[MBZ] A suspicious e-mail NOT sent by me. NO links attached. Please respond with NO links attached in the subject line IF you wish to respond.

[Rhonald Angelo]

Good morning, just wanted let you know that I have been notified of a 
suspicious e-mail that some of you might have received.  This e-mail references 
a money-making opportunity and contains a link with mphTLG in the content.  
Please do NOT open anything, delete it.  My account has been shadowed; whatever 
that means.  I do NOT send out messages like this; never have and never will.
 
Please run a scan on your computer to look for anything suspicious.  Please let 
me know if you experienced anything.  I did NOT open the link, so I have no 
idea what it is or where it leads.  Anything coming from me would usually 
contain a greeting, as a common courtesy as when seeing someone in person.  One 
would see someone and just start talking on a subject without saying hello.
 
Again, pls let me know if you got anything claiming to be from me.
 
Thanks and hoping this has not caused any inconvenience to you.
 
Rhonald 


  
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Water leakage

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Wilton, I have not checked yet...but the headliner appears dry.  I can 
check this evening.  As for the rest of the possible places...and the other 
great responses (thanks) I have gotten in re to this issue.  I also remembered 
to check my binder I created when I first got the car and joined the list.  I 
found some posts from 2002 about the drain around the ac evaporator.  The AC 
does not work and has not for years.

 

Here is what I am thinking...I am willing to drive as far as NYC and to 
Richmond VA and anywhere in between...to connect with somebody who can show me 
all these areas and give me some guidance on where all this stuff is, shouldn't 
I be able to fix some of this myself?  What I cannot fix, I want to be able to 
tell the guys at the shop exactly where to go and what to replace.  Who lives 
within this 400 mile radius of Washington, DC?

 

Thanks

 

Rhonald

1985 300D
314,000 miles
black/palamino



 
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:19:44 -0400
> From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Water leakage
> 
> Have you blown out the sunroof drains? Check the headliner - could be
> dripping down from there due to clogged drains.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> 
> > 'Had this problem with my 81 300D years ago; found opening in rear fender
> > well where inside of quarter meets inner fender and is supposed to be
> > sealed. In motion in the rain, water was being slung/pumped into rear
> > footwell by rear wheel, and a LOT of it can get in fast.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Rhonald Angelo" <
> > rhonald_ange...@hotmail.com>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:22 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] 300D Water leakage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday morning, about 3 a.m. we got a downpour in the Washington, DC
> > area. Later that morning, when I went outside, I just decided to check the
> > area behind the drivers seat...Ias I noticed a bit of water before...back in
> > late June when there was so much rain.
> >
> >
> >
> > This time I had about 3 inches of water. On the way to suck out the water
> > with a vac, you could hear it sloshing around..like being in a boat. WHERE
> > is this water coming from? The hood drain holes are clear. THere is no
> > water under the mat in front, and nothing in the front or back on the
> > passenger side. The trunk is dry. I had the rear drivers door cover off
> > some years ago to repair the hinge, and read it you don't put it back
> > precisely, water cdan get in, but the guys at my repair shop say that has
> > nothing to do with it. I had the front and back window sealed when a bit of
> > water was seeping in during hard rain at high speed. I was not driving in
> > the rain on Sunday; I got back from Richmond before it began raining. I
> > don't know where to look.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Rhonald
> >
> > 1095 300D
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> >
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[MBZ] 300D Water leakage

[Rhonald Angelo]

On Sunday morning, about 3 a.m. we got a downpour in the Washington, DC area.  
Later that morning, when I went outside, I just decided to check the area 
behind the drivers seat...Ias I noticed a bit of water before...back in late 
June when there was so much rain.  

 

This time I had about 3 inches of water.  On the way to suck out the water with 
a vac, you could hear it sloshing around..like being in a boat.  WHERE is this 
water coming from?  The hood drain holes are clear.  THere is no water under 
the mat in front, and nothing in the front or back on the passenger side.  The 
trunk is dry.  I had the rear drivers door cover off some years ago to repair 
the hinge, and read it you don't put it back precisely, water cdan get in, but 
the guys at my repair shop say that has nothing to do with it.  I had the front 
and back window sealed when a bit of water was seeping in during hard rain at 
high speed.  I was not driving in the rain on Sunday; I got back from Richmond 
before it began raining.  I don't know where to look.

 

Thanks

 

Rhonald

1095 300D

314,000 miles

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Re: [MBZ] Holiday Exercise Program-SCROLL TO THE END

[Rhonald Angelo]

Peter...I love it...too funny...thanks I needed that today.
 
Rhonald
1985 300D  311,000 milesPaying too much for anything?   Most Americans are, and 
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get some cash back for a change.> From: pm7...@comcast.net> To: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:42:26 -0500> Subject: [MBZ] 
Holiday Exercise Program-SCROLL TO THE END> > > > > > Holiday Exercise Program 
> > > > > > I tried it, I liked it, you will too!> > > > The older we get the 
more important it is to incorporate exercise into> our> daily routine. This is 
necessary to maintain cardiovascular health and> maintain muscle mass.> > > > 
If you're over 40, you might t want to take it easy at first, then do> more> 
repetitions as you become more proficient and build stamina. Warning:> It may> 
be too strenuous for some.> > > > > Always consult your doctor before starting 
any exercise program! > > > > > SCROLL DOWN. > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW SCROLL 
BACK UP. > > > > > That's enough for the first day. > > > > Great job. > > > > 
> Have a Bourbon> > And a very Happy New Year and Best Wishes for 2009> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Pete Arnold> > My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it 
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Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least

[Rhonald Angelo]

Mike I am looking around online...anyone else want to chime in. This one looks 
good, but there might be on better?  I don't know if it is compatible...someone 
else can take that on...?


Automate Exterior Lighting or Other Electronics to your Desired Schedule






Overview








Heavy duty on/off timer switch for loads up to 15 Amps, 1800W 
resistive or 600W tungstenWeather resistant design for outdoor useSimple 
programming instructions and large buttons with easy to read LCD screen20 
programmable timed events from 1 to 7 days a weekBuilt in photocell with 5 
light recognition optionsClock, manual on/off, daylight savings function, 
random mode, and countdown timer




Essential Info

This Programmable Timer is an excellent choice for regulating your
exterior lights, holiday lights, fountain pumps and other electronics
into an automated on/off cycle. You have the option to set up to 20
programs from 1 to 7 days a week. Programs can be set as an on/off
timed function, countdown function, and 3 modes of random functions to
give your home that lived in appearance. What sets this apart from
similar products is the built in photocell, which allows for the timer
to turn on or off depending on the light recognition option you select.
A manual on/off button is a convenient option if you wish to override
your current timer status. The product was developed with outdoor
applications in mind and built with a weather resistant casing and a
slot on the back for mounting. The timer is ideal for heavy duty use
with 120V loads using up to 15Amps, 1800W resistive, 600W tungsten, and
motors up to 1.0 HP.

Rhonald
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> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:42:30 -0800
> From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
> 
> Last year I used a flimsy one... This year we just plug the car in when we go 
> out to walk the dog, by the time I've showered and eaten breakfast everything 
> is warmed up nice.
> 
> I saw no problems with the flimsy one other than it only having a 2 prong 
> outlet.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:54:03 -0500
> From: "Michael E. Esh" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Message-ID: 
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> 
> Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater.  All
> I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:18 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
> 
> 
> You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one,
> that's what I do.
> 
> But I agree that other than wasting electricity, there's no real harm
> done having it plugged in all night.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting

[Rhonald Angelo]

 "BTW, the little spring-loaded doors on the key slots are in place."

Hmm, so that is what happens...I looked tonight and the little spring loaded 
door on my drivers side lock is missing...I was wondering why it freezes and 
there is not snow or rain...so can you replace this by itself or does the whole 
door lock have to be replaced?

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> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:08:20 -0600
> From: ka...@striplin.net
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting
> 
> that happens all the time around here in the winter.  I remember the old 
> days of frozen locks, especially on 123's.  Dont really lock the doors 
> with the cars parked at the house though.  Still, if we get an inch of 
> ice deposited on everything, the car is encased in a solid layer of ice 
> and the doors will not open.
> 
> Wilton Strickland wrote:
> > I had planned to pick up grandson at about 1100 day before yesterday and
> > have an "inauguration" luncheon with him and some other men at a local
> > restaurant.  'Was unable to get into any door in either one of my cars
> > because of ice - freak/rare (for here) storm deposited 2 - 3 of snow and ice
> > with temps in teens.  Key would not turn in locks, etc., and, yes, I know
> > how to safely thaw them.  'Called grandson and asked him to come pick me up;
> > his doors (85 BMW 318i) had the same prob.  It was still snowing and very
> > windy (plenty of chill factor); he and I went back inside to our respective
> > TV's for the inauguration and waited for mother nature to thaw the door
> > locks by 1100 yesterday.
> > BTW, the little spring-loaded doors on the key slots are in place.
> > 
> > Wilton
> > 91 350SDL (195 kmi)
> > 87 300D (111 kmi)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Re Low temp starting

[Rhonald Angelo]

Ned, Mine burned out and I thought it was because I ran it all night...I saw it 
somewhere that thought 2-3 hours was enough if temps got down around 9- 20 
degrees.  But I guess in places where it gets to be -30 that would be a 
different story.  I would need a plug in heater too.

I just left the shop and got a new one installed.  I posted an earlier 
thread...not being able to start 2 weeks ago and no glow light...from tomorrow 
(Friday).  The tow truck came and after connecting to the portable batter 
charger, it started on the third try.  

It started more easily this morning, though a bit rough so I took the 
opportunity to go to the shop.  I had one glow plug that was bad, but the guys 
said they suspect jelled fuel more than anything.  They treated my fuel with 
the 911 stuff as well.  They say it is the best thing going.  Should be good to 
go now.  

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> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:30:22 -0500
> From: ned.kleinh...@gmail.com
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Re Low temp starting
> 
> Wilton,
>> 
> Is it true the block heaters on our old diesels should only be operated for
> a few hours, or risk burning them out?
> I've plugged in my 123's and 124's over-night many times.  For the last 10
> years I've used a Intermatic type electromechanical timer,
> mostly to save the kW-hrs.  That same timer has held up well.   One time, I
> thought the heater was burned out.
> But discovered I damaged the cord one morning when I forgot to unplug it.
> A new cord from Rusty put it back in operation.
> 
> Ned Kleinhenz
> '95 E300D
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Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting

[Rhonald Angelo]

Ok, before it burned out, I would just plug it in in my driveway...a few times 
I did it overnight, which is probably why it burned out...did not realize it 
was not supposed to go all night.  I think two hours at the most?  Could the 
heavy duty extention cord be be hooked up to a timer? to come on say at 6 a.m.? 
 
 
Rhonald
> From: str...@cs.indiana.edu> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 
> 2009 17:15:52 -0500> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting> > "Rhonald Angelo" 
>  said:> > > Ok, I know the block heater won't 
> fix the plugs...but this would get me> > through winter I think...?> > It 
> might. Probably depends on how cold it gets, how many glow plugs are> bad, 
> and whether you are always going to be somewhere you can plug in> the block 
> heater.> > Allan> --> 1983 300D> > > ___> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting

[Rhonald Angelo]

Ok, I know the block heater won't fix the plugs...but this would get me through 
winter I think...?Rhonald
> From: str...@cs.indiana.edu> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 
> 2009 16:56:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting> > "Rhonald Angelo" 
>  said:> > > no glow light, but it started 
> smoothly...what is happening when the light> > does not come on?> > One or 
> more bad glow plugs. It'll still start OK if its warm enough.> > Allan> --> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting

[Rhonald Angelo]

Ok, I have not had an issues cutting off, but Friday a week ago, the 300D would 
not start, and after two attempts on Sat and Sun...so think I ran the battery 
down...I called roadside assistance on Monday, they came and hooked up the 
portable battery charger.  It started on the 3rd trylots of smoke, some 
rocking and finally it smoothed out.  I then left, took it down 395 to the Gym. 
 When I came out an hour later, no glow light, but it started smoothly...what 
is happening when the light does not come on?  The fuse is fine.  Then as I 
left, I took it down past Edsall Road, and turned around on the express lanes 
for the Italian tune up...but think I should have gone a little farther 
out...past Springfied.  I went from 0 to 75 and held it there as long as I 
could...all seemed well.  Drove into Takoma Park, got out ran into the store 
and was back in about 12 min.  Still no light, but started ok.  I got some anti 
gel...but it says something about opening the fuel filter...that isn't going to 
happen...then it says put it into the tank.  I have a bit less that half a 
tank...do I just put in 1/2 of bottle, then fill up the tank?  Seems to me it 
will take a while for the mix to reach the fuel filter.   Other than that, 
waiting Thursday...it is supposed to be in teh high 40's.
 
Rhonald in Washington
300D  311,000 miles
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:51:31 -0800> From: dsereta...@yahoo.com> To: 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting> > Well, I had 
> similar problem this am with a 240D which I just bought.  I don't know the 
> car yet so I'm not sure how low the fuel gauge will go before the tank is 
> empty and I don't even know if the yellow reserve fuel light works.  Well, it 
> was a bitter cold morning here in Boston and the car started just fine.  
> After a couple of minutes it lost power and stalled on a highway entrance 
> ramp.  THe gauge read low but not completely empty so I suspected gelled 
> fuel.  The highway authority forced me to have the car towed free of charge 
> to the next exit for safety reasons.  There MB roadside assistance came and 
> poured in a couple of gallons of diesel.  The car eventually started and ran. 
>  I then proceeded to the nearest gas station and filled up.  Then I went to 
> Autozone and bought some of that Diesel 911 and poured it into tank.  Car was 
> OK for the rest of the day.   I'll see what happens tomorrow am.> > --- On 
> Thu, 1/15/09, Loren Faeth  wrote:> > From: Loren 
> Faeth > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting> To: 
> "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Thursday, January 
> 15, 2009, 11:21 PM> > Bzzt> > Gelled fuel classic symptoms> > > At 10:10 PM 
> 1/15/2009, you wrote:> >On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:42:07 -0600 Peter Frederick> 
> > >wrote:> >> > > The 300D cranked up this morning with 
> absolutely no problems -- ran> > > the GP til the light went out, waiting 10 
> sec or so, cranked for> > > about 2 sec and it was running on all six 
> instantly.> > >> > > No really rattle, no smoke to speak of.> > >> > > Should 
> be -1F in the morning, hope this works again!> >> >When we lived in the Black 
> Forest north of Colorado Springs, it was -24F> >one day. I DID get the '72 
> 220D with series plugs started, but found> that> >after driving a couple 
> miles or so, the engine would stop. If I waited a> >few minutes, I could 
> re-start it and drive some more. I decided that> >wasn't a good way to go to 
> work (not to mention starting it at the end> of> >the day) and turned around 
> and went home.> >> >My theory at the time was that the COLD air chilled the 
> cylinder walls,> >causing it to stop and waiting awhile allowed the rest of 
> the engine> >(which was warmed up) to heat them back up.> >> >> >Craig> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505

[Rhonald Angelo]

I rember this car...I actually test drove one here in Virginia...I loved 
it...those front struts were the size of a small tree and soaked up bumps like 
a huge sponge.  I liked the look..like nothing else...like the old 300's  they 
look like what they are.  Rhonald in Washington, DC
1985 300D  311,000 miles
> From: kr...@comcast.net> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 
> 18:54:03 -0800> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505> > I like the strange look of 
> the Peugeot 504 sedan and even stranger wagon. A > neighbor where I grew up 
> in Southern California had 4 504's, 3 of them > Diesels. they included a '78 
> and '79 504 Automatique sedans, a '76 manny > tranny Wagon and a '75 gasser 
> sedan. It's too bad that parts availability > is nonexistent.> > Kevin in 
> Hillsboro, OR> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - price shock

[Rhonald Angelo]

 
Wow, that is lot for for junk food (exept the water) Too bad you didn't get 
some cashback for buying it.  I found something that gives me cash back on 
hundreds of products I buy everyday.  From tools I use in the yard, to 50 
sports and fitness stores, things like Turbo Tax, Vista Print, department 
stores, computer and electronics, and clothing from Dockers, Timberland Boots, 
Eddie Bauer and bookstores like Barnes and Noble and Borders Books, there is a 
rental car...and waiting to see if mecedes might be offered.  You should check 
it out.
 
 www.buyonlinegetcashback.com
 
Rhonald in Washington
1985 300D  310,000 miles
 
> From: kr...@comcast.net> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 
> 18:41:32 -0800> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - price shock> > $4.00 for small bag 
> of> popcorn, $3.50 for small bottle of water,> > At the Portland Trail 
> Blazers games, a .5l bottle of water is $3.75. I > usually buy one every few 
> games and bring it home, fill it back up with > filtered water and smuggle it 
> back in. Cokes run $5.75, but if you smuggle > your souvenir cup in, it's a 
> $3.00 refill. The $6.50 bag of popcorn will > feed 4 people. A double 
> cheeseburger and fries will set you back $9.50!> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR> 
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[MBZ] The Great Outdoors!

[Rhonald Angelo]

Happy New Year Kaleb/Listers...I hope this is a good year for everyone.  I have 
been away for a while so first let me give a big thanks to all of the advice, 
comments, etc. I have gotten.  My car would probably be in the junk pile by 
now.  
 
The '85 300D is doing fine with 310,000 miles+ aside from a bit of rust 
starting at the right rear wheel well. Last year, I e-mailed Kaleb to get 
permission (original e-mail follows) to mail an off-topic message to you. I had 
seen a thread a while back about fishing and hunting, etc. and have lost the 
thread.  This led me to add some things and to include you in the projects I am 
working on.  This is the 1st of my ideas to come to fruition.
 
www.ytboutdoors.com/rajvoyage
 
I thought some of you might like to know more about what I am doing.  Log on 
and let me know what you like best.  All your questions should be answered 
here, but feel free to contact me off the list at rhonald_ange...@hotmail.com 
This is something you don't want to miss out on.  I also have a DVD with other 
details and more links.  The DVD has to be snail-mailed because a streaming 
version is not available yet.
 
I also have something for the wives and girlfriends who may or may not fully 
share this interest.
 
Ok, that's it for now...thanks.  Let me know...
 
Rhonald
1985 300D Turbo
Black & Palomino
310,000 miles +> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:23:22 -0500> From: 
m...@striplin.net> To: rhonald_ange...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Off-Topic 
Post> > its fine with me> > Rhonald Angelo wrote:> > Hey, this is Rhonald in 
Washington, DC> > 300D Turbo> > Black Palomino> > 308,000 miles> > > > I wanted 
to get your opinion and permission. I know we can post > > off-topic posts, but 
I still wanted to check with you first, as I don't > > want to clog up the 
system. I would ask if there are any members who > > are into the great 
outdoors, hunting, fishing, mountain climbing, > > snowsports, wilderness 
adventure...you get the idea. I am working on a > > major project and thought 
the guys (wives & girlfriends?) on the list > > might have some interest; but 
would not know unless I ask. Would you be > > open to setting a time when we 
could talk further so I can give you more > > details on what I am doing?> > > 
> Thanks in advance,> > > > Rhonald
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Re: [MBZ] W123 noises/compression?

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Jim, thanks for the response...this morining I went to the grocery store 
and no problems, though I did not take it up to 70 or anything, but I did not 
hear all the squeaking sounds and there was no shaking at idle...that seems to 
only happen after driving at high speed for more than a half hour or so.  

Ok,...Mitch is booked, but maybe I can get one of the mechanics to look at the 
below items.  

> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:41:23 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 noises/compression?
> 
> > but.  As I attempted to push it up to 70 or so, the car began to > > 
> > vibrate and it was like nothing was happening...it actually slowed > > down 
> > some, so I backed off...a bit later on a slight decline on I 95 > > it was 
> > fine, I got up to about 75then it did it again...I had the > > pedal 
> > all the way to the floor and the car would not increase > > speedwhat 
> > is happening?
> 
> One of two things.  Either you are getting fuel starvation due
> to clogged filters or leaking (air) fuel lines, or your turbo
> boost enrichment (valve, sensor, ALDA) has developed an intermittent
> leak or electrical fault.  I'd suspect the former.  It's also
> possible you picked up a bad load of fuel.

Ok, I will print this and run by to see Mitch this week to have them check 
those, but it just seems odd this would happen right after taking it 
in...though one cannot predict when things will happen obviously.  I might need 
to be on the road again on Thurs and  I have a training in Richmond to attend 
on Saturday.  The turbo parts have been working just fine, and they finally got 
rid of the whistle...some little wire about 8" long was capped off and that 
stopped it.  This was last year and I have not had any issues related to the 
turbo.  I stayed off the road after I got the two tires except that one time 
purposely so I would not wear into the tires.  I just seems odd that the 
vibrations and the steering noises would be connected...and this moriing there 
is none of that...just the still existing "loose feeling" generated by the 
lower control arm bushings being worn.  They showed me and said how the front 
wheels could move back and forth; the alignment would not get rid of that.

Bad fuel??  H, I never in a million years would have thought about that; as 
I know nothing about this..I just go to the diesel  pump and fill it.  
> 
> Unrelated to the suspension, at any rate.  Something could have
> been knocked or disrupted during the work, of course.

Ok, I will have them take a look at that.

Thanks
Rhon
> 
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[MBZ] W123 noises/compression?

[Rhonald Angelo]

Morning...ok, this is weird.  Recently I replaced the two front tires, as they 
had worn badly, the left was worn on the outside.  I thought is was because the 
upper control arms were worn, which were replaced in Oct. 06.  I also had a 
service done.  I realize that the tires wore because the front end needed 
aligned.  I took it on Friday, got it done, new belts and oil change.  He told 
me that he would set the alignment, but that the lower control arm bushings 
were worn, which explained the "watery feeling" in the front end.

I noticed a significant difference in how the car drove.  Then yesterday, Sat, 
I drove to Philadelphia for the day.  I was cruising around 60, just relaxed 
with time to get where I was going.  The woman that I was meeting there to 
present a business oportunity passed me, so I thought I should speed it up a 
bit.  As I attempted to push it up to 70 or so, the car began to vibrate and it 
was like nothing was happening...it actually slowed down some, so I backed 
off...a bit later on a slight decline on I 95 it was fine, I got up to about 
75then it did it again...I had the pedal all the way to the floor and the 
car would not increase speedwhat is happening?   

Then as I stopped for the 2nd toll, the car was shaking very badly at idle, 
which I know is the rack damper screw.  I also checked the transmission fluid 
which was low, so I added to it.  This continued all the way to Philadelphia.  
I got there about 3:40.  When I left at 9:10 p.m., all seemed fine as I started 
out, but then I started hearing more noises coming from the supsension?  
Creaking and groaning and I pulled over opened the hood and did not see, hear 
or smell anything strange.  Then as I turned the steering wheel left and right, 
I heard creaking noises.   No warning lights come on, and all the gauges appear 
normal.

As I got back on the road, again...I never got it past 72 mph, and that was 
only for about 8 seconds or so at a time.  It was fine at 50 - 61 mph or so.  

Now, last weekend, I drove down to the Edsel Road area, and came back on the 
express lanes for the "italian tune up"  NONE of this occurred..I had it up to 
80 -85 most of the way back until approaching the Pentagon area.  

When the front end is aligned, are there screws or bolts that are loosened and 
tightened?  What is involved?
but what would that have to do with loss of power at higher speeds.  The timing 
chain was replaced in 2001 I think.  The last service only reported a worn 
injection pump (is this the culprit?)  My record file is at the office, and I 
don't think I am due for service yet.  What do I need to ask the mechanic?  
Mitch Cars is booked till the end of Oct. and recommended the guy I took it to.

All I know, is that it was fine before I took it in.   I need to go back to 
Philadelphia this week, so I need to find out what is going on.  

Thanks

Rhonald A. Jackson
1985 300D
299488 miles
Black & Palomino


> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:34:40 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 tranny??
> 
> E M wrote:
> > I know many of you say a W123 diesel will go pretty much forever, but what
> > about the average auto trans in a W123?  How many miles are they good for if
> > well taken care of, and on the flipside, at what mileage do problems start
> > to show up in examples that haven't been so well loved?
> 
> In Pittsburgh, the average Mercedes transmission lasts about 250kmi or 
> about 18 years. If the car sees mostly highway driving they usually last 
> longer. If city driven, not that long. At between 15-20 years the seals 
> age and often start to leak. Requires pulling the transmission and a set 
> of seals to seal them. A shop will usually charge $500+ to do the job.
> 
> In other locations (Denver for example) the average transmission may not 
> las so long (Stu Ritter says more like ~150kmi). I know of lots of high 
> mileage cars with more than 400kmi on the transmission, but 300-350 is 
> more usual for a most highway driven cars that are serviced in a timely 
> manner at proscribed intervals.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Rick...trades are great...but whatever you do...DON'T let him put all of 
his eggs in one basket.  In my opinion, one needs to have at least 3 things he 
can learn to do well.  

Rhonald
1985 300D
299,000 miles

> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:41:47 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
> 
> 
> Rick, 
> 
> I wanted to go into auto repair when I got out of highschool. My dad talked 
> me into working for a season and then I talked myself into college.
> 
> If I had it all to do over again I'd ABSOLUTELY go to tradeschool. No 
> question. If I had my choice I think I'd be an electrician but I'd like to 
> have a sememster to try all the different trades and see which fit me best.
> The problem with college is you come out and didn't learn to actually DO 
> anything. Lotsa theory, so you've got all the ideas but to but the rubber to 
> the road?
> Thats actually unfair, I interned and when I got out I was fairly adept but 
> man to have an actual trade.
> 
> Absolutely don't let him go into high tech! With a recession around the 
> corner I'm nervous of the impending layoff. I'm in a pretty good place now 
> but any high tech firm is ripe for downsizing.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:08:51 -0500
> From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> My 14 y/o son wants to go into a mechanical or electrical trade when he
>  graduates high school. I have no problem with that, however I have
>  explained to him that when he gets to be 50 plus years old, he may not
>  like turning wrenches 40 hours a week any more. I am twisting his arm to
>  go to college first. He is very intelligent and will do well whatever
>  profession he chooses. He traded a bicycle for a non-running 5hp Honda
>  engine. He was thrilled to have it running within an hour of getting it
>  home. Instead of him taking stuff apart and ME putting it back together
>  correctly, he is getting better about completing tasks like this with
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tex Mex

[Rhonald Angelo]

Now why did I not think of Rusty.  Thanks Bob

Original Message Follows
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tex Mex
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:12:56 -0700

Rusty...
Do yous guys carry MB TEX?
PP is crazy 'spensive usually.
Bob R

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tex Mex


> Performance Products has it by the yard, so does the dealer!  PP is
> cheaper, I think.  John Peterson
>
> 1991 300D 2.5 87k
> Kingston, RI
>
> Rhonald Angelo wrote:
>> hello, anyplace to buy Tex Mex by the yard or piece?  I need to have
>> lumbar pillow made for the car.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rhonald
>> 1985 300D
>> Black/Palomino
>> 297,000 miles
>> Washington, DC
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[MBZ] Tex Mex

[Rhonald Angelo]

hello, anyplace to buy Tex Mex by the yard or piece?  I need to have lumbar 
pillow made for the car.


Thanks

Rhonald
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Black/Palomino
297,000 miles
Washington, DC

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[MBZ] MBZ 126 suspension/frame

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hello community, got a question about the rear suspension and frame for a 
1986 300SDL.  My friend who has one called and says the rear end is still 
appearing to sink down the ground"looks like a pimp mobile"  he 
says...is this the subframe mounts, springs, bushings of some sort or axles?


Thanks

Rhonald
1985 300Turbo
297,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] license plate fun

[Rhonald Angelo]

Too funny Chuck, but not while it was happening  I am sure!

Rhonald
1985 300D
297,000 miles

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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] license plate fun
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:15:47 -1000

Here it is, for all the world and Andrew..

Returning from Gemutleicheit in '94?, on PA Turnpike, w/4 other
Benzes...  Went cough, sputter, sputter, die... (Didn't see reserve
light) and created a 10-15 mile backup since breakdown lane was
blocked by Jersey barriers.  Tom, a 300SD buddy, went to Breezewood
exit and returned down westbound, jumped median, put 2 gallons in,
pumped primer, started car and I was outta' there.  While this was
going on, I ran back down breakdown lane and tried to get everyone to
slow down.  When asked, "what's wrong?", I replied "Some AH up there
ran out of fuel!!!"   Filled up at truck stop and semi driver looked
down at me and said "You the GUY?"... Then, "Don't worry, you'll be
replaced tomorrow"

And that's the whole story

Along with my trip into a tirewall at Summit Point, these stories
will follow me forever

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ..


On Dec 27, 2006, at 6:37 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> You'll have to refresh my memory on that one, Chuck...


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Re: [MBZ] F**k?

[Rhonald Angelo]

Mine was $30,000 and some change...I have the original window sticker.  If I 
was in the market, I would bid..regardless of the current market...it is 
still a gem from the mid 80's.  MB will never make anything as good as these 
older ones again.


Rhonald
1985 300D
297,000 miles
Black/Palomino

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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuck?
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:12:19 -0500

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
> Well Tim,
> Regardless of which list, your point is well taken-that's absurd-it 
didn't

> cost THAT much more than that new in 1985.
> Dwight

Price of my 1985 123.193, purchased new in January '85 was ~$28k. The
price went up maybe 5% shortly after I purchased mine.

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Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic

[Rhonald Angelo]

Mitch Carr's Inc.  4232 Howard Ave.  301.493.9460  Hal is on vaction, ask 
for Mitch.


Rhonald
1985 300D
291,000 miles
Black/Palomino



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:30:40 -0500

Redghost wrote:
> Need mechanic in DC for an old  240D.   Anybody have good place to take
> a 76 to get a look at and made strong enough for a trip to Central
> America?

Rick at PC Imports is as good as they get and is reasonably priced.

http://rc-imports.com/

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Marshall, welcome back man!!

Rhonald
1985 300D
291,000 miles
Washington, DC

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Subject: [MBZ] I'm back
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:57:36 -0500

Just took a walkabout!

Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 1971 280

[Rhonald Angelo]

Yikes...it is a 280 SEL sedan, not SL...a little over 100,000 miles.

Rhonald

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Subject: [MBZ] 1971 280SL
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:35:41 +

I remember a post from a while back, but the details evade me at the moment.
  I know 1971 was the last year before an engine change and some other
things.  A woman I know is considering this model and year...at least at the
moment.  I thought someone said this was the best year to buy, but I could
be wrong.  Anything major to be aware of?

Thanks
Rhonald
1985 300D
290,000 miles and getting a new set of control arms today.
Black & Palomino

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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low miles 83 CD available
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:06:14 -0700

Thanks, Darrell, but i got all I can handle in my pair of MB's right
now...

Take care,

Chuck

On Oct 12, 2006, at 6:34 AM, Darrell W. Sigmon wrote:

 > And what is your offer
 > DWS
 >
 > Chuck Landenberger wrote:
 >> Darrell,
 >>
 >> It's like someone once said.  Everything is for sale, all we have
 >> to agree on is the price!
 >>
 >> take care,
 >>
 >> Chuck
 >> Phoenix AZ
 >> On Oct 11, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Darrell W. Sigmon wrote:
 >>
 >>> Now if you fellas want a very nice '83 burgundy out and palomino
 >>> inside,
 >>> Euro headlights 300CD with 72k on it, no wreck, no rust and in super
 >>> excellent condition, I've owned it since '85 and it will 'peel'
 >>> rubber
 >>> with no problem. It is not really for sale but is someone wants
 >>> it bad
 >>> enough I'll let it go for a price!!
 >>>
 >>> Darrell W. Sigmon
 >>> 
 >>
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[MBZ] 1971 280SL

[Rhonald Angelo]

I remember a post from a while back, but the details evade me at the moment. 
 I know 1971 was the last year before an engine change and some other 
things.  A woman I know is considering this model and year...at least at the 
moment.  I thought someone said this was the best year to buy, but I could 
be wrong.  Anything major to be aware of?


Thanks
Rhonald
1985 300D
290,000 miles and getting a new set of control arms today.
Black & Palomino

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From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low miles 83 CD available
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:06:14 -0700

Thanks, Darrell, but i got all I can handle in my pair of MB's right
now...

Take care,

Chuck

On Oct 12, 2006, at 6:34 AM, Darrell W. Sigmon wrote:

> And what is your offer
> DWS
>
> Chuck Landenberger wrote:
>> Darrell,
>>
>> It's like someone once said.  Everything is for sale, all we have
>> to agree on is the price!
>>
>> take care,
>>
>> Chuck
>> Phoenix AZ
>> On Oct 11, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Darrell W. Sigmon wrote:
>>
>>> Now if you fellas want a very nice '83 burgundy out and palomino
>>> inside,
>>> Euro headlights 300CD with 72k on it, no wreck, no rust and in super
>>> excellent condition, I've owned it since '85 and it will 'peel'
>>> rubber
>>> with no problem. It is not really for sale but is someone wants
>>> it bad
>>> enough I'll let it go for a price!!
>>>
>>> Darrell W. Sigmon
>>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents

[Rhonald Angelo]

Listers, anyone have suggestons for Paintless Dent Removal)  I found two so 
far.  I would rather use someone through a recommendtion.


1.  http://www.dingdent.net/

2.  http://www.dentmasters.com/paintlessdentremoval.html



Anyone have experiece with either of the above?  Thanks

Rhonald
> 1985 300D
> 297,000 miles
> Black and Palomino
with a dent inthe rear left passenger door..ug!

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From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:35:19 -0700

Hi Rhonald,

Back before I moved to AZ in 1999, there were several...  One east of
Rockville Pike on  Montrose Road in Rockville and one in No Va, but I
don't remember exactly where.  The Greater Washington Section (MBCA)
held a couple of Tech Sessions at their facilities.

Try doing a Google on "Paintless Dent Removal" and Maryland or
Virginia...

Are you an MBCA member???  Just curious...

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Rhonald Angelo wrote:

> Hey Chuck, any of these places around the Washington, DC,
> Baltimore, PA,
> Virginia area?  I have on on the left side fromt of the rear door.
>
> Rhonald
> 1985 300D
> 297,000 miles
> Black and Palomino
>
> Thanks
>
> Original Message Follows
> From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents
> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:21:39 -0700
>
> Brian,
>
> I've used Paintless Dent Removal several times...  aka Dent
> Doctor...  depends on the locale.  Usually $60 + per dent depending
> on size...  Once upon a time, my 300SD suffered over 80 dents from
> falling acorns.  Paid IIRC about $600, but they all disappeared.  One
> caveat is that paint can't be cracked...
>
> These outfits "massage" the dent in the metal from behind using
> variously shaped "spoons" and can "encourage" it back into its
> original shape.  A vertically mounted fluorescent tub is used to
> sight indentations/variations in the surface.   Most dealerships
> employ a "Dent Doctor" to remove dents on new cars incurred during
> shipping.
>
> I recall that a set of these tools was available for about $50.
> But, I just Googled "Dent Removal Tools" and a whole bunch of places
> are selling them. They are a lot pricier now.   I know of a few
> people that made their own using some blank round stock, with a
> hammer and anvil to shape the tool that  they needed.
>
> HTH,
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Sep 13, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I didn't put much faith in the info. coming from the pimple-
>> faced,
>> small town kid. But it was worth asking anyway.
>>
>> I assume that "dent pusher" is old-tyme slang for body shop? Afraid
>> I don't
>> have nearly enough disposable income to go that route.
>>
>> Brian
>> 83 240D
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Chuck, any of these places around the Washington, DC, Baltimore, PA, 
Virginia area?  I have on on the left side fromt of the rear door.


Rhonald
1985 300D
297,000 miles
Black and Palomino

Thanks

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From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:21:39 -0700

Brian,

I've used Paintless Dent Removal several times...  aka Dent
Doctor...  depends on the locale.  Usually $60 + per dent depending
on size...  Once upon a time, my 300SD suffered over 80 dents from
falling acorns.  Paid IIRC about $600, but they all disappeared.  One
caveat is that paint can't be cracked...

These outfits "massage" the dent in the metal from behind using
variously shaped "spoons" and can "encourage" it back into its
original shape.  A vertically mounted fluorescent tub is used to
sight indentations/variations in the surface.   Most dealerships
employ a "Dent Doctor" to remove dents on new cars incurred during
shipping.

I recall that a set of these tools was available for about $50.
But, I just Googled "Dent Removal Tools" and a whole bunch of places
are selling them. They are a lot pricier now.   I know of a few
people that made their own using some blank round stock, with a
hammer and anvil to shape the tool that  they needed.

HTH,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Sep 13, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

> Yeah, I didn't put much faith in the info. coming from the pimple-
> faced,
> small town kid. But it was worth asking anyway.
>
> I assume that "dent pusher" is old-tyme slang for body shop? Afraid
> I don't
> have nearly enough disposable income to go that route.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>


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[MBZ] 107--450SL, 560SL

[Rhonald Angelo]

Listers, a woman I know, called me last night, and she has interest in a 
roadster.  I am short on time here.  Can somone give a brief overview on the 
roadsters, or where I can send her to research, meaning which years to look 
for, what to avoid, the major problems, etc., I know about the rubber parts, 
and prone to rust in the trunk areas.  I thought I was on the SL list, but 
maybe not, and I cannot find the link for it.


thanks in advance
rhonald
1985 300D
290,000 miles
black/palomino
Washington, DC

Re: [MBZ] OT - Unreliable BMW V12s (was V12s)

[Rhonald Angelo]

Jeff, this is quite a repair record.  Insane!

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Unreliable BMW V12s (was V12s)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:17:06 -0400

I was hoping you'd peruse the site a bit to find out. Here's his list of
repairs.

http://my750.com/repairs.htm

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD


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Re: [MBZ] Are these cars worth all the effort

[Rhonald Angelo]

Yes, I would not trade it for anything!  Anything else can be wrong, but 
when I get into my '85 300D it is right again, no matter what I am riding 
next to.  The list is great!


Rhonald
1985 300D
287,000 miles

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are these cars worth all the effort
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:37:15 -0700

PRICELESS!!!

Take care,

Chuck   (I Mac also)
Phoenix AZ
On Apr 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, John Berryman wrote:


>The reason why I am writing this message is to see what others
> opinions and experiences are and how you all feel about the time and
> effort spent working on these cars as well as the time we all spend
> sharing tips and tricks, sources for parts and information etc. So
> let's hear it folks.
>
>
> Johnny B.
> I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] No dim or fog lights

[Rhonald Angelo]

Check your turn signal accuator..when my fog and headlights went out the 
fuses were all fine...a new accutator solved the problem


Rhonald
1985 300D
288,000 miles
Washington, DC

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] No dim or fog lights
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:18:15 -0700

> occasion to drive it in the dark.  I replaced all fuses when I got it,
> but
> swapped out the two for the dim/fog lights with the two for the
> brights just
> to check. Replaced the light bulbs also. They still don't work. All
> other
> lights work with the exception of a turn and rear light which I assume
> are
> bulbs. Any ideas on what the problem is?

If it's not the fuses, and that's easily verified with a multimeter
(make sure they're _getting_ juice when they should) then it's got
to be the combination switch on the column.  Fairly easy to replace,
but not dirt cheap.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] For Sale: 1986 300SDL

[Rhonald Angelo]

My buddy Russell in College Park, MD wants to sell his auto.


1986 300 SDL  -  Graphite Grey with Dove Grey Interior   -  232,000 miles  
Garaged


A few dings on the body, otherwise good.
Needs:
 Center mufler
 15,000 mile service

I will be looking at it this weekend  for anything else, and taking photos.  
Still rides nicely on the turnpike.


Some recent service records available, $3,500


Photos available after Sunday ... email me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks
Rhonald
1985 300D
288,000 miles
Washington, DC

[MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims

[Rhonald Angelo]

I have been negligent in washing.my wheels are looking bad..the rear cleaned 
up well, but the front ones are not comming clean and it feels rough in some 
places..some pitting I guess...any suggestions on what to clean them with, 
to keep from making it worse?  I know about the "clean wheels" but have 
heard discussions about overheating...some have said not to use, some say ok 
if slotted..another said if one has a habit of "riding" the brakes while 
driving, it is problematic...what to do..I don't have time to clean wheels 3 
- 4 times a week..


thanks

Rhonald
1985 300D
Black/Palomino
290,000 miles
Washington, DC

Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Jim, check your turn signal indicator switch...I had similar problems 
and finally one night, one the way home in the rain, my headlights and fog 
lights suddenly stopped working...fuses checked out fine...turned out to be 
the turn signal indicator.  All is well now.


Rhonald
1985 300D
294,000 miles

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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:51:35 -0800

> For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a poltergeist.
> Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light comes
> on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight it is
> noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
> headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come on.  Do
> I
> have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the headlight
> is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
> warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I think
> this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts?

Did anybody mention fuses yet?  But yes, it's a bad connection somewhere
along the line.  Seek and destroy!  (Don't forget the ground, it's just
as important as the others, and somewhat more neglected.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Headlights 300D

[Rhonald Angelo]

Ok, I pulled the cover off and followed the legend...the only one that had 
some black spots on it was teh one in the far upper right corner  a blue 
one...controls aux fan according to the chart.  None of the others had any 
spots on them and all were intactcan they blow without any tell-tale 
signs?  Now what?


Thanks
Rhonald
1985 300D

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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights  300D
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:39:46 -0500


On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Rhonald Angelo wrote:

> EveningI turned my fog lights on tonight on the way back from
> erands...and something happened then I was without lights...turn
> signals
> work, park lights work, tail lights fine..I think it is fuses...and the
> headlights and fog lights have a separate fuseI checked the
> manual..for
> the box..now which fuse is it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rhonald
>

Each headlight filament has its own fuse, including the fogs, that = 5
blown fuses. Highly unlikely. The sheet in the fuse box cover should
have the legend on it.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Headlights 300D

[Rhonald Angelo]

ok, thanks

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights  300D
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:39:46 -0500




Each headlight filament has its own fuse, including the fogs, that = 5
blown fuses. Highly unlikely. The sheet in the fuse box cover should
have the legend on it.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] Headlights 300D

[Rhonald Angelo]

EveningI turned my fog lights on tonight on the way back from 
erands...and something happened then I was without lights...turn signals 
work, park lights work, tail lights fine..I think it is fuses...and the 
headlights and fog lights have a separate fuseI checked the manual..for 
the box..now which fuse is it?


Thanks

Rhonald
1985 300D
284,000 miles
Washinton, DC

Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes

[Rhonald Angelo]

What is really dangerous are the speed bikes..the ones that sound like a 
bumblebee...and will appear out of nowhere and in 3 seconds will be 2 miles 
in front of you..I have seen these guys weaving in and out of traffic on the 
beltway with inches between them and cars...scary...I had always said, I 
never knew of a Harley that was in an accident..I can always hear them 
coming..I must have missed the original post on this one..I guess if one is 
drving something that is louder than a Harley, he would not been seen until 
it is too late...for me, if I got a bike it would only be a Harley.  An 
almost silent bike in the drivers blind spot is not good.  Sure, at times 
and in places they can be very noisy..but in my experice...most of the guys 
are easy on the thottle in certain areas...


Rhonald
1985 300D
284,000 miles
Washington, DC

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From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:38:36 -0500

"could hear him for about 3/4 of a mile away - he stated that cars"

If that thinking is true let us have every vehicle/truck/car on the roads
have no muffler then we would be really safe and could hear each other
coming.

I had a guy (he looked like a Hun, proally why no one wants to mess with
these guys and question this stuff) in Pennsylvania say the same thing to
me.  "It is for safety".  But with the recent appealed helmet law he did not
wear a helmet.  Yeah he was real concerned about safety!!??

Spade a Spade:  No it is about making noise, a power trip and "saying look
at me" and nothing else. It is certainly not about humility, God forbid.  I
would get out my decibel meter and ticket everyone of the bastards if I were
a cop for disturbing the peace.

By degree I am a Marine/Mechanical Engineer.  On a merchant ship (Navy /
Shore side same way) every piece a machinery we would judge by the level of
sound.  Excessive sound and loud sound were ussually a sign of
trouble/danger.  Most good mechanical types agree optimal design operation
is as quiet as possible.
.   /Tom











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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes


> Actually, loud pipes let cars (mostly driven by blithering idiots who 
fail

> to see anything smaller than a Suburban) know you're there.  A friend had
> an
> obnoxiously loud bike (he bought it that way, wasn't trying to say "look
> at
> me") could hear him for about 3/4 of a mile away - he stated that cars
> stayed away from him, even moving to the other side of their lane as he
> passed.  I know if I rode a bike, I'd want that kind of situation - not
> being seen usually has disastrous results when you don't have a frame
> around
> you.
>
> T
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato
>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:50 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] Bike rider
>>
>>
>> Very Neat clip!
>>
>> SOUND OFF
>> A least it is quiet unlike in the US where too many  like the
>> loud bikes.
>> Un like the Europeans,  we suffer more from the "look at me syndrome"
>> Nothing negative opinion wise about riding motorcycles. I
>> think they are
>> neat, always have. But when they are louder than the space
>> shuttle you are
>> now infringing on my freedom.  I asked a local cop about the
>> noise as one
>> drove by, he put it best when he said "simple things amuse
>> simple minds"
>> In my day if you did not have a muffler (or it was loud)
>> regardless of
>> vehicle you got a ticket period end of story.  I cannot pin
>> it down but
>> maybe with the prevailing Nascar/Country music/Rap/It is
>> acceptable to be a
>> Red neck/ crush kill destroy,  mentality in this country in
>> the last 20
>> years it has become a free for all with the vehicle noise.  I
>> would ticket
>> everyone of these vehicles just like I deserve and have
>> gotten tickets when
>> my muffler has gone bad. Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Hitchcocks' Ponton

[Rhonald Angelo]

How long ago was this...There is nothing there now

Rhonald
1985 300D
284,000 miles

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From: Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Hitchcocks' Ponton
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:02:56 -0500

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.com%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D4607128666%2B%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=4607128666

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Re: [MBZ] O.T.Fake ebay email

[Rhonald Angelo]

report these to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  E-bay NEVER asked for you personal info in 
an e-mail like that.  I have gotten tons of them.

Rhonald

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From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T.Fake ebay email
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:10:17 -0500

Forward it ASAP to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've received suspect emails like these and FWded them along to ebay at the
above address.  The spoof dept. usually responds, probably an automated
response, but at least they care enough to reply.


On 1/11/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not that one, but very similar. It is interesting to see what the true 
URL

> is of the link they give you. Most I see are registered in Asia.
>
> On 1/11/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone received an email that looks like it's from ebay trying to
> get
> > your personal info? I got one this morning that started out by saying,
> "If
> > this email is inappropriate or breaches eBay policy, please help 
protect

> > other eBay community members by reporting it to us immediately."
> > Then it went on to say,"
> > Dear eBay member,
> >
> > This is a message from eBay :
> >
> > Be aware you have received the third non paying bidder alert. Your
> account
> > is now targeted for termination in order to avoid this you must click 
on

> the
> > "Respond Now" button and update your information . After you've done
> this we
> > will revise your account's activities and send you an email with our
> final
> > decision within 48 hours.
> >
> > Thank you, the eBay antifraud team."
> >
> > I have purchased very few things on ebay and I have paid for them all
> > promptly. To whom should I report this crap to?
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob Rentfro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Rhonald Angelo]

Another oozer herewhat to do???

Rhonald

1985 300D
284,000 miles
Washington, DC

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From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:14:32 -0500

Christopher McCann wrote:
> I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every 
winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).

>
>   QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  
would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.


None of my mirrors have EVER oozed. What car/year?

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty

[Rhonald Angelo]

Rusty, price on passengerside parklight assembly for '85 300D?  Thanks

Rhonald
1985 300D
284,000 miles
Washington, DC

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From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:47:26 -0500

The lens is $3.50. The bulb is $2.00. Shipping probably $6.00.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:13 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty


Hi Rusty - I discovered that the drivers side license plate light is
missing
entirely on my 1981 300SD.  It looks as if the cover holds the light
bulb in
place.  Is this available?  Just let me know how much, with shipping to
32257.
Thanks - Bill
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD  EM  269k miles


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Re: [MBZ] Beware this ebay seller if he has a car for sale

[Rhonald Angelo]

Wow...thanks for the tip.

Rhonald
1985 300D
Washington, DC

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From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Beware this ebay seller if he has a car for sale
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:50:18 -0600

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&;
items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off





Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A.

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client
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Re: [MBZ] Super clean Red 85 TD with 200 photos and a 25 page essay

[Rhonald Angelo]

I say $10,220 - $12,470

Rhonald
1985 300D
269,000 miles
Washington, DC

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To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Super clean Red 85 TD with 200 photos and a 25 page essay
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:23:39 -0700

All righty kids...let's guess where this one will end up.
I say $14,750.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 145K
Litchfield Park,AZ


- Original Message -
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:18 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Super clean Red 85 TD with 200 photos and a 25 page essay


> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300TD-1985-300TDT-STATION-WAGON-W123-TURBO-DIESEL-WARRANTY-FL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4599149578QQrdZ1

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Re: [MBZ] Super clean Red 85 TD with 200 photos and a 25 page essay

[Rhonald Angelo]

Awesome!  Thanks Andrew

Rhonald
1985 300D
269,000 miles

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Super clean Red 85 TD with 200 photos and a 25 page essay
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:18:24 -0500

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300TD-1985-300TDT-STATION-WAGON-W123-TURBO-DIESEL-WARRANTY-FL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4599149578QQrdZ1
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends

[Rhonald Angelo]

I LOVE it!  Well done!

Rhonald
1985 300D
269,000 miles
Washington, DC

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From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:52:51 -0500

That my friend, was AWESOME!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends

My apologies to Mr. Moore:



Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the list
Blockheaters were plugged in...cold weather persists.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that packages from Rusty soon would be there.

The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of 240Ds (4 speed, of course) danced in their heads.
And mamma in her 'kerchief and a beautiful corsage,
Knew I was getting ready to go to the garage .

When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
It sounded like an OM 617 with something the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
I tripped over a jackstand now I'm bleeding from a gash.

The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Made me think the POS cars in the yard could get up and go.
Then, what to my wondering eyes should I see,
But a perfectly maintained mid-'80s 190D.

With a little old driver, I don't need a sleuth,
I knew in a moment it's Herr Doktor Booth.
More rapid than eagles his advice he dealt out,
And he whistled, and waved, and started to shout!

"Change fluids, change coolant! Changes filters, Change fuses!
Replace all those hoses from which something oozes!
>From the highly waxed roof, to the three pointed star!
Now do these thing, do these thing...take car of your cars!"

As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
Which always seem to end up in your garage, my oh my.
So into the garage Herr Doktor Booth flew,
With a bag full of tools and a timing chain too.

And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the drive
Several other listers who soon had arrived.
I went to the car as quick as I could,
But Herr Doktor Booth was already 'neath the hood.

He was dressed in a coverall , from his head to his foot,
And his clothes were all tarnished with M1 and soot.
A bundle of tools he had flung on his back,
They were so complete..I was taken aback.
He said,"Your engine's so dirty I think I might wretch!
The valves are all wack, look at this chain stretch !

This thing is a wreck, many PMs you have missed
Have you learned nothing in your years on the list?"
.

He was fixing fuel hoses that were all out of kilter,
"I need a hand with this wretched inline filter!".
And then barreling in as if on que,
Were Kaleb, Chris and Casey and the Dons (OK and LT) too !

The work in my garage was making me dizzy,
Everyone was keeping incredibly busy!
Seeing all these good friends from so far away,
Working so hard..made me wish I were...able to serve them frosty brews

They spoke not a word, but went straight to their work,
And torqued everything with the wrench (Nm, of course) with a jerk.
And then waving his hands like the big rappers do,
He said,"Let's roll fellers, our work here is through!"

He sprang to his 190D, all Christmas arrayed ,
And they all piled in like Shriners in a parade.
But I heard him exclaim, as I puffed my Christmas cigar,
"Happy Christmas to all, and TAKE CARE OF YOUR CARS!"



Bob Rentfro

'77 300D 145K

Litchfield Park, AZ

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Re: [MBZ] Looks to be a fine daily driver

[Rhonald Angelo]

A great car...if I had a new one, I would sell it and buy this one..there 
something elegant in it's simplicity that is appealing...


Rhonald
1985 300D
269,000 miles
Washington, DC

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From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks to be a fine daily driver
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:49:26 -0500

If you've pounded the pavement looking for a clean used Mercedes you can
really appreciate the virtues of ebay, particular when the seemingly PERFECT
car comes along and you can relax and gaze longingly at those beautiful
photos.  WIth ebay's far-flung reach, bids from a potentially global array
of potential buyers serve as a better ratification of market value than can
be realized by conventional car selling methodologies (newspaper and
supermarket ads).

On 12/22/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John asked "Why are people paying these crazy sums?"
> A) eBay is a sellers market
> B) as the years tick on, these are getting rarer to find (supply and
> demand)
> C) we love these diesels
> D) longevity is so rare in our society
> E) maybe compared to todays new disposable rock climbers even at $7K with
> 65K miles on it it is no such a bad deal . Hey if you make it a daily
> driver
> put 300K on her, not a bad price to pay for a ride. Heck you can
> work/maintain on alot of it yourself...
>
> Regards Tom Scordato
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks to be a fine daily driver
>
>
> > It is such a pretty car- I don't think I'd spend 7k for it.  Where do 
we
> > guess it will end?  I saw a 300SD online for 17k or something like 
that.

> > Why are people paying these crazy sums?
> > I should put up my 300D 2.5 74k miles on Ebay, ask $15k for it.  Retire
> > early.
> > John Peterson
> > Kingston RI 1991 300D 2.5 74k
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks to be a fine daily driver
> >
> >
> >> andrew may have said
> >> "Looks awesome, though "The car ooozes class and regality" strikes me
> as
> >> a
> >>> bit of hyperbole...   After all, it's only an entry level car for 
that

> >>> year
> >>> and probably listed for about $5 grand"
> >>
> >>
> >> I am a 123 chassis sort of diesel guy, but that era low fin body style
> >> and
> >> simple 4 banger appeals to me for some reason.
> >>
> >> Regards Tom Scordato
> >> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks to be a fine daily driver
> >>
> >>
> >>> Looks awesome, though "The car ooozes class and regality" strikes me
> as
> >>> a
> >>> bit of hyperbole...   After all, it's only an entry level car for 
that

> >>> year
> >>> and probably listed for about $5 grand.
> >>>
> >>> On 12/22/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-200D-diesel-66K-miles-Like-new-True-Survivor_W0QQitemZ4598627758QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

> 
> 
>  Tom Scordato
>  Bellefonte PA
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Resolved: Sway Bar Bushings on 124 (Clunk)

[Rhonald Angelo]

John, I had the same issue in the back with 123 sway bar bushings..I could 
not believe little plastic things worn could result in such noises.  I think 
my cotrol arms are due for replacement, it drives fine but as you say, when 
riding over bumps..at slower speeds..the front wheels feel...wobbly, not 
really a clunk but kind a rumble or sorts for lack of better words.  The 
ball joints, bushings, tie rods have been replaced.  The control arm on the 
right was sqeaking at one time, but it stopped and never returned.


I have to agree with you...I bought my '300D in 2000, and this list has been 
invaluable to me.  Where on earth would I have learned what I have learned?  
I think the ultimate for me would be if Doctor Booth inspected my car.  WOW! 
  Kudos Marchall.  I am actually adding a guy later today...he has two..a 
'86 300SDL and a 560SL.  I keep telling him, and others to connect and 
informed.  Everyonethanks for all the knowlege..past..present and 
future.  Happy Thanksgiving!


Rhonald
1985 300D
280,000 miles
Black/palomino
Washington, DC

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From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Resolved: Sway Bar Bushings on 124 (Clunk)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:53:56 -0500

John Peterson wrote:
 >
> I really like my MB dealer here -- Carriage House of New London CT, and
> think they are very honest.  BUT they can't diagnose better than the
> collective knowledge of this brainy list.

Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car

[Rhonald Angelo]

So..Andrew, did you get it?

Rhonald
1985 300D
280,000 miles
Washington, DC
Black/Palomino

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From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:40:08 -0500

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Way too much? It's GORGEOUS.
>
> On 11/21/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-XMRadio-Leather-Lots-Mechanical-Restored_W0QQitemZ4589060995QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything
really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when cold
(white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is
good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they
are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi
on average in Pittsburgh.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Cell Phones in the car

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hi, make it three!  I don't own one either..my eyes are first focused on the 
road, my periphial vision on the 3 pointed star. I JUST talked to a buddy 
this morning...he got a call last night, and at that moment when the phone 
rang...pow!  Right into the back of someone's car.  Thankfully, he was not 
going that fast.  When are these people going to learn?


Rhonald
1985 300D
280,000 miles
Washington, DC

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From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cup Holder for1995 E320
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:01:32 -0500

Dave M. wrote:
> I dream of the day when phones are banned nationwide from being used
> by the driver when the car is in motion.
>
> *sigh*
>
>
> -Dave M.
> (one of the last people on planet Earth who does not own a cell phone!)

That's two of us!

Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
turbo 237kmi

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Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring

[Rhonald Angelo]

Thanks All

Rhonald
1985 300D

Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Kevin, Marshall, what is transmission flaring and what does it sound and 
feel like when driving?


Rhonald
1985 300D
288,000 miles
Black & Palomino
Washington, DC

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:17:28 -0400

Kevin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:44:01AM -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
>>Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to 
diagnose
>>several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back 
home

>>and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985
>>300CD vs. the 1983 300TD!
>
> Caught me off guard for a minute, but the color coding pointed me in the 
right

> direction. Car seems to shift a lot better now, we'll see if it fixes
> the flaring in the 2-3 shift.
>
> Moral of the story: I guess same year same engine same chassis (both 124)
> isn't enough similarity...
>
> K

There are OFTEN mid model year revisions. Sometimes it requires the VIN
number to be sure (and that isn't always foolproof) and many of the
smallest changes aren't included in ANY service literature.

Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] learn something new everyday

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Kaleb, I have the original sticker for my 85 300 D, and it shows a 
factory alarm.  I have never heard it go off, and I have had the doors on 
the other side to not close, also my rear drivers side door lock does not 
work any longer, I open the door before turning the key to open the drivers 
door..h...wouldn't that normally set off an alarm?  Interesting...I 
never thought about this until seeing this post.  Thanks


Rhonald
1985 300D
288,000 miles
Black & Palomino
Washington, DC

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:21:03 -0500

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> On my 85 300D, doors were locked with central locking via drivers door.
>   The passenger front door was not fully closed so didnt lock.  Went to
> open it and the horn starts going off.  WTF?  I have never heard of any
> 123's with factory alarms.  Sure enough I checked the owners manual and
> its got a section on it.  I have NEVER heard of 123's with alarms
> before.  WOW.

It was an option in Euro cars, but I didn't know it was available in the
US (it was in 126s).

Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] Whistle

[Rhonald Angelo]

Hey Gabriel/Kaleb!   FINALLY!   Somebody else has it too..I have a 123 
and my 85 300D has had it since I bought it in 2000.  I have had it checked 
by 3 people and all say it is fine...I think next Spring I will replace the 
turbo..it is not too bad in the Winter, but in spring and summer..it gets to 
be too much after a while.


Rhonald
1985 300D  280,000 miles
Black/Palomini
Washington, DC

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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> My 85 123 does the exact same thing.  Have not figured it out yet.
>
> Gabriel S. wrote:
>
>
>>Any of you 124 diesel owners ever had this problem...my car makes a 
strange
>>whistling sound (sounds like it's coming from the turbo) at highway 
speeds

>>at around half throttle...it goes away if i floor it or back off the gas.

Some '84-'85 OM617.95 engines with Garrett turbos (NOT KKKs) made a
whistling noise that can only be repaired by changing the turbo (TSB
09/4 dated 11/85) or replacing several perts of the turbo. Mercedes
offered a kit for a few years (only available with a core to return - as
the major part in the kit was manufactured from returned original parts)
containing the parts to correct the offending turbo (917 090 00 99).
Modification of the turbo parts required services of a very well
equipped machine shop and a very good machinist. Mercedes did not expect
service facilities to perform the modification so supplied the kit -
until the early '90s I believe.

On OM60x.96 turbos and all other OM617.95 turbos, a whistle is caused by
a leak in the turbo or exhaust system (including the EGR) somewhere.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] From the Washington Post

[Rhonald Angelo]

Thanks for that post Marshall..very interesting read.

Rhonald
1985 300D
280,000 miles
Black/Palomino
Washington, DC

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Subject: [MBZ] From the Washington Post
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:16:49 -0400

Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

By Michael D. Tusiani

Monday, August 8, 2005; Page A15 Washington Post

Automakers are eager to sell you a diesel-powered vehicle. One of their
responses to the rising price of gasoline has been to tell American
motorists they can keep their large, powerful vehicles and at the same
time save on fuel by buying a car or truck that burns diesel instead of
gasoline. The new energy bill establishes a tax credit as large as
$3,400 for diesels, matching the break allowed for hybrids.

Diesel-fueled vehicles do afford somewhat better mileage and may not
require as much maintenance as gasoline-burners. But now and for years
to come, the U.S. refining industry simply cannot produce enough diesel
fuel to accommodate a significant increase in the number of vehicles
that burn it.


At this year's auto show in New York, a DaimlerChrysler executive
responsible for research and technology cited the success of
diesel-engine automobiles in Europe while suggesting that these vehicles
could gain a 5 to 10 percent share of the U.S. market. He made those
comments at the introduction of a Mercedes-Benz station wagon scheduled
to land in America in 2006. He did not mention, however, that because of
the popularity of diesel-powered autos, diesel oil prices in Europe are
soaring as demand pushes past the amount refiners can make.

European governments, working with automakers, have persuaded their
citizens to replace gasoline-powered cars with diesel. They set tax
rates to render diesel fuel cheaper than gasoline. But oil companies had
no reason to invest in additional equipment for diesel production.
Demand for diesel therefore bumps against the limit of supply. The
marketplace will remedy such a situation, but it will be slow (because
building new refining equipment takes time) and painful (because
high-cost fuel hurts the financially weak the most).

Refineries can be equipped to make either a high yield of diesel or a
high yield of gasoline, but not both. European refiners built their
equipment before governments started manipulating the fuel market. To
date, they have declined to scrap money-making gasoline production units
worth many billions of dollars and replace them with even more expensive
diesel hardware. But the market flirts with inducing such reinvestment.
On a pretax basis, diesel has become much more expensive than gasoline
in Europe. In five years European refineries may complete the
construction of equipment to significantly increase diesel oil output.
But in the meantime, Europe will have to import ever larger quantities
of diesel -- that is, if it can find supply. Europe has raised its
diesel quality standards to such a high level that very few refineries
in other parts of the world can manufacture an acceptable product.
Interestingly, the United States can. During a few months last winter,
U.S. refiners quietly shipped diesel to Europe. Due to our own demand,
that could not continue.

These exports undoubtedly raised U.S. prices while they lasted. In this
country, we burn diesel mostly for commercial transportation. As our
economy expands, we will need more fuel for trucks and locomotives to
transport goods. In 2004 trucks and other diesel-burning vehicles
required about 150,000 barrels per day more than in 2003 -- a one-year
increase of almost 5 percent. If America continues to prosper, this
commercial use of diesel will keep growing. Like their European
counterparts, U.S. refiners have not seen any reason to invest in
greater diesel production. In fact, they have a strong disincentive to
build diesel-making equipment: Unless refiners can increase crude oil
processing capacity, which seems unlikely, making more diesel will
reduce gasoline production. Furthermore, they have gasoline production
hardware that has only recently started to make solid profits for them
as the price of gasoline rises.

For diesel-powered autos and light trucks to achieve a market share of 5
to 10 percent, American motorists must be compelled to buy 800,000 to
1.7 million of them per year. We do not have the spare diesel production
capacity to cope with the additional demand that would produce, and we
will not have it for quite some time.

Give U.S. refiners about 10 years and they might significantly increase
diesel production capacity. It would take about that long to plan new
projects and run the regulatory and litigation gantlet. Until then, a
motorist buying one will have to compete for expensive diesel fuel in an
increasingly tight market. In the meantime, diesels do not increase
American motorists' practical choices. If the energy 

RE: [MBZ] Parts

[Rhonald Angelo]

Sorry Don, nothing personal but there is no room for you here.

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