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 11:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Looks pretty nice, ABS light under warranty?
>
> Wonder if the headlights are original, pretty rare to see them that clear
> at that age.
>
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenfield-2005-mercedes-benz-matic/7647809296.html
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