Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Nearly the same price at FLAPS I keep 2 boxes in the garage, one up front and 
one out back so they're always handy.
I've got a Ziploc bag with 4 pairs in each vehicle and the groomer.
CurtCurrently waiting for the plane to board...

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  On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 1:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:   On sale, at harbor freight, usually 100 pair box circa $7. For blue.
Black, which is more durable, runs at circa $9.
Should also find them online at HarborFreight.com [whatever their link
address is, I forget].

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What's the cost of  blue nitrile gloves and their durability?
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly
> > every visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long,
> > meaning when I’m done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and
> wasted.
> >
> > I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to
> use
> > multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the air
> > cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.  The
> > rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job
> > of coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at
> > this point.
> > >
> > > Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
> > >
> > >
> > > clay
> > >
> > > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> > >
> > > retired models-
> > > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to
> the
> > >>> kitchen.
> > >>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
> > >>
> > >> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Craig
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Nitrile is much more durable than latex or plastic. Try them, you will
"convert".

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Durability?  Same as the latex or plastic gloves (which I sometimes re-use
> depending)?
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > $6-$7/box of 100, I think.  I always use my 25% off coupons when I buy
> > them.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Mar 23, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What's the cost of  blue nitrile gloves and their durability?
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly
> > every visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long,
> > meaning when I’m done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and
> wasted.
> > >>
> > >> I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to
> > use multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >> > On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the
> > air cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.
>  The
> > rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job
> > of coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at
> > this point.
> > >> >
> > >> > Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > clay
> > >> >
> > >> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > >> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > >> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> > >> >
> > >> > retired models-
> > >> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > >> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > >> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > >> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > >> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> > >> >>  wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage
> to
> > the
> > >> >>> kitchen.
> > >> >>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt
> off.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Craig
> > >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Durability?  Same as the latex or plastic gloves (which I sometimes re-use
depending)?

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> $6-$7/box of 100, I think.  I always use my 25% off coupons when I buy
> them.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 23, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > What's the cost of  blue nitrile gloves and their durability?
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly
> every visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long,
> meaning when I’m done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and wasted.
> >>
> >> I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to
> use multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> > On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the
> air cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.   The
> rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job
> of coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at
> this point.
> >> >
> >> > Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > clay
> >> >
> >> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> >> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> >> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >> >
> >> > retired models-
> >> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> >> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> >> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to
> the
> >> >>> kitchen.
> >> >>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
> >> >>
> >> >> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Craig
> >> >>
> >> >> ___
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[G Mann via Mercedes]

On sale, at harbor freight, usually 100 pair box circa $7. For blue.
Black, which is more durable, runs at circa $9.
Should also find them online at HarborFreight.com [whatever their link
address is, I forget].

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What's the cost of  blue nitrile gloves and their durability?
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly
> > every visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long,
> > meaning when I’m done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and
> wasted.
> >
> > I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to
> use
> > multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the air
> > cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.   The
> > rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job
> > of coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at
> > this point.
> > >
> > > Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
> > >
> > >
> > > clay
> > >
> > > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> > >
> > > retired models-
> > > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to
> the
> > >>> kitchen.
> > >>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
> > >>
> > >> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Craig
> > >>
> > >> ___
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

$6-$7/box of 100, I think.  I always use my 25% off coupons when I buy them.

-D

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> What's the cost of  blue nitrile gloves and their durability?
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly every 
>> visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long, meaning when 
>> I’m done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and wasted.
>> 
>> I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to use 
>> multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the air 
>> > cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.   The 
>> > rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job 
>> > of coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at 
>> > this point.
>> >
>> > Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
>> >
>> >
>> > clay
>> >
>> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> > 1986 SDL - Polei
>> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> >
>> > retired models-
>> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the
>> >>> kitchen.
>> >>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
>> >>
>> >> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Craig
>> >>
>> >> ___
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's the cost of  blue nitrile gloves and their durability?

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly
> every visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long,
> meaning when I’m done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and wasted.
>
> I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to use
> multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the air
> cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.   The
> rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job
> of coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at
> this point.
> >
> > Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >
> > retired models-
> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the
> >>> kitchen.
> >>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
> >>
> >> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
> >>
> >> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Harbor Freight blue nitrile gloves, my stock purchase from them nearly every 
visit.  I would go with the black ones but they last too long, meaning when I’m 
done they’re not, so they can get thrown away and wasted.

I glove up for just about every operation on the car, and if I have to use 
multiple pairs, so be it. Saves on hands and cleanup.

-D 

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:32 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the air 
> cleaner cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.   The 
> rattle can rust fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job of 
> coating my hand and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at this 
> point.
> 
> Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the 
>>> kitchen.
>>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
>> 
>> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
>> 
>> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Gloves are good.  I forgot to use them yesterday while painting the air cleaner 
cover.  Scrubbed, sanded, rinsed and put them out to dry.   The rattle can rust 
fix did not show up, but the black rattle did a great job of coating my hand 
and arm.  Pulled the sleeve down and put a glove on at this point.

Now one hand looks darker than the other.  Like I weird tan


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 22, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the 
>> kitchen.
>> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
> 
> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
> 
> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Blue nitrile gloves are 7 mil thick... Black nitrile gloves are 9 mil
thick. Which I now use, They last much better through the mechanical abuse.
[Check the box of gloves you buy, your source may vary from mine.]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the
> > kitchen.
> > much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.
>
> They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...
>
> Thank you for reminding me I have some.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:06:40 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the 
> kitchen.
> much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.

They would help with my hands, but not up my arms ...

Thank you for reminding me I have some.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 22/03/2018 4:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Well, Max:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:38:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:


Craig, find the holes on the back side of the pulley wheel, stick a 5mm
hex key in the hole, and that will jam against the rib on the shaft of
the water pump.  Once jammed, you can loosen the bolt holding the
clutch.

and Dan:

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:06:49 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:


On or near the top of the water pump housing behind the pulley are a
couple of ribs cast into the housing. Using these as a stop, a piece of
rod stock about 3/16” in diameter, bent into a short “L” shape with the
bottom end of the “L” being maybe 1/2” long or slightly longer, is
placed up against one of these ribs and the end of the rod going into a
hole in the back of the pulley or flange.

were correct. An undocumented feature, but it's there on the OM602 water
pump in our car.

So, using a 5 mm Allen wrench, previously modified for removing the power
steering pump on our former '94 E420, and a breaker bar on the Stahlwille
8 mm socket-drive Allen, I was able to get the stubborn bolt out and
remove the viscous fan clutch!

Ah, the sweet smell of success! And filthy-dirty hands from something
which has been leaking longer than I have owned it.


BLUE NITRILE GLOVES - we use them for everything from the garage to the 
kitchen.

much easier than using hand cleaner and trying to get the dirt off.

RB



I started loosening the power steering pump -- which is MUCH easier than
doing the one on an E420! -- and now have it off.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yay!  Bravo!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> So, using a 5 mm Allen wrench, previously modified for removing the power
> steering pump on our former '94 E420, and a breaker bar on the Stahlwille
> 8 mm socket-drive Allen, I was able to get the stubborn bolt out and
> remove the viscous fan clutch!
>
> Ah, the sweet smell of success! And filthy-dirty hands from something
> which has been leaking longer than I have owned it.
>
> I started loosening the power steering pump -- which is MUCH easier than
> doing the one on an E420! -- and now have it off.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Craig via Mercedes]

Well, Max:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:38:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig, find the holes on the back side of the pulley wheel, stick a 5mm
> hex key in the hole, and that will jam against the rib on the shaft of
> the water pump.  Once jammed, you can loosen the bolt holding the
> clutch.

and Dan:

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:06:49 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On or near the top of the water pump housing behind the pulley are a
> couple of ribs cast into the housing. Using these as a stop, a piece of
> rod stock about 3/16” in diameter, bent into a short “L” shape with the
> bottom end of the “L” being maybe 1/2” long or slightly longer, is
> placed up against one of these ribs and the end of the rod going into a
> hole in the back of the pulley or flange.

were correct. An undocumented feature, but it's there on the OM602 water
pump in our car.

So, using a 5 mm Allen wrench, previously modified for removing the power
steering pump on our former '94 E420, and a breaker bar on the Stahlwille
8 mm socket-drive Allen, I was able to get the stubborn bolt out and
remove the viscous fan clutch!

Ah, the sweet smell of success! And filthy-dirty hands from something
which has been leaking longer than I have owned it.

I started loosening the power steering pump -- which is MUCH easier than
doing the one on an E420! -- and now have it off.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

There is another method of securing the fan that was on my 603 diesel that 
might be present on yours:

On or near the top of the water pump housing behind the pulley are a couple of 
ribs cast into the housing. Using these as a stop, a piece of rod stock about 
3/16” in diameter, bent into a short “L” shape with the bottom end of the “L” 
being maybe 1/2” long or slightly longer, is placed up against one of these 
ribs and the end of the rod going into a hole in the back of the pulley or 
flange.

Hope that makes sense *and* it’s something that’s on your car.

-D

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This works on both of my 124 diesel engines (OM603 & OM606).  The holes 
> should be there and the method should work for your OM602.
> 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On March 21, 2018 11:51:00 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:38:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Craig, find the holes on the back side of the pulley wheel, stick a
>> 5mm
>>> hex key in the hole, and that will jam against the rib on the shaft
>> of
>>> the water pump.  Once jammed, you can loosen the bolt holding the
>>> clutch.
>> 
>> As a matter of fact, Max, I think I was the one who first discovered
>> this.
>> 
>> I looked through the W124 CD and finally found where mention is made of
>> this: It's for the M104 engine (picture attached, upper right corner).
>> 
>> From what the manual says, it doesn't apply to the OM602. I'll have a
>> closer look at it tomorrow, but from what I remember from glancing at
>> the
>> water pump, I think that will be the case.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

This works on both of my 124 diesel engines (OM603 & OM606).  The holes should 
be there and the method should work for your OM602.

-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 21, 2018 11:51:00 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:38:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> Craig, find the holes on the back side of the pulley wheel, stick a
>5mm
>> hex key in the hole, and that will jam against the rib on the shaft
>of
>> the water pump.  Once jammed, you can loosen the bolt holding the
>> clutch.
>
>As a matter of fact, Max, I think I was the one who first discovered
>this.
>
>I looked through the W124 CD and finally found where mention is made of
>this: It's for the M104 engine (picture attached, upper right corner).
>
>From what the manual says, it doesn't apply to the OM602. I'll have a
>closer look at it tomorrow, but from what I remember from glancing at
>the
>water pump, I think that will be the case.
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:00:33 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> As a last resort, I have clamped a vicegrip to hold the serp belt to
> the fan pulley, so it can't slip.   (OM603)

I did use a vice grip, but I put a thin piece of wood between the belt
and the jaw of the vice-grip to keep from chewing up the belt.

I also looked up the spec for tightening: 40 - 45 Nm depending on where
you look. I had thought it was 10 Nm and the torque I was exerting on it
with the vice-grip/wood clamp was more than that, but maybe not 45 Nm
(33 ft-lbf).


Craig


> > Craig via Mercedes 
> > March 21, 2018 at 10:51 PM
> > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:38:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
> >
> > As a matter of fact, Max, I think I was the one who first discovered
> > this.
> >
> > I looked through the W124 CD and finally found where mention is made
> > of this: It's for the M104 engine (picture attached, upper right
> > corner).
> >
> > From what the manual says, it doesn't apply to the OM602. I'll have a
> > closer look at it tomorrow, but from what I remember from glancing at
> > the water pump, I think that will be the case.

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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

As a last resort, I have clamped a vicegrip to hold the serp belt to the 
fan pulley, so it can't slip.   (OM603)



Craig via Mercedes 
March 21, 2018 at 10:51 PM
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:38:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes

As a matter of fact, Max, I think I was the one who first discovered this.

I looked through the W124 CD and finally found where mention is made of
this: It's for the M104 engine (picture attached, upper right corner).

From what the manual says, it doesn't apply to the OM602. I'll have a
closer look at it tomorrow, but from what I remember from glancing at the
water pump, I think that will be the case.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig, find the holes on the back side of the pulley wheel, stick a 5mm hex key 
in the hole, and that will jam against the rib on the shaft of the water pump.  
Once jammed, you can loosen the bolt holding the clutch.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

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On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:13:45 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> From looking at the photo it appears the fan clutch is still attached.
> I generally remove the entire assembly clutch and fan. If you are not
> able to remove the clutch then you will need to remove the radiator.
> It’s far easier to just remove the clutch though. 

Well, there is a reason I was asking how to get the clutch off ...

As I said earlier:

  > I looked at the line drawing of the holder tool some more and
  > figured out how it works. I thought I might substitute a vice-grip
  > and a piece of wood to keep from chewing up the belt like in the
  > attached pictures.
  > 
  > That does make it much harder to turn the bolt, but the pulley
  > still rotates without the bolt breaking loose.

I think someone used Locktite Red on it. It does not come out.


Craig



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> 
> > On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:30:26 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> With the fan off you should be able to pull the shroud straight up.
> >> You may have to remove the top radiator hose from the radiator 
> > 
> > I pulled the top radiator hose and found, as the attached picture
> > shows, on this car that does not work.
> > 
> > I guess I'll have to pull the radiator.

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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

From looking at the photo it appears the fan clutch is still attached. I 
generally remove the entire assembly clutch and fan. If you are not able to 
remove the clutch then you will need to remove the radiator. It’s far easier to 
just remove the clutch though. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:30:26 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> With the fan off you should be able to pull the shroud straight up. You
>> may have to remove the top radiator hose from the radiator 
> 
> I pulled the top radiator hose and found, as the attached picture shows,
> on this car that does not work.
> 
> I guess I'll have to pull the radiator.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 6:29 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:53:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 You have to have the holder tool which used to be sold at HF to hold
 the pulley while loosening the bolt.
>>> 
>>> I looked at the line drawing of the holder tool some more and figured
>>> out how it works. I thought I might substitute a vice-grip and a
>>> piece of wood to keep from chewing up the belt like in the attached
>>> pictures.
>>> 
>>> That does make it much harder to turn the bolt, but the pulley still
>>> rotates without the bolt breaking loose.
>>> 
>>> 
 With fan off shroud comes right out. 
>>> 
>>> I do have the fan off, but the shroud doesn't come right out -- that's
>>> why I'm asking how to get the viscous clutch out. I think the shroud
>>> will come out once the viscous clutch is out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> Do I need to take the radiator out to get the fan shroud out?
> 
> It looks like I shouldn't have to, but you never know.
> 
> I tried getting the viscous fan clutch out, but the central bolt
> only spins. The shop manual section 20-5660hw shows a counter
> holder tool, I don't see how that's held in place.
> 
> Section 20-5660ha talks about a union nut to a bearing body and
> shows an open-end wrench bit going into an extension handle, but
> looking at the car I don't see anything like a union nut.
> 
> All this is to replace the power steering pump with one Kaleb sent
> (at least that's what is supposed to be in the box -- I haven't
> opened it yet).
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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>>>  affectionately dubbed the BRV)
>>>  207 kmi
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>>> Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
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>>> 
>>> Past:'82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
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>> 
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

With the fan off you should be able to pull the shroud straight up. You may 
have to remove the top radiator hose from the radiator 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 6:29 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:53:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> You have to have the holder tool which used to be sold at HF to hold
>> the pulley while loosening the bolt.
> 
> I looked at the line drawing of the holder tool some more and figured out
> how it works. I thought I might substitute a vice-grip and a piece of
> wood to keep from chewing up the belt like in the attached pictures.
> 
> That does make it much harder to turn the bolt, but the pulley still
> rotates without the bolt breaking loose.
> 
> 
>> With fan off shroud comes right out. 
> 
> I do have the fan off, but the shroud doesn't come right out -- that's
> why I'm asking how to get the viscous clutch out. I think the shroud will
> come out once the viscous clutch is out.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do I need to take the radiator out to get the fan shroud out?
>>> 
>>> It looks like I shouldn't have to, but you never know.
>>> 
>>> I tried getting the viscous fan clutch out, but the central bolt only
>>> spins. The shop manual section 20-5660hw shows a counter holder tool,
>>> I don't see how that's held in place.
>>> 
>>> Section 20-5660ha talks about a union nut to a bearing body and shows
>>> an open-end wrench bit going into an extension handle, but looking at
>>> the car I don't see anything like a union nut.
>>> 
>>> All this is to replace the power steering pump with one Kaleb sent (at
>>> least that's what is supposed to be in the box -- I haven't opened it
>>> yet).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Present: '90 300D/2.5 Turbo246 kmi
>>>'89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (the Big Red Van,
>>>  affectionately dubbed the BRV)
>>>  207 kmi
>>>'07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi  For sale!
>>> Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
>>>'00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi
>>> 
>>> Past:'82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
>>>'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
>>>'94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
>>>'86 190E/2.3
>>>'72 220/8
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I would describe those holes as on the back of the pulley wheel, and a 5mm (or 
so) hex key fits the hole.  Once inserted, the hex key will jam against a rib 
on the body of the water pump, and then you can loosen the bolt holding the fan 
clutch.
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 21, 2018 6:30:39 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>There are holes in the back of the clutch and a groove in the bracket. 
>A heavy wire with a hook bent at the very end will sit in that groove
>and fit into the holes, locking the clutch so you can unscrew the bolt.
>8mm hex, use a short one.  Some models I think you have to rig a strap
>clamp to do the job.
>
>Radiator does not need to come out, but it's a pain.  Shroud will have
>to come out with the clutch and fan.
>
>Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:30:39 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 wrote:

> There are holes in the back of the clutch and a groove in the bracket.
> A heavy wire with a hook bent at the very end will sit in that groove
> and fit into the holes, locking the clutch so you can unscrew the
> bolt.  8mm hex, use a short one.

I know that's how the M119 is set up, but this one is different. I do
have the appropriate Stahlwille 8mm "screwdriver bit" (short 8mm
socket-drive allen wrench, actually).


> Some models I think you have to rig a strap clamp to do the job.

I'm not sure how that would be done.


> Radiator does not need to come out, but it's a pain.

That's for sure! My forearms are rather chewed up.


> Shroud will have to come out with the clutch and fan.

Thanks, Peter. That's what it looked like to me.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You have to have the holder tool which used to be sold at HF to hold the pulley 
while loosening the bolt. With fan off shroud comes right out. 

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> On Mar 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Do I need to take the radiator out to get the fan shroud out?
> 
> It looks like I shouldn't have to, but you never know.
> 
> I tried getting the viscous fan clutch out, but the central bolt only
> spins. The shop manual section 20-5660hw shows a counter holder tool,
> I don't see how that's held in place.
> 
> Section 20-5660ha talks about a union nut to a bearing body and shows an
> open-end wrench bit going into an extension handle, but looking at the
> car I don't see anything like a union nut.
> 
> All this is to replace the power steering pump with one Kaleb sent (at
> least that's what is supposed to be in the box -- I haven't opened it
> yet).
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

There are holes in the back of the clutch and a groove in the bracket.  A heavy 
wire with a hook bent at the very end will sit in that groove and fit into the 
holes, locking the clutch so you can unscrew the bolt.  8mm hex, use a short 
one.  Some models I think you have to rig a strap clamp to do the job.

Radiator does not need to come out, but it's a pain.  Shroud will have to come 
out with the clutch and fan.

Peter
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[MBZ] Getting fan shroud out of W124 E300D/2.5 Turbo

[Craig via Mercedes]

Do I need to take the radiator out to get the fan shroud out?

It looks like I shouldn't have to, but you never know.

I tried getting the viscous fan clutch out, but the central bolt only
spins. The shop manual section 20-5660hw shows a counter holder tool,
I don't see how that's held in place.

Section 20-5660ha talks about a union nut to a bearing body and shows an
open-end wrench bit going into an extension handle, but looking at the
car I don't see anything like a union nut.

All this is to replace the power steering pump with one Kaleb sent (at
least that's what is supposed to be in the box -- I haven't opened it
yet).



Craig

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 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (the Big Red Van,
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 '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi  For sale!
  Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
 '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi

Past:'82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
 '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
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