Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/11/09 8:18, Tom Hargrave at tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: I believe you just made the argument against burning WVO that I was trying to figure out how to type. The issues are: You need a relatively complex, relatively expensive system to properly run WVO in your Mercedes including 2 tanks (original diesel added WVO). You need a multi-stage heating system. You need to remember to switch between fuels. Hi, sorry for the delayed reply. I abolutely agree that svo/wvo is not for everyone. However, keep in mind that in the northeast (of Canada, anyway), we only have commercial access to B20 at best, due to climatic concerns with our sustained low winter temps. One could, of course brew one's own. But that is another issue. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/11/09 9:27, Tom Hargrave at tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: You and a few others are doing it right but based on the trashed diesels I've seen around here, I'd say that 90% or more are doing it wrong. I could not agree more. The temptation to save money, combined with the fact that in most cases no obvious ill effects show up within the first thousands of miles of use, ensure that lots of well-meaning people are destroying their diesel Mercedes each day with improper use of WVO. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/8/09 21:11, Michael LaFleur at mike.lafl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Why is it that every benz that has an engine problem that was run on WVO, WVO is blamedas the reason for the failure, but every other benz that has an engine problem, diesel is not the blame? Mike NAIL. HEAD. BANG. MAC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/8/09 21:17, Tyler at casi...@usermail.com wrote: These sort of engine problems are essentially unheard of in MB diesels that haven't run WVO. HORSESH*T. This list is turning into some sort of reality-denying cult, I swear to god. Mercedes diesels expire regularly for any number of reasons completely unrelated to WVO OR SVO, poor maintenance, or the position of the astrological calendar. As do any number of other diesel and gasoline engines. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/8/09 20:30, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: prime example of what WVO will do. It may very well have broken rings though. Let me correct your typo, Kaleb. What a poorly done WVO installation will do. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/8/09 14:02, tyler at casi...@usermail.com wrote: I might get this thing if it doesn't seem too far gone. Even some Mobil 1 and an italian tuneup on B100 might clean the carbon out if it can still start. If the car was running WVO in a poor installation it's far beyond carbon. It's polymerized oil that broke the rings or did other damage. A machine shop can probably clean it out, but it's probably not worth it. BTW, the very LAST thing you want to do, if you have an engine with suspected gummed-up rings, is run any synthetic oil through it. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/10/09 3:32, Luther at benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Frybrid is in this for profit. Please show me independent and repeatable research that shows where VO (WVO or SVO) will not cause long term damage to an engine. If you want evidence, I suggest you contact Elsbett in Germany, which has been producing kits for conversions for at least 30 years and in fact designed and produces a diesel engine purpose-designed for running on VO. North America is the come-lately to the use of VO in diesel engines. It has been in use elsewhere for a very long time. It is an inevitable conceit of the marketplace that companies like Frybrid and Greasecar would be happy if the world thought they came up with the idea. Of course, if you want to engage in flat-earth society denial, you could do so more effectively by visiting one of the VO forums and engaging people there who have successfully converted all manner of diesels: autos, trucks, heavy equipment, truck fleets, etc. I am sure they are eagerly awaiting your probing questions. There is a dime's worth of experience being parlayed into a million bucks worth of opinion on this topic, on this list. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
Race engine builders recommend that to free up sticky rings, use the thinnest oil you can for as long as the engine will stand it (even if that is 20 minutes). The same additives in synthetics that add to synthetics' slipperiness, tend to worsen the ring sludge. I started asking about this after I had to give up on an OM616 with one or two sticky rings, about three weeks after switching to Mobil 1. The smoke got slowly worse by the day as soon as I switched over. We have a rally engine builder locally and that is who I got the answer from. Mac on 5/10/09 21:43, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: really, and why is that? Steve MacSween wrote: on 5/8/09 14:02, tyler at casi...@usermail.com wrote: I might get this thing if it doesn't seem too far gone. Even some Mobil 1 and an italian tuneup on B100 might clean the carbon out if it can still start. If the car was running WVO in a poor installation it's far beyond carbon. It's polymerized oil that broke the rings or did other damage. A machine shop can probably clean it out, but it's probably not worth it. BTW, the very LAST thing you want to do, if you have an engine with suspected gummed-up rings, is run any synthetic oil through it. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2107 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/10/09 21:32, Luther at benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Steve, do you have any repeatable correctly done scientific proof that any form of SVO will NOT damage an engine? If so, please provide this so I may repeat the research. Luther First, see my other response. Second, stop your nonsense about scientific research, it's a form of wrapping oneself in the flag and proclaiming righteousness. You know very well that no one on these lists has much scientific research for the great majority of the knowledge and opinion that gets exchanged. If you want to ask about such matters, go to the appropriate place -- one of the established** WVO/SVO forums, and ask away to your heart's content. There are people on those forums who have 10-20 years in the field. And, as a matter of fact, some of them DO have scientific work on the properties of VO. cheers Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
on 5/10/09 10:59, Peter Frederick at psf...@earthlink.net wrote: If you have poor combustion, I suspect that WVO WILL coke up the rings pretty fast, and I suspect most of the cheapskates who want to run free fuel aren't going to put the $ into getting the engine into tip top shape first. That is one big problem. The other difficulty is that the existing **mainstream** kit manufacturers (e.g., Frybrid, Greasecar, NOT the $500 fly-by-nighters like Lovecraft and certain eBay vendors, who are just Gong Show peformers) tend to deliver basic packages that are lowest-common-denominator at best. The kit suppliers just cannot arrive at an acceptable market price point by including everything necessary to ensure optimimum performance and best insurance against premature wear for a wide range of vehicle conditions and operating conditions (use patterns, climatic conditions, driving habits). As well, they vary in terms of how well they screen their potential mail-order customers in terms of the destination vehicle's age, maintenance history, compression specs, etc. (They are, however, scrupulous in terms of how they assess the vehicles they convert in-house.) In my opinion, there is not one kit on the market that does not require additional gear to safely run SVO/WVO over the long term. By my standards, not one kit provides sufficient heat at the injectors, and many are way below spec even before the injection pump. And there is almost nowhere in the U.S. or Canada, save perhaps afternoons in Death Valley, where you can safely run a single-tank system. Anyone who sells such solutions if pushing garbage for profit (excepting the German firm Elsbett, whose kits are very pricey and technically sophisticated, and not aimed at either DIYers or North American conditions). The other big problem is the question of the actual oil. A good deal of used restaurant oil is far too worn out to be usable. Worn out or poorly filtered WVO will ensure you kill a motor. Add to this poor compression, as Peter was talking about, and you will kill it even quicker. Proper WVO treatment is an entire area of debate in and of itself. Many people have complex arrangements, and do their own batch testing. I am not knowledgeable in this area. WVO use IS an experimental concept. It is not for everyone. If you think it's hokum, I am not likely to convince you otherwise. OTOH, bear in mind that the mainstream of car enthusiasts feel about the same about people who choose to drive 15-30 year old diesel Mercedes, as Luther feels about WVO. You have to at least keep an open mind. Cheers to all. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
Oh please. Unnamed sources. Wild allegations with no attribution. I am shocked and appalled that someone in GOVERNMENT would DARE to BULLY someone from as blameless as the AUTO INDUSTRY. Or worse the FINANCIAL SECTOR. Oh, for SHAME. Right now we people (you in the U.S. and by extension, us in Canada) have a 1 in 5 reasonable chance of having an auto industry in 10 years. So sorry, but even if this is accurate, so it must be. None of the detroit automakers have, on the basis of their corporate records, any excuse to live. Whatever the Obama administration may or may not be up to, is the equivalent of the doctor shouting orders in the ER when the 500-lb burger and twinkie addict, who has ignored medical advice for 20 years, rolls in from the ambulance with his heart stopped. Corporate America (and Canada) has been bullying government for as long as I can remember. Obama isn't stupid, nor is he a stooge. He has picked out the only stick he has at his disposal to beat these b*st*rds with, and he's making good use of it. The comparison with Kissinger is, by the way, several steps past pathetic. I am old enough to remember Kissinger. Can't believe no one ever killed the evil SOB. Mac 5/5/09 15:33, Mitch Haley at m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-allegations-of-white-house-threats-over-chy sler-2009-5 One person described the administration as the most shocking end justifies the means group they have ever encountered. Another characterized Obama was the most dangerous smooth talker on the planet- and I knew Kissinger. Both were voters for Obama in the last election. Two trite phrases come to mind: You asked for Him, you got Him, and What goes around comes around. Now I know how people felt about me when I'd bitch about unPatriot Act Bush after admitting to voting for him in both 2000 elections. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT autotrader update
on 5/1/09 18:19, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: In case anybody cares, I just got the word today that Cox has decided to now shut down and stop printing the auto and truck trader books. Just FYI Wow. Now that is something. I always regarded the core weekly book operations as a virtual license to print money. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car runs excellent and on 90 percent Vegetable Oil with 10 percent Diesel.
on 5/1/09 17:29, Rich Thomas at richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1149290619.html No conversion needed to run the Vegetable Oil. [and probably gets 40mpg on it too] Yebbut he's wondering why his rings are now encased in polymer. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT autotrader update
So it's another example of a big corporation coming in and managing to turn a very profitable local or regional business into one that would not generate sufficient profits for them to justify it in their operations? We are going through that up here with TV networks closing local stations because they claimed they could not make money. Horsehockey. Mac on 5/2/09 13:21, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: It was, around here anyway. Steve MacSween wrote: on 5/1/09 18:19, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: In case anybody cares, I just got the word today that Cox has decided to now shut down and stop printing the auto and truck trader books. Just FYI Wow. Now that is something. I always regarded the core weekly book operations as a virtual license to print money. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Parting out '82 300TD
Parts? Hell w123 TDs are so rare here now, no one would think twice about putting a motor into one if it wasn't rotten. Sheesh. West coast. Those guys see two rust bubbles on a wheelarch and go squirrely :0. Mac on 4/25/09 7:54, David Hemsley at sltryman2...@hotmail.com wrote: Not sure how I should be responding to a former lister? I would be interested in the radiator, cruise control elements, oil cooler and the Euro Lights. Dave H... Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:58:05 -0700 From: j...@windwireless.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Parting out '82 300TD Forwarded from a former lister: I'm thinking of parting out my 82 300TD, yes, a wagon, blue with tan leather interior, euro lights. Trans only works in reverse, and the engine leaks like a sieve from the front and rear mainseals. Interested in the car or some parts? Rory Morrison Oroville, WA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobil e2_042009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/3161 5ad4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's Site Errors?
Just call Rusty for stuff like that. The front end of the site is owned/maintained by Rusty, but the actual parts listings are from WorldPac and the same messages are appearing a lot on all the parts supplier sites linked to their listings (I even got this at a mostly-NA car site for my '05 Magnum on some parts). Parts for older Mercedes started getting difficult to come by through WorldPac in Canada two years ago. My local supplier was having to go to smaller suppliers and importers on many items. Possibly the same thing is now happening stateside? Mac on 4/26/09 19:37, Greg Fiorentino at gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I need some parts to rebuild the vacuum pump on my son's 240D. But when I logged into buymbparts and selected the parts today, all I get is: There are no PARTS available for subcategory: Vacuum Pump Repair Kit. Please select a different subcategory. Or click here for a special order! I get this same message for a lot of other parts I'm pretty sure he has in stock also. Is this just me?? Does anyone know what's up with this?? Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Miss Marshall
I have thought of SO many things I wanted to ask him, that I never got around to. Offbeat and weird things, that only someone who had been around Mercedes diesels for 40? 50? years would have known. In any case he was a constant for so long, on most of the lists, that it was kind of like hearing god had been declared dead. Just having him around gave a list a certain prestige. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats wrong with this one
Yes but the ALDA has no effect on starting, idle or very low throttle driving. So the first part could make sense, that is the lack of power, but the no-start isn't an ALDA issue. Mac on 4/25/09 9:06, Rich Thomas at richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Thought it said it wouldn't go much over 30? --R John Freer wrote: But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/5 9779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/9a5d f487/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats wrong with this one
on 4/24/09 21:28, Allan Streib at str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html Could be as simple as a clogged fuel filter or tank strainer. Peter, ask him if he had recently filled it up, and if so was it his usual station or somewhere new. Also did he dump an additive or cleaner into the fuel recently? If you overuse one of the powerful ones it can push a load of crud up the pipe all at once, and the filters clog. Also when/if the fuel filters have been changed? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disconnected rear self leveling system in W123 300TD wagon
That is a possible scenario. The TD cylinder head is unique, as the pump for the rear suspension hyraulics bolts onto it. Mac on 4/23/09 22:51, andrew strasfogel at astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking at another 300TD wagon that is otherwise very nice, but had the self sevelling sytem disconnected when the PO installed a replacement engine. I presume this means the hydraulic struts were swapped out with regular gas shocks. Does this raise a red flag? What if the replacement engine came from a 300D and was therefore incompatible with the rear hydraulic system. Could they accommodate the wrong engine only by disconnecting the SLS? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090423/2c5e 2877/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax Request - 2nd Request
on 4/23/09 22:45, andrew strasfogel at astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have one too! Should be an 85 TD WDBAB93C7FF035664 TIA, Andrew Yes it is, and it should have upward of 278k on it. I will forward it to you when it hits my email inbox. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disconnected rear self leveling system in W123 300TD wagon
Ah, let me try that again. The pump runs off the cam, so the pump bolts THROUGH the head. Mac on 4/23/09 23:05, Steve MacSween at steve.macsw...@videotron.ca wrote: That is a possible scenario. The TD cylinder head is unique, as the pump for the rear suspension hyraulics bolts onto it. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disconnected rear self leveling system in W123 300TD wagon
Of course it's possible. At this age (for those cars) it isn't hugely unusual. Sometimes someone just swaps the wrong head onto one, as the TD heads are more expensive/rare. Someone may call me out on this, but IIRC the cheaper Touring models (e.g., 200TD) in Europe did not come with self-levelling. But you would need some decent shocks in back, to preserve its capability to carry loads. Mac on 4/23/09 23:16, andrew strasfogel at astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SO is it possible or impossible to swap the WRONG engine into a 300TD? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca wrote: Ah, let me try that again. The pump runs off the cam, so the pump bolts THROUGH the head. Mac on 4/23/09 23:05, Steve MacSween at steve.macsw...@videotron.ca wrote: That is a possible scenario. The TD cylinder head is unique, as the pump for the rear suspension hyraulics bolts onto it. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090423/9582 c12d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the Uber crack smoker
There have been a couple of 116s advertised in that price territory in my region as well. Though they are now rare as hen's teeth, it's just the hey it's real old and it's a MARCEDES syndrome striking once again. If my experience is any guide, the vendors are usually either completely clueless dolts OR the kind of MBCA nutbag that leaves you ready to chew a limb off after five minutes, just to escape his monologue. Mac on 4/21/09 19:14, Hendrik Fay at heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Ahh come on now guys, it can burn bio Diesel. Did the seller mention that? Anyway did this fella offer any precedents to show that 116's are bringing in the big bucks, sounds like an idiot waiting for an idiot or in other words dumb and dumber. Hendrik Curt Raymond wrote: My pal with the $27K 300SD writes back that nobody has actually offered him $20K its just what is friends with antique cars would offer if they were offering. In other words its grade A fertilizer. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Creating a 240 3.0 (T)D
I wonder that as well. However, trying to find a decent turbodiesel tranny around here is just about impossible. The yards won't even give 30 days on the ones they have, and their assessments of them aren't inspiring. The one now mated to my engine performs ok on the road as long as it has no vacuum hooked up (so it's jerky), but the delay going into reverse is almost comic. mac on 4/21/09 8:18, Mitch Haley at m...@voyager.net wrote: I'm thinking that putting an engine with twice the torque in front of that tranny will result in major slippage unless major pressure adjustments are made, and it still might be difficult to eliminate all flare without introducing a good jerk on one or more shifts. The crazy Finns do seem able to tune a 300D box from a W124 to handle 400hp, so anything is possible. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals
Likely to cause problems sorting out an even idle? The reason I ask is that I once forgot to install one seal/shield on my 240d and it idled really strange. Mac on 4/20/09 18:56, Peter Frederick at psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sluggish performance, fuel bubbling out around the injectors. Could burn the pre-chambers if they leak really badly, but otherwise no real issuse, I don't think. If it starts and runs, they are sealed pretty well. May toast the injector nozzles though. Peter On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: I've had several diesels that were missing the seals, more correctly called heat shields. I saw no damage to the engine and as soon as I realized they were missing, I installed them. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals Anyone want to tell me what the immediate (performance) and LONG-TERM effects of this might be on an OM617.952 (say driving 2 years that way)? Thanks Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release Date: 4/18/2009 9:55 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release Date: 4/18/2009 9:55 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Creating a 240 3.0 (T)D
If you think I asked this same question a couple of years ago, yeah I did but I lost a hard drive in the interim so bear with me as I cannot remember where the discussion went. I have a 240d with a toasted motor that I want to convert to a 5 cyl. diesel or turbodiesel. But I want to keep the 240d AUTOMATIC transmission, as it performs like new. Has anyone actually mated a 617.952 to the AUTOBOX installed in 240d? One local Benz wrench swears he did such a swap at least once, years go. Other says it won't work. Thx Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody else seen?
WOW http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/Scamps.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals
Anyone want to tell me what the immediate (performance) and LONG-TERM effects of this might be on an OM617.952 (say driving 2 years that way)? Thanks Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] French?
on 4/16/09 23:20, Craig McCluskey at diese...@cnsp.com wrote: Le Mac, esti tabernac it fell down miserably on this one. What does it mean? Nothing of import :) It means, literally, The Mac, tabernac(le). French Canadians lived oppressed by the long, dark shadow of their quasi-fascist Catholic clergy for more than a century. Having thrown off the shackles of Mother Church in the 1960s, they for some time used with much enthusiasm its formerly sacred vocabulary as curse words: (some blanks used here in an attempt not to offend anyone with sincerely held beliefs) Tabernac! Colis! (chalice) Colis de tabernac! Maudit petit christ!!! (F___ing baby ) Nom de petit christ!!! (literally, in 's name, but equivalent to Oh for chrissake) Nom de Dieu! (literally, in god's name, the gentlest form, used mostly by the elderly) Sorry my brain is fogged with a departing flu and I can't remember any more offhand. But if you ever break down in Quebec and your car is towed to a shop populated by an older generation of wrenches, you will probably hear a good selection. The younger generation lately has moved away from these I find, favoring bastardizations of slang from U.S. films. Vin Diesel would be proud. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] French?
on 4/15/09 19:37, WILTON at wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: C'est Quebecoise dan Le Francais; Americanized to Quebecers, maybe, n'est-ce pas? Mais oui, mon ami! Le Mac, esti tabernac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C
Here in Quebec, the debate is even sharper as urban Quebeckers' purchasing patterns for vehicles are massively european. I would wager there are more Smarts and Yaris and Civics per mile here than anywhere else in North America, probably by at least a factor of 2. When you cross into the U.S., hell even when you cross into Ontario, the difference in the cars you see on the roads is striking. OTOH, rural Quebecers purchase like Americans. Can you say Dodge Ram? I think the IIHS is making the point that the roads of Europe, for example, are not crammed with 18-wheelers and full-size 4x4s in the same way as in NA. They are becoming alarmed at the stats arising from meetings between our giants and the ever-shrinking minicar segment. At what price, a few extra MPG? No amount of crush zones and airbags will ever replace the good old vault-like body structure of a w116/w123/w126 etc. Mac on 4/15/09 12:43, Greg Fiorentino at gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Check out the actual stats kept by the insurance institutes. They gather and distribute data used by insurers to determine financial risk. This is not Detroit propaganda, it's information used by businesses to make financial decisions. Both the US and Canadian data point to full-size vehicles having less dollar payouts for injuries than smaller cars. OTOH the 240D is not exactly a lightweight either! Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C Wonko wrote: I'd own a Smart in a moment, especially if it was a diesel. Along with you, I would own a used Smart anyday - I thought they had a diesel? I am not impressed with the adv war against the small car - it is big car detroit out to squash the nimble small car, methinks. Also, think for a minute - well over 80% of the cars that have ever been driven on the roads were driven without airbags. Well over 90% being driven today have airbags - my 240D is the exception and I have no fear in the least. I think the statistics are still in my favor and even better if I drive like an olde man. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this looks half way decent for the money
Yeah, but ANOTHER one with a custom WVO conversion. You really think it worth the money? Mac on 4/11/09 21:46, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: check out the boost guage http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SDL-1987-Mercedes- 300-SDL_W0QQitemZQQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: $2k 84 300SD if anyone is interested
For God's sake, don't go for the guy on eBay who makes the same claims as leatherique and sells at about 1/3 their price. Luckily I only used his for some trim, not my seats (though it was marketed for leather as well). You will be ordering extra for touchups until the end of time. No, sorry I cannot remember his seller ID but last time I looked he had a mass of listings under every make of car with leather imaginable. Mac on 4/9/09 0:34, Jim Cathey at j...@windwireless.net wrote: Incidentally, has anyone found a good dye for the Mercedes 1980s blue leather interiors? I do mean leather and not MB Tex. Leatherique? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker
I am not sure about $4k either, but I can tell you that a living, breathing Chevette will sell in a heartbeat around here. Restoration is one of the most abused words in the auto world :-0. Mac on 4/2/09 10:36, Curt Raymond at curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CHEVETTE-CS-1984-RARE-1-8-FACTORY-DIESEL_ W0QQitemZ160325298400QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6173QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem I have so many issues with this its crazy. Who would restore a Chevette, especially a diesel? How slow must it be, especially with an auto box? Who would pay $4000 for it? Crazy. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090402/4a4c ba43/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Driving Quebec?
Hi, you are probably thinking of me as the Quebec Guy. I don't have any experience on the route you mention as I am in extreme west Quebec, on the Ontario border, hence when I go Stateside I usually cut down through one of the Ontario crossings into NY State. Our highways are generally fine, but the further you off the main highway the greater your chance of hitting some *challenging* stretches on a bike. This winter was worse than usual for frost damage to roadways and roadbeds. I can tell you right now that there are big heaves in many secondary roads and/or deterioration of road surfaces, particularly toward the shoulders. The cold patches they generally use in these places aren't a great help from an MC rider's point of view. At least around here. If you are an AAA member they may have some helpful info, I know that 'our' CAA provides info on routes due for paving, at least here in Canada. Good luck with your trip, -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s on 3/18/09 19:16, Wilton Strickland at wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Don't remember the roads in Quebec being so bad. 'Course, it's only been 35 years since I was there. ;)) I remember very clearly the beautiful summers in Ontario AND Quebec. (I remember some harsh winters in the Soo area of Ontario, too.) Nice drive north of Lake Superior from Soo to Thunder Bay for skiing last week in Dec, '74, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Driving Quebec? We had a joke that went, you could always tell once you left Ontario and hit Quebec by the number of potholes on the roads! Unfortunately, in Ontario, we're catching up fast the past couple of years with deferred roadwork here in Ontario too. Ed 300E 2009/3/18 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net I lived in Vermont near the Canadian border for a couple of years, then in BC for about 5 years. One big difference with the roads in Canada is poor maintenance, as in potholes! A friend of mine (an RCMP member) complained bitterly about hitting a huge pothole and destroying some tires. Don't expect signs or other indications that there are bad potholes ahead. If riding motorcycles, use appropriate caution. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics (Canadian cars!) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:24 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Driving Quebec? Perhaps I've misstated, its not that I want to know HOW to drive, I'm curious if anybody has any suggestions WHERE to drive in Quebec... Specific roads to avoid etc... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:42:58 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Driving Quebec? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpiebgnbaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I think it will essentially be like driving anywhere else, except when someone cuts you off, you have to swear at them in French. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:12 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Driving Quebec? I seem to remember somebody on the list being from Quebec but does anybody have experience driving around that province? A friend and I are thinking of taking a motorcycle trip this fall up into Quebec, specifically from central MA up through Vermont to Valcourt to see the Bombardier Museum, then to Quebec City, then around the top of Maine for a day or two at my camp and back home. Figure to make a 7 day trip out of it and travel something like 1000 miles. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dsource=s_dsaddr=winchendon,+madaddr=valcou rt,+qc,+canada+to:quebec+city+qc+to:car ibou,+maine+to:winchendon,+mahl=engeocode=mra=lsrtol=0,1,2,3sll=45.2439 53,-70.235596sspn=5.275545,9.799805ie =UTF8ll=45.073521,-70.147705spn=5.291326,9.799805z=7http://maps.google.c om/maps?f=dsource=s_dsaddr=winchendon,+madaddr=valcou%0Art,+qc,+canada+to :quebec+city+qc+to:car%0Aibou,+maine+to:winchendon,+mahl=engeocode=mra=ls rtol=0,1,2,3sll=45.2439%0A53,-70.235596sspn=5.275545,9.799805ie%0A=UTF8 ll=45.073521,-70.147705spn=5.291326,9.799805z=7 I'm curious about the roads, we've played with setting Google to avoid highways and it adds a surprisingly small amount of time... Thanks -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090318/e5 ef7a3c
Re: [MBZ] 300SD wipers done plum wo out
on 3/19/09 17:31, Rich Thomas at richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am hoping it is not necessary to replace the whole linkage a$$embly, that looks like it could be pricey, for a couple of $2 rubber bits. Look on eBay. I know I have seen the assemblies there before, and they weren't expensive. Not exactly a fast-moving item for the used parts guys. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
In my experience you run don't walk away from guys like that. Sounds to me like he copied another ad he found for a Mercedes diesel, otherwise why is he so negative in emails yet so full of love in the ad? Heh. mac on 1/16/09 9:48, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: Find a car I want to buy on craigslist. Its a long ways away, about 10 hours, but if its decent its worth it. Its got 1 crappy pic and very little description. So I email the guy and ask him if he has any additional pics he can email and if it leaks or burns anything. He replies back saying it leaks and burns everything, its an old diesel. No mention of pics. Ok, so I email him back and basically say, OK, no pics, how is the body, interior etc, any rust issues? Coming a long way and want to get more info before coming to get it. He replies back t his morning that I should not bother coming to get it, he is sure he will have it sold to somebody local pretty soon. WOW, Ok, that beats all I have ever saw. Why do people list something then do not try very hard at all to sell it? Anyway, if somebody is near this car and wants to look at it for me and possibly take it to their place till I can get there to get it let me know. Or, if somebody else wants it I guess thats OK too, after all, I am supposed to be on a buying freeze. 1991 Mercedes 300D (diesel) 4DR Reply to: sale-994154...@craigslist.org Date: 2009-01-15, 1:35PM This workhorse gets 40 plus miles per gallon. It's well used (265,000+ miles) but starts every time and runs like a tank. The AC's on the blink but the power sunroof works and power windows work. Has power locks, leather seats, new Pioneer stereo/CD. Automatic. Good cheap transportation -- on the highway it runs smooth and fast and sips at the fuel. It's been in the family for a long time but it was time for something newer. Look now it won't stay on market long. * Location: Troy, AL * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL:http://montgomery.craigslist.org/cto/994154948.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gee fo
on 1/15/09 10:40, Jim Cathey at j...@windwireless.net wrote: for web browsing and email you don't really NEED all that much horsepower. I've got a 2.4Ghz Intel mobo and processor at home with 2GB of RAM and its entirely adequate for all my needs on the email/web browsing/web page creation/graphics editing front as a home user. As is this 233 MHz Mac G3 that I'm using. It's a little slow to start apps, but even Illustrator and Photoshop are quite usable on it. We just upped its RAM to the maximum, 768 MB. Merry Christmas to you, Mr. June 1998 and still running strong. Seconded by my Mac Molar G3 that sends this. mac (not an apple) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the debate on if I am keeping the red 300E or the 190D has been solved
on 1/13/09 12:32, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just sold the red 300E for 3k, couldnt turn down that deal. So I guess I am keeping the 190D for a while. You just reminded me of something. You got any OM617s or OM616s lying around you need to sell :)? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the debate on if I am keeping the red 300E or the 190D has been solved
Engines, oh lord I don't need more cars :( Mac on 1/13/09 13:33, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: engines or cars? Steve MacSween wrote: on 1/13/09 12:32, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just sold the red 300E for 3k, couldnt turn down that deal. So I guess I am keeping the 190D for a while. You just reminded me of something. You got any OM617s or OM616s lying around you need to sell :)? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1891 - Release Date: 1/13/2009 8:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Daily driving old cars (was 2005 Magnum)
on 1/8/09 21:34, Mountain Man at maontin@gmail.com wrote: I think it applies to the dialog. We are a culture that has gotten waaay beyond the necessity of living and are hurting ourselves for it. mao I read these discussions with great interest. One of the main reasons I stuck with the older cars for years was my belief in the fact that there is a certain nobility in keeping something that was built to last and serve a useful purpose, active and useful. Just as, for example, my parents always purchased the high-end furniture and had it refinished/recovered/rebuilt as the decades passed. Unfortunately, you can only be the salmon who decides to swim against the current up to a certain point. In my part of the northeast/rustbelt there is simply no interest in older cars anymore, as far as the auto industry is concerned. There are virtually no wrenches left who have the inclination to work on even the most pristine older Benz for anything resembling sane money. The markups on working on the newer European models are just too alluring. They see a 126 as a bothersome anachronism. A turbodiesel 126 drips oil on their shop floor to boot. The guy who gave me the $440 bill for my tranny cable actually had the brass balls to complain about that. I kid you not. And that car did not leak much. Oh, there were bright spots. My local import parts dealer always helped me out. But they are getting frustrated. Every last significant part I ordered over the last year was either wrong (listing problem) or failed right out of the box and had to be exchanged. Not sustainable for them. The manager of the parts counter of one of our local dealers is a great guy. He always helped me out. But over the last few months I have been hearing something I never before experienced with Mercedes: Sorry, that's NLA (or backordered forever, in Mercedes parlance). Kaleb suffers from the conceit common to many people who are knowledgeable about working on older cars. If I understand it, it cannot be hard. Unfortunately I was born with two left thumbs, I am not naturally mechanically inclined and what I have learned came really, really hard over many hours of trial, error and more error. Yeah, in the parlance of my high school years, I'm a five-star dork. And I got into wrenching my own stuff way too late in life. My bad on that. When you take the attitude that you should not be driving an older car if you cannot do this or that job, then this community starts to sound like a religious cult. It makes me very uncomfortable. Most of the people I have corresponded with on these assorted MB lists (and I have been around since Hurst was looking for his first Mercedes on Dave L's original one) relied on some level of shop support to keep their cars on the road. When that is no longer there, you are at the mercy of people's memories as you troll multiple lists for advice, in the hope that someone has had the same situation as you in the past. I can tell you have had numerous instances where I either came up empty-handed, or worse got bad advice from someone whose memory had evidently faded. As usual I have rambled a bit. So yes, I miss my 126 and I miss making a statement against the consumer culture. But the man will get you in the end, as we used to say in the 70s. So will trying to drive 25-yr old cars in a region whose climate ranges from -35 deg C in the worst of the winter, to 35 deg C or more with punishing humidity in the summers. Old equipment creaks, groans and fails when asked to tackle that. And so, finally, did I :) Cheers Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
There are no reasonably priced competent wrenches left in my area for the older cars. The only shop that is left has a shop rate of $90 per hour and they take bookings for two weeks down the road. They charged me $440 (P L) to replace the shift cable on my w126. Nay nay. I'm turning 50 this year and have an older house that also demands my time, so I'm too old and tired to spend time on old cars anymore, except as a hobby. I did keep my w111 and my cherry Texan w123 240d, both of which need engines. But driving a newer car with no issues is SO much more relaxing, in daily driver terms. I paid my dues over decades with old used Volvos and then Benzes, now I've 'retired' to Chrysler. You do know that the 300/Magnum/Charger were developed off Benz chassis, right? The Magnum is a nice piece of work. They eat them up in Europe, apparently. Mac on 1/7/09 11:57, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: What is it with you long term hard core MB people buying crap american cars? First toad goes all chrysler on us, now you. Steve MacSween wrote: Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO. I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market. After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it. The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models): Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMMER Subaru Forester: pricey for what you get, slightly cramped for me Subaru Outback: nice once I folded myself in two to get into it Volkswagen Passat: put me to sleep in 5 minutes Scion Van: kewl but unbearably cheap inside and you can hear every suspension movement every moment you drive Mazda 5: too cramped Volvo xc70: WOW best seats of any car anywhere, decent handling, scary repair stories so I ran away 300e: they are all scary movie time up here now, no decent ones left 300td: only decent one I have seen for months blew up (no joke) the day before I was to go see it Nissan Rogue: too cramped, nice package tho Dodge Caliber: Drove it as a rental for 3 weeks while I shopped. CVT sounds like a roto rooter half the time. Huge inside but I got tired of banging my head every time I got in, really quick. You can start the flames now ;). Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 1/6/2009 7:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
on 1/7/09 10:42, Jim Cathey at j...@windwireless.net wrote: I got trapped behind a RWD Chrysler (not Magnum, a sedan, probably 300) in light snow last month. He had decent tires (the snow was sticking to them, they were totally white), limited slip or locking diff, and a gentle foot (or traction control), but the tires just slipped 3-5mph without the car really getting anywhere. More of the same when we got to the street, but he did eventually get up to 20-25mph. This was in maybe 1/2 of fresh but wet snow. Probably just like my Camaro. With proper narrow-profile snow tires and a bit of weight in the trunk it got around just fine. Stock? Acted like you described. If the snow was stuck in them, they were not decent M + S tires. My Magnum is excellent on snow and ice with snow tires on. It does have a very sensitive go pedal, however, so you have to be very easy on the throttle input off the line in slippery conditions. Best RWD I have ever driven in snow, aside from the old Volvo 240, which Car and Driver once called the best RWD ever made for snow. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
on 1/7/09 14:22, Peter Merle at merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Which merc are they based on? Here in SA no one is interested in buying American vehicles - the Japs , European and now Chinese have the market Peter I think the w124. This is what MB was doing with Chrysler. The Pacific was based on the first-gen M class, the Crossfire on the first CLK. The Japs own the market here very much as well. I got the Magnum for easily $6-7k less than a comparable Japanese vehicle of the same vintage/mileage/equipment level. The Chargers are much more expensive and hard to fine, the Chrysler 300s about $2k more. The Magnum has dipped in value (except for the R/T and SRT) because it has been discontinued. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
on 1/7/09 15:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable on a 126 and dont have alot of money to pay somebody to do it, then you probably should not own it. Nothing ridiculous about that. I have seen far too many of these cars run into the ground by people who dont know how to work on them and cant pay somebody to fix them right. Yeah, well in my case there is a slight problem in that I am phobic about being under a car that is off the ground. If I can crawl underneath and work with the car sitting on its tires that is ok, but jackstands forget it. I don't even like going underneath a car on the hoist in my buddy's shop. I may try again this summer using Rhino-ramps, for some reason seeing something solid looks ok to me (as opposed to the steel-frame ramps I have lugged around for 20 years and used twice). The other thing you might want to bear in mind is that not all of us live in sunshine or temperate locales. I live in the snow belt and have no garage, so to begin with I'm stuck using shops for at least five months a year, best case scenario, even for basic stuff. $440 for a shift cable replacement is not paying someone to do something properly, it's flat out robbery. I almost fell on my butt when he handed me the bill. This shop used to hire ex-dealer mechanics, which I understand when it comes to justifying their hourly rate. Now it's just any punk they train up. Nay nay guys. Oh and I liked it SO MUCH when they drained my 6-month-old M1 transmission fluid (which I had instructed them to re-use) and dumped it because we detected particles. Never heard of straining fluid, eh, guys? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
on 1/7/09 17:52, Kevin Kraly at kr...@comcast.net wrote: The adjuster is broken on mine. The piece on the housing that threads in is broken off, but there are threads further up. I was going to try to fix it or modify it to make it work properly. The cable itself is fine. What is involved in changing the cable? The cable connects inside the tranny. You have to drop the pan to connect the tranny end. By the way, this brings up another issue with living with older MBs as daily transport. The first cable the shop got was the wrong one. This happened over and over and over to me with this w126. They ask for the VIN and I still got the wrong parts over and over. Also just as a point of interest, WorldPac has delisted (or are showing permanent backorder on) a LOT of parts in Canada that are still available stateside. So I was running into problems in that department too. For example, I had to buy my rear subframe bushings off eBay. Or pay almost $400 at the local dealer. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] German engineered
on 1/7/09 18:34, relng...@aol.com at relng...@aol.com wrote: Problem is, a lot of their ideas were at the other end of the scale, and the customers paid the price. A policy I have referred to as The Customer-Financed Field Testing Program. OH YEAH. VW still seems to do it as a regular biz practice. The Europeans really, really need to get their automotive act together soon or they will lose what they still have of the north american market. They make the best driving cars, but the headaches over the longer term just aren't worth it. To me, ownership of any post-w124 Benz as a used vehicle (not under a warranty) is a laudable act of bravery :) Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
No, this one runs inside for sure. Mac on 1/7/09 19:49, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: Actually, the last several cables I have done did not require the pan to be dropped at all, you can hook it from up top without dropping the pan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
The visibility I find fine in driving, but I am tall and I think the narrow windows probably work better for me than a shorter person. Parking lots at night and/or in rain or snow mean you drive it like a van when backing up - use the (excellent) mirrors as well as looking behind. The mirrors are the best of any car I have ever driven, obviously developed to balance off the narrow windows. I really, really liked the Forester and came within a hair of buying one. I was actually on the way to drive another one when I decided to visit a dealer with a pile of ex-lease Chryslers on his lot for cheap. That was that. For a 2005 American car my Mag is in incredible shape. Would pass for brand new to most people. Either Chrysler has improved its interior materials vastly, or Chrysler corporate leasing spends major dollars on refurbishing its returns before cycling them through the auction. The leather seats are unmarked and uncreased, everything looks and works as new save a few scratches on the chrome surround of the gear selector. Even the cargo area is pristine. mac on 1/7/09 19:23, Scott Ritchey at ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Good rundown on what's out there. We went through a similar search last year. SWMBO insisted on a wagon but didn't like the looks of the Magnum so I never drove it. How do you find visibility (CU criticized it)? We eventually went with the Outback but it IS cramped, at least compared to the Sable wagon it replaced (but we are smallish). Only scheduled MX to date. MPG (25.? actual) probably suffers from AWD. Visibility out the back is poor, my main complaint. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 00:49 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO. I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market. After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it. The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models): Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMMER Subaru Forester: pricey for what you get, slightly cramped for me Subaru Outback: nice once I folded myself in two to get into it Volkswagen Passat: put me to sleep in 5 minutes Scion Van: kewl but unbearably cheap inside and you can hear every suspension movement every moment you drive Mazda 5: too cramped Volvo xc70: WOW best seats of any car anywhere, decent handling, scary repair stories so I ran away 300e: they are all scary movie time up here now, no decent ones left 300td: only decent one I have seen for months blew up (no joke) the day before I was to go see it Nissan Rogue: too cramped, nice package tho Dodge Caliber: Drove it as a rental for 3 weeks while I shopped. CVT sounds like a roto rooter half the time. Huge inside but I got tired of banging my head every time I got in, really quick. You can start the flames now ;). Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Had a peek at a GM today, and was impressed.
I have to second that 'run don't walk away' advice. I have driven Updlanders as rentals on two occasions for several days at a time, and frankly I hated just about every minute. They are ungainly in routine handling, absolutely dismal in cornering (drive through a tight curve like a 4 x 4 with a plow mounted) and have oddly uncomfortable seats (after an hour at the wheel you will ache in places you cannot imagine). This is more or less just a tarted up Chevy Venture, way out of date in terms of other vans on the market. On top of that, the Uplander has one of the lowest, possibly the lowest, owner satisfaction result of any vehicle in consumer reports surveys, both in terms of reliability and general impressions of the vehicle. And for price, I can tell you that in Canada dealers are knocking brand new base models out the door for under $16k in our $$. IIRC from ads I've seen, 08s with excellent equipment levels are in the $13-14k range. Sorry but I truly think you will hate yourself a few months down the road, if you buy one. Mac on 1/6/09 18:00, R A Bennell at b...@mts.net wrote: I'm not really into vans so take this for what it is worth, but I don't think I would buy an Uplander, no matter how cheap it was. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO. I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market. After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it. The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models): Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMMER Subaru Forester: pricey for what you get, slightly cramped for me Subaru Outback: nice once I folded myself in two to get into it Volkswagen Passat: put me to sleep in 5 minutes Scion Van: kewl but unbearably cheap inside and you can hear every suspension movement every moment you drive Mazda 5: too cramped Volvo xc70: WOW best seats of any car anywhere, decent handling, scary repair stories so I ran away 300e: they are all scary movie time up here now, no decent ones left 300td: only decent one I have seen for months blew up (no joke) the day before I was to go see it Nissan Rogue: too cramped, nice package tho Dodge Caliber: Drove it as a rental for 3 weeks while I shopped. CVT sounds like a roto rooter half the time. Huge inside but I got tired of banging my head every time I got in, really quick. You can start the flames now ;). Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Had a peek at a GM today, and was impressed.
I would expect about 20k - 30k kilometres (I think you multiply by .62 to get back down to miles). Check out www.trader.ca you should find LOTS. Or at least there were when I was shopping a couple of months ago. Mac on 1/7/09 0:51, E M at pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of miles or kms do the Uplanders for $13-14,000 have? Thanks, Ed 2009/1/7 Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca I have to second that 'run don't walk away' advice. I have driven Updlanders as rentals on two occasions for several days at a time, and frankly I hated just about every minute. They are ungainly in routine handling, absolutely dismal in cornering (drive through a tight curve like a 4 x 4 with a plow mounted) and have oddly uncomfortable seats (after an hour at the wheel you will ache in places you cannot imagine). This is more or less just a tarted up Chevy Venture, way out of date in terms of other vans on the market. On top of that, the Uplander has one of the lowest, possibly the lowest, owner satisfaction result of any vehicle in consumer reports surveys, both inW terms of reliability and general impressions of the vehicle. And for price, I can tell you that in Canada dealers are knocking brand new base models out the door for under $16k in our $$. IIRC from ads I've seen, 08s with excellent equipment levels are in the $13-14k range. Sorry but I truly think you will hate yourself a few months down the road, if you buy one. Mac on 1/6/09 18:00, R A Bennell at b...@mts.net wrote: I'm not really into vans so take this for what it is worth, but I don't think I would buy an Uplander, no matter how cheap it was. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090107/581d ea79/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Had a peek at a GM today, and was impressed.
Here is one example I just pulled up off our Trader site: http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=106590adid=7397301nofla sh=Y Note: 42k kms = 26k miles $13,888 CDN = about $12k USD, real world exchange rates Mac on 1/7/09 0:59, E M at pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, this one has 39k on it. Must have been all highway thought, and never seen a mall parking lot. Ed 300E 2009/1/7 Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca I would expect about 20k - 30k kilometres (I think you multiply by .62 to get back down to miles). Check out www.trader.ca you should find LOTS. Or at least there were when I was shopping a couple of months ago. Mac on 1/7/09 0:51, E M at pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of miles or kms do the Uplanders for $13-14,000 have? Thanks, Ed 2009/1/7 Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca I have to second that 'run don't walk away' advice. I have driven Updlanders as rentals on two occasions for several days at a time, and frankly I hated just about every minute. They are ungainly in routine handling, absolutely dismal in cornering (drive through a tight curve like a 4 x 4 with a plow mounted) and have oddly uncomfortable seats (after an hour at the wheel you will ache in places you cannot imagine). This is more or less just a tarted up Chevy Venture, way out of date in terms of other vans on the market. On top of that, the Uplander has one of the lowest, possibly the lowest, owner satisfaction result of any vehicle in consumer reports surveys, both inW terms of reliability and general impressions of the vehicle. And for price, I can tell you that in Canada dealers are knocking brand new base models out the door for under $16k in our $$. IIRC from ads I've seen, 08s with excellent equipment levels are in the $13-14k range. Sorry but I truly think you will hate yourself a few months down the road, if you buy one. Mac on 1/6/09 18:00, R A Bennell at b...@mts.net wrote: I'm not really into vans so take this for what it is worth, but I don't think I would buy an Uplander, no matter how cheap it was. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090107/581d ea79/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090107/c88d 450d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Wow so some places will have an awful surplus of Chevy dealers? Mac on 12/2/08 13:46, Rusty Cullens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are killing Pontiac next. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: do they not make olds anymore? IIRC, the 2004 model year was the end of the line. I'd kind of like to have a 4 cylinder, five speed 2004 Alero, but the 4cyl is kind of rare, and the 5sp are as common as hen's teeth. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dead SD
on 11/30/08 8:56, Rolf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If hes lucky it is probably just bad nailing. When you say ball or tip I assume you mean prechamber ball or glow plug tip? Steve did you use autolite (or other non bosch) glowplugs? I bought Beru last time, IIRC. Steve Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine
on 11/29/08 10:23, Loren Faeth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know enough about these engines to know what may be the cause? It here anything electronic about the valve timing? Is it simply a cam and a timing chain? I had an earlier model van with the 3.3. If the setup is the same or similar on yours, I would be looking to the coil pack before anything else. Also if the weather has been like it has been here, in your neck of the woods (bloody damp for the last two months or so), then try spraying the wires and coil pack exterior with WD-40 before anything else. These engines do tend to end up with very worn plugs, due to the difficulty in changing the rear 3. That probably also means the wires are old too. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dead SD
Had my 1982 300sd towed back home last last week but have not looked at it yet. Was driving when I started to notice a tinny knocking sound, intermittent. A few minutes later it became NOT intermittent. Basically it sounds for all the world like a gas engine with the timing way advanced - preignition 'clatter'. Only when hot under load. I am at a loss. All my brain can come up with is maybe a broken tensioner? (I was actually hearing the chain rattling?). Engine is tight and starts first crank even in extreme cold temps so wear was not on my radar as an issue. Thanks -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
Read the writing on the wall. The CEO of eBay has made it clear he is moving away from the 'flea market' model that built the brand. He wants to push it upscale, into more of a storefront. What you say about the eBay Motors fees says one thing to me: private sellers get lost, dealers come on in and put your feet on the furniture. Of course are you forgetting that your beloved employer, AutoTrader (itself a pretty darn tidy monopoly) gets a healthy chunk of cash from eBay Motors? Or did that little corporate affair burn out and I missed it? Mac on 8/13/08 22:23, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would think if somebody came up with something that compared to ebay, ebay would go out of business. Loren Faeth wrote: yeah, they only want the creeps selling essentially brand new cars. If I was gonna take a chance buying a car on fleabay, it won't be over $5000 ever. I am really not comfortable paying over $1k on fleabagbay. For more than that I will buy from the owner. Some year I might even buy a car from a dealer, but not likely. Better to use craigslist and the crazedlist crawler. Actually, with all the IT talent on here, we should start flea(no)bay.com and run it our way. Let ebay price their greedy selves out of business. I never trust anyone from the SF area anyway. At 08:28 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Guess you don't sell in-expensive cars on eBay! On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So now they changed their prices on selling cars on ebay. Used to be 40 insertion fee, 50 after it sells. Total 90. Now, you get 4 cars a year free insertion, 125 fee after it sells. WOW, thats a deal I tell you.35 price increase. On the 5th car the insertion fee is 20, then 125 after it sells, 75 price increase. Holy shit. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] euro 300SDL
on 8/12/08 19:18, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody ever seen such a beast? I though SDL's were a US only thing. I saw one in a French movie, as a Paris taxi, so they must have had them. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW
As is the corrected information that apparently none of those on board were even airline employees. And in any case, the airlines operated in the UAE have virtually no Arab pilots. Most are European with some from other nations. Incidentally in my quick perusal not one reputable source is repeating the information about the circuit breaker having been pulled. In any case the cost of an Airbus is spare change for them anyway. A friend of mine's brother flies a cargo 747 full-time for some Sheikh or other... who keeps the aircraft in service soley for the purpose of transporting his show horses around the world. He has two other fully equipped private jetliners for his personal travel. The flight crew includes Canadians, Swedes and Germans. Mac on 8/12/08 21:12, LWB250 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No secret about this - it's posted in a number of public forums. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
on 8/8/08 20:38, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 240D has all the power to accelerate that is needed, except for up steep hills with a lot of cargo. I think we can agree to see things differently here... I happen to live in an area with a poorly planned urban expressway, where many of the on-ramps were added long after it was built and hence are stupidly short and at a sufficient uphill grade to make attaining 60 mph in a 240d impossible before hitting traffic. This, combined with the fact that the slow lane of this expressway tends to run at about 70 a lot of the time, was what I was thinking of. If you think Canadians are un-aggressive, passive people, you have not driven on our major highways in central/eastern Canada. I can assure you that highway manners Stateside are a model of civility, when taken against the norm in Southern Ontario and most of Quebec. There was a long-haul semi driver on the old Mercedes list who told me that the absolutely worst experience of his career was the QEW expressway in southern Ontario, during the morning rush hour. Those people are insane. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
on 8/9/08 9:34, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I think its looking old and in the case of my 240D pretty ratty, helped people put things into perspective. Does not work around here, dude, perspective is long gone for anything except GO FAST NOW. Everyone has either a new Japanese rice bomb or a Dodge Ram 4x4 and they drive them with the pedal on the floor as much of the time as they can. It's actually getting pretty hairy, no joke, even pulling away from stop signs I'm getting fed up with guys stuck to my back bumper until the turbo kicks in completely in the SD. It's got much worse in the last two years. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT topic Volvo
on 8/11/08 11:54, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found new complete taillight assemblies on ebay for less than $50 per side. One more thing you should do: remove all the fuses and clean the fusebox contacts and pop in new fuses if you think yours are old and corroded. I am not one to use dialelectric grease on fuse connections on most cars, but given the location of the fuse box in Volvo 240s I think it would be a good idea. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT topic Volvo
on 8/11/08 18:20, Peter Frederick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha, the Volvo auto-destruct tail lamps! That isn't the laugh. The gut-bender is that they made those lousy design taillights for, lessee, at least 11 years and never fixed the basic weak design. This from a country with endless winters. Duh. Gotta give the Swedes the pigheaded never-admit-mistakes engineering award on that one. Of course it pretty much ties with whoever picked the servo climate control system for Mercedes. Ah, Fritzi, Chrsyler could not make it verk, but ve vill install it and make millions of DM off selling ze servoes to ze dumkopf North Amerikaners. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WTF is this?
on 8/11/08 21:15, Loren Faeth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THat is called a Kleb car. Nuf room for t'whole family! To live in or just bathe in? LOL mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
on 8/8/08 9:15, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our summer law clerk is looking at a 1980 240D with 390,000 miles on it. At that sort of mileage, much will depend on what's in the binder-full of receipts. The OM616s have to work pretty hard a lot of the time, in comparison with the OM617s, so at that mileage I would expect to see something major done to the engine. If not then not if but when An awful lot seem to turn up for sale with engine mechanical issues at much lower mileages than that. If the engine is in good shape then a 240d makes a fine around-town car, even in automatic spec. But I echo the note about freeways. Not only merging, but even keeping up with urban freeway traffic patterns isn't a fun proposition. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240
One more thing: rust is the enemy if you are the northeast. If you are located there, no matter what the car looks like from the outside, raise or crawl underneath with something to poke the floor and chassis outriggers with. Particularly prone to driver footwell rot. They are about the equivalent of a w116/early w123 in terms of rust susceptibility, so beware. Mac on 8/6/08 1:11, Steve MacSween at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are basically good cars that by 1990 had been pretty well sorted out (about time, seeing as they made their debut in Europe in late 1974). You will find trim pieces (both interior and exterior) break easily and are generally way inferior to Mercedes. Exterior trim bits are insanely expensive from dealers. Look on eVilBay. Drivetrain is excellent. Not that slow at all, that reputation is a leftover from some of the 1980s models that were imported with an anemic 2.1 liter motor with a weak cam profile. If the car is sluggish you may want to gently put it through some Italian-tuneup workouts, as some Volvo owners are chronic slugs and the motor may be full of gunk. Unfortunately all Bosch injection parts are now very expensive. Other than that the only major OUCH is replacement of the blower motor, which was apparently the first thing bolted to the chassis on the assembly line. Not hard in terms of competence, just requires removal of most of the dash. Not a hard car to work on but you will find things are not quite as well thought out as on a Mercedes. Cheers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240
Well, Tyler, I might observe that there is a difference between giving general advice about a specific Volvo on a Mercedes list and plowing into the depths of Volvo trivia that will only have relevance to the recovering Volvo owners on this list. Rather than start a sh*tfest, I deleted the rest of my reply, as to put it mildly we see things from wildly opposite points on the map, so let's leave the list in peace OK? mac on 8/6/08 12:13, Tyler Backman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having owned every year of Volvo 240 made except 91, 92, and 93 (seriously), I have to disagree with some of what you said. Most of the problems with the early 80s 240s (cheap interiors, falling of trim, bad wiring) didn't exist on the early 1975-1979 models. I would say that those were the best ones made, and the build quality fell from 1980 to 1987, and then started to rise again from 88 to 93, but still never approaching that of the early ones. The blower motor *is* easy to replace if you know the trick. I can do one in about 30 minutes by cutting the side panels on the heater box in half, and reinstalling them in 2 sections, sealing it with heater duct metal tape. Even the hard way, it's easier than a W115 blower. Regarding the cam profile and horsepower on the early model cars- I think it's the opposite of what you said. The later B230 engines had a high torque, low horsepower cam which *feels* more powerful for normal driving, especially with an automatic. The late 70s B21 engines, especially the canadian models had a very hot A and K cams had a very rough idle and were gutless below 4,000 rpm, but pulled VERY strong from 4,000-6500rpm. Many of these cars were without overdrive and had high rear end ratios, and were simply designed to run at high rpms all of the time. I am pretty certain that a B21 with an A or K cam would beat a late 80s 240 equipped with a B230 and an M cam in an actual drag race, especially since the early cars are lighter. Tyler Steve wrote: They are basically good cars that by 1990 had been pretty well sorted out (about time, seeing as they made their debut in Europe in late 1974). You will find trim pieces (both interior and exterior) break easily and are generally way inferior to Mercedes. Exterior trim bits are insanely expensive from dealers. Look on eVilBay. Drivetrain is excellent. Not that slow at all, that reputation is a leftover from some of the 1980s models that were imported with an anemic 2.1 liter motor with a weak cam profile. If the car is sluggish you may want to gently put it through some Italian-tuneup workouts, as some Volvo owners are chronic slugs and the motor may be full of gunk. Unfortunately all Bosch injection parts are now very expensive. Other than that the only major OUCH is replacement of the blower motor, which was apparently the first thing bolted to the chassis on the assembly line. Not hard in terms of competence, just requires removal of most of the dash. Not a hard car to work on but you will find things are not quite as well thought out as on a Mercedes. Cheers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack damper theory
The rack damper bolt is only part of the equation with respect to getting the idle 'right', or as right as it can be. First, the adjustment has to be done with the engine as hot as you can get it, so if you are able to work in a place near a stretch of highway all the better (mine have always run roughest right after a highway drive). This means you have about 10 minutes in which to work, before the engine cools off too much at idle. Second, as these engines age (by which I mean at higher mileages) they seem to each have their own 'sweet spot'. Some run very well at low idle RPMs. Three out of the four I have had did not. You have to adjust the idle speed as well as the rack damper - you may not be able to get a smooth idle at your current idle speed point. The third point is the injectors, but you have seen to that (I can't find your original post now, but I am assuming you had them professionally cleaned). Good luck Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240
They are basically good cars that by 1990 had been pretty well sorted out (about time, seeing as they made their debut in Europe in late 1974). You will find trim pieces (both interior and exterior) break easily and are generally way inferior to Mercedes. Exterior trim bits are insanely expensive from dealers. Look on eVilBay. Drivetrain is excellent. Not that slow at all, that reputation is a leftover from some of the 1980s models that were imported with an anemic 2.1 liter motor with a weak cam profile. If the car is sluggish you may want to gently put it through some Italian-tuneup workouts, as some Volvo owners are chronic slugs and the motor may be full of gunk. Unfortunately all Bosch injection parts are now very expensive. Other than that the only major OUCH is replacement of the blower motor, which was apparently the first thing bolted to the chassis on the assembly line. Not hard in terms of competence, just requires removal of most of the dash. Not a hard car to work on but you will find things are not quite as well thought out as on a Mercedes. Cheers -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s on 8/5/08 14:57, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found a 1990 Volvo 240. It is a 1 owner car with 135,000 miles and perfect shape. I have never had one of these. I think I have asked about Volvos and somebody said there were a couple of models to avoid. The only complaints I seen from reviews online is that they are pretty slow to accelerate. Evidently those that were complaining about that have never driven a Mercedes diesel. After all the 2.3 4 cyl. has 114 HP. Any one know anything about these cars? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack damper theory
I was referring to him taking another crack at adjustment on the vehicle. I personally would not trust anyone to mess with one of these pumps, whether they have a shiny Bosch sign outside their shop or not. Mac on 8/5/08 13:52, Rolf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot all the internal IP adjustments that have to be done as well.. -Rolf Steve MacSween wrote: The rack damper bolt is only part of the equation with respect to getting the idle 'right', or as right as it can be. First, the adjustment has to be done with the engine as hot as you can get it, so if you are able to work in a place near a stretch of highway all the better (mine have always run roughest right after a highway drive). This means you have about 10 minutes in which to work, before the engine cools off too much at idle. Second, as these engines age (by which I mean at higher mileages) they seem to each have their own 'sweet spot'. Some run very well at low idle RPMs. Three out of the four I have had did not. You have to adjust the idle speed as well as the rack damper - you may not be able to get a smooth idle at your current idle speed point. The third point is the injectors, but you have seen to that (I can't find your original post now, but I am assuming you had them professionally cleaned). Good luck Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack damper theory
on 8/5/08 12:32, Steve MacSween at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The third point is the injectors, but you have seen to that (I can't find your original post now, but I am assuming you had them professionally cleaned). I found your original post and it isn't clear to me if you had the injectors cleaned at a shop or not, as you said I cleaned (them). If this means you did a Diesel Purge treatment, it isn't unusual for very dirty injectors to lapse back to their old performance soon afterwards. Consider having them either professionally cleaned at a Bosch injection dealer, OR even better, have them install new nozzles (tips) and guarantee they are within 10 lbs of opening pressure spec. Cheers -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] On welding
Anyone use a stick welder for small jobs? My wrench says they are useless but his two employees disagree. I don't know enough to have an informed opinion... beyond the fact it's half the cost (vs. mig) for something I'll use once a year. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On welding
Ah, well I don't resemble skilled. Thanks Mac on 8/3/08 12:54, Peter T. Arnold at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you are VERY skilled, you'll burn right thru sheet matal as if it was toilet paper. Pete On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:49:33 -0400, you wrote: Anyone use a stick welder for small jobs? My wrench says they are useless but his two employees disagree. I don't know enough to have an informed opinion... beyond the fact it's half the cost (vs. mig) for something I'll use once a year. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One less rust hole - 240D update
on 8/2/08 18:06, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I can weld though, so I cut out all the bad metal which was a surprisingly small amount, I couldn't get my hand through the hole. Then commenced to welding. I'll say that those who say welding is a matter of practice are right just about every tack weld I make now is a good one. I do still blow through badly if I try to run a bead so mostly I just make a series of tacks very close together and then tack over the spaces. It doesn't even look too terrible now. What sort of welder are you using, Curt? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts cars, FREE for the hauling
A friend of mine got threatened with a long gun in such a situation, followed by threats from the local law enforcement to charge him with trespass and attempted theft. For attempting to pick up a vehicle he had a bill of sale for. If it's a hostile situation then YOU get the damn cars out. Sheesh. Mac on 7/31/08 0:19, Craig McCluskey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:07:00 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is an Iowa thing. OK, for the ignorant and uninformed, please explain ... Craig On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:59:04 -0500 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably will have to put up with some hostility at the place they would be picked up from. I'd like you to lie about paying big prices for the honor of hauling them off. What's up with that? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 244 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAILHTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL Sacrilege
on 7/24/08 22:39, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Rentfro wrote: That's cold.. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/car/768886878.html An old SBC and a 3sp are worth $1500??? My question exactly. Plus bolted in a car they are worth 1/2 street anyway. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] these cars end today and are selling cheap
Dealers (I mean new car dealerships) here are bringing up very new, used cars from the U.S. and selling them here in Canada for dirt cheap. For it to reach that stage there must be stockpiles of stuff sitting at the wholesale auctions. Even taking into account the cost of transport and Canadian paperwork, I have seen these selling at 30 percent under comparable Canadian-sourced stock. Mac on 7/21/08 20:57, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, could be. Im not even selling the used parts I used to. Gary Hurst wrote: or it could be the economy, yeah? On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Used to be sunday was the best as I said. I dont think friday would because alot of people are out. Might try monday. I used to do thursday and it seemed OK. Rick Knoble wrote: I wonder if Sunday is not the night to end them anymore? Maybe i should go back to Thursday or something. There are some Ebay analysis sites that you pay for that can tell you what sells for the most money when, but I figure Friday night is payday for most folks, so that is the best time to end an auction to get the most money. If you are wanting to make sure an item sells, IIRC the best day to end the auction is Monday. Since you are dealing with all US time zones on Ebay I figure around 9PM Central time would be the best time on either day to end an auction. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1565 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:36 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1565 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:36 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] So what happens? (was: selling cheap)
Here is what I am wondering about: what happens as lease returns roll back to GMAC, Chrysler Credit, GE Fleet and so on? The leases were written according to the anticipated residuals, which are now presumably in the toilet. Companies must be taking huge hits when these things roll through the auctions. Yet I've not seen anything reported about it. How long before this turns into a new variety of credit crisis? mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a van.
Rolf, if you are in a hurry you had better plan on visiting ebay.de and importing it yourself. If you have time, check craigslist.com and ebay.com on a regular basis. They do turn up now and again, and usually in need of something so they aren't expensive. However, if it isn't located close by, transporting it WILL be expensive. If you are willing to forgo cheap, I can track down the URL of a company located near Montreal, Canada that imports VW and Mercedes campers from Europe. But they are expensive and if my memory of Mercedes model numbers is accurate, newer than what you want. Mac on 7/7/08 13:13, Rolf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Preferably in need of a lot of TLC. Preferably cheap. Preferably in the Southeast. 207/206/307 type vehicles. Looking to make an RV conversion so I can take my ladies camping. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] camper
on 7/8/08 20:51, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-Mercedes-Benz-207D-diesel-camper-van-4-speed -manual_W0QQitemZ300240020421QQihZ020QQcategoryZ50058QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem I must be getting old. That looks really cool. Even with an OM616 (shudder). Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
on 7/7/08 20:59, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 45 MPG 1979 300D Mercedes - $3000 (Keller) Reply to: see below Date: 2008-07-07, 5:34PM CDT The two times I have had MBz diesels for sale (one 300sd, one 240d), both times about fifty percent of people who inquire are horrified when they hear the cars are 'only' good for under 30 mpg. But VWs get way better than that! The concept that a Benz is slightly larger and heavier than a VW does not seem to penetrate the grey matter at all. mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1978 300D
on 7/7/08 12:23, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the mileage a little worse on the non-turbo since you have to have your foot in it all the time? Should I expect 24-26 on the highway? (that is what I got in my 123's). Any other information would be great. If you were used to the turbo assist for highway merging and passing you will have to lower your expectations in that department. That old climate control system really has nothing going for it. Both the servo and the pushbutton panel are substandard pieces of work and while you can pick up the pushbutton panels pretty cheap used, the servo is another story Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`
on 7/7/08 23:35, Allan Streib at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is that Marshall recommended Mobil 1 ATF ... Did he? I recall him being somewhat hesitant to fully endorse it, since MB had not (maybe they now do?). Or maybe he just did not endorse an extended change interval. I can't remember. Marshall endorsed all Mobil 1 products AFAIR, however if he was hesitant to endorse the ATF on occasion it was probably because some people promoted M1 ATF as a miracle cure-all (many inquiries about it come from people with tranny performance problems and M1 is a help, not a fix). Also I have seen some discussion about higher-mileage transmissions developing loud clunks/clanks on downshift, after being switched to M1. I had that experience, and it was disturbingly LOUD (on 3-2). I recently switched back to regular Dex III after having the kickdown cable replaced, and the clanks quieted down in about three months. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?
Well you can rest assured that if he did it or had it done, and there is any evidence to it having been arson, the insurance company will now be on his butt as well. This guy sounds like he is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Mac on 7/6/08 10:37, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, not sure who did what though Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:52:02 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny thing happened just the other day. Guess Jeremy has been out at the crime scene cleaning it up etc. Then the house burned down. Guess somebody must have accidentally set fire to it. You're kidding, right? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 420 SEL $500 perfect body - $500 (Micanopy)
What sort of cycle is that based on? (Urban vs rural) Mac on 7/6/08 9:57, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17-20 is about right for a gas 126 Steve MacSween wrote: H how odd where are all those guys who used to run down the turbodiesel crowd, claiming they were getting 17-20 mpg on their gas 126ers without the hassles of diesels, etc.? Heh heh. You all make funny. Mac on 7/4/08 15:21, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gas prices are going to kill the market for any gas guzzler now. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its simply amazing how cheap those big 126's are going for. Unbelievable really. Those were 60k cars new, top of the line. Should be bringing quite a bit more than that, but I guess the gas thing hurts them quite a bit ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 10:15 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 420 SEL $500 perfect body - $500 (Micanopy)
Well that is more or less what I have heard locally. Is the w126 300sel any better? Mac on 7/6/08 12:02, Tom Hargrave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 420SEL should get an average of 15 MPG in town and 18 MPG on the road. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 420 SEL $500 perfect body - $500 (Micanopy) What sort of cycle is that based on? (Urban vs rural) Mac on 7/6/08 9:57, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17-20 is about right for a gas 126 Steve MacSween wrote: H how odd where are all those guys who used to run down the turbodiesel crowd, claiming they were getting 17-20 mpg on their gas 126ers without the hassles of diesels, etc.? Heh heh. You all make funny. Mac on 7/4/08 15:21, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gas prices are going to kill the market for any gas guzzler now. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its simply amazing how cheap those big 126's are going for. Unbelievable really. Those were 60k cars new, top of the line. Should be bringing quite a bit more than that, but I guess the gas thing hurts them quite a bit ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 10:15 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?
Oh ok I was assuming the house was insured. on 7/6/08 12:05, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Insurance? What insurance? These people do not pay insurance, taxes, or anything like that. Steve MacSween wrote: Well you can rest assured that if he did it or had it done, and there is any evidence to it having been arson, the insurance company will now be on his butt as well. This guy sounds like he is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Mac on 7/6/08 10:37, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, not sure who did what though Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:52:02 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny thing happened just the other day. Guess Jeremy has been out at the crime scene cleaning it up etc. Then the house burned down. Guess somebody must have accidentally set fire to it. You're kidding, right? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart
I am wondering if they have made a bad choice with the new gas powerplant. Until 2008 they were all diesel here in Canada (IIRC) and this is the first I have heard criticisms like this. But even in Canada, with our much higher market penetration for diesels, this was a sticking point for many potential customers apparently. One observation I would make is that more than 80 percent of them seem to be purchased by women, if the gender of the people driving them locally is any indicator. Given how women rate cars, I find it hard to believe that so many would put up with such objectionable characteristics. As for the highway comment, I completely agree. Taking something with an ultra-short wheelbase and tiny motor for any distance on open highway would be pretty adventurous. I have spoken with people who were passengers on highway trips in one and they were not enthusiastic about repeating the experience. While I am inclined to defend the Smart, personally I don't see any gross advantage to purchasing one over, say, a Honda Civic -- except for the urban accessory (or eco-statement) optical value. The Civic is economical, comfortable and infinitely more practical to live with. Mac on 7/6/08 13:44, Ed Booher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current Consumer Reports has a small article about the Smart and for once I agree with them. Slow, horrible ride, herky-jerky autobox, so-so economy, on premium of course. RLE I know it's nicking pits, but Smart's do not have an Automatic transmission. EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`
on 7/6/08 23:04, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most people use dexron type ATF in their older mercedes, probably mostly because that is the stuff you find everywhere that is known simply as automatic transmission fluid. i'm coming across the idea, however, that type F is better stuff to use as it produces crisper shifts and therefore less friction. any thoughts? My mechanic was asked about this a few months ago by the owner of an early 80s vintage BMW 733i who was told it by the tranny shop that did a minor overhaul on his autobox. Apparently it is gaining credence in older European cars, but I am not sure why. I had to use it in my old Volvo 164, with its old-tech (ugh) BorgWarner 35 autobox. Incidentally, the big indy benz shop here specifies Dextron III, not straight Dextron. Is this what you meant? I only use straight Dex in my PS pump. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s / '84 240d parts car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wants to buy a SDL kit?
on 7/6/08 0:00, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hargrave wrote: Engine should not have needed to be pulled at only 167,000 miles. ...unless the head cracked and he wanted to rebuild the whole engine. Well he says he knew nothing about diesels before he went ahead and pulled it apart. Sounds like this attempt to take the diesel world by storm came up short. Anyone want to guess what he FUBARed along the way? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 420 SEL $500 perfect body - $500 (Micanopy)
H how odd where are all those guys who used to run down the turbodiesel crowd, claiming they were getting 17-20 mpg on their gas 126ers without the hassles of diesels, etc.? Heh heh. You all make funny. Mac on 7/4/08 15:21, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gas prices are going to kill the market for any gas guzzler now. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its simply amazing how cheap those big 126's are going for. Unbelievable really. Those were 60k cars new, top of the line. Should be bringing quite a bit more than that, but I guess the gas thing hurts them quite a bit ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 6/30/08 23:06, Bill R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly don't have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to discover that two consenting adults were engaged in a sex act. Speaking for the rest of the world, we're still in shock over that as well. How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the way it is. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 7/1/08 9:32, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the idea of using the Canadian military to police our streets? Thats crazy to the extreme. LOL well its not only crazy but the numbers wouldn't work too well I suspect. We have a very small military and we're already stretched trying to keep Afghanistan from turning into Iraq Two. However we are on a recruitment/expansion campaign to increase our strength so give us a call back in five years or so Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Usually what I would term a chirp on a frequent basis is the early warning that the motor is on the way out. But you say it sounds like a piece of paper in there? That isn't the same sound I am thinking of. I am thinking of something that does sound like a bird chirp. Now early warning is a relative term. Mine has being doing this on and off for 2.5 years and I am still staring at the replacement motor and birdcage (got from Kaleb I think) beside my desk. The answer is yes it's an amateur job but not quite as easy as it may first appear. Mac on 7/1/08 16:41, Bill R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 6/30/08 10:25, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have got to be kidding. Do you also believe that we never landed on the moon? By the same token, back at you: Do YOU believe the Warren Commission Report? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 6/30/08 21:54, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that nation is under attack. no effort is made to either protect the president nor to stop the attackers. the lack of reaction is beyond belief. my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or so?? say it is a fix that isn't going as smoothly as planned and weigh bush's confusion in that light. now he makes sense. Confusion probably because even the date was wrong. No one in their right or wrong mind would put the CIC in front of a grade school with the media staring straight at him, at the very moment things were gonna go hairy. My biggest beef is with the Pentagon attack. You are telling me that a guy who was rated poorly by his instructors, who only had basic maneouvering training in a simulator, was able to bring a jetliner onto the ultra-low-level approach path required to make that hit, without flying it into the ground way short of the target? On the FIRST pass? I submit a Naval aviator with carrier landing qualifications would be sweating jellybeans trying to pull off that approach in something that handles like a jetliner. Also, go back and look at the photos of the Pentagon in the aftermath. When a jetliner goes in horizontally it usually breaks up into fairly predictable pieces on impact. All I ever saw in the Pentagon pics was a big round-ish hole, no severed tail section, no engines or wing parts. Where was the massive burn to the building from all that jet fuel, that stuff that supposedly toppled the Towers? Recall hearing any eyewitness accounts of a jetliner crossing the highway that day almost on the deck? Did they ever release the surveillance camera footage from the gas station that faced the approach path? Okay, Alex, What Is A Missle Hit? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NeoCons (was 9/11)
on 6/29/08 21:22, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am a lifelong republican, but this guy seems absolutely capable of anything. an absolutely amoral maniac who has hoodwinked america's christians into putting him into power. if anyone has poisoned my mind, it's been dubya and his crew. Ah, but there is your problem. Bush thinks he is a republican, but in fact he is a puppet being whose strings are being pulled by rabidly pro-Israeli neo-cons who waited some 20 years for someone to come along stupid enough to allow them to play out their We Own/Run The World fantasy. Forget anything else... exactly HOW does the U.S. plan to PAY for this awful experience? One piece of advice: next time you call on your nation's young people to put themselves in harm's way, in the service of your country, you had better make damn sure the guy at the top got it right. Cause when the boys and girls get back from Iraq there is going to be discontent to rival or exceed Vietnam, and I am old enough to remember how bad that was. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
on 6/29/08 18:59, Alex Chamberlain at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the weakness in Occam's razor, isn't it? Other things being equal, the simplest explanation is the best, but what's your definition of simplest? For me it is easier to accept that the president and much of the federal government are totally incompetent than that shadow forces of some kind within the executive branch planned and carried out that kind of deception on such a massive scale. Okay, someone -- preferably someone who believes the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission Report -- explain WTC 7 to me. And forget using the word fire, unless you have a compelling reason to argue why this was the first steel-framed building in history to COLLAPSE from fire damage, and not even an engulfing fire at that. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
