Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread Jeff Zedic

Hahaha, too easy!

I mean Lake Ontario!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto



[MBZ] Damn, it's cold

2006-04-06 Thread wilton strickland
Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland was -55F; chill
factor = -90F.  My new USAF 78 Ford crewcab pickup ran continuously for the
2 weeks.  'Had to breathe slowly and carefully not to freeze/hurt throat and
lungs.  Yes, spit froze before hitting grnd.

Wilton




Re: [MBZ] Damn, it's cold

2006-04-06 Thread Sunil Hari
what are  you doing in greenland?!

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 Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland was -55F; chill
 factor = -90F.  My new USAF 78 Ford crewcab pickup ran continuously for
 the
 2 weeks.  'Had to breathe slowly and carefully not to freeze/hurt throat
 and
 lungs.  Yes, spit froze before hitting grnd.

 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond
At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a coughing 
fit.
   
  I was born in Caribou, Maine where the week I was born (Feb 7) it never got 
above -20F. I own 85 acres up there with a little camp on it. My wife and I 
always talk about going up in the winter to go snowmobiling but the camp 
doesn't have any insulation in the roof or floor, at -20F I expect it'd be 
MIGHTY tough to keep warm.
  Oh my sleeping bag is good to -15F and I'm sure if I put it in another bag 
I'd be fine its the time it takes to get up in the night and go pee I'd be 
worried about...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:53:45 -0400
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Kinda like when you have to worry about the oil in your differential 
freezing solid so that it physically won't move even with the engine's 
power, or if you shut the door too hard your paint falls off.  (:
Those are just anecdotes I've heard from people.

Personally, the coldest I've done is way north, NY (Canton area, right 
next to Canada) where it periodically hits 20 below and occasionally 40 
below (F).  It feels cold here at 15 degrees, but at 20-40 below, it 
gets to where that first inhalation walking out the door kinda hurts, 
and you get an instant chill up your pantleg.  And you hope your door 
locks will still move.  (I would have been worried about the engine 
starting were I not using Mobil 1).  Most people just leave their cars 
running at the store when it's that cold.

So I bet I've been through colder than most of the typical U.S., but 
I'm no where's near the worst of it.  (:

Levi



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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread Gary Hurst
buffalo is on a different lake altogether

i grew up in NYC and have spent time in rochester.  rochester is MUCH
colder.  not sure how you figure toronto would be warmer


On 4/5/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right
 at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're
 almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south!

 Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10
 times the snow and cold that we do!

 Jeff Zedic
 Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread lee
On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote:
 At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a
 coughing fit.

Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill, and it 
was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a couple of 
years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit. 

Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you can 
feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost instantly 
(probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and freeze, 
and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back 
indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately condense 
on them and freeze. 

Lee



Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
I thought Rochester NY was known more for its localized lake-effect
blizzards than record-breaking cold.

On 4/6/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's
 usually snow instead of snot.  (:
 I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I
 was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing in my face and I
 was squinting, it was literally freezing my eyelashes together...

 Levi (:

 lee wrote:
  On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a
 coughing fit.
 
 
  Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill,
 and it
  was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a
 couple of
  years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit.
 
  Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you
 can
  feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost
 instantly
  (probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and
 freeze,
  and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back
  indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately
 condense
  on them and freeze.
 
  Lee
 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread Levi Smith
I'd say you are correct, but that Rochester isn't even that well known 
for the lake effect snow.  (not that it doesn't get it, but I don't 
think it holds a candle to the buffalo area).
I live near Corning which is more south of Rochester and my in-laws live 
between Jamestown, NY and Erie, PA which is mostly South of Buffalo. 
There's almost a visible line you cross somewhere around Salamanca, 
where suddenly you're in the REAL snow belt in the winter.  Which 
usually means that even with the traffic, the highway is covered, you 
have a hard time seeing anything but driving snow, and it usually comes 
down about 12 inches at a time.  (as opposed to this side of that line 
where it seems to come down a couple inches at a time).


Levi (:

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I thought Rochester NY was known more for its localized lake-effect
blizzards than record-breaking cold.

On 4/6/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's
usually snow instead of snot.  (:
I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I
was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing in my face and I
was squinting, it was literally freezing my eyelashes together...

Levi (:

lee wrote:


On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote:



At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a
coughing fit.



Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill,


and it


was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a


couple of


years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit.

Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you


can


feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost


instantly


(probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and


freeze,


and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back
indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately


condense


on them and freeze.

Lee

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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread John Berryman


On Apr 6, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Levi Smith wrote:


I'd say you are correct, but that Rochester isn't even that well known
for the lake effect snow.  (not that it doesn't get it, but I don't
think it holds a candle to the buffalo area).
I live near Corning which is more south of Rochester and my in-laws  
live

between Jamestown, NY and Erie, PA which is mostly South of Buffalo.
There's almost a visible line you cross somewhere around Salamanca,
where suddenly you're in the REAL snow belt in the winter.


	The Mohawk valley is a pipeline for snow. I live about 70 miles  
North of Albany and historically we get lower temps and less snow.
	Find Old Forge and Tugg Hill Plateau on a map and see if you can  
figure out why it is the snowmobiling capital of the world


Can we talk about Spring soon, please?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-06 Thread David Brodbeck

John Berryman wrote:
	The Mohawk valley is a pipeline for snow. I live about 70 miles  
North of Albany and historically we get lower temps and less snow.
	Find Old Forge and Tugg Hill Plateau on a map and see if you can  
figure out why it is the snowmobiling capital of the world
  


I went to college in Houghton, Michigan, in the northern part of the 
upper peninsula.  Lake Superior keeps the temperatures from getting as 
low as they do in northern Minnesota, but it also generates a lot of 
lake effect snow.  The worst of it tends to be around Marquette and 
Munising, but the first winter I was up there, Houghton got over 200 inches.



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



[MBZ] Damn, it's cold

2006-04-06 Thread wilton strickland
Sunil, after Grnlnd, I had choice of only B-52 bases; came to Goldsboro, NC,
to fly B-52's.

Wilton




[MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
Not that this is a one-up-manship contest, but I had a buddy that was 
working security at a construction site in the winter in Yellowknife, NWT.


One night whilst making his rounds he found that if he spit, it would 
freeze solid before it hit the ground! Now THAT'S COLD!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD



Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-05 Thread Levi Smith
Kinda like when you have to worry about the oil in your differential 
freezing solid so that it physically won't move even with the engine's 
power, or if you shut the door too hard your paint falls off.  (:

Those are just anecdotes I've heard from people.

Personally, the coldest I've done is way north, NY (Canton area, right 
next to Canada) where it periodically hits 20 below and occasionally 40 
below (F).  It feels cold here at 15 degrees, but at 20-40 below, it 
gets to where that first inhalation walking out the door kinda hurts, 
and you get an instant chill up your pantleg.  And you hope your door 
locks will still move.  (I would have been worried about the engine 
starting were I not using Mobil 1).  Most people just leave their cars 
running at the store when it's that cold.


So I bet I've been through colder than most of the typical U.S., but 
I'm no where's near the worst of it.  (:


Levi


Jeff Zedic wrote:
Not that this is a one-up-manship contest, but I had a buddy that was 
working security at a construction site in the winter in Yellowknife, NWT.


One night whilst making his rounds he found that if he spit, it would 
freeze solid before it hit the ground! Now THAT'S COLD!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD





Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right 
at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're 
almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south!


Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10 
times the snow and cold that we do!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto



Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

2006-04-05 Thread R A Bennell
What do you mean by huge heat source?  Are you referring to the hot air that 
comes out of Queen's Park?

Randy B

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The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right 
at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're 
almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south!

Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10 
times the snow and cold that we do!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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