[MBZ] Exhaust
Slowly making progress on my rear end rebuild... in the process I had to get my exhaust off. Its original and of course rusted together, but somehow still managed to get it off of the car. I've got a few symptoms of needing a new exhaust, but if you guys could verify that they are exhaust so I can justify getting a new one... here's what I've got. --Black soot around beginning of flex pipe... no question thats a leak. --Lots of engine noise at speed. Can let off of accellerator and noise will reduce drastically. Probably related to leak at flex pipe.. --In rear of vehicle (backseat) around 1200rpm or so a VERY loud exhaust bass noise is heard. Is this a sign of a dead muffler? Are there any solutions for less than $200? Rusty's site doesn't seem to have the exhaust prices for my car, but last I checked it was about $400. I have no qualms with aftermarket so long as it won't be a POS system... nor do I have a problem throwing the exhaust in the trunk (of another car ;) and handing it to a muffler shop and asking them to duplicate it. I really don't want to put the exhaust back on the car in one piece if nothing else... do they make something where I could cut the exhaust and have some kind of clamp connection system? Thanks!!! John '79 300SD
[MBZ] Exhaust
My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo
[MBZ] Exhaust question
'83 240D. I've got the chance to buy back my old '83 240D for $300 less than I sold it (Kaleb price at this point). The exhaust I had put on it 5 years ago is now needing replacement. Looks like about $250 from Rusty, but that my question is does that include everything from the header back or do I need another pipe? I presume I'll need a couple donuts to hold it all up too... I'm pretty sure I want the car $500 and it runs. I had put in a radiator, starter and battery (which probably needs replacement again) it also had pretty bad oil leaks when I sold it but at the time I had no place to work and no extra car. Oh and the clearcoat is peeling, now that I've got space I figure to just get spraybomb clearcoat or just spraybomb the whole car... -Curt between -00-00 and -99-99 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust leak
My I'm just full of on-topic questions today... I'm putting together a parts order so I'm trying to think through every problem I've got on 2 different cars... My '83 240D has an exhaust leak. The mufflers and pipes are all new and look fine. The leak appears to be between the pipe coming from the exhaust manifold and the next pipe which dips down under the car. Theres a kind of joint there, I don't know what to call it. Theres a little soot on the firewall and thats the area I'm hearing the leak from. I wonder if theres a gasket in that joint which has gone bad and causing the leak or if its a gasketless joint and I should just take it apart, smear in muffler mender and shove it back together with new bolts. The old bolts are very rusty and no doubt will need to be cut off. Thoughts? Thanks! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] exhaust work
I pulled the exhaust off my W116 tonight. Everything unbolted easily despite the rusty condition of the pipe itself (heavily rusted everywhere, and perforated in several places). Had to use a hammer to tap the junction at the turbo flex fitting but that popped off pretty easily as well. I ordered a new exhaust from Rusty, which arrived a few days ago. Expensive, but really nice stuff. It was shipped without packaging, just some foam wrap zip-tied around the pipe ends. So there are shipping stickers stuck on all over the place, as well as MB inventory stickers, which I'd like to remove before installing. The MB tags peel off pretty easily, but the shipping labels are stuck on pretty well. Does that Goo-Gone stuff work for that sort of thing? I'd like something that won't disolve the paint. Maybe just soak with detergent and use a plastic blade to scrape? Speaking of the paint, there are a few scratches here and there, presumably occurred in shipping and handling. I'd like to fill those in. I'm wondering if I should use hi-temp paint or just something like regular Rustoleum? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
Frosch has developed a loud leak on #6 and #8. PPI showed one of them, but it was tiny and until now not noticeable. Now it just roars. What is estimated book time to swap out the gaskets to get the thing to quiet down? I am on the fence over doing it myself, or having my indy do it. I have had terrible results swinging my own wrench, in that the older bolts tend to shear off or some other horrid outcome prevails. Then I have to have the car towed to indy anyway. Maybe I cut the nuts and run a thread former on the bolt. If I do it my own self, what should my shopping list look like? I could not figure out what all I needed from the CD or clymer manual. Would I do both sides, or can I get by with only the noisy side? I am not interested in letting K'leb have it for $500 clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the body (so will factory replacement, probably!). Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't affect performance. After market parts are mot often junk, won't last two years. You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a muffler with no interior baffles anymore. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Peter Frederick wrote: TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the body (so will factory replacement, probably!). For $615 I think OEM will last long enough to suit me. I simply don't have that kind of money... the OEM at ~400 is still pretty hard to justify. Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't affect performance. After market parts are mot often junk, won't last two years. Thanks for the warning... figured as much, but still had to hope. You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a muffler with no interior baffles anymore. Good to know... hopefully its making a lot of the road noise as well. Thanks!! John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
I can state with assurance that TimeValve really does stand behind their warranty. I purchased a 123 header pipe they had to replace twice under warranty. Great bunch of guys. This was a few years back. On 7/30/05, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Peter Frederick wrote: > > > TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you > > intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the > > body (so will factory replacement, probably!). > > For $615 I think OEM will last long enough to suit me. I simply don't > have that kind of money... the OEM at ~400 is still pretty hard to > justify. > > > Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy > > long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't > > affect performance. After market parts are mot often junk, won't last > > two years. > > Thanks for the warning... figured as much, but still had to hope. > > > You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a > > muffler with no interior baffles anymore. > > Good to know... hopefully its making a lot of the road noise as well. > > Thanks!! > > John > '79 300SD > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
Peter Frederick wrote: TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the body (so will factory replacement, probably!). Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't affect performance. After market parts are mot often junk, won't last two years. You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a muffler with no interior baffles anymore. Rare for diesel exhaust systems (even the better known aftermarket ones - Bosal, ANSA, Eberspaecher) to need replacement in less than 10 years - even in Pgh (where cars often start to rust after 3-4 years) and some last MUCH longer. Stainless makes little sense if you don't plan to own the car in another 10+ years. Bosal makes an aftermarket exhaust system that has a lifetime warranty and they WILL honor the warranty - if you keep the paperwork! They replaced a muffler on one of my cars that failed prematurely after about 6 -7 years without any question. Factory exhaust parts (usually made by Eberspaecher) are a little sturdier than Bosal, but have a far inferior warranty. I have had NO personal experience with TimeValve, but Stu Ritter (ran a shop in Denver for ~30 years, is tech editor for the Star Magazine and an expert on older gasoline Mercedes engines) never found the cost of stainless exhaust to be a good value. He points out that they DO wear out - they just don't rust as soon. The noise in the rear is usually the baffles inside coming loose and making a racket. That's the exhaust system telling you that, "IT'S TIME!" Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
IMHO Stu Ritter is wrong about SS from Timevalve. I found the cost of Timevalve exhaust components for my 1983 300TD to be quite competitive, and and they honor their warranty without any hassle. On 8/2/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Frederick wrote: > > TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you > > intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the > > body (so will factory replacement, probably!). > > > > Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy > > long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't > > affect performance. After market parts are mot often junk, won't last > > two years. > > > > You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a > > muffler with no interior baffles anymore. > > Rare for diesel exhaust systems (even the better known aftermarket ones > - Bosal, ANSA, Eberspaecher) to need replacement in less than 10 years - > even in Pgh (where cars often start to rust after 3-4 years) and some > last MUCH longer. Stainless makes little sense if you don't plan to own > the car in another 10+ years. Bosal makes an aftermarket exhaust system > that has a lifetime warranty and they WILL honor the warranty - if you > keep the paperwork! They replaced a muffler on one of my cars that > failed prematurely after about 6 -7 years without any question. Factory > exhaust parts (usually made by Eberspaecher) are a little sturdier than > Bosal, but have a far inferior warranty. > > I have had NO personal experience with TimeValve, but Stu Ritter (ran a > shop in Denver for ~30 years, is tech editor for the Star Magazine and > an expert on older gasoline Mercedes engines) never found the cost of > stainless exhaust to be a good value. He points out that they DO wear > out - they just don't rust as soon. > > The noise in the rear is usually the baffles inside coming loose and > making a racket. That's the exhaust system telling you that, "IT'S TIME!" > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) > "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 > 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi > Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection > http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm > > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
[MBZ] Exhaust Question
How would I know if my exhaust is getting plugged up? I am just beginning to hear exhaust noise and I would guess something has a hole in it. When it idles it sounds slightly constricted. I do seem to have more black smoke recently than I had before. I just got back from a 900 mile trip where I did a lot of Italian tune-ups on the hills around Branson, MO. You should have seen some of the black clouds. Can I replace the exhaust from the manifold back? How expensive might it be? What would be involved? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
it will definitely be louder. If you plan to keep the car for a long time, check out TimeValve, they make a replacement exhaust from heavy stainless steel, and it may be cheaper than factory parts. $600 isn't bad, for my old 280 is't closer to $1000. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
Best I could do would be $632.00 for Genuine MB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
Rusty wrote: > > Best I could do would be $632.00 for Genuine MB IIRC, Mark was thinking about eliminating the resonator. How much are rear mufflers these days? Most muffler shops would probably want $20 or so to make a resonator delete pipe.
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
$348.00 for rear muffler only -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 4:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Rusty wrote: > > Best I could do would be $632.00 for Genuine MB IIRC, Mark was thinking about eliminating the resonator. How much are rear mufflers these days? Most muffler shops would probably want $20 or so to make a resonator delete pipe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm sure it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
The parts are genuine and the price is good so I will go with you Rusty after I determine if I'm buying both pieces or not. The center muffler rotted at the weld points going in and out of the muffler and at the flange weld where it connects to the front pipe. The rear muffler rusted at all the weld points for the brackets but the muffler itself only has surface rust. I want to prop the muffler up to the front pipe flange and attach it with a $1.99 adapter to hear what the car sounds like without the center muffler. This will determine whether I purchase the rear muffler with or without the center muffler. Might not get to it until the weekend. Prices good until next week? Thanks "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm sure it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
Yes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust The parts are genuine and the price is good so I will go with you Rusty after I determine if I'm buying both pieces or not. The center muffler rotted at the weld points going in and out of the muffler and at the flange weld where it connects to the front pipe. The rear muffler rusted at all the weld points for the brackets but the muffler itself only has surface rust. I want to prop the muffler up to the front pipe flange and attach it with a $1.99 adapter to hear what the car sounds like without the center muffler. This will determine whether I purchase the rear muffler with or without the center muffler. Might not get to it until the weekend. Prices good until next week? Thanks "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm sure it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust hangers
Does anybody know if it’s the donut hangers that are used for 126 exhaust or the square ones? I was thinking square but from looking the up online it looks like maybe donuts are used for the rear and square used in the center? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] exhaust size
Does anybody happen to know what the ID and/or OD size is for the exhaust on a 95 e300? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust system question
Ok, so not long ago I was posting a question about the B2 piston. Well that is fixed, and working great now. In the process of fixing one thing I managed to break something else. In order to get a little extra clearance to work, the rear part of the exhaust system got lowered with the front still staying connected. This got us enough room to work, and turned a small hole in the flex pipe into an unraveling flex pipe. Obviously I can't reuse the old flex pipe, but how does it hold onto the rest of the pipe? Its about a foot long from what I can tell. Is this something that is just hammered into place? It doesn't look like something that you could weld, and there are no clamps on it. Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust question
I have a '80 240D that was wrecked and has the original exhaust and you can have it if you want! Its in Northern CA. Douglas - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust question > '83 240D. > > I've got the chance to buy back my old '83 240D for $300 less than I sold > it (Kaleb price at this point). The exhaust I had put on it 5 years ago is > now needing replacement. Looks like about $250 from Rusty, but that my > question is does that include everything from the header back or do I need > another pipe? I presume I'll need a couple donuts to hold it all up too... > > I'm pretty sure I want the car $500 and it runs. I had put in a radiator, > starter and battery (which probably needs replacement again) it also had > pretty bad oil leaks when I sold it but at the time I had no place to work > and no extra car. > Oh and the clearcoat is peeling, now that I've got space I figure to just > get spraybomb clearcoat or just spraybomb the whole car... > > -Curt > > between -00-00 and -99-99 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust question
Now we just need to come up with an exhaust for a 190D, specifically the middle muffler section. Douglas wrote: > I have a '80 240D that was wrecked and has the original exhaust and you can > have it if you want! Its in Northern CA. > > Douglas > - Original Message - > From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Diesel List" > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:35 AM > Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust question > > >> '83 240D. >> >> I've got the chance to buy back my old '83 240D for $300 less than I sold >> it (Kaleb price at this point). The exhaust I had put on it 5 years ago is >> now needing replacement. Looks like about $250 from Rusty, but that my >> question is does that include everything from the header back or do I need >> another pipe? I presume I'll need a couple donuts to hold it all up too... >> >> I'm pretty sure I want the car $500 and it runs. I had put in a radiator, >> starter and battery (which probably needs replacement again) it also had >> pretty bad oil leaks when I sold it but at the time I had no place to work >> and no extra car. >> Oh and the clearcoat is peeling, now that I've got space I figure to just >> get spraybomb clearcoat or just spraybomb the whole car... >> >> -Curt >> >> between -00-00 and -99-99 >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Curt Raymond wrote: The leak appears to be between the pipe coming from the exhaust manifold and the next pipe which dips down under the car. Theres a kind of joint there, If it has springs on the bolts, it's probably a moving joint with a beveled donut in the middle to seal the two pipes together as they move. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
I don't remember seeing any springs, maybe thats part of the problem... I'm kind of hoping Rusty or Dr. Fatty will chime in with such a thing they'd like to sell me. I've got the rest of an order pretty much ready to go (need to go check my filter stock first though.) -Curt Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:00:50 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4b15a022.8060...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > The leak appears to be between the pipe coming from the exhaust manifold and the next pipe which dips down under the car. Theres a kind of joint there, If it has springs on the bolts, it's probably a moving joint with a beveled donut in the middle to seal the two pipes together as they move. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Curt Raymond wrote: I don't remember seeing any springs, maybe thats part of the problem... Or maybe the flex joint is farther upstream. Looking at the pic from Bosal, I don't see a spring-loaded joint, so I don't know how it works. http://info.rockauto.com/Bosal/Detail2.html?05211751.gif http://info.rockauto.com/Walker/Detail.html?128-953.jpg Here we go, this looks like the donut in a flex joint to me: https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Sure does... Now where do I get one? -Curt Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:34:25 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4b15ee51.1060...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > I don't remember seeing any springs, maybe thats part of the problem... Or maybe the flex joint is farther upstream. Looking at the pic from Bosal, I don't see a spring-loaded joint, so I don't know how it works. http://info.rockauto.com/Bosal/Detail2.html?05211751.gif http://info.rockauto.com/Walker/Detail.html?128-953.jpg Here we go, this looks like the donut in a flex joint to me: https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Curt Raymond wrote: Sure does... Now where do I get one? Well, I suppose you could get one from the dueling parts mongers, or Rockauto will sell you a Bosal for $8 and probably won't charge more than $15 shipping. The Bosal part number is on the diagram, 256-002 http://info.rockauto.com/Bosal/Detail2.html?05211751.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
all of the older MBs I have worked on don't have a donut. I only had the pipe off one 240D in the 123 chassis, and I can't remember if it had a donut. I do recall something needing a donut. Maybe it was a 111/M180 combination. As for the bolts, if they are OEM, start soaking the nuts overnight with a penetrating oil. The OEM bolts and nuts generally will come off, although some fight all the way. I have used OE and soft 5/16 farm store bolts for replacement. The theory with the farm store bolts is that they will rust tight, then 1/4 turn and they will snap off when you need to work on it. I have found that to be less frustrating than fighting the one bolt that is an an awkward position. When the OE nuts come off, I reuse them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Dieselhead wrote: all of the older MBs I have worked on don't have a donut. The info I have shows the 617 non turbo and the 616 needing the donut in the 123 chassis. The turbos probably have a flexy turbo/downpipe connection like my 300SD. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
If you can get the OD of the exhaust pipe at the joint (should be the same as the first section of pipe) and an estimate of the ID of the exhaust manifold, FLAPS should be able to give you one that will work ofr 2-3 dollars. Paying 23 bucks for a bosal makes no sense. Rusty surely can fix you up with one for a few bucks, but the freight will be a killer unless you can throw it in with a regular order. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
That is quite possible. I do remember needing a donut for something. The only 123 or newer engine I have ever had out is the 81 240D, and that was quite a few years ago. I do remember something I worked on needed a donut. I was talking about older than the 123 chassis not needing a donut. THat also meant older than the OM616. All the 124s/126s have been surprisingly reliable. My high mileage OM 603 had the cylindersin near perfect condition at 300K + miles. Because of the precision in the 80s, I never had to change engines or even take loose an exhaust pipe. I have never had a turbo fail either. Dieselhead wrote: all of the older MBs I have worked on don't have a donut. The info I have shows the 617 non turbo and the 616 needing the donut in the 123 chassis. The turbos probably have a flexy turbo/downpipe connection like my 300SD. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
$6 shipping. I've had good luck with Rock auto although I've only ordered from them once... I'll email our feuding parts suppliers and see what they can do since I need some other parts from them anyway. -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:05:37 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4b168241.1040...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Sure does... Now where do I get one? Well, I suppose you could get one from the dueling parts mongers, or Rockauto will sell you a Bosal for $8 and probably won't charge more than $15 shipping. The Bosal part number is on the diagram, 256-002 > http://info.rockauto.com/Bosal/Detail2.html?05211751.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
I'm kind of hoping they'll just break... I was thinking about using stainless bolts but then realized its a $400 car on which assuming there is a donut its probably original so if I replace it I'll never need to replace it again. -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:03:26 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" all of the older MBs I have worked on don't have a donut. I only had the pipe off one 240D in the 123 chassis, and I can't remember if it had a donut. I do recall something needing a donut. Maybe it was a 111/M180 combination. As for the bolts, if they are OEM, start soaking the nuts overnight with a penetrating oil. The OEM bolts and nuts generally will come off, although some fight all the way. I have used OE and soft 5/16 farm store bolts for replacement. The theory with the farm store bolts is that they will rust tight, then 1/4 turn and they will snap off when you need to work on it. I have found that to be less frustrating than fighting the one bolt that is an an awkward position. When the OE nuts come off, I reuse them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Curt. When the down pipe is unbolted, check the lip of the bell at the end of said pipe, sometimes they crack off a chunk. Tight joint, leaky crack. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. At 11:34 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: I'm kind of hoping they'll just break... I was thinking about using stainless bolts but then realized its a $400 car on which assuming there is a donut its probably original so if I replace it I'll never need to replace it again. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak all of the older MBs I have worked on don't have a donut. I only had the pipe off one 240D in the 123 chassis, and I can't remember if it had a donut. I do recall something needing a donut. Maybe it was a 111/M180 combination. As for the bolts, if they are OEM, start soaking the nuts overnight with a penetrating oil. The OEM bolts and nuts generally will come off, although some fight all the way. I have used OE and soft 5/16 farm store bolts for replacement. The theory with the farm store bolts is that they will rust tight, then 1/4 turn and they will snap off when you need to work on it. I have found that to be less frustrating than fighting the one bolt that is an an awkward position. When the OE nuts come off, I reuse them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
WILTON wrote: My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. We're talking here about a ball and socket (donut and flare?) joint in the piping near the engine, so the engine can move independently from the chassis without bending the exhaust pipes. An online parts vendor (not a subscriber to these lists) claims that the 240D uses this in a pipe connection, which I was calling a donut for want of a better term. https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
He is wrong, all 240D's have a flange there. The 300D turbo's have the ball donut. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak WILTON wrote: My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. We're talking here about a ball and socket (donut and flare?) joint in the piping near the engine, so the engine can move independently from the chassis without bending the exhaust pipes. An online parts vendor (not a subscriber to these lists) claims that the 240D uses this in a pipe connection, which I was calling a donut for want of a better term. https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
'Sorry; I was afraid you may have been talking about something different. 'Guess I oughta read a little more detail before mouthing-off. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak WILTON wrote: My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. We're talking here about a ball and socket (donut and flare?) joint in the piping near the engine, so the engine can move independently from the chassis without bending the exhaust pipes. An online parts vendor (not a subscriber to these lists) claims that the 240D uses this in a pipe connection, which I was calling a donut for want of a better term. https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Rusty says it won't fit but I found another site that says it will... Rusty says its just a flange arrangement but when I last checked I couldn't see any movement in the joint like I could when the flange failed on my Ranger. I think I'm going to have to take mine apart and get a good look before I order. That means I'm going to be waiting awhile I can't really afford to be down another car (190D is down with the horrible noisy diff) right now... Hopefully I'll be able to get the parts car's diff into the 190D next week... -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:05:37 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4b168241.1040...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Sure does... Now where do I get one? Well, I suppose you could get one from the dueling parts mongers, or Rockauto will sell you a Bosal for $8 and probably won't charge more than $15 shipping. The Bosal part number is on the diagram, 256-002 > http://info.rockauto.com/Bosal/Detail2.html?05211751.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Yes, suspension donuts, but the discussion was exhaust seal donuts at the end of the manifold. It appears that non turbo 123 Diesels (616 and NA 617) have exhaust seal donuts, while older models did not. 115/617 may have been the first diesel with exhaust donuts, and maybe the 115/616 also did. Earlier Diesels definitely did not have exhaust seal donuts. My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak all of the older MBs I have worked on don't have a donut. I only had the pipe off one 240D in the 123 chassis, and I can't remember if it had a donut. I do recall something needing a donut. Maybe it was a 111/M180 combination. As for the bolts, if they are OEM, start soaking the nuts overnight with a penetrating oil. The OEM bolts and nuts generally will come off, although some fight all the way. I have used OE and soft 5/16 farm store bolts for replacement. The theory with the farm store bolts is that they will rust tight, then 1/4 turn and they will snap off when you need to work on it. I have found that to be less frustrating than fighting the one bolt that is an an awkward position. When the OE nuts come off, I reuse them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
In fact 2 different online parts vendors that don't post on here have shown the bosal donut thing... -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:02:46 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4b16b9d6.8030...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WILTON wrote: > My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. We're talking here about a ball and socket (donut and flare?) joint in the piping near the engine, so the engine can move independently from the chassis without bending the exhaust pipes. An online parts vendor (not a subscriber to these lists) claims that the 240D uses this in a pipe connection, which I was calling a donut for want of a better term. https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Okay, before Rusty bursts something telling us how stupid I am Friday afternoon or Sunday I'll get in there and find out what I've really got. The only way to really know what the problem is is to get in there and look. I could buy a bad donut but I could also buy a cracked pipe or knuckle thing... -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:12:39 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Yes, suspension donuts, but the discussion was exhaust seal donuts at the end of the manifold. It appears that non turbo 123 Diesels (616 and NA 617) have exhaust seal donuts, while older models did not. 115/617 may have been the first diesel with exhaust donuts, and maybe the 115/616 also did. Earlier Diesels definitely did not have exhaust seal donuts. >My 123s (80 240D and 81 300D) had exhaust system suspension donuts. > >Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Curt Raymond wrote: In fact 2 different online parts vendors that don't post on here have shown the bosal donut thing... That's because it's in the picture in Bosal's catalog. (which rockauto reproduced on their site). I can't remember if it was the Bosal or Walker catalog page that said it was for 240D and 77-81 300D. Bimby and Buyeuroparts don't show any gasket or seal ring as far as I can tell. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
Performance shows the part in the diagram but they don't carry it... -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:59:42 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4b16f15e.5070...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > In fact 2 different online parts vendors that don't post on here have shown > the bosal donut thing... That's because it's in the picture in Bosal's catalog. (which rockauto reproduced on their site). I can't remember if it was the Bosal or Walker catalog page that said it was for 240D and 77-81 300D. Bimby and Buyeuroparts don't show any gasket or seal ring as far as I can tell. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust life
> ...So is it rumor or truth that diesel exhausts last longer than gas?.. > Might depend on year of manufacture. My C300's twin pipes are 100% stainless steel from the manifolds to the polished tips. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and my entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall off my car while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as far as replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like to head back to Boston in a less deafening manner. I can go to the local McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better part or order a Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
Goo Gone should get the shipping tag off. Let it soak for 30min or more. Detergent won't touch the glue on it. I'd use Hi Temp paint. Reg Rustoleum will burn off real quick. Russ W. On 9/20/2011 8:51 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I pulled the exhaust off my W116 tonight. Everything unbolted easily despite the rusty condition of the pipe itself (heavily rusted everywhere, and perforated in several places). Had to use a hammer to tap the junction at the turbo flex fitting but that popped off pretty easily as well. I ordered a new exhaust from Rusty, which arrived a few days ago. Expensive, but really nice stuff. It was shipped without packaging, just some foam wrap zip-tied around the pipe ends. So there are shipping stickers stuck on all over the place, as well as MB inventory stickers, which I'd like to remove before installing. The MB tags peel off pretty easily, but the shipping labels are stuck on pretty well. Does that Goo-Gone stuff work for that sort of thing? I'd like something that won't disolve the paint. Maybe just soak with detergent and use a plastic blade to scrape? Speaking of the paint, there are a few scratches here and there, presumably occurred in shipping and handling. I'd like to fill those in. I'm wondering if I should use hi-temp paint or just something like regular Rustoleum? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
Try 3M adhesive remover. It's potent stuff but works a hell of a lot better than goo gone. I would definitely use a high temp paint. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I pulled the exhaust off my W116 tonight. Everything unbolted easily despite the rusty condition of the pipe itself (heavily rusted everywhere, and perforated in several places). Had to use a hammer to tap the junction at the turbo flex fitting but that popped off pretty easily as well. I ordered a new exhaust from Rusty, which arrived a few days ago. Expensive, but really nice stuff. It was shipped without packaging, just some foam wrap zip-tied around the pipe ends. So there are shipping stickers stuck on all over the place, as well as MB inventory stickers, which I'd like to remove before installing. The MB tags peel off pretty easily, but the shipping labels are stuck on pretty well. Does that Goo-Gone stuff work for that sort of thing? I'd like something that won't disolve the paint. Maybe just soak with detergent and use a plastic blade to scrape? Speaking of the paint, there are a few scratches here and there, presumably occurred in shipping and handling. I'd like to fill those in. I'm wondering if I should use hi-temp paint or just something like regular Rustoleum? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
> Try 3M adhesive remover. It's potent stuff but works a hell of a lot better > than goo gone. WD 40 works good for removing stickers and decals. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
the shipping labels are stuck on pretty well. Heat works. Drive it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
+1 for 3M adhesive remover. It works where others fail. Dave SoCal On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Try 3M adhesive remover. It's potent stuff but works a hell of a lot better > than goo gone. I would definitely use a high temp paint. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
WD-40 will help soften stickers for removal. I'd hit the scratches with some Rustoleum. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High & dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Allan Streib To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, September 20, 2011 9:51:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] exhaust work I pulled the exhaust off my W116 tonight. Everything unbolted easily despite the rusty condition of the pipe itself (heavily rusted everywhere, and perforated in several places). Had to use a hammer to tap the junction at the turbo flex fitting but that popped off pretty easily as well. I ordered a new exhaust from Rusty, which arrived a few days ago. Expensive, but really nice stuff. It was shipped without packaging, just some foam wrap zip-tied around the pipe ends. So there are shipping stickers stuck on all over the place, as well as MB inventory stickers, which I'd like to remove before installing. The MB tags peel off pretty easily, but the shipping labels are stuck on pretty well. Does that Goo-Gone stuff work for that sort of thing? I'd like something that won't disolve the paint. Maybe just soak with detergent and use a plastic blade to scrape? Speaking of the paint, there are a few scratches here and there, presumably occurred in shipping and handling. I'd like to fill those in. I'm wondering if I should use hi-temp paint or just something like regular Rustoleum? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust work
I too worried about the stickers and stuff on an exhaust once. Then finally gave up and drove it. Nothing bad happened... -Curt Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:52:26 -0700 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] exhaust work Message-ID: <4456d459-e41e-11e0-9984-000502d9a...@windwireless.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > the shipping labels are stuck on pretty well. Heat works. Drive it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
Remind me, what model and year? Typically a royal pain to get to, but never had a problem with the nuts being frozen or anything. I replaced the left exhaust manifold on the 72 280SE 4.5 and other than the VERY tight quarters, it's not a bad job. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
1974 M117 450SL How long would it take a reasonably skilled person to attempt? I would prefer it not be open for overly long. On Aug 10, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Remind me, what model and year? > > Typically a royal pain to get to, but never had a problem with the nuts being > frozen or anything. I replaced the left exhaust manifold on the 72 280SE 4.5 > and other than the VERY tight quarters, it's not a bad job. > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
Does it have cats? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
It's the '74 SL (???) - should not have CATs. Check to see that one of the studs is not already broken. My '78 had a broken stud when I got it - it was a pain to remove/replace. If it has the original type copper nuts, it's just a job in a tight place, nothing special. If the studs break from trying to remove rusted on steel nuts, it can be a real challenge. I making the assumption that the '74 has studs with nuts, not bolts holding the exhaust manifold on - might not though. On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Does it have cats? > > > Peter > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
If there are no cats, it's not a bad job. Tight space, but with the exhaust off it's just fiddly. Check for a cracked manifold too -- the left side is known for fractures. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
no cat. PnP had a 77 slc I was hoping to rob manifold, but it is wrong type. Mine is one piece, no flex pipes, and has the end nuts on long bolts instead of the close in bolts all along. I think the ends use the copper nuts. I could cut those off, but I fear the rest of it is so old that all that holds it on is oxidized iron on the rest of the bolts clay On Aug 10, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Does it have cats? > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold
I looked extra hard and it looks like steel nuts on the studs. The center spots are close in bolts. I could kroil the crap out of everything. clay On Aug 10, 2013, at 7:19 PM, OK Don wrote: > It's the '74 SL (???) - should not have CATs. Check to see that one of the > studs is not already broken. My '78 had a broken stud when I got it - it > was a pain to remove/replace. If it has the original type copper nuts, it's > just a job in a tight place, nothing special. If the studs break from > trying to remove rusted on steel nuts, it can be a real challenge. > I making the assumption that the '74 has studs with nuts, not bolts holding > the exhaust manifold on - might not though. > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > >> Does it have cats? >> >> >> Peter >> > > > > -- > OK Don > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 > "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." > - Benjamin Franklin 1789 > 2013 F150, 19 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Question
Donald Snook wrote: How would I know if my exhaust is getting plugged up? I am just beginning to hear exhaust noise and I would guess something has a hole in it. When it idles it sounds slightly constricted. I do seem to have more black smoke recently than I had before. I just got back from a 900 mile trip where I did a lot of Italian tune-ups on the hills around Branson, MO. You should have seen some of the black clouds. Can I replace the exhaust from the manifold back? How expensive might it be? What would be involved? WHAT CAR and year? As the internal baffles age, the system gets noisier (well before holes or external leaks appear). Consider Bosal replacement parts (Rusty sells them) if they make them for your year and model. They have a lifetime warranty. Eberspaecher is the OE maker for Mercedes and better quality than Bosal, but the warranty is far inferior. I've used both and both are of GOOD quality. Replace what is bad. I've found no advantage to replacing exhaust parts that aren't worn out yet. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Question
Sorry I forgot that. It is a 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo 247,XXX miles Donald Snook wrote: > How would I know if my exhaust is getting plugged up? I am just > beginning to hear exhaust noise and I would guess something has a hole > in it. When it idles it sounds slightly constricted. I do seem to have > more black smoke recently than I had before. I just got back from a 900 > mile trip where I did a lot of Italian tune-ups on the hills around > Branson, MO. You should have seen some of the black clouds. > > Can I replace the exhaust from the manifold back? How expensive might > it be? What would be involved? WHAT CAR and year? As the internal baffles age, the system gets noisier (well before holes or external leaks appear). Consider Bosal replacement parts (Rusty sells them) if they make them for your year and model. They have a lifetime warranty. Eberspaecher is the OE maker for Mercedes and better quality than Bosal, but the warranty is far inferior. I've used both and both are of GOOD quality. Replace what is bad. I've found no advantage to replacing exhaust parts that aren't worn out yet. Marshall Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust hangers
I took some off the 420SEL I knackered and they were these sorta figure 8 things but I had donuts on the SDs so I don’t know. Whatever works I guess. The newer donuts seem to be crap though versus some I got from Rusty 10-15 years ago for the TD --R Sent from iPhone > On Jul 12, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does anybody know if it’s the donut hangers that are used for 126 exhaust or > the square ones? I was thinking square but from looking the up online it > looks like maybe donuts are used for the rear and square used in the center? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust hangers
I've had 3 sets of FLAP donuts fail in the last 3 yrs... Junk rubber. The figure 8 style has more meat and seem to last better. YMMV. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I took some off the 420SEL I knackered and they were these sorta figure 8 > things but I had donuts on the SDs so I don’t know. Whatever works I guess. > > The newer donuts seem to be crap though versus some I got from Rusty 10-15 > years ago for the TD > > --R > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 12, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Does anybody know if it’s the donut hangers that are used for 126 > exhaust or the square ones? I was thinking square but from looking the up > online it looks like maybe donuts are used for the rear and square used in > the center? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust hangers
FLAPS donuts are rebranded yuro chinee crap. You can still get good ones from the CC. G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I've had 3 sets of FLAP donuts fail in the last 3 yrs... Junk rubber. The figure 8 style has more meat and seem to last better. YMMV. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes< mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust header pipe
Anybody happen to know how long these are supposed to last? MG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust size
Expensive, if you need the catalytic converter. Front pipes or rear? From foggy memory, OD of the front pipes was 50mm. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 6, 2018 4:44:22 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >Does anybody happen to know what the ID and/or OD size is for the >exhaust on a 95 e300? > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >http://www.avg.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust size
The pipe is cracked and breaking loose where it goes into the rear muffler. I welded it up half assed once, and it broke loose again. I welded it again but I figure it will break loose again. I am going to pull it down again and I need to get a connector to connect it together so I have something to hold it together better. I will measure it I guess by I figured somebody might know the size. On 1/6/2018 3:54 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Expensive, if you need the catalytic converter. Front pipes or rear? From foggy memory, OD of the front pipes was 50mm. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust size
Heh. My 95 E300D still has a leak on both ends of the flex that the PO put in place of the catalytic converter. Oldest son doesn't seem to mind, so the urgency to repair is pretty much non-existent. -D > On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > The pipe is cracked and breaking loose where it goes into the rear muffler. > I welded it up half assed once, and it broke loose again. I welded it again > but I figure it will break loose again. I am going to pull it down again and > I need to get a connector to connect it together so I have something to hold > it together better. I will measure it I guess by I figured somebody might > know the size. > > > On 1/6/2018 3:54 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >> Expensive, if you need the catalytic converter. Front pipes or rear? From >> foggy memory, OD of the front pipes was 50mm. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust size
It is some weird custom mercedes diameter. There should be a sticky thread on superturbodiesel.com. On Jan 6, 2018 2:44 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Does anybody happen to know what the ID and/or OD size is for the exhaust on a 95 e300? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exhaust size
Take a piece of the exhaust pipe to any muffler shop. They will use their multi tool pipe bender, which has and expander / shrinker dies. They will be able to take a standard size "american pipe" and adjust the ID to make a slip fit over the existing pipe. Works, unless your a "Mercedes purist" and demand stock parts only.. On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It is some weird custom mercedes diameter. There should be a sticky thread > on superturbodiesel.com. > > On Jan 6, 2018 2:44 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Does anybody happen to know what the ID and/or OD size is for the exhaust > on a 95 e300? > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust fell down!
The exhaust on the cheap 123 I bought had rope holding the muffler up. I did not know that. I noticed when I was about 5 miles from the car sounded louder. This morning I went to car wash and when I pulled out the muffler dropped. It was still connected somewhere. But, it definitely sounds like it is louder up by the engine. So, i don’t know if I will need everything all the way back or just part. I have it secured now. But, it’s definitely loud! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system question
> Is this something that is just hammered into place? It doesn't look > like > something that you could weld, and there are no clamps on it. I think there are supposed to be clamps. I've yet to have to deal with one, however. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system question
I didn't see clamps at all on this part. The part that broke is right above where it makes the bend to go to the back of the car. On 10/31/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is this something that is just hammered into place? It doesn't look > > like > > something that you could weld, and there are no clamps on it. > > I think there are supposed to be clamps. I've yet to have > to deal with one, however. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system question
Ok, so I really do need to get this back on the road. Has anybody experienced a similar break in the exhaust system? My thinking is that I need to find a similar flex pipe that I can clamp into place. Or should I just bite the bullet and have a shop weld in a length of flex pipe that is the appropriate size? I guess ideally I should learn to weld, and do this myself. On 10/31/07, Chris Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't see clamps at all on this part. The part that broke is right > above where it makes the bend to go to the back of the car. > > On 10/31/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Is this something that is just hammered into place? It doesn't look > > > like > > > something that you could weld, and there are no clamps on it. > > > > I think there are supposed to be clamps. I've yet to have > > to deal with one, however. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system question
I bought the new section of pipe from Rusty when I found that it was cracked in the 300D 2.5. It is a welded into one piece pipe - on the 602 engine anyway. On 11/2/07, Chris Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, so I really do need to get this back on the road. Has anybody > experienced a similar break in the exhaust system? My thinking is that I > need to find a similar flex pipe that I can clamp into place. Or should I > just bite the bullet and have a shop weld in a length of flex pipe that is > the > appropriate size? I guess ideally I should learn to weld, and do this myself. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It looks like the same kind of thing on the 617 as well, but like I said as far as budget goes this is not in the plan. Especially after I just got the B2 piston working. On 11/2/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I bought the new section of pipe from Rusty when I found that it was > cracked in the 300D 2.5. It is a welded into one piece pipe - on the > 602 engine anyway. > > On 11/2/07, Chris Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, so I really do need to get this back on the road. Has anybody > > experienced a similar break in the exhaust system? My thinking is that > I > > need to find a similar flex pipe that I can clamp into place. Or should > I > > just bite the bullet and have a shop weld in a length of flex pipe that > is > > the > > appropriate size? I guess ideally I should learn to weld, and do this > myself. > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Autozone and/or Advance Auto has two sizes of flex pipe in (4 ft?) lengths. Providing one will fit, you may be able to clamp or double clamp it in place after cutting it to the proper length. I've used it on U.S. cars and found that it's fairly long lasting. Gerry - Original Message - From: "Chris Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ok, so I really do need to get this back on the road. Has anybody > experienced a similar break in the exhaust system? My thinking is that I > need to find a similar flex pipe that I can clamp into place. Or should I > just bite the bullet and have a shop weld in a length of flex pipe that is > the > appropriate size? I guess ideally I should learn to weld, and do this > myself. > > > On 10/31/07, Chris Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I didn't see clamps at all on this part. The part that broke is right >> above where it makes the bend to go to the back of the car. >> >> On 10/31/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > Is this something that is just hammered into place? It doesn't look >> > > like >> > > something that you could weld, and there are no clamps on it. >> > >> > I think there are supposed to be clamps. I've yet to have >> > to deal with one, however. >> > >> > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> It looks like the same kind of thing on the 617 as well, but like I > said as > far as budget goes this is not in the plan. Especially after I just > got the > B2 piston working. Is the right pipe from Rusty really all that expensive? Just asking. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wish I could say no, but for right now, yes. Although I guess its about what I was looking at paying carx to weld in a new section of flexpipe. I could probably bolt the new section in. Lots of PB blaster or something is in order so that I don't destroy something I need and end up needing to replace more stuff, I'm sure. This car has just gotten really frustratinig of late. Chris On 11/3/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It looks like the same kind of thing on the 617 as well, but like I > > said as > > far as budget goes this is not in the plan. Especially after I just > > got the > > B2 piston working. > > Is the right pipe from Rusty really all that expensive? > Just asking. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> This car has just gotten really frustrating of late. Crap flows in cycles, or so it seems. Me? I'd vote for DIY, but I'm biased that way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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DIY was the original idea when I bought the car. Figuring that since there was no computer I would be able to do a lot of the owrk on it myself. Of course my background is a bit more limited in working on cars or anything else, but I figured there's no better time to learn than now. I also am thinking I have some glow plug related problems, all of the sudden. Just in time for winter, of course. On 11/3/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This car has just gotten really frustrating of late. > > Crap flows in cycles, or so it seems. Me? I'd vote > for DIY, but I'm biased that way. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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"Chris Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I also am thinking I have some glow plug related problems, all of > the sudden. Just in time for winter, of course. Haven't really been following this thread, but if starting just became difficult when the mornings got colder, could be you need to adjust valve clearances. Could be a glow plug issue too of course, and best to rule that out first -- does the dash lamp illuminate properly? Try unplugging the connector at the relay and check resistance of each plug -- they should all be the same, and about 0.6 ohms I believe. This can vary a bit depending on your meter; most cheap meters are not very accurate at that low in the range. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, the glow plug light just stopped lighting up, basicly as soon as we got the car put back together from the B2. The battery was low from sitting for a good part of the year, and I have not been driving it much due to the exhaust issues. I'm going to try and find a meter ASAP. I was checking out how to check them on the dieselgiant web site. On 11/5/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Chris Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I also am thinking I have some glow plug related problems, all of > > the sudden. Just in time for winter, of course. > > Haven't really been following this thread, but if starting just became > difficult when the mornings got colder, could be you need to adjust > valve clearances. Could be a glow plug issue too of course, and best > to rule that out first -- does the dash lamp illuminate properly? Try > unplugging the connector at the relay and check resistance of each > plug -- they should all be the same, and about 0.6 ohms I believe. > This can vary a bit depending on your meter; most cheap meters are not > very accurate at that low in the range. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Chris Lane wrote: > > No, the glow plug light just stopped lighting up, basicly as soon as we got > the car put back together from the B2. I had a 8 year old compact battery in the 300SD when the glow light quit working. Replaced it with a new group 49 and it started working normally again. It seems you need a good voltage supply to keep the relay from thinking something is wrong. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So make sure I have a full charge on the battery, and then look into the rest of the system. I do hear the relay click when they would shut off. So its possible that the battery not being fully charged is causing the problems. Which I was thinking could be part of it. Of course new glow plugs and relay seems like it should be easier for me to do than weld the exhaust back together. On 11/5/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris Lane wrote: > > > > No, the glow plug light just stopped lighting up, basicly as soon as we > got > > the car put back together from the B2. > > I had a 8 year old compact battery in the 300SD when the glow light quit > working. Replaced it with a new group 49 and it started working normally > again. It seems you need a good voltage supply to keep the relay from > thinking something is wrong. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Get the better part for the lower price, I would not put stainless on a diesel for the reasons discussed. What is the cost difference? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. Peter On May 9, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and my entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall off my car while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as far as replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like to head back to Boston in a less deafening manner. I can go to the local McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better part or order a Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The thing is my exhaust ultimately did rust so clearly they fail in diesels as well. The pipe rotted on this w123 240D in a similar location by the front pipe where my 220D exhaust rotted. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Max wrote: Get the better part for the lower price, I would not put stainless on a diesel for the reasons discussed. What is the cost difference? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So is timevalve more money than OEM Rusty? Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. Peter On May 9, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and my entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall off my car while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as far as replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like to head back to Boston in a less deafening manner. I can go to the local McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better part or order a Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Peter Frederick wrote: OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. What about Bosal? Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Damn that's cheap. Does rusty sell bosal? Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. What about Bosal? Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM. Peter On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. What about Bosal? Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Yup checked his website..under $300 indeed. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM. Peter On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. What about Bosal? Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Time Valve has a lifetime warranty and they really do honor it. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM. > > Peter > > > On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > >> Peter Frederick wrote: >>> >>> OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. >>> Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. >> >> >> What about Bosal? >> >> Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under >> $300. >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.
Haha. Not hard to honor something that'll never break or rust! The thing is that the Rusty option (pun not intended) is so cheap! To be honest, I bought a TV exhaust years ago for a 450SEL and it didn't fit right. I was living in CT at the time so I just drove to their factory in Plainfield and they cut and re-welded it on the spot- sort of a custom job for free. Now they are not local so I can't do that. I probably just got a bad part as I'm not aware of other fitment issues with TV. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 10:50 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Time Valve has a lifetime warranty and they really do honor it. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM. Peter On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive. Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last. What about Bosal? Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
