Re: [MBZ] GL Adventure
It seemed to be a bit of tail wag dog although I thought I had the load distributed ok. Not too bad but I could feel some instability. The ML doesn’t feel that way when I tow cars with it so maybe the longer wheelbase or something. I don’t know if it has a built-in brake controller or not but I did notice the light on the brake box on the trailer was on when I got home (was getting dark) so maybe it does have one in the system. I’ll have to look into that more. That would be good. I’ll look at the brake rotors and see if they were worn down any. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Feb 22, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How did it tow? Was is pretty stable? Do you have a brake controller on it? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 22, 2023, at 8:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Drove the ML500 up to Charlotte today pulling the trailer. Hooked the >> trailer to the 270kmi GL450 and loaded the ML then drove home. No drama, >> seemed to run pretty well, mostly, and the computer said 12.5mpg at 71mph. >> There was some juddering at 1500 and 2500 rpm, trying to think if it’s the >> intake flap issue or the tranny needs new fluid (probably does anyway). Both >> need to be done so that’s on the list with the usual “new” car stuff. >> >> It was a nice ride and the AC BLEW ICE COLD!!! I think I’m going to like >> it. >> >> I looked up the PO, it was a 70yo woman from Winston Salem who has a place >> in Murder Beach so I’m guessing that’s where the miles came from, running to >> and fro. >> >> Gas was a bit higher in NC but it was running on fumes so I filled it up as >> I left. >> > > >> >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL starter
Replacing the 300 TD starter in my w123 wagon was also highly labor intensive On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 5:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > These newer (and by newer most anything newer than 20yr) cars were not > designed to be maintained economically. Maybe as long as the warranty. > Unlike 123s, 126s, even 124s and maybe 210s though those cars can be a > pain too. I guess when bean counters took over from engineers things > started going to hell > > --FT > > On 12/24/22 4:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > I have been in the middle of replacing the starter on the wife’s GL320. > It’s a swine if a job. No room at all to get to anything. Anyway finally > got it out and it’s amazing how small and light weight it is. About half > the side of a 617 starter. Anyway, here is a video testing the old one and > new one for comparison. > > > > https://youtu.be/cFA5wqoaZkU > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL starter
These newer (and by newer most anything newer than 20yr) cars were not designed to be maintained economically. Maybe as long as the warranty. Unlike 123s, 126s, even 124s and maybe 210s though those cars can be a pain too. I guess when bean counters took over from engineers things started going to hell --FT On 12/24/22 4:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I have been in the middle of replacing the starter on the wife’s GL320. It’s a swine if a job. No room at all to get to anything. Anyway finally got it out and it’s amazing how small and light weight it is. About half the side of a 617 starter. Anyway, here is a video testing the old one and new one for comparison. https://youtu.be/cFA5wqoaZkU Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL starter
I have been in the middle of replacing the starter on the wife’s GL320. It’s a swine if a job. No room at all to get to anything. Anyway finally got it out and it’s amazing how small and light weight it is. About half the side of a 617 starter. Anyway, here is a video testing the old one and new one for comparison. https://youtu.be/cFA5wqoaZkU Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL AC
Hot fluid goes to the input of both X-valves. Cold gas comes back. If the line's not cold coming back, fluid's not flowing. A clogged X-valve is one of the more likely causes. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL AC
Not really sure, the roof vents don’t blow, but I’m not sure if they are supposed to or not. Seems I read somewhere they don’t blow unless needed. I will be looking into it. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does the rear get cold? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Aug 13, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yea that’s what I’m wondering >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 13, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> If the expansion valve is causing that line to get cold then the other one >>> won’t until it hits the rear expansion valve? >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> > On Aug 13, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: I finished up the GL compressor replacement and am happy to report it’s blowing ice cold. Once question though. A smaller line branches off from the big low side line off the compressor before both enter the firewall. The big one goes to expansion valve and the smaller one that branches off goes to the rear unit I assume. The big line gets very cold but the smaller one does not seem to get cold at all. Should this line also ne cold up front or would it stay ambient temp at that point and get cold closer to the rear unit? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL AC
Does the rear get cold? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 13, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea that’s what I’m wondering > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 13, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> If the expansion valve is causing that line to get cold then the other one >> won’t until it hits the rear expansion valve? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Aug 13, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I finished up the GL compressor replacement and am happy to report it’s >>> blowing ice cold. Once question though. A smaller line branches off from >>> the big low side line off the compressor before both enter the firewall. >>> The big one goes to expansion valve and the smaller one that branches off >>> goes to the rear unit I assume. The big line gets very cold but the smaller >>> one does not seem to get cold at all. Should this line also ne cold up >>> front or would it stay ambient temp at that point and get cold closer to >>> the rear unit? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL AC
Yea that’s what I’m wondering Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > If the expansion valve is causing that line to get cold then the other one > won’t until it hits the rear expansion valve? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Aug 13, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I finished up the GL compressor replacement and am happy to report it’s >> blowing ice cold. Once question though. A smaller line branches off from the >> big low side line off the compressor before both enter the firewall. The big >> one goes to expansion valve and the smaller one that branches off goes to >> the rear unit I assume. The big line gets very cold but the smaller one does >> not seem to get cold at all. Should this line also ne cold up front or would >> it stay ambient temp at that point and get cold closer to the rear unit? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL AC
If the expansion valve is causing that line to get cold then the other one won’t until it hits the rear expansion valve? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 13, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I finished up the GL compressor replacement and am happy to report it’s > blowing ice cold. Once question though. A smaller line branches off from the > big low side line off the compressor before both enter the firewall. The big > one goes to expansion valve and the smaller one that branches off goes to the > rear unit I assume. The big line gets very cold but the smaller one does not > seem to get cold at all. Should this line also ne cold up front or would it > stay ambient temp at that point and get cold closer to the rear unit? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL AC
I finished up the GL compressor replacement and am happy to report it’s blowing ice cold. Once question though. A smaller line branches off from the big low side line off the compressor before both enter the firewall. The big one goes to expansion valve and the smaller one that branches off goes to the rear unit I assume. The big line gets very cold but the smaller one does not seem to get cold at all. Should this line also ne cold up front or would it stay ambient temp at that point and get cold closer to the rear unit? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL Expansion valve
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 20:54:26 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > I ended up double nutting it and removed the stud and installed on the > new one. Yes, that works -- if they didn't use Loctite red ... I have a small air regulator I am trying to remove the inlet fitting on and it isn't coming off. > I do not think I am going to replace the rear one as from what I can > tell they never go bad and usually never get replaced anyway. Plus it > appears it requires a ton of disassembly to get to it. That makes sense. May it work well for you. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL Expansion valve
I ended up double nutting it and removed the stud and installed on the new one. I do not think I am going to replace the rear one as from what I can tell they never go bad and usually never get replaced anyway. Plus it appears it requires a ton of disassembly to get to it. On 8/6/2022 12:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 11:37:42 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Getting ready to finish up the AC job on the GL by replacing the front expansion valve (still not sure if I should replace the rear one or not, or where it is even located). I just realized the replacement expansion valve I got in the Rock Auto kit does not have the required stud on the front of it for the line clamp plate or whatever you call it. It appears to have a hole tapped for it. All the other expansion valves I have seen for sale have the stud. WTF? Do I attempt to transfer the stud from the old valve to the new one? Otherwise I am at a dead stop until I get a different valve, or just leave the current valve in there. I would replace the expansion valve. For the stud, get a screw of the right threads and length, cut off the head, put some blue Loctite on it, and thread it into the new expansion valve. I would also replace the rear expansion valve. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL Expansion valve
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 11:37:42 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Getting ready to finish up the AC job on the GL by replacing the front > expansion valve (still not sure if I should replace the rear one or > not, or where it is even located). I just realized the replacement > expansion valve I got in the Rock Auto kit does not have the required > stud on the front of it for the line clamp plate or whatever you call > it. It appears to have a hole tapped for it. All the other expansion > valves I have seen for sale have the stud. WTF? Do I attempt to > transfer the stud from the old valve to the new one? Otherwise I am at > a dead stop until I get a different valve, or just leave the current > valve in there. I would replace the expansion valve. For the stud, get a screw of the right threads and length, cut off the head, put some blue Loctite on it, and thread it into the new expansion valve. I would also replace the rear expansion valve. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL Expansion valve
Getting ready to finish up the AC job on the GL by replacing the front expansion valve (still not sure if I should replace the rear one or not, or where it is even located). I just realized the replacement expansion valve I got in the Rock Auto kit does not have the required stud on the front of it for the line clamp plate or whatever you call it. It appears to have a hole tapped for it. All the other expansion valves I have seen for sale have the stud. WTF? Do I attempt to transfer the stud from the old valve to the new one? Otherwise I am at a dead stop until I get a different valve, or just leave the current valve in there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
You could also try this - it has worked well for me --- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ALBZK8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 10:49 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > In that case, modify my previous post to say... Find a plastic welder... > I could not determine from the pic what it was.. sorry. > Plastic can be successfully welded and that could save you both time and > money. Since I learned how to weld plastic, I find I'm repairing all kinds > of things that would be expensive scrap. > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 5:24 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > It’s plastic. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Time to find a skilled TIG welder and make a new best friend. > > > If it broke, it can be welded. If a piece is missing, make a new one > > from a > > > blank plate and weld it on. Grind the weld smooth and spray it with > black > > > paint... put it back on and "Bobs yer Unkle" > > > > > >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 8:24 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Wow. You could buy a whole car for that almost > > >> > > >> --FT > > >> Sent from iFōn > > >> > > >>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> No where close. Nearest one that has anything is 5 plus hours away > and > > >> $1k and up. > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>> > > On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Any in a junkyard anywhere? > > > > --FT > > Sent from iFōn > > > > >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever > > >> you call it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It > > >> appears the entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just > > the > > >> bumper cover. There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to > > >> tomorrow to see what they say. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
In that case, modify my previous post to say... Find a plastic welder... I could not determine from the pic what it was.. sorry. Plastic can be successfully welded and that could save you both time and money. Since I learned how to weld plastic, I find I'm repairing all kinds of things that would be expensive scrap. On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 5:24 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s plastic. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Time to find a skilled TIG welder and make a new best friend. > > If it broke, it can be welded. If a piece is missing, make a new one > from a > > blank plate and weld it on. Grind the weld smooth and spray it with black > > paint... put it back on and "Bobs yer Unkle" > > > >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 8:24 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Wow. You could buy a whole car for that almost > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iFōn > >> > >>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> No where close. Nearest one that has anything is 5 plus hours away and > >> $1k and up. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Any in a junkyard anywhere? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever > >> you call it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It > >> appears the entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just > the > >> bumper cover. There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to > >> tomorrow to see what they say. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
It’s plastic. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Time to find a skilled TIG welder and make a new best friend. > If it broke, it can be welded. If a piece is missing, make a new one from a > blank plate and weld it on. Grind the weld smooth and spray it with black > paint... put it back on and "Bobs yer Unkle" > >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 8:24 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Wow. You could buy a whole car for that almost >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> >>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> No where close. Nearest one that has anything is 5 plus hours away and >> $1k and up. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Any in a junkyard anywhere? --FT Sent from iFōn >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever >> you call it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It >> appears the entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just the >> bumper cover. There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to >> tomorrow to see what they say. > >>> > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
Time to find a skilled TIG welder and make a new best friend. If it broke, it can be welded. If a piece is missing, make a new one from a blank plate and weld it on. Grind the weld smooth and spray it with black paint... put it back on and "Bobs yer Unkle" On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 8:24 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Wow. You could buy a whole car for that almost > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > No where close. Nearest one that has anything is 5 plus hours away and > $1k and up. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Any in a junkyard anywhere? > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iFōn > >> > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever > you call it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It > appears the entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just the > bumper cover. There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to > tomorrow to see what they say. > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
Wow. You could buy a whole car for that almost --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > No where close. Nearest one that has anything is 5 plus hours away and $1k > and up. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Any in a junkyard anywhere? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever you >>> call it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It appears >>> the entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just the bumper >>> cover. There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to tomorrow to >>> see what they say. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
No where close. Nearest one that has anything is 5 plus hours away and $1k and up. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Any in a junkyard anywhere? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever you call >> it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It appears the >> entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just the bumper cover. >> There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to tomorrow to see >> what they say. >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL bumper
Any in a junkyard anywhere? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever you call > it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It appears the > entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just the bumper cover. > There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to tomorrow to see what > they say. > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL bumper
Pulled the bumper off the GL today. The bumper support or whatever you call it is broken at the mounting point on the passenger side. It appears the entire assembly would need to be replaced rather than just the bumper cover. There is a bumper place close by I’m going to take it to tomorrow to see what they say. Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL towing/LED lights
I don’t know how that system works but on the 163 the light controller I installed senses the vehicle lights then powers the trailer lights independently with separate power. It doesn’t care what is being powered. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Apr 24, 2022, at 9:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have always heard and read that the 164 does NOT like LED trailer lights > and either they wont work or give errors on the cluster. You have to install > resistors in the harness or something. This Uhaul trailer had LED lights and > it worked fine with no error messages. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL towing/LED lights
I have always heard and read that the 164 does NOT like LED trailer lights and either they wont work or give errors on the cluster. You have to install resistors in the harness or something. This Uhaul trailer had LED lights and it worked fine with no error messages. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement
Swapping a bumper is no big deal. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Find a local shop that does good quality work, and get it fixed. Just get it > done. You have a hundred other vehicles that need attention. > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: February 28, 2022 1:59 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement > > Looking like it the other guy's insurance will be paying. Will get > estimates but I am sure it being a X164 it will be expensive. Goal will > be to get check from insurance then fix it myself for 1/4 the price. > Not seeing a lot of used white bumpers in car-part, but see rock auto > has cheap primered bumper covers. This one has parktronic and headlight > washers. They have bumpers with one or the other for $120, but with > both is $450. Thinking about deleting the washers, does anybody really > care about that? Then would require painting at a body shop (or maybe I > buy a spray gun and do it myself). > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement
Find a local shop that does good quality work, and get it fixed. Just get it done. You have a hundred other vehicles that need attention. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 28, 2022 1:59 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement Looking like it the other guy's insurance will be paying. Will get estimates but I am sure it being a X164 it will be expensive. Goal will be to get check from insurance then fix it myself for 1/4 the price. Not seeing a lot of used white bumpers in car-part, but see rock auto has cheap primered bumper covers. This one has parktronic and headlight washers. They have bumpers with one or the other for $120, but with both is $450. Thinking about deleting the washers, does anybody really care about that? Then would require painting at a body shop (or maybe I buy a spray gun and do it myself). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement
I've always had a good experience with State Farm, though always as a policy holder, I don't know how they are dealing with someone who isn't their customer. On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, at 3:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Any tips for dealing with these insurance jerks? It is state farm BTW. > > On 2/28/2022 1:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Looking like it the other guy's insurance will be paying. Will get >> estimates but I am sure it being a X164 it will be expensive. Goal >> will be to get check from insurance then fix it myself for 1/4 the >> price. Not seeing a lot of used white bumpers in car-part, but see >> rock auto has cheap primered bumper covers. This one has parktronic >> and headlight washers. They have bumpers with one or the other for >> $120, but with both is $450. Thinking about deleting the washers, >> does anybody really care about that? Then would require painting at a >> body shop (or maybe I buy a spray gun and do it myself). >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement
Great birthday gift to herself, eh? AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Any tips for dealing with these insurance jerks? It is state farm BTW. > >> On 2/28/2022 1:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Looking like it the other guy's insurance will be paying. Will get >> estimates but I am sure it being a X164 it will be expensive. Goal will be >> to get check from insurance then fix it myself for 1/4 the price. Not >> seeing a lot of used white bumpers in car-part, but see rock auto has cheap >> primered bumper covers. This one has parktronic and headlight washers. They >> have bumpers with one or the other for $120, but with both is $450. >> Thinking about deleting the washers, does anybody really care about that? >> Then would require painting at a body shop (or maybe I buy a spray gun and >> do it myself). >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL front bumper replacement
Any tips for dealing with these insurance jerks? It is state farm BTW. On 2/28/2022 1:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Looking like it the other guy's insurance will be paying. Will get estimates but I am sure it being a X164 it will be expensive. Goal will be to get check from insurance then fix it myself for 1/4 the price. Not seeing a lot of used white bumpers in car-part, but see rock auto has cheap primered bumper covers. This one has parktronic and headlight washers. They have bumpers with one or the other for $120, but with both is $450. Thinking about deleting the washers, does anybody really care about that? Then would require painting at a body shop (or maybe I buy a spray gun and do it myself). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL front bumper replacement
Looking like it the other guy's insurance will be paying. Will get estimates but I am sure it being a X164 it will be expensive. Goal will be to get check from insurance then fix it myself for 1/4 the price. Not seeing a lot of used white bumpers in car-part, but see rock auto has cheap primered bumper covers. This one has parktronic and headlight washers. They have bumpers with one or the other for $120, but with both is $450. Thinking about deleting the washers, does anybody really care about that? Then would require painting at a body shop (or maybe I buy a spray gun and do it myself). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
Knock it off, guys. Last warning. LM From: Mercedes on behalf of Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 6:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dimitri Seretakis Subject: Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity Yup LGB. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > LGB > > --FT > >> On 2/6/22 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Wife tends to drive home and it not occur to her to stop at sams while in >> town to get cheap fuel. Diesel in our podunk town tends to be a lot more >> expensive. Anyway had to pickup the kid and low fuel light was on. Drove the >> 30 miles and filed up. Pic attached. I think we might have been running on >> fumes. Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the >> heck is the deal with that? >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
The answer lies in our politics. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2022, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Why has crude jumped up so much? > >> On 2/6/2022 4:22 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: >>> On 2022-02-06 13:59, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in >>> the last week. What the heck is the deal with that? >> >> Crude went from 60s in December to 70s in January to 90s last Friday. >> Was $87 Thursday morning, touched 93 Friday. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
I love it! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2022, at 5:34 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-02-06 17:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Why has crude jumped up so much? > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
Yup LGB. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > LGB > > --FT > >> On 2/6/22 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Wife tends to drive home and it not occur to her to stop at sams while in >> town to get cheap fuel. Diesel in our podunk town tends to be a lot more >> expensive. Anyway had to pickup the kid and low fuel light was on. Drove the >> 30 miles and filed up. Pic attached. I think we might have been running on >> fumes. Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the >> heck is the deal with that? >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
On 2022-02-06 17:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Not appropriate. No politics, please. Only loosely political. Mostly social commentary, just posting a pic of what some people are saying at the pumps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
Not appropriate. No politics, please. -D/ListMom From: Mercedes on behalf of mitch--- via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 5:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity On 2022-02-06 17:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Why has crude jumped up so much? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
My kids did that constantly. So annoying to go out to the car, needing to get somewhere, and find the "low fuel" light on. Worse because the closest fuel station is also one of the most expensive in the area. The usual justifcation was "well the computer says 20 miles until empty" so there was enough gas to get back to the station. I told them when they were stranded with a burned-out fuel pump they were on the hook for the towing and the repairs. Fortunately (?) it never happened. On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Wife tends to drive home and it not occur to her to stop at sams while in > town to get cheap fuel. Diesel in our podunk town tends to be a lot more > expensive. Anyway had to pickup the kid and low fuel light was on. Drove the > 30 miles and filed up. Pic attached. I think we might have been running on > fumes. Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the > heck is the deal with that? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
On 2022-02-06 17:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Why has crude jumped up so much? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
Why has crude jumped up so much? On 2/6/2022 4:22 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: On 2022-02-06 13:59, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the heck is the deal with that? Crude went from 60s in December to 70s in January to 90s last Friday. Was $87 Thursday morning, touched 93 Friday. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
On 2022-02-06 13:59, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the heck is the deal with that? Crude went from 60s in December to 70s in January to 90s last Friday. Was $87 Thursday morning, touched 93 Friday. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
LGB --FT On 2/6/22 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Wife tends to drive home and it not occur to her to stop at sams while in town to get cheap fuel. Diesel in our podunk town tends to be a lot more expensive. Anyway had to pickup the kid and low fuel light was on. Drove the 30 miles and filed up. Pic attached. I think we might have been running on fumes. Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the heck is the deal with that? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity
Wife tends to drive home and it not occur to her to stop at sams while in town to get cheap fuel. Diesel in our podunk town tends to be a lot more expensive. Anyway had to pickup the kid and low fuel light was on. Drove the 30 miles and filed up. Pic attached. I think we might have been running on fumes. Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the heck is the deal with that? Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
That means he’ll only have to go out to the back 40 and dig under the pile to see it. -D > On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's why you write it on the car near where you measure it. > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 6:14 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> But what happens in a year or two when he goes looking for them? >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, >> so >>> if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a >> reference >>> number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car >>> and truck tomorrow - take my own advice! >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type (fuel) > engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? > >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I >> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old >> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It >> seemed >> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it >> should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife >> left >> and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 >> keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and >> started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it >> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle >> it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go >> ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I >> can't >> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking >> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it >> up >> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't >> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be >> a >> whore of a job. Jono? >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
That's why you write it on the car near where you measure it. On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 6:14 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But what happens in a year or two when he goes looking for them? > > -D > > > > On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, > so > > if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a > reference > > number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car > > and truck tomorrow - take my own advice! > > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn > >> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the > >> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type > >> (fuel) > >>> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? > >>> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I > had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old > battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It > seemed > to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it > should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife > left > and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 > keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and > started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it > turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle > it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go > ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I > can't > really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking > at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it > up > on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't > have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be > a > whore of a job. Jono? > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> OK Don > >>> > >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >>> > >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > >> Wernher > >>> Von Braun > >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
But what happens in a year or two when he goes looking for them? -D > On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, so > if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a reference > number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car > and truck tomorrow - take my own advice! > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn >> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the >> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type >> (fuel) >>> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It seemed to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife left and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I can't really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be a whore of a job. Jono? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
Good advice Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2022, at 6:07 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, so > if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a reference > number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car > and truck tomorrow - take my own advice! > >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn >> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the >> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type >> (fuel) >>> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It seemed to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife left and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I can't really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be a whore of a job. Jono? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, so if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a reference number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car and truck tomorrow - take my own advice! On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn > over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the > e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type > (fuel) > > engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? > > > >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I > >> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old > >> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It seemed > >> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it > >> should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife left > >> and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 > >> keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and > >> started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it > >> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle > >> it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go > >> ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I can't > >> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking > >> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up > >> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't > >> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be a > >> whore of a job. Jono? > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type (fuel) > engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? > >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I >> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old >> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It seemed >> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it >> should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife left >> and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 >> keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and >> started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it >> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle >> it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go >> ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I can't >> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking >> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up >> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't >> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be a >> whore of a job. Jono? >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type (fuel) engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark? On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I > had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old > battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It seemed > to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it > should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife left > and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 > keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and > started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it > turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle > it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go > ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I can't > really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking > at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up > on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't > have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be a > whore of a job. Jono? > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
On my Volvo XC90 the battery is in the very back of the car, under the floor
just in front of the tailgate. Even with a brand new battery I think the
starter sounds slower than what I am used to in other cars. I think part of it
is that with only 12V and a 10 foot distance (maybe more, allowing for routing
of the cable) you're just going to have some losses unless your cabling is the
size of a garden hose.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> It would basically be impossible. The starter would have to be removed
> and readjusted (pointed down) to get at the connections on the starter
> to check or remove. Battery is inside the car so I guess you could do
> it with a super long cable assuming you could somehow get to the starter
> connections.
>
> On 1/21/2022 4:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess the difficuly being that he says "I can't really even see it from
>> above, or below" ("it" being the starter), so it might be hard to get at the
>> cable attachment points with the meter leads.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
>>> There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
>>> should be tested for voltage drop while starting:
>>>
>>> Bat+ to starter
>>> Bat- to frame
>>> Frame to engine
>>>
>>> You can do it with two tests:
>>>
>>> Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
>>> Bat- (center post) to engine block
>>>
>>> You'll almost certainly need more than one set
>>> of hands to do these tests correctly. Hint: none
>>> of the contacts you make with the meter should
>>> be to any part of any cables in question.
>>>
>>> You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
>>> voltage fluctuations well. An old-school analog
>>> meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
>>> scale) will do.
>>>
>>> If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
>>> cabling, that's way too much.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
It would basically be impossible. The starter would have to be removed
and readjusted (pointed down) to get at the connections on the starter
to check or remove. Battery is inside the car so I guess you could do
it with a super long cable assuming you could somehow get to the starter
connections.
On 1/21/2022 4:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I guess the difficuly being that he says "I can't really even see it from above, or
below" ("it" being the starter), so it might be hard to get at the cable attachment
points with the meter leads.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
should be tested for voltage drop while starting:
Bat+ to starter
Bat- to frame
Frame to engine
You can do it with two tests:
Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
Bat- (center post) to engine block
You'll almost certainly need more than one set
of hands to do these tests correctly. Hint: none
of the contacts you make with the meter should
be to any part of any cables in question.
You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
voltage fluctuations well. An old-school analog
meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
scale) will do.
If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
cabling, that's way too much.
-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
I guess the difficuly being that he says "I can't really even see it from
above, or below" ("it" being the starter), so it might be hard to get at the
cable attachment points with the meter leads.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
> There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
> should be tested for voltage drop while starting:
>
> Bat+ to starter
> Bat- to frame
> Frame to engine
>
> You can do it with two tests:
>
> Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
> Bat- (center post) to engine block
>
> You'll almost certainly need more than one set
> of hands to do these tests correctly. Hint: none
> of the contacts you make with the meter should
> be to any part of any cables in question.
>
> You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
> voltage fluctuations well. An old-school analog
> meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
> scale) will do.
>
> If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
> cabling, that's way too much.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter
The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect. There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all should be tested for voltage drop while starting: Bat+ to starter Bat- to frame Frame to engine You can do it with two tests: Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter Bat- (center post) to engine block You'll almost certainly need more than one set of hands to do these tests correctly. Hint: none of the contacts you make with the meter should be to any part of any cables in question. You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track voltage fluctuations well. An old-school analog meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary scale) will do. If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the cabling, that's way too much. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL 642 starter
So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow. I had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery. It seemed to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it should. Starter still drawing about 300 amps. Yesterday the wife left and it was probably around 20 outside. She said it cycled thru 2 keyless go starts but timed out. Took the button out and used key and started it. Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out. 2nd cycle it finally started. I am thinking I am probably going to have to go ahead with the starter replacement anyway. As mentioned before, I can't really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm? This is going to be a whore of a job. Jono? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
I am not really sure the Weezurd is all that great. I had to undo some of his "work" on this GL. On 6/19/2021 2:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Send it to the Weezurd! --FT Sent from iPhone On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: That's almost half an amp! Way too high... Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems like it could be hard to narrow down Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Send it to the Weezurd! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That's almost half an amp! Way too high... >> >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> >> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : >> >>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being >>> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and >>> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too >>> high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not >>> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it >>> seems like it could be hard to narrow down >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
0.01 = 1/100 of an amp, that is acceptable and sounds like normal. 0.06 is also not too bad. Sure hope this isn't "fixing" itself while you are looking. Follow Jim's advice, put some remote measuring device on it so you can close up all the doors and hood, and then let it sit for awhile to see if it goes away. Probably need to start the car up and drive it around, then park and leave it alone to see what happens. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I finished doing the rear fuse box. I’m in the back with all doors closed > lights off and let it settle down a few minutes first. I never came up with > any conclusions. After a while it would drop to .06 and stay there a while. > It’s now down to .01. I am thinking .06 to .01 is probably about normal. > The battery has a date of 12/20, is it possible it’s already going bad? > Dead battery aside it always seemed to me like it turns over slower than it > should like it would with a old weak battery. I supposed I could replace it > and see what happens. I did however load test it and it tested just fine. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
I finished doing the rear fuse box. I’m in the back with all doors closed lights off and let it settle down a few minutes first. I never came up with any conclusions. After a while it would drop to .06 and stay there a while. It’s now down to .01. I am thinking .06 to .01 is probably about normal. The battery has a date of 12/20, is it possible it’s already going bad? Dead battery aside it always seemed to me like it turns over slower than it should like it would with a old weak battery. I supposed I could replace it and see what happens. I did however load test it and it tested just fine. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> >> some cars have computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening >> or something. > > Yes, dynamic behavior makes the chase all the more fun. A likely better first > pass would be to instrument the battery feed, close up the car and let it go > to > sleep, then start pulling fuses until the load drops off. Then narrow it down > to what's on that circuit, etc. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
SWMBO's Infiniti has an alarm system that stays on high alert if anything is open, like the trunk or hood. I was diagnosing a high current drain, decided to ask online in a forum before I spent hours pulling fuses, and got an immediate answer to close all the doors and trunk and then tape down the hood switch so the alarm system thought the hood was closed, and THEN check the current draw. It was normal. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:26 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > W210s go to sleep after 30 minutes or so. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
> some cars have computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or > something. Yes, dynamic behavior makes the chase all the more fun. A likely better first pass would be to instrument the battery feed, close up the car and let it go to sleep, then start pulling fuses until the load drops off. Then narrow it down to what's on that circuit, etc. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
W210s go to sleep after 30 minutes or so. -D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember seeing somewhere (Hoovies Garage? Car Wizard?) that some cars have > computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or something. > This one is going to be fun to find. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
I remember seeing somewhere (Hoovies Garage? Car Wizard?) that some cars have computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or something. This one is going to be fun to find. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Harbor Fright has such a device, I have one. It has a plug that mimics a blade fuse with an ammeter attached to it. About $14, if I recall. -D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dig online first, figure out what the common reasons are, and try those. > You may get lucky. Maybe some computer somewhere thinks it needs to keep > working day and night. Radio amp staying on, or something easy like that. > > Would be nice if someone made a meter adapter for those blade fuses, so you > could pull a fuse, stick the adapter in the slot, and immediately see if > that circuit is the culprit. What would be really madenning would be a > fault such that pulling the fuse will cure the fault, so when you try to > measure the draw on that fuse location, you get a normal (probably zero) > reading. > > Did you see if there are any codes from any of the various systems? > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> That's almost half an amp! Way too high... >>> >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> >>> >>> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>: >>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being >> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and >> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too >> high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not >> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it >> seems like it could be hard to narrow down Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Dig online first, figure out what the common reasons are, and try those. You may get lucky. Maybe some computer somewhere thinks it needs to keep working day and night. Radio amp staying on, or something easy like that. Would be nice if someone made a meter adapter for those blade fuses, so you could pull a fuse, stick the adapter in the slot, and immediately see if that circuit is the culprit. What would be really madenning would be a fault such that pulling the fuse will cure the fault, so when you try to measure the draw on that fuse location, you get a normal (probably zero) reading. Did you see if there are any codes from any of the various systems? - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > That's almost half an amp! Way too high... > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > > > Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>: > > > >> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being > started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and > pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too > high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not > sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it > seems like it could be hard to narrow down > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Time to start pulling fuses. A lot of fuses. -D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That's almost half an amp! Way too high... >> >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> >> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : >> >>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being >>> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and >>> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too >>> high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not >>> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it >>> seems like it could be hard to narrow down >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's almost half an amp! Way too high... > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > > Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > >> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started >> battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is >> what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high >> for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I >> recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems >> like it could be hard to narrow down >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
That's almost half an amp! Way too high... Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started > battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is what > I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high for one > of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I recall. > With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems like it > could be hard to narrow down > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL amp draw
On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems like it could be hard to narrow down Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL
> I would agree but it should still be able to sit for more than 4 days before > getting too low to start. I am going to start with load testing the battery. > Also it appears to be putting out around 14 volts when idling. Check the parasitic draw on the battery too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL
I would agree but it should still be able to sit for more than 4 days before getting too low to start. I am going to start with load testing the battery. Also it appears to be putting out around 14 volts when idling. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:06 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > Modern cars don't like to sit for very long without being driven. Too much > parasitic > load on the battery. > > Your charging system is suspect. Low battery voltage will cause all sorts > of weirdness. Find/fix power supply problems, only then look for trouble. > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL
Modern cars don't like to sit for very long without being driven. Too much parasitic load on the battery. Your charging system is suspect. Low battery voltage will cause all sorts of weirdness. Find/fix power supply problems, only then look for trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL transfer case
I curse the person who came up with the driveshaft connection on these things. It's easy to get to, but impossible to get the rear drive shaft to clear the transfer case. I buggered but the end cap that holds the grease in when removing it. Got it bend sort of straight and was able to get it back on the driveshaft. Anyway, I got a used care off eBay out of a 09 GL with 70k miles. When it arrived it looked almost brand new. Got it wrestled back into place, ended up having to drop the drive shaft center support mount to get just enough slack to get the shaft back connected to the case. Got it all put back together and took it for a drive. No more bad grinding/rattling under acceleration. I was worried I was going to pick up some drive shaft vibration but I took it up to 60 and seems smooth. I sure as hell do not get why they changed to these star type bolts, thru just seem cheap to me plus I had to get a new set of sockets for these. Now on to the next project. I have a good feeling this was what was wrong with Wilts sons car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] GL transfer case
Attaboy! So your newest Benz needed major repair - not a good sign. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I curse the person who came up with the driveshaft connection on these things. It's easy to get to, but impossible to get the rear drive shaft to clear the transfer case. I buggered but the end cap that holds the grease in when removing it. Got it bend sort of straight and was able to get it back on the driveshaft. Anyway, I got a used care off eBay out of a 09 GL with 70k miles. When it arrived it looked almost brand new. Got it wrestled back into place, ended up having to drop the drive shaft center support mount to get just enough slack to get the shaft back connected to the case. Got it all put back together and took it for a drive. No more bad grinding/rattling under acceleration. I was worried I was going to pick up some drive shaft vibration but I took it up to 60 and seems smooth. I sure as hell do not get why they changed to these star type bolts, thru just seem cheap to me plus I had to get a new set of sockets for these. Now on to the next project. I have a good feeling this was what was wrong with Wilts sons car. ___ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] GL transfer case
ATTABOY! Very well may be what son's car's problem was. Just can't understand why stealer gave 'im so BS over it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] GL transfer case I curse the person who came up with the driveshaft connection on these things. It's easy to get to, but impossible to get the rear drive shaft to clear the transfer case. I buggered but the end cap that holds the grease in when removing it. Got it bend sort of straight and was able to get it back on the driveshaft. Anyway, I got a used care off eBay out of a 09 GL with 70k miles. When it arrived it looked almost brand new. Got it wrestled back into place, ended up having to drop the drive shaft center support mount to get just enough slack to get the shaft back connected to the case. Got it all put back together and took it for a drive. No more bad grinding/rattling under acceleration. I was worried I was going to pick up some drive shaft vibration but I took it up to 60 and seems smooth. I sure as hell do not get why they changed to these star type bolts, thru just seem cheap to me plus I had to get a new set of sockets for these. Now on to the next project. I have a good feeling this was what was wrong with Wilts sons car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] GL transfer case
Well so far with this vehicle the following have had to be replaced since I have owned it: all 4 air shocks replaced LF air shock again air suspension compressor COMAND unit Transfer case From working on this vehicle it is nice and all, but it is not near the quality of the MB of old. On 5/4/2014 5:30 PM, OK Don wrote: Attaboy! So your newest Benz needed major repair - not a good sign. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I curse the person who came up with the driveshaft connection on these things. It's easy to get to, but impossible to get the rear drive shaft to clear the transfer case. I buggered but the end cap that holds the grease in when removing it. Got it bend sort of straight and was able to get it back on the driveshaft. Anyway, I got a used care off eBay out of a 09 GL with 70k miles. When it arrived it looked almost brand new. Got it wrestled back into place, ended up having to drop the drive shaft center support mount to get just enough slack to get the shaft back connected to the case. Got it all put back together and took it for a drive. No more bad grinding/rattling under acceleration. I was worried I was going to pick up some drive shaft vibration but I took it up to 60 and seems smooth. I sure as hell do not get why they changed to these star type bolts, thru just seem cheap to me plus I had to get a new set of sockets for these. Now on to the next project. I have a good feeling this was what was wrong with Wilts sons car. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Dan Penoff wrote: A moose once bit my sister I knew it... I _knew_ it!! I just knew it was going to come up!!! It's Friday somewhere - right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
No, no! She got better. Dan But I don't want to go on the cart On Nov 21, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: A moose once bit my sister I knew it... I _knew_ it!! I just knew it was going to come up!!! It's Friday somewhere - right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer tyre protection
Good catch Wilton, I have to be careful and not hang around foreign forums. Anyway the way things are going it won't be long before we are celebrating thanksgiving. Hendrik who has to keep telling daughter that it's biscuits, even though it says cookies on the box On 22/11/12 01:00, WILTON wrote: 'Thought that was tyres, or have you guys joined US on that? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection This is what ya need http://cheezburger.com/6690165504 Hendrik who is off to fit some old tires to the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection
On Nov 21, 2012 12:29 AM, Hendrik Fay henifay heni...@ozemail.com.au@heni...@ozemail.com.au ozemail.com.au heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: This is what ya need http http://cheezburger.com/6690165504://http://cheezburger.com/6690165504 cheezburger.com http://cheezburger.com/6690165504/6690165504http://cheezburger.com/6690165504 I can't read the signs but it looks a lot like India. If that's so, the tire armor is a pretty reasonable idea. :) Best, Tim Always had a professional driver in India ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection
Isn't that an oxymoron? --R On 11/22/2012 6:11 PM, Tim C wrote: Best, Tim Always had a professional driver in India ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
They may have 'went out' from the factory but became a pricey aftermarket item. I thought running boards went out by 1946, except for the lowly MB 170, as a prewar holdover. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection
'Thought that was tyres, or have you guys joined US on that? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection This is what ya need http://cheezburger.com/6690165504 Hendrik who is off to fit some old tires to the car On 21/11/12 11:16, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
But it's not Friday! How quickly the traditions are forgotten. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
It's kind of like Friday since we have tomorrow off. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer But it's not Friday! How quickly the traditions are forgotten. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:20:48 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: It's kind of like Friday since we have tomorrow off. Yup. Craig attachment: moose.03.sm.jpg___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Sure has..lol Mike On Nov 21, 2012 12:20 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
I have related this story in the past, which I remember from being a teenager. We were visiting my mother's friend who was a nurse, and related the story that she was driving to work one morning at like 5AM in her VW bug. Comes around a curve and there is a mule in the road, which she hits and proceeds on a bit until stopped. She gets out to see what had happened, the mule had rolled up and over the bug and landed back on its feet, was sorta shaking off the experience and ambled off. The bug was undamaged other than some mule hair. She was rattled but given the animal and the car were OK proceeded on to work. This story made an awesome impression on me. --R On 11/20/2012 7:51 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Drive a Saab...the odd shape is supposed to be designed to handle moose hits. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gl and the deer
Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Wow. That doesn't look like 11K worth of damage! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Time to send it to the okie acres back lot! 11k would buy 22 kaleb cars! Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone Must be a mighty expensive hood and fender. That was little damage for a bambi. hit on a corner is a light hit. Some of em are so big and heavy that they require frame straightening and such, and that generally results in the vehicle being totalled. The prior van took out 4 bambis. The last one resulted in the van being totalled. Only one SWMBO got while I owned it, but that took out the van. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Well for example that headlight is $1800, bumper $900, hood 1200, $2000 rear door, running board $600 etc. 8k is parts. Half tempted to get the payout and source used parts myself but no I want it fixed right. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:01 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow. That doesn't look like 11K worth of damage! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
No joke. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Time to send it to the okie acres back lot! 11k would buy 22 kaleb cars! Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone Must be a mighty expensive hood and fender. That was little damage for a bambi. hit on a corner is a light hit. Some of em are so big and heavy that they require frame straightening and such, and that generally results in the vehicle being totalled. The prior van took out 4 bambis. The last one resulted in the van being totalled. Only one SWMBO got while I owned it, but that took out the van. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Half tempted to get the payout and source used parts myself but no I want it fixed right. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
That thing would get some ebay body panels and such and I would have a pocket full of money. Paint it nice, keep it insured well and aim for another bigger deer. Mike On Nov 20, 2012 7:35 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Half tempted to get the payout and source used parts myself but no I want it fixed right. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:11:20 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer Message-ID: a06240828ccd1cb553e35@[192.168.1.70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Time to send it to the okie acres back lot! 11k would buy 22 kaleb cars! Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone Must be a mighty expensive hood and fender. That was little damage for a bambi. hit on a corner is a light hit. Some of em are so big and heavy that they require frame straightening and such, and that generally results in the vehicle being totalled. The prior van took out 4 bambis. The last one resulted in the van being totalled. Only one SWMBO got while I owned it, but that took out the van. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Drive a Saab...the odd shape is supposed to be designed to handle moose hits. Mike On Nov 20, 2012 7:47 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:11:20 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer Message-ID: a06240828ccd1cb553e35@[192.168.1.70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Time to send it to the okie acres back lot! 11k would buy 22 kaleb cars! Initial estimate 11k in damage to repair the gl deer damage. Shop said will most likely find more damage after they tear into it. Going into a MB certified shop. Sent from my iPhone Must be a mighty expensive hood and fender. That was little damage for a bambi. hit on a corner is a light hit. Some of em are so big and heavy that they require frame straightening and such, and that generally results in the vehicle being totalled. The prior van took out 4 bambis. The last one resulted in the van being totalled. Only one SWMBO got while I owned it, but that took out the van. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
