Re: [MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-13 Thread Dieselhead
Bud's Benz says he has them made for them.  $25 a pair.   That is 
good to know.  The other secret is to remove the screw in the visor, 
then turn the rod so the ball faces down, then the rod can be pulled 
out to release the tab.  I was able to bend the tension tab a bit so 
the screw will keep tension on the ball.


I am still going to do a Catheyesque popcan and shoogoo repair on 
this one.  Afterwards, I will reinforce it with copper wire.   I will 
let y'all know how it works.




I think George Murphy of MBCA sells the clips.  His home-based company
is Performance Analysis but I don't think he has a web presence for it.


He may sell them, but he doesn't make them.  I don't know quite
where ours came from, as Jill was so mightily pissed at the sunvisor
situation that _she_ ordered the things!  About $50, IIRC, probably
off of eBay BIN.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-13 Thread Jim Cathey

I think George Murphy of MBCA sells the clips.  His home-based company
is Performance Analysis but I don't think he has a web presence for it.


He may sell them, but he doesn't make them.  I don't know quite
where ours came from, as Jill was so mightily pissed at the sunvisor
situation that _she_ ordered the things!  About $50, IIRC, probably
off of eBay BIN.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I think George Murphy of MBCA sells the clips.  His home-based company
is Performance Analysis but I don't think he has a web presence for it.

perfanaly...@comcast.net
865-482-9175 Voice or FAX

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Subject: [MBZ] 107 visor

Yeah, it happened,   the dreaded $700 sunvisor problem.  Passenger 
visor on 85 380SL.  The last time the little left tab broke off, I glued
the two pieces together, and supported the joint with copper wire
through tiny holes as reinforcement.  Now the wires pulled out.

I am not going to spend the $700 for a visor, so I thought I'd just take
off the visor.  That is not simple either.  when I unscrew the pivot,
the little plastic piece does not come out, even with  pulling on the
visor.  If I got it out, there is still the problem of the wiring for
the lighted mirror

Anyone ever had this apart?   I think If I pull the center mirror, 
then I can remove the window trim at the top of the windshield. then
maybe have access to the wire.

Is there another screw (or more) hidden by the trim?  Perhaps the 
exposed screw is only for adjusting the tension?   That is another 
problem  the visor is floppy and won't tighten up, and that puts 
stess on the little tab that breaks and costs a $700 visor.   If I 
can get the visor out, I think I can add some shim to tighten the visor.
if it were tight,  maybe the little tab is something you could live
without.

With the parts inflation of the past few years, I suppose a visor is now
$1000 or $1200.  Too bad the clip doesn't screw on the windshield frame
and snap onto the visor like most cars (123).  Then I could just rob a a
clip from a 123, or even spend a couple bucks to buy a new one

If I can fix the pivot, I am thinking about reinforcing the tab with
some pop can aluminum shoo-gooed to it with some additional copper wire
support.

I saw on a forum that Bud;s SL shop supposedly has some fix for this. 
Maybe I should call them tomorrow.  In the meantime, I will be happy if
I can just take it OFF.

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Re: [MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Well, this one is 26 years old, and is brittle.  I'd rather do a 
Catheyesque repair on this one.  I don't have time to wait for a new 
tab.


Best repair I've had is to melt the two pieces back together
using a plastic welding rig.  But it doesn't hold forever,
and it's a bit oogly.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-12 Thread Dieselhead
I planned to call Bud's in the morning.  They are reputed to have 
some repair for it.  That might be the new tab.


Well, this one is 26 years old, and is brittle.  I'd rather do a 
Catheyesque repair on this one.  I don't have time to wait for a new 
tab.



Yeah, it happened, the dreaded $700 sunvisor problem.  Passenger 
visor on 85 380SL.  The last time the little left tab broke off, I 
glued the two pieces together, and supported the joint with copper 
wire through tiny holes as reinforcement.  Now the wires pulled out.


The little male tabs are available new, from some aftermarket supplier.
Expensive for what they are, but they're priced according to what the
market will bear.  I've bought them for the 380.  You have to get the
visor off (which you figured out how to do), loosen the tension screw
a bit, flip the visor 180 degrees from its normal orientation on the
post, which you can't do with the visor on the car, and slide the post
out of the visor.  Thus releasing the broken tab.  Replace new tab,
and reverse to reinstall.  Do NOT mess up that tension screw, and do
NOT force anything!  You Have Been Warned!

The plastic needs no reinforcing, not until it gets old and brittle.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Yeah, it happened, the dreaded $700 sunvisor problem.  Passenger visor 
on 85 380SL.  The last time the little left tab broke off, I glued the 
two pieces together, and supported the joint with copper wire through 
tiny holes as reinforcement.  Now the wires pulled out.


The little male tabs are available new, from some aftermarket supplier.
Expensive for what they are, but they're priced according to what the
market will bear.  I've bought them for the 380.  You have to get the
visor off (which you figured out how to do), loosen the tension screw
a bit, flip the visor 180 degrees from its normal orientation on the
post, which you can't do with the visor on the car, and slide the post
out of the visor.  Thus releasing the broken tab.  Replace new tab,
and reverse to reinstall.  Do NOT mess up that tension screw, and do
NOT force anything!  You Have Been Warned!

The plastic needs no reinforcing, not until it gets old and brittle.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] 107 Visor

2010-04-12 Thread Dieselhead
Well, I got the visor off.  The trick is to yank the mirror off. 
(not easy with the short stub on this model.)  I assisted with a 
screwdriver, so have to clean up the mount and then paint it flat 
black again.


Once the mirror is off, you can take off the base and the screws for 
the trim.  the trim is glued up with black rubber slue that stretches 
and strings better then good Mozzarella cheese.   With the trim loose 
you can unplug the light, then the visor wire, then take off the 
grounding screw for the visor, then remove the two outer screws on 
the visor mount.The smaller screw in the middle of the visor 
mount is the tensioning screw.



Now "all" I have to do is figure out how to add tension to the pivot 
ball when the little screw is out of adjustment, and how to repair 
the visor tab that caused all this mess.


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[MBZ] 107 visor

2010-04-12 Thread Dieselhead
Yeah, it happened,   the dreaded $700 sunvisor problem.  Passenger 
visor on 85 380SL.  The last time the little left tab broke off, I 
glued the two pieces together, and supported the joint with copper 
wire through tiny holes as reinforcement.  Now the wires pulled out.


I am not going to spend the $700 for a visor, so I thought I'd just 
take off the visor.  That is not simple either.  when I unscrew the 
pivot, the little plastic piece does not come out, even with  pulling 
on the visor.  If I got it out, there is still the problem of the 
wiring for the lighted mirror


Anyone ever had this apart?   I think If I pull the center mirror, 
then I can remove the window trim at the top of the windshield. then 
maybe have access to the wire.


Is there another screw (or more) hidden by the trim?  Perhaps the 
exposed screw is only for adjusting the tension?   That is another 
problem  the visor is floppy and won't tighten up, and that puts 
stess on the little tab that breaks and costs a $700 visor.   If I 
can get the visor out, I think I can add some shim to tighten the 
visor.  if it were tight,  maybe the little tab is something you 
could live without.


With the parts inflation of the past few years, I suppose a visor is 
now $1000 or $1200.  Too bad the clip doesn't screw on the windshield 
frame and snap onto the visor like most cars (123).  Then I could 
just rob a a clip from a 123, or even spend a couple bucks to buy a 
new one


If I can fix the pivot, I am thinking about reinforcing the tab with 
some pop can aluminum shoo-gooed to it with some additional copper 
wire support.


I saw on a forum that Bud;s SL shop supposedly has some fix for this. 
Maybe I should call them tomorrow.  In the meantime, I will be happy 
if I can just take it OFF.


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