Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-04-02 Thread G Mann
One little non lethal surprise I installed with some great success is a
homemade laser system. The on trigger is motion sensors [Home Depot item]
and the suprise is a set of lasers [dollar store cat toys, cheap, battery
operated, but with a good 150 ft range], and a few small cosmetic mirrors
[the little round ones women like to carry in purse].

When the unsuspecting perp breaches the kill zone and triggers one of the
motion sensors it switches on the laser banks and suddenly there is a maze
of red and green lasers that cut through the night and make the place look
like fort knox in the matirx movie. The whole setup cost me less than $60
and a few hours of free time [nothing good on TV anyway].

Next I want to slave in a recording of the slide action of a pump 12 gage
and a very firm voice that says freeze, now on your knees and lace your
fingers behind your head.
 [or maybe, just maybe, it won't be a recording, you get to decide]
You know, just for fun... right?

Grant...

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I've considered remotely controled quad 20mm Gatlin guns up on the
 widow's/captain's walk, but that may take out the cars, too; maybe, a
 zapper ray gun with very fine, pin-point accuracy.  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that was
 pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
 downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however after
 being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes
 to
 mind that such applications could be useful.

 I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that a
 thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
 would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
 noise makers.

 The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
 scheming.
 In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars
 of
 devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
 re-capture repeat offenders.
 In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of hemp
 rope and solved all those issues locally.
 Gives one the thought, Did the old guys have it right after all?

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

  In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look
 like
 motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
 don't
 look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the
 110
 line like a motion light.

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**
 okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of OK Don
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

 A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
 bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
 thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
 action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and 
 into
  what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
  glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
  interior of both cars.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey  
 ritche...@nc.rr.com
 
  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
   I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
 break
  out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios 
 (especially
 in
  the country).
 
 
 http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0http://hunting-washington.com/**smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
 
 http://hunting-w
 ashington.com/smf/index.php?**topic=90095.0http://ashington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
 
 
 
 
  When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of
  value
  inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD
  ___
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-04-02 Thread WILTON

Yeah, that sounds good!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



One little non lethal surprise I installed with some great success is a
homemade laser system. The on trigger is motion sensors [Home Depot 
item]

and the suprise is a set of lasers [dollar store cat toys, cheap, battery
operated, but with a good 150 ft range], and a few small cosmetic mirrors
[the little round ones women like to carry in purse].

When the unsuspecting perp breaches the kill zone and triggers one of 
the

motion sensors it switches on the laser banks and suddenly there is a maze
of red and green lasers that cut through the night and make the place look
like fort knox in the matirx movie. The whole setup cost me less than $60
and a few hours of free time [nothing good on TV anyway].

Next I want to slave in a recording of the slide action of a pump 12 gage
and a very firm voice that says freeze, now on your knees and lace your
fingers behind your head.
[or maybe, just maybe, it won't be a recording, you get to decide]
You know, just for fun... right?

Grant...

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


I've considered remotely controled quad 20mm Gatlin guns up on the
widow's/captain's walk, but that may take out the cars, too; maybe, a
zapper ray gun with very fine, pin-point accuracy.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


 Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that 
was

pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however 
after

being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes
to
mind that such applications could be useful.

I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that 
a

thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
noise makers.

The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
scheming.
In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars
of
devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
re-capture repeat offenders.
In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of 
hemp

rope and solved all those issues locally.
Gives one the thought, Did the old guys have it right after all?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
wrote:

 In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look

like
motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
don't
look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the
110
line like a motion light.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**
okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a 
three

bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them 
in

action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and 
  

into
 what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces 
 of
 glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of 
 the

 interior of both cars.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey  
ritche...@nc.rr.com

 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
break
 out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios 
(especially
in
 the country).


http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0http://hunting-washington.com/**smf/index.php?topic=90095.0

http://hunting-w
ashington.com/smf/index.php?**topic=90095.0http://ashington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0




 When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing 
 of

 value
 inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD
 ___

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-04-01 Thread WILTON
I've considered remotely controled quad 20mm Gatlin guns up on the 
widow's/captain's walk, but that may take out the cars, too; maybe, a zapper 
ray gun with very fine, pin-point accuracy.  ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that was
pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however after
being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes 
to

mind that such applications could be useful.

I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that a
thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
noise makers.

The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
scheming.
In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars 
of

devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
re-capture repeat offenders.
In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of hemp
rope and solved all those issues locally.
Gives one the thought, Did the old guys have it right after all?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com 
wrote:


In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look 
like

motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
don't
look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the 
110

line like a motion light.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and 
 into

 what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
 glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
 interior of both cars.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey 
 ritche...@nc.rr.com


 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
break
 out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios 
 (especially

in
 the country).


http://hunting-washington.com/**smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
http://hunting-w
ashington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0



 When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of
 value
 inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD
 ___

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-04-01 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Maybe a nice focused horn and a magnetron to give them some warm feelings?

Walt
On Apr 1, 2012 11:15 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I've considered remotely controled quad 20mm Gatlin guns up on the
 widow's/captain's walk, but that may take out the cars, too; maybe, a
 zapper ray gun with very fine, pin-point accuracy.  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that was
 pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
 downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however after
 being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes
 to
 mind that such applications could be useful.

 I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that a
 thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
 would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
 noise makers.

 The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
 scheming.
 In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars
 of
 devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
 re-capture repeat offenders.
 In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of hemp
 rope and solved all those issues locally.
 Gives one the thought, Did the old guys have it right after all?

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

  In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look
 like
 motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
 don't
 look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the
 110
 line like a motion light.

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**
 okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of OK Don
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

 A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
 bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
 thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
 action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and 
 into
  what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
  glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
  interior of both cars.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey  
 ritche...@nc.rr.com
 
  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
   I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
 break
  out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios 
 (especially
 in
  the country).
 
 
 http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0http://hunting-washington.com/**smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
 
 http://hunting-w
 ashington.com/smf/index.php?**topic=90095.0http://ashington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
 
 
 
 
  When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of
  value
  inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD
  ___
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-27 Thread G Mann
Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that was
pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however after
being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes to
mind that such applications could be useful.

I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that a
thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
noise makers.

The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
scheming.
In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars of
devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
re-capture repeat offenders.
In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of hemp
rope and solved all those issues locally.
Gives one the thought, Did the old guys have it right after all?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look like
 motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
 don't
 look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the 110
 line like a motion light.

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of OK Don
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

 A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
 bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
 thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
 action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and into
  what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
  glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
  interior of both cars.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
 
  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
   I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
 break
  out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially
 in
  the country).
 
 
 http://hunting-washington.com/**smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
 http://hunting-w
 ashington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
 
 
 
  When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of
  value
  inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD
  ___
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff
My Dad claimed to have used an old Model A vibrator ignition coil to shock 
people when they would touch the car.

I'm not totally familiar with these older ignition systems, but I assume it 
would work since the car is not grounded but a perp might be, depending on the 
type of shoe they were wearing.

Dan

On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:46 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that was
 pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
 downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however after
 being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes to
 mind that such applications could be useful.
 
 I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that a
 thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
 would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
 noise makers.
 
 The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
 scheming.
 In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars of
 devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
 re-capture repeat offenders.
 In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of hemp
 rope and solved all those issues locally.
 Gives one the thought, Did the old guys have it right after all?
 
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look like
 motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
 don't
 look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the 110
 line like a motion light.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of OK Don
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
 bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
 thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
 action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.
 
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and into
 what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
 glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
 interior of both cars.
 
 Wilton
 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
 I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
 break
 out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially
 in
 the country).
 
 
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 When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of
 value
 inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-27 Thread Craig
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:00:08 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My Dad claimed to have used an old Model A vibrator ignition coil to
 shock people when they would touch the car.
 
 I'm not totally familiar with these older ignition systems, but I
 assume it would work since the car is not grounded but a perp might be,
 depending on the type of shoe they were wearing.

When your Dad was doing things, it was most likely before compounds were
added to make tires conductive and before rubber-soled shoes became
popular. Nowadays, with the tires being conductive (maybe some will
remember the old-time grounding straps that were attached to cars to
bleed off the static electricity that developed on cars) and shoes being
insulating, it won't work as well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-27 Thread John Freer
That was all the rage in the sixties and had one on my 53 Ford. I remember I 
had to have a chain on the ground for it to work. The coil was also adjustable 
so you could set the degree of shock you wanted to provide.

Fun and games at the local drive in especially when the ground was wet!
John

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On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:00:08 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My Dad claimed to have used an old Model A vibrator ignition coil to
 shock people when they would touch the car.
 
 I'm not totally familiar with these older ignition systems, but I
 assume it would work since the car is not grounded but a perp might be,
 depending on the type of shoe they were wearing.
 
 When your Dad was doing things, it was most likely before compounds were
 added to make tires conductive and before rubber-soled shoes became
 popular. Nowadays, with the tires being conductive (maybe some will
 remember the old-time grounding straps that were attached to cars to
 bleed off the static electricity that developed on cars) and shoes being
 insulating, it won't work as well.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread WILTON
Thanks.  Can somebody remind me?  Are the inclusive years for model 126s in 
USA '80 - '91.  'Just trying to make sure somebody doesn't try to sell me a 
trunk lid for a 115.


Wilton

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Wilton,

Sorry to hear about the lowlife ruining both cars.  Too bad you didn't 
greet him/them with Mr C olt's  Model 19 11.


Swift justice tends to decrease such activity.


Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps. 'Thought it was 
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west. SWMBO went out to 
cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both. Black 91 350SDL has 
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
lid; interior of car ransacked. White 87 300D has broken right rear little 
triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel 
at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think 
the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched. 
'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my 
mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in 
the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had 
unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to 
enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried 
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires 
and a locking cable with master lock on it.


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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:
Thanks.  Can somebody remind me?  Are the inclusive years for model 126s 
in USA '80 - '91.  'Just trying to make sure somebody doesn't try to 
sell me a trunk lid for a 115.


Not sure about 1992, but if you get parts from a 1980 they'll be W116 and 1981 
will be W126.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Max
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Hopefully they'll do a neater job next time.

In New York, they're busy training BE artists right now.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/squat_the_heck_PkPnYm4W9CFGWgSg6gpHiL


Acorn Redux?  
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Max wrote:

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/squat_the_heck_PkPnYm4W9CFGWgSg6gpHiL


Acorn Redux?  


That was my first thought too. I worked for ACORN for a couple of days in the 
summer of 1983, and breaking into houses to install squatters was their main 
purpose at the time.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread WILTON

I meant 116.  So 81 is first 126 year in US; I know 91 was last year.
'Just spent hour or so on phone w/ins co. rep.

Wilton

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WILTON wrote:
Thanks.  Can somebody remind me?  Are the inclusive years for model 126s 
in USA '80 - '91.  'Just trying to make sure somebody doesn't try to sell 
me a trunk lid for a 115.


Not sure about 1992, but if you get parts from a 1980 they'll be W116 and 
1981 will be W126.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread G Mann
Could I suggest the installation of a motion sensor tied to a video camera
and bright lights that records?

If you shop around you should be able to put together such a system for not
to much that will record direct to digital disk and a picture says a
thousand words when it comes time for a perp walk to the court house.

The cost will be less than repair of one car, and over the next years you
will get lots of video of yourself walking your dog, but the one time your
night visitor comes back it will all pay off.

Just a thought.
Grant...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:21 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Thanks.  Can somebody remind me?  Are the inclusive years for model 126s
 in USA '80 - '91.  'Just trying to make sure somebody doesn't try to sell
 me a trunk lid for a 115.

 Wilton

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 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 11:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  Wilton,

 Sorry to hear about the lowlife ruining both cars.  Too bad you didn't
 greet him/them with Mr C olt's  Model 19 11.

 Swift justice tends to decrease such activity.


  Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10
 to 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps. 'Thought it was
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west. SWMBO went out to cars
 at 1PM today and found the damages to both. Black 91 350SDL has broken rear
 windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console sliding door
 (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of
 car ransacked. White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular
 window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of
 trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think the SOB
 gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched. 'Don't think
 anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my mobility
 scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in the cars.
  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked either
 of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to
 punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried
 to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires
 and a locking cable with master lock on it.

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Randy Bennell

On 25/03/2012 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 10:30pm.  About that 
time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was neighbor activity at some 
condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 
91 350SDL has broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, three pry marks along 
lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  
'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think 
anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try 
not to leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he 
had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to 
punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and a 
locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton
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Let me suggest a couple of things. First of all, it may be wise to 
invest in car alarms. If the horn starts to blow and the lights to 
flash, the perps may take off before they do a whole lot more harm.
I wonder that you do not have a garage or did I mis-understand. Were the 
vehicles in your garage? If so, then you need the garage alarmed too.
I would not suggest confronting them when the alarm goes off but someone 
else suggested motion lights and video surveillance cameras. 
Fortunately, that sort of thing is becoming very affordable.


I have had my F150 broken into twice in recent years. Once they just 
looked in every cubbyhole and appeared to have taken nothing - but they 
did over $1K damage to the driver's door. That one was when it parked in 
front of my home overnight.
The second time they tried to take the truck. They broke the door lock 
again and then broke the ignition lock but did not get it to go without 
the key with the chip in it. Again, more than $1K in damage but at least 
in that case I did not have to pay the deductible because there was 
evidence that they tried to steal the vehicle. The way the insurance 
works here, if they just break into it and there is no evidence of 
attempted theft of the truck, one must pay the deductible.


They also broke into my younger son's girlfriends car on the street out 
in front of our home. They smashed out the driver's door window and took 
a few cd's and a package of cigarettes. Most likely kids. They will 
break in for a bit of change which most of us seem to dump into cup 
holders etc. Best to make sure nothing of that nature is visible from 
outside the car.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread WILTON
I agree wholeheartedly about alarms, lights, etc.  How do you suppose perp 
could have know that less than a week ago I disconnected alarm on 350SDL 
'cause it was going off occasionally when SWMBO opened door.
Obviously need more sensitive detector for the lights that overlook the 
parking area.


Wilton

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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



On 25/03/2012 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to 
cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has 
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
little triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; 
lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 
'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear 
untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car. 
Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything 
of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after 
he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to 
do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried 
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat 
tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.


Wilton
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Let me suggest a couple of things. First of all, it may be wise to invest 
in car alarms. If the horn starts to blow and the lights to flash, the 
perps may take off before they do a whole lot more harm.
I wonder that you do not have a garage or did I mis-understand. Were the 
vehicles in your garage? If so, then you need the garage alarmed too.
I would not suggest confronting them when the alarm goes off but someone 
else suggested motion lights and video surveillance cameras. Fortunately, 
that sort of thing is becoming very affordable.


I have had my F150 broken into twice in recent years. Once they just 
looked in every cubbyhole and appeared to have taken nothing - but they 
did over $1K damage to the driver's door. That one was when it parked in 
front of my home overnight.
The second time they tried to take the truck. They broke the door lock 
again and then broke the ignition lock but did not get it to go without 
the key with the chip in it. Again, more than $1K in damage but at least 
in that case I did not have to pay the deductible because there was 
evidence that they tried to steal the vehicle. The way the insurance works 
here, if they just break into it and there is no evidence of attempted 
theft of the truck, one must pay the deductible.


They also broke into my younger son's girlfriends car on the street out in 
front of our home. They smashed out the driver's door window and took a 
few cd's and a package of cigarettes. Most likely kids. They will break in 
for a bit of change which most of us seem to dump into cup holders etc. 
Best to make sure nothing of that nature is visible from outside the car.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Randy Bennell
He did not likely know. He just got lucky. I wonder if they are smart 
enough to shake the car first to see if the alarm goes off.


Randy

On 26/03/2012 11:54 AM, WILTON wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly about alarms, lights, etc.  How do you suppose 
perp could have know that less than a week ago I disconnected alarm on 
350SDL 'cause it was going off occasionally when SWMBO opened door.
Obviously need more sensitive detector for the lights that overlook 
the parking area.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



On 25/03/2012 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 
10 to 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  
'Thought it was neighbor activity at some condominiums to my 
west.  SWMBO went out to cars at 1PM today and found the damages to 
both.  Black 91 350SDL has broken rear windshield, broken left 
rear window, broken center console sliding door (it wasn't even 
locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular 
window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at 
rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 'Don't 
think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear 
untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either 
car. Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to 
leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to 
realize that after he had unlocked either of the front doors on both 
cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk 
buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and 
tried to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 
2 flat tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.


Wilton
___



Let me suggest a couple of things. First of all, it may be wise to 
invest in car alarms. If the horn starts to blow and the lights to 
flash, the perps may take off before they do a whole lot more harm.
I wonder that you do not have a garage or did I mis-understand. Were 
the vehicles in your garage? If so, then you need the garage alarmed 
too.
I would not suggest confronting them when the alarm goes off but 
someone else suggested motion lights and video surveillance cameras. 
Fortunately, that sort of thing is becoming very affordable.


I have had my F150 broken into twice in recent years. Once they just 
looked in every cubbyhole and appeared to have taken nothing - but 
they did over $1K damage to the driver's door. That one was when it 
parked in front of my home overnight.
The second time they tried to take the truck. They broke the door 
lock again and then broke the ignition lock but did not get it to go 
without the key with the chip in it. Again, more than $1K in damage 
but at least in that case I did not have to pay the deductible 
because there was evidence that they tried to steal the vehicle. The 
way the insurance works here, if they just break into it and there is 
no evidence of attempted theft of the truck, one must pay the 
deductible.


They also broke into my younger son's girlfriends car on the street 
out in front of our home. They smashed out the driver's door window 
and took a few cd's and a package of cigarettes. Most likely kids. 
They will break in for a bit of change which most of us seem to dump 
into cup holders etc. Best to make sure nothing of that nature is 
visible from outside the car.


Randy





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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I agree that he got lucky. Those people are too stupid for their own good.

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On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

He did not likely know. He just got lucky. I wonder if they are smart enough to 
shake the car first to see if the alarm goes off.

Randy

On 26/03/2012 11:54 AM, WILTON wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly about alarms, lights, etc.  How do you suppose perp 
could have know that less than a week ago I disconnected alarm on 350SDL 'cause 
it was going off occasionally when SWMBO opened door.
Obviously need more sensitive detector for the lights that overlook the parking 
area.

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


On 25/03/2012 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to cars at 
1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has broken rear 
windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console sliding door (it 
wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, three 
pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly 
distorted; interior ransacked. 'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks 
- their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken 
from either car. Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to 
leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize 
that after he had unlocked either of the
 front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the 
trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and a 
locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton
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Let me suggest a couple of things. First of all, it may be wise to invest in 
car alarms. If the horn starts to blow and the lights to flash, the perps may 
take off before they do a whole lot more harm.
I wonder that you do not have a garage or did I mis-understand. Were the 
vehicles in your garage? If so, then you need the garage alarmed too.
I would not suggest confronting them when the alarm goes off but someone else 
suggested motion lights and video surveillance cameras. Fortunately, that sort 
of thing is becoming very affordable.

I have had my F150 broken into twice in recent years. Once they just looked in 
every cubbyhole and appeared to have taken nothing - but they did over $1K 
damage to the driver's door. That one was when it parked in front of my home 
overnight.
The second time they tried to take the truck. They broke the door lock again 
and then broke the ignition lock but did not get it to go without the key with 
the chip in it. Again, more than $1K in damage but at least in that case I did 
not have to pay the deductible because there was evidence that they tried to 
steal the vehicle. The way the insurance works here, if they just break into it 
and there is no evidence of attempted theft of the truck, one must pay the 
deductible.

They also broke into my younger son's girlfriends car on the street out in 
front of our home. They smashed out the driver's door window and took a few 
cd's and a package of cigarettes. Most likely kids. They will break in for a 
bit of change which most of us seem to dump into cup holders etc. Best to make 
sure nothing of that nature is visible from outside the car.

Randy




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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread clay monroe
Yeah,  The intruders visit my cars.  Not in the A-hole break the car.  Just the 
come to find some apple turned into a bong and loaded with used weed, the car 
reeking of hippies.  Forgot to lock the car at night.  Then another morning 
finding the back seat was used as a bed.  My own stupid.

clay


On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:21 PM, WILTON wrote:

 'Don't think I can ever really be made whole.  I've probably always been 
 too naive; too trustful.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
 Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal 
 traps and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you get 
 a good shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim you at, 
 but one that will make you whole.
 
 clay
 
 On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to 
 cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has 
 broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
 sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
 lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little 
 triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel 
 at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 'Don't think 
 the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.  
 'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car. Other than my 
 mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in the 
 cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked 
 either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks 
 was to punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
 take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and 
 a locking cable with master lock on it.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread clay monroe
Our faithless list leader may have a lid

clay

On Mar 25, 2012, at 4:28 PM, WILTON wrote:

 I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger marks and 
 smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing good enough for ID.
 
 BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what should I 
 expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm probably not that lucky.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
 Thats terrible Wilton, sorry to hear the bad news... I read about these
 things in the local paper and always worry about where it might happen next.
 
 At least the guy didn't try to get into your house!  I hope they catch the
 SOB...
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to
 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to
 cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has
 broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console
 sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk
 lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little
 triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel
 at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think
 the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.
 'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my
 mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in the
 cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked
 either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks
 was to punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried
 to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires
 and a locking cable with master lock on it.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Dan Penoff
Look at this as an opportunity - maybe you should consider renting the back 
seat out on a nightly (or hourly) basis?

Dan

On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Yeah,  The intruders visit my cars.  Not in the A-hole break the car.  Just 
 the come to find some apple turned into a bong and loaded with used weed, the 
 car reeking of hippies.  Forgot to lock the car at night.  Then another 
 morning finding the back seat was used as a bed.  My own stupid.
 
 clay
 
 
 On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:21 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 'Don't think I can ever really be made whole.  I've probably always been 
 too naive; too trustful.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
 Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal 
 traps and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you get 
 a good shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim you at, 
 but one that will make you whole.
 
 clay
 
 On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to 
 cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has 
 broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
 sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
 lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
 little triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower 
 panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 'Don't 
 think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear 
 untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car. 
 Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything 
 of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after 
 he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to 
 do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried 
 to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires 
 and a locking cable with master lock on it.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread clay monroe
Low income housing.  Get on the list with HUD.

clay

On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 Look at this as an opportunity - maybe you should consider renting the back 
 seat out on a nightly (or hourly) basis?
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Yeah,  The intruders visit my cars.  Not in the A-hole break the car.  Just 
 the come to find some apple turned into a bong and loaded with used weed, 
 the car reeking of hippies.  Forgot to lock the car at night.  Then another 
 morning finding the back seat was used as a bed.  My own stupid.
 
 clay
 
 
 On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:21 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 'Don't think I can ever really be made whole.  I've probably always been 
 too naive; too trustful.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
 
 
 Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal 
 traps and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you 
 get a good shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim 
 you at, but one that will make you whole.
 
 clay
 
 On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to 
 cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has 
 broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
 sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
 lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
 little triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; 
 lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 
 'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear 
 untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car. 
 Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything 
 of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after 
 he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to 
 do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried 
 to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat 
 tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Rig up a pepper spray or mace to a time delay or a remote, when they get 
involved in their weed or, well, whatever, give them a dose.  You could 
probably sit up a coupla nights and catch them at it then have some 
fun.  Take Mr. Shorty Mossberg along with you, that racking sound will 
get their attention right quick.  But you might have more than weed 
fragrance to clean up


--R

On 3/26/12 2:30 PM, clay monroe wrote:

Yeah,  The intruders visit my cars.  Not in the A-hole break the car.  Just the 
come to find some apple turned into a bong and loaded with used weed, the car 
reeking of hippies.  Forgot to lock the car at night.  Then another morning 
finding the back seat was used as a bed.  My own stupid.

clay




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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably break
out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially in
the country).

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0



When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of value
inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread WILTON
Mechanics used my 350SDL interior for lunch breaks in '96 while awaiting 
repairs after hitting a deer.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


Yeah,  The intruders visit my cars.  Not in the A-hole break the car. 
Just the come to find some apple turned into a bong and loaded with used 
weed, the car reeking of hippies.  Forgot to lock the car at night.  Then 
another morning finding the back seat was used as a bed.  My own stupid.


clay


On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:21 PM, WILTON wrote:

'Don't think I can ever really be made whole.  I've probably always 
been too naive; too trustful.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal 
traps and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you 
get a good shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim 
you at, but one that will make you whole.


clay

On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 
to 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it 
was neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went 
out to cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 
350SDL has broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken 
center console sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely 
bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has 
broken right rear little triangular window, three pry marks along lower 
edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; 
interior ransacked. 'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - 
their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was 
taken from either car. Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I 
try not to leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not 
seem to realize that after he had unlocked either of the front doors on 
both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk 
buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and 
tried to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 
flat tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread clay monroe
Seattle is pretty gun shy now, and with the mess in Florida, would probably be 
a poor place to rack a round or two.  No desire to mace the car either, as that 
would make it hard to drive.   Might set up seat tazers

clay

On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 Rig up a pepper spray or mace to a time delay or a remote, when they get 
 involved in their weed or, well, whatever, give them a dose.  You could 
 probably sit up a coupla nights and catch them at it then have some fun.  
 Take Mr. Shorty Mossberg along with you, that racking sound will get their 
 attention right quick.  But you might have more than weed fragrance to clean 
 up
 
 --R
 
 On 3/26/12 2:30 PM, clay monroe wrote:
 Yeah,  The intruders visit my cars.  Not in the A-hole break the car.  Just 
 the come to find some apple turned into a bong and loaded with used weed, 
 the car reeking of hippies.  Forgot to lock the car at night.  Then another 
 morning finding the back seat was used as a bed.  My own stupid.
 
 clay
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Dieselhead
Now that is an interesting and appropriate use of a toada. 
Especially taking a dump in it.




I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably break
out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially in
the country).

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread WILTON
Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and into 
what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of 
glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the 
interior of both cars.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably break
out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially in
the country).

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0





When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of 
value

inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread OK Don
A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and into
 what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
 glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
 interior of both cars.

 Wilton

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 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably break
 out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially in
 the country).

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Max
Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy. 


No grizzlies to worry about on the continent.  First break in, '79 BMW 528i: 
rear quarter window.  Smallest window and least expensive.  Sympathetic Italian 
friend found a piece of junk yard glass and gave it to me.  Took about half a 
day for me to install the glass.  Second break in, '82 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 
2.2: plastic door handle.  No broken glass, car still weather tight.  Cost 
about $10 and about 30 minutes to replace.  Those Italian thieves were 
considerate and clever, didn't trash out the cars.  For all I know, more 
thieves went through my cars regularly, but when I left them unlocked, the cars 
were whole when I returned.  American thieves are different, I lock my cars 
here.
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
In addition to all the wildlife cameras, there are cameras that look like
motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they don't
look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the 110
line like a motion light.

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On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and into
 what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
 glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
 interior of both cars.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com

 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


  I can't go with the leave it unlocked philosophy.  They'd probably
break
 out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios (especially
in
 the country).


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[MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread WILTON
Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to cars at 
1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has broken rear 
windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console sliding door (it 
wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, three 
pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly 
distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks 
- their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken 
from either car.  Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to 
leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize 
that after he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he 
needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and a 
locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton   
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread buymbparts

Crap, sorry to hear that. It kind of feels like you have raped. These idiots 
drive me crazy.


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Subject: [MBZ] Car breakin

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to cars at 
1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has broken rear 
windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console sliding door (it 
wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, three 
pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly 
distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks 
- their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken 
from either car.  Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to 
leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize 
that after he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he 
needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and a 
locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton   
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Craig
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:58:57 + buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Crap, sorry to hear that. It kind of feels like you have raped. These
 idiots drive me crazy.

Indeed!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread clay monroe
Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal traps 
and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you get a good 
shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim you at, but one 
that will make you whole.

clay

On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to cars 
 at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has broken rear 
 windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console sliding door (it 
 wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
 ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, 
 three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid 
 slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think the SOB gained entry to 
 the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think anything of 
 value was taken from either car.  Other than my mobility scooter in 300D 
 trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did 
 not seem to realize that after he had unlocked either of the front doors on 
 both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
 take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and a 
 locking cable with master lock on it.
 
 Wilton   
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread WILTON
'Don't think I can ever really be made whole.  I've probably always been 
too naive; too trustful.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal 
traps and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you 
get a good shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim 
you at, but one that will make you whole.


clay

On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was 
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to 
cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has 
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
little triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; 
lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 
'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear 
untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car. 
Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything 
of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after 
he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to 
do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried 
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat 
tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread WILTON

What I meant was too trusting of others.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


'Don't think I can ever really be made whole.  I've probably always been 
too naive; too trustful.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


Sorry to hear of your encounter with the human raccoons.  I find lethal 
traps and shot guns salve my distress, but leave a mess.  Make sure you 
get a good shop to do repairs, not the one that the insurance folks aim 
you at, but one that will make you whole.


clay

On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:55 PM, WILTON wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 
to 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it 
was neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out 
to cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has 
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk 
lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
little triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; 
lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked. 
'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear 
untouched.  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car. 
Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave 
anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize 
that after he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all 
he needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried 
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat 
tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
Sorry to hear about this Wilton, unfortunately I am not able to use the 
language on this list to properly describe the lowlifes responsible for 
this crime. Bit of a kick in the guts, you spend most of your life 
protecting your country and some slack arse druggie does this.
Sometimes I think a get tough approach should be used, none of this good 
behaviour bonds, suspended sentence or whatever. Straight to the army 
for a 3 year stint. Jail only seems to teach them how to be better 
criminals and connect with other lowlifes.
Makes you wonder what they where expecting to find in your cars? Spose 
they thought that Merc owners leave a few hundred dollars in the glove 
box, just in case. Gold bars in the boot?


Hendrik
who is annoyed at having to lock everything up


On 26/03/12 08:25, WILTON wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to 10:30pm.  About that 
time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was neighbor activity at some 
condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 
91 350SDL has broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console 
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car 
ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, three pry marks along 
lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  
'Don't think the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.  'Don't think 
anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try 
not to leave anything of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he 
had unlocked either of the front doors o
n both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried to 
take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires and a 
locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton







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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Thats terrible Wilton, sorry to hear the bad news... I read about these
things in the local paper and always worry about where it might happen next.

At least the guy didn't try to get into your house!  I hope they catch the
SOB...

Jaime


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to
 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was
 neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to
 cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has
 broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console
 sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk
 lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little
 triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel
 at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think
 the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.
  'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my
 mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in the
 cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked
 either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks
 was to punch the trunk buttons.
 SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried
 to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires
 and a locking cable with master lock on it.

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Mitch Haley

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:


At least the guy didn't try to get into your house!  I hope they catch the
SOB...


I hope Wilton was prepared to help him/them attain room temperature if he/they 
did enter the house.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread WILTON
I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger marks and 
smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing good enough for ID.


BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what should 
I expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm probably not that 
lucky.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



Thats terrible Wilton, sorry to hear the bad news... I read about these
things in the local paper and always worry about where it might happen 
next.


At least the guy didn't try to get into your house!  I hope they catch the
SOB...

Jaime


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to
cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk
lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
little

triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel
at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't 
think

the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.
 'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my
mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in 
the

cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked
either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter 
trunks

was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat 
tires

and a locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread WILTON
What really bugs me is that I heard the muffled sounds of the impacts or the 
windows breaking, and I did nothing about it - 'thought it was neighbor 
activity on other side of yard.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger marks and 
smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing good enough for 
ID.


BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what 
should I expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm probably not 
that lucky.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin



Thats terrible Wilton, sorry to hear the bad news... I read about these
things in the local paper and always worry about where it might happen 
next.


At least the guy didn't try to get into your house!  I hope they catch 
the

SOB...

Jaime


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 
to

10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to
cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk
lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear 
little
triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower 
panel
at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't 
think

the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.
 'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than 
my
mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in 
the

cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked
either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter 
trunks

was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat 
tires

and a locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Max
Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:58:57 + buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Crap, sorry to hear that. It kind of feels like you have raped. These
 idiots drive me crazy.

Indeed!


Craig

I'll second that.

When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of value 
inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.  
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Russ Williams

I guess you have USAA for your Home Owners Policy. Check with them
and see if the damage to the cars are covered under it.
In early 92 my Grand Voyager was broken into thru the sliding door.
No Comp on vech. but HO policy covered the repairs.

I HATE Slime balls that do stuff like this.

Russ W.

On 3/25/2012 6:33 PM, WILTON wrote:
What really bugs me is that I heard the muffled sounds of the impacts 
or the windows breaking, and I did nothing about it - 'thought it was 
neighbor activity on other side of yard.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger 
marks and smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing 
good enough for ID.


BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what 
should I expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm 
probably not that lucky.


Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Sorry to hear that. Worthless excuses for human life.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:33 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

What really bugs me is that I heard the muffled sounds of the impacts or the 
windows breaking, and I did nothing about it - 'thought it was neighbor 
activity on other side of yard.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger marks and 
smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing good enough for ID.

BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what should I 
expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm probably not that lucky.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


Thats terrible Wilton, sorry to hear the bad news... I read about these
things in the local paper and always worry about where it might happen next.

At least the guy didn't try to get into your house!  I hope they catch the
SOB...

Jaime


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 10 to
10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps.  'Thought it was
neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west.  SWMBO went out to
cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both.  Black 91 350SDL has
broken rear windshield, broken left rear window, broken center console
sliding door (it wasn't even locked), and severely bent/distorted trunk
lid; interior of car ransacked.  White 87 300D has broken right rear little
triangular window, three pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel
at rear of trunk lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think
the SOB gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched.
'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other than my
mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything of value in the
cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that after he had unlocked
either of the front doors on both cars, all he needed to do to enter trunks
was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and tried
to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 2 flat tires
and a locking cable with master lock on it.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Get a dog, even a little yappy one.  A bigger one makes more noise, but 
the little yappy ones will alert you to go have a chat with the 
disadvantaged yutes: Say hello to my leetle fren


There is a junkyard down the road with a coupla good 126s if you want 
me to go procure a lid.  I can probably work the guy over a bit.  One is 
ivory, one is, if I recall, some dark goldish sort of color, brown maybe.


--R

On 3/25/12 7:28 PM, WILTON wrote:
I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger marks 
and smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing good 
enough for ID.


BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what 
should I expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm probably 
not that lucky.


Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread WILTON

Thanks; let me see what's nearby.

Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin


Get a dog, even a little yappy one.  A bigger one makes more noise, but 
the little yappy ones will alert you to go have a chat with the 
disadvantaged yutes: Say hello to my leetle fren


There is a junkyard down the road with a coupla good 126s if you want 
me to go procure a lid.  I can probably work the guy over a bit.  One is 
ivory, one is, if I recall, some dark goldish sort of color, brown maybe.


--R

On 3/25/12 7:28 PM, WILTON wrote:
I hope they catch the SOB, too, but I doubt it; he left finger marks 
and smudges everywhere, but policeman said there was nothing good 
enough for ID.


BTW, anybody know what a good, used 126 trunk lid may cost me - what 
should I expect to pay?  Preferably black, of course, but I'm probably 
not that lucky.


Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Mitch Haley


Hopefully they'll do a neater job next time.

In New York, they're busy training BE artists right now.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/squat_the_heck_PkPnYm4W9CFGWgSg6gpHiL

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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

2012-03-25 Thread Dieselhead

Wilton,

Sorry to hear about the lowlife ruining both cars.  Too bad you 
didn't greet him/them with Mr C olt's  Model 19 11.


Swift justice tends to decrease such activity.


Some sorry SOB broke into both of my cars last night probably about 
10 to 10:30pm.  About that time, I heard three muffled bumps. 
'Thought it was neighbor activity at some condominiums to my west. 
SWMBO went out to cars at 1PM today and found the damages to both. 
Black 91 350SDL has broken rear windshield, broken left rear 
window, broken center console sliding door (it wasn't even locked), 
and severely bent/distorted trunk lid; interior of car ransacked. 
White 87 300D has broken right rear little triangular window, three 
pry marks along lower edge of trunk; lower panel at rear of trunk 
lid slightly distorted; interior ransacked.  'Don't think the SOB 
gained entry to the trunks - their interiors appear untouched. 
'Don't think anything of value was taken from either car.  Other 
than my mobility scooter in 300D trunk, I try not to leave anything 
of value in the cars.  The stupid SOB did not seem to realize that 
after he had unlocked either of the front doors on both cars, all he 
needed to do to enter trunks was to punch the trunk buttons.
SOB also broke into outbuilding/shop; 'took several hand tools and 
tried to take John Deere lawn tractor - probably left it because of 
2 flat tires and a locking cable with master lock on it.


Wilton  
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