Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
BMWs are maintenance heavy as a rule. A blast to drive, but break often. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?What about the E Class Diesels of the 00's? ;-) Larry On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
All good cars. The v6 diesels have some problem with either leaking inter cooler lines or turbo oil lines which have to be replaced at a certain interval. I have not had this problem myself though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:03 PM, LarryTvia Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?What about the E Class Diesels of the 00's? ;-) Larry On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Thx! On 8/31/2014 8:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: All good cars. The v6 diesels have some problem with either leaking inter cooler lines or turbo oil lines which have to be replaced at a certain interval. I have not had this problem myself though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:03 PM, LarryTvia Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?What about the E Class Diesels of the 00's? ;-) Larry On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Daughter has an '06 GL320cdi bought new. Her cost of repairs at the dealer since then is huge. She loves it, and can afford the expense, but I wouldn't have it. I think Kaleb bought one, had a lot of expense, and then sold it. The only part that hasn't needed repair is the basic engine and a variety of other usually trouble free parts such as the differential. Her mileage so far is about 150K. Some say any MB after 2006 is okay, but that one isn't IMO. Gerry '83 300D and 240D On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
What kind of repairs has that GL needed? --R On 8/30/14 10:58 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Daughter has an '06 GL320cdi bought new. Her cost of repairs at the dealer since then is huge. She loves it, and can afford the expense, but I wouldn't have it. I think Kaleb bought one, had a lot of expense, and then sold it. The only part that hasn't needed repair is the basic engine and a variety of other usually trouble free parts such as the differential. Her mileage so far is about 150K. Some say any MB after 2006 is okay, but that one isn't IMO. Gerry '83 300D and 240D On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
My sister had a 2011 ML with diesel engine, on a three year lease. During the lease, it had one of the computers fail while sister was driving in six lanes of freeway traffic. Car totally shutdown, no warning. A very dangerous event, and thank God there weren't any collisions or injuries. When it came off lease, her father-in-law purchased it. Twice the fuel filter clogged and shut down the engine (I suspect the tank had a microbial growth bloom going). $300 each time for a tow to the dealer for diagnoses and a new filter installation. Finally the rear main engine seal started leaking, at about 100k miles, not covered by warranty, so he sold it. Mileage was only in the high 20's. Very comfortable and quiet, great to drive, but the quality was lacking. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
The '07 R class sounds like the one my #2 son turned in with chattering tranny. Is it silver/gray? Wilton - Original Message - From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
To: l02tur...@comcast.net; mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:10:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon From: mercedes@okiebenz.com The '07 R class sounds like the one my #2 son turned in with chattering tranny. Is it silver/gray? I think they all were For that matter, it seems like most cars built from about 2000-20xx were silver, black, or if in a fleet, white. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
-- with 276 kmi? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon To: l02tur...@comcast.net; mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:10:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon From: mercedes@okiebenz.com The '07 R class sounds like the one my #2 son turned in with chattering tranny. Is it silver/gray? I think they all were For that matter, it seems like most cars built from about 2000-20xx were silver, black, or if in a fleet, white. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
We have the same dilemma -- the 300 SDL is getting up there in years and miles, so is the 87 300D, and I am not excited about the replacements. The quality is simply not there, after Chrysler got involved Benz seems to have decided to make very expensive disposable cars, with electronic everything. Very annoying, I prefer the longevity of the older ones. New ones end up in the dump about the time I'd be buying them because they need several thousand dollars of electronics to fix stupid problems (i.e. two, not one, $2500 computers to get the f...king brake lights to work.) Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Peter, I have found the W140 to be a pretty robust platform, and relatively cheap to maintain and work on. My 95 S500 coupe is rapidly approaching 275k, and it's running great and has had minimal issues. Parts are readily available and not terribly expensive. I will be adding another W140 to the fleet in the near future, only this time it will be a later model and a sedan. For $5k-$7k you can get a nice late 90s W140 with less than 150k on it that will go another 200k easily. They are comparable if not better than a W126 when it comes to comfort and ride, and the later amenities make them even nicer. I have looked ahead of the W140s, but not liked what I saw. With this in mind I'm sticking to W140s and older. Dan On Aug 30, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We have the same dilemma -- the 300 SDL is getting up there in years and miles, so is the 87 300D, and I am not excited about the replacements. The quality is simply not there, after Chrysler got involved Benz seems to have decided to make very expensive disposable cars, with electronic everything. Very annoying, I prefer the longevity of the older ones. New ones end up in the dump about the time I'd be buying them because they need several thousand dollars of electronics to fix stupid problems (i.e. two, not one, $2500 computers to get the f...king brake lights to work.) Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
