Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had a strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom edge of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the trunk edge. -D > On Nov 11, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Ever wonder why the engineers put that strange lifting handle on the > plastic spare tire cover in the trunk of a W124? > > As the attached pictures show, I discovered the reason today. Clever > people, those Germans. > > > Craig > > -- > Present: '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo 354 kmi > '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville 230 kmi > (the Big Red Van, BRV) > '00 Kenworth W900 Helmut 943 kmi > > Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo 265 kmi RIP > '07 Peterbilt 386 Bruno 885 kmi > '95 E320 Sebastian 135 kmi RIP > '94 E420 Oskar 127 kmi RIP > '82 240D/3.0 Bluebell 286 kmi > '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP > '86 190E/2.3 > '72 220/8 > '61 Willys Utility Wagon > '59 Willys Utility Wagon > '67 Volkswagen Fastback > '64 190Dc Emma > '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi > '69 Lotus Europa > '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale > '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
Yep. Clever lot those Germans. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Nov 12, 2020, at 6:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had > a strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom > edge of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the > trunk edge. > > -D > >> On Nov 11, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Ever wonder why the engineers put that strange lifting handle on the >> plastic spare tire cover in the trunk of a W124? >> >> As the attached pictures show, I discovered the reason today. Clever >> people, those Germans. >> >> >> Craig >> >> -- >> Present: '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo 354 kmi >>'89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville 230 kmi >>(the Big Red Van, BRV) >>'00 Kenworth W900 Helmut 943 kmi >> >> Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo 265 kmi RIP >>'07 Peterbilt 386 Bruno 885 kmi >>'95 E320 Sebastian 135 kmi RIP >>'94 E420 Oskar 127 kmi RIP >>'82 240D/3.0 Bluebell 286 kmi >>'87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP >>'86 190E/2.3 >>'72 220/8 >>'61 Willys Utility Wagon >>'59 Willys Utility Wagon >>'67 Volkswagen Fastback >>'64 190Dc Emma >>'72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi >>'69 Lotus Europa >>'64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale >>'59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
My w115 and R107 have a strap that secures (poorly) to the trunk lid. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 > On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had a > strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom edge > of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the trunk > edge. > > -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
What is the strap for on a W115? My spare is in the right side well of the trunk. There is no spare tire cover to hold up. RB On 12/11/2020 5:02 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: My w115 and R107 have a strap that secures (poorly) to the trunk lid. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had a strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom edge of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the trunk edge. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
Dang, forgot that and confused that with the 116 clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 > On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > What is the strap for on a W115? My spare is in the right side well of the > trunk. There is no spare tire cover to hold up. > RB > > > On 12/11/2020 5:02 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: >> My w115 and R107 have a strap that secures (poorly) to the trunk lid. >> >> clay >> >> “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, >> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout >> of self-recrimination and wetness.” >> >> B. Johnson >> 01/09/2020 >> >>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had >>> a strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom >>> edge of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the >>> trunk edge. >>> >>> -D >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
Right. Only spares that are stored in the “floor” of the trunk would have this sort of setup. -D > On Nov 12, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Dang, forgot that and confused that with the 116 > > clay > > “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, > about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of > self-recrimination and wetness.” > > B. Johnson > 01/09/2020 > >> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> What is the strap for on a W115? My spare is in the right side well of the >> trunk. There is no spare tire cover to hold up. >> RB >> >> >> On 12/11/2020 5:02 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: >>> My w115 and R107 have a strap that secures (poorly) to the trunk lid. >>> >>> clay >>> >>> “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our >>> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this >>> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” >>> >>> B. Johnson >>> 01/09/2020 >>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had a strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom edge of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the trunk edge. -D >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > clay > > “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, > about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of > self-recrimination and wetness.” > > B. Johnson > 01/09/2020 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!
> Dang, forgot that and confused that with the 116 I think the 123 and 201 also have the strap. The X5 also has a webbing strap that lifts the spare wheel out of its well when you open the tailgate. (If you engage it.) That's rather handy, and arguably necessary for many. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
It has non-standard wheels! Here I have been looking for tires of the 195/65-15 size, for 6.5 J x 15 H 2 rims. Our E420 has 215/55-16 tires, which of course means it has 16" rims! Now I wonder what width and offset they are. I also wonder if that means pulling a wheel off and looking for markings in the back. I know from the owner's manual that the E500 has 8J x 16 H 2 rims and is fitted with 225/55 ZR 16 tires. I wonder if someone swapped to those rims. Craig -- Present:'94 E420Oskar 118 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 264 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Everything post W124 had 16" rims from the factory -- W123 was the last one with 15's, I think. Maybe 15" on the W126, I'm not sure, but a 94 will have 16" rims standard for sure. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:55:13 -0600 Peter Frederick wrote: > Everything post W124 had 16" rims from the factory -- W123 was the > last one with 15's, I think. Maybe 15" on the W126, I'm not sure, > but a 94 will have 16" rims standard for sure. Then maybe I have a '93 owner's manual, since it says the standard size is 195/65-15. At any rate, I'm glad I didn't order some 195/65-15 tires! The 215/55-16 tires do seem to be much more expensive, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Craig wrote: It has non-standard wheels! According to Tire Rack, a 1994 E420 has 235/60-16 If that's correct, you have a wide variety of truck and SUV tires to choose from in that size. What's the doorframe sticker say on it? Here's an H-rated tire with good snow ratings in the survey: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Geolandar+A%2FT-S&partnum=36HR6GEOATS If you can get a 2nd set of rims (15") these are awesome in the snow: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+Arctic&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=965QR5AMAXA&tab=Survey If you just want new all season tires, these should be pretty good: Altimax HP on my Achieva are almost as good in the snow as skinny snow tires were on my Horizon. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+HP&partnum=36HR6AMAXHP http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Primacy+MXV4&partnum=36HR6MXV4P http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assurance+ComforTred+Touring&partnum=36HR6ACTT You might check with Wonko if you're thinking about the Goodyears linked above. He bought Goodyears for one of his cars, either Comfortred or Tripletred IIRC. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 06:06:18 -0500 Mitch Haley wrote: > Craig wrote: > > It has non-standard wheels! > > According to Tire Rack, a 1994 E420 has 235/60-16 > If that's correct, you have a wide variety of truck and SUV tires to > choose from in that size. That's strange. I went to Tire Rack yesterday and entered the description for my car. I did it again just now and came up with the same thing: Original Equipment Sizes for 1994 Mercedes-Benz E420 Description Size Original Equipment Size: 195/65-15 > What's the doorframe sticker say on it? Good idea! I went out in our 3 deg.F. weather and looked. It says the same thing as the owner's manual, 195/65-15. > Here's an H-rated tire with good snow ratings in the survey: > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Geolandar+A%2FT-S&partnum=36HR6GEOATS > > If you can get a 2nd set of rims (15") these are awesome in the snow: > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+Arctic&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=965QR5AMAXA&tab=Survey > > If you just want new all season tires, these should be pretty good: > Altimax HP on my Achieva are almost as good in the snow as skinny snow > tires were on my Horizon. > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+HP&partnum=36HR6AMAXHP > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Primacy+MXV4&partnum=36HR6MXV4P > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assurance+ComforTred+Touring&partnum=36HR6ACTT Thank you for your work, Mitch, in looking up this information. I'll have to peruse the various models. > You might check with Wonko if you're thinking about the Goodyears > linked above. He bought Goodyears for one of his cars, either > Comfortred or Tripletred IIRC. Another good idea. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Those wheels are off of a SLK or something like that On 12/30/2010 10:48 PM, Craig wrote: It has non-standard wheels! Here I have been looking for tires of the 195/65-15 size, for 6.5 J x 15 H 2 rims. Our E420 has 215/55-16 tires, which of course means it has 16" rims! Now I wonder what width and offset they are. I also wonder if that means pulling a wheel off and looking for markings in the back. I know from the owner's manual that the E500 has 8J x 16 H 2 rims and is fitted with 225/55 ZR 16 tires. I wonder if someone swapped to those rims. Craig -- Present:'94 E420Oskar 118 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 264 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
the 94-95 still has the same 15" wheels, his cars has the updated wheels off a later car On 12/30/2010 10:55 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Everything post W124 had 16" rims from the factory -- W123 was the last one with 15's, I think. Maybe 15" on the W126, I'm not sure, but a 94 will have 16" rims standard for sure. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Craig wrote: Here's an H-rated tire with good snow ratings in the survey: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Geolandar+A%2FT-S&partnum=36HR6GEOATS Thank you for your work, Mitch, in looking up this information. I'll have to peruse the various models. That first one I linked was half tongue in cheek, since it's a all terrain truck tire. But it had an H speed rating, plenty of weight rating, good owner survey results, and sure looked like a M+S rated tire. Might look sort of odd on a Mercedes though. Those Yokos you have seem to be a Discount Tire exclusive, but they advertised it as a premium all season tire. Just can't find much about them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:19:39 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Those wheels are off of a SLK or something like that > > On 12/30/2010 10:48 PM, Craig wrote: > > It has non-standard wheels! I went outside and pulled the left-front wheel and brought it inside so I could read the information on it. I first thought that it would be stamped into the inner circumference of the wheel, but I found it on the inside surface of the "spokes". The rims are:Ronal A 210 401 06 02 7-1/2Jx16 H2 On one of the spokes there is the lettering Si7 next to a rectangular box. That box is composed of 13 square sub-boxes. The large sub-box at the top has the numerals "86" in it, and five of the smaller sub-boxes have little dots while the rest have nothing in them. I surmise the rim was made in May, 1986. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Craig wrote: The rims are:Ronal A 210 401 06 02 7-1/2Jx16 H2 You gots W210 wheels. This ebay ad claims they fit E320/E300d. http://compare.ebay.com/96-99-mercedes-e300d-320-wheel-2104010602-16x7-5-41mm/like/190418683923 What does the tire placard on the door jamb say? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
OK, so they are off a 210 chassis car On 12/31/2010 1:41 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:19:39 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Those wheels are off of a SLK or something like that On 12/30/2010 10:48 PM, Craig wrote: It has non-standard wheels! I went outside and pulled the left-front wheel and brought it inside so I could read the information on it. I first thought that it would be stamped into the inner circumference of the wheel, but I found it on the inside surface of the "spokes". The rims are:Ronal A 210 401 06 02 7-1/2Jx16 H2 On one of the spokes there is the lettering Si7 next to a rectangular box. That box is composed of 13 square sub-boxes. The large sub-box at the top has the numerals "86" in it, and five of the smaller sub-boxes have little dots while the rest have nothing in them. I surmise the rim was made in May, 1986. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Craig wrote: >> The rims are: Ronal >> A 210 401 06 02 > You gots W210 wheels. An excellent upgrade for a W124 E420! The biggest complaint about the car in the magazines when it first appeared as the 400E, IIRC, was that the carryover wheel/tire combo from the 300E was inadequate for the increased power of the V-8. I'd say you've got a win/win there, Craig. There's a lot more variety available in 16" tires than in 15", and you can always get a set of 15" 300E wheels really cheap to mount snow tires on. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Craig wrote: > I know from the owner's manual that the E500 has 8J x 16 H 2 rims and is > fitted with 225/55 ZR 16 tires. I wonder if someone swapped to those rims. 500E/E500 rims don't fit an '86-'93 124 chassis car unless you roll the inside of the fenders. Suspension geometry on the '94-'95 facelifted cars changed a little, but probably not enough to make a difference. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:28:54 -0500 Mitch Haley wrote: > Craig wrote: > > > The rims are:Ronal > > A 210 401 06 02 > > 7-1/2Jx16 H2 > > > > You gots W210 wheels. I see. > This ebay ad claims they fit E320/E300d. > http://compare.ebay.com/96-99-mercedes-e300d-320-wheel-2104010602-16x7-5-41mm/like/190418683923 Thanks. > What does the tire placard on the door jamb say? > > What's the doorframe sticker say on it? > > Good idea! I went out in our 3 deg.F. weather and looked. It says the > same thing as the owner's manual, 195/65-15. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:34:44 -0800 Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Craig wrote: > >> The rims are: Ronal > >> A 210 401 06 02 > > You gots W210 wheels. > > An excellent upgrade for a W124 E420! The biggest complaint about the > car in the magazines when it first appeared as the 400E, IIRC, was > that the carryover wheel/tire combo from the 300E was inadequate for > the increased power of the V-8. I'd say you've got a win/win there, > Craig. There's a lot more variety available in 16" tires than in 15", > and you can always get a set of 15" 300E wheels really cheap to mount > snow tires on. Thank you for the information. I'll have to consider 15" wheels some time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:24:36 -0500 Mitch Haley wrote: > Craig wrote: > > >> Here's an H-rated tire with good snow ratings in the survey: > >> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Geolandar+A%2FT-S&partnum=36HR6GEOATS > > That first one I linked was half tongue in cheek, since it's a all > terrain truck tire. But it had an H speed rating, plenty of weight > rating, good owner survey results, and sure looked like a M+S rated > tire. Might look sort of odd on a Mercedes though. Indeed. And since it's not available in lower profiles, would probably hit my fenders, not to mention having 769 revs/mile instead of 831. > Those Yokos you have seem to be a Discount Tire exclusive, but they > advertised it as a premium all season tire. Just can't find much about > them. I did a search on YK520 and found that there is even a website dedicated to them! http://yokohamayk520.com/ They are indeed touted as snow tires, but in 225/55-16 on a '94 E420, they sure are lousy. On http://yokohamayk520.com/, if you click on "Links", you get taken to a page that has a list of "Discount Tire Miscellaneous Links," thus exposing the Discount Tire association. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Craig wrote: same thing as the owner's manual, 195/65-15. So, probably 825-830 revs per mile on the original tires. 205/55R16 would be a +1 for that size, 830-835 revs per mile, or you could go 215/55-16, 820-825 revs per mile. I'd probably choose 215/55, and somebody else obviously thought the same way. Selection on 215/55 isn't as good as 205/55, and prices are higher on the 215s for most brands. (I like to sort the whole list of tires by price, and scan for tires rated 8.0 or higher in the owner surveys) http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=215/&ratio=55&diameter=16 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=205/&ratio=55&diameter=16 The old standby Altimax is $90 or $99: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+HP&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=055HR6AMAXHP The high performance Continentals are $91 or $101, and have a longer treadwear rating than the Generals: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS&partnum=155WR6ECDWS The Goodyears are $113 and $117, with a $40 rebate on four: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assurance+ComforTred+Touring&partnum=155HR6ACTT I think those Z-rated Continentals look pretty good for the price, if made in Brazil doesn't bother you. If you want USA/Canada made, go Goodyear. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In my limited experience Joke-ohama are terrible tires. I will never have one on anything I own. I did a search on YK520 and found that there is even a website dedicated to them! http://yokohamayk520.com/ They are indeed touted as snow tires, but in 225/55-16 on a '94 E420, they sure are lousy. On http://yokohamayk520.com/, if you click on "Links", you get taken to a page that has a list of "Discount Tire Miscellaneous Links," thus exposing the Discount Tire association. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:31:36 -0500 Mitch Haley wrote: > Selection on 215/55 isn't as good as 205/55, and prices are higher on > the 215s for most brands. (I like to sort the whole list of tires by > price, and scan for tires rated 8.0 or higher in the owner surveys) > > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=215/&ratio=55&diameter=16 > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=205/&ratio=55&diameter=16 So that's how you find things quickly! Of course, you could always sort by "Reviewer's Avg Rating". When you do that, the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3 comes out on top. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Alpin+PA3&partnum=055VR6PA3XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes What do you think of those? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:24:21 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my limited experience Joke-ohama are terrible tires. I will never > have one on anything I own. They seem to run fine on dry roads, but now that winter is here, they show themselves to be inadequate. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels and two sets of tires, so I'm looking for a good, all-season tire with good winter performance. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They also have a tendency to throw the tread at highway speeds causing the inner fender liners to be torn up, and damage to the fender, trim, bumper and possibly your life, or SWMBO's, or your kid's life. On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:24:21 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: In my limited experience Joke-ohama are terrible tires. I will never have one on anything I own. They seem to run fine on dry roads, but now that winter is here, they show themselves to be inadequate. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels and two sets of tires, so I'm looking for a good, all-season tire with good winter performance. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:24:21 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: In my limited experience Joke-ohama are terrible tires. I will never have one on anything I own. They seem to run fine on dry roads, but now that winter is here, they show themselves to be inadequate. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels and two sets of tires, so I'm looking for a good, all-season tire with good winter performance. Craig __ Bought my college student grand-daughter Michelin Hydroedge for her Honda Accord summer before last. She had an uneventful winter driving during several snow storms, and she's having another, so far, this winter. Not cheap, but supposedly have good tread life. These tires had very good reports about snow driving from a number of sources. Tire Rack: Hydroedge 205-65-15 or 16... $100. Costco has Hydroedge too. http://tires.tirerack.com/tires/Michelin%20Hydroedge%20205 Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I dunno real snow tires are hard to beat. I need to pull the snows off the '83 240D and swap 'em (plus replace 2) to the '78 240D. The all seasons on it are good but a 240D with snows is a stunningly good snow car. I also need to figure out what I want to weight the 190D with. Its not performing like it should. I'm thinking 2x 5 gallon buckets full of sand in the trunk wells will fix it. I used to carry my other set of wheels/tires but that took all my trunk space. -Curt Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:38:03 -0700 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ... Message-ID: <20101231173803.802b4a92.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:24:21 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my limited experience Joke-ohama are terrible tires. I will never > have one on anything I own. They seem to run fine on dry roads, but now that winter is here, they show themselves to be inadequate. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels and two sets of tires, so I'm looking for a good, all-season tire with good winter performance. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 12/31/2010 4:22 PM, Craig wrote: I did a search on YK520 and found that there is even a website dedicated to them! http://yokohamayk520.com/ They are indeed touted as snow tires, but in 225/55-16 on a '94 E420, they sure are lousy. The M+S rating just means "all season" in a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none kind of way. Snow tires will have a "Mountain Snowflake" marking on the sidewall. Those jokos don't seem to have a lot of siping in the tread, which is where your wet and snow traction comes from, and something tells me they're pretty old; any tire over five years old won't grip worth a lick. I'm on my first winter with dedicated snow tires (Blizzak WS70) and they have changed my world. The S420 would regularly disgrace itself in snow on good all-seasons; now I have to drive like a complete jackass to get the ABS or ASR to make themselves known. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A Mercedes on Blizzaks will go through snow until it gets so deep the floor pans float the car. It is the best/safest car in all seasons, including on ice. I know there are fans of the Norske tires, but they also cost twice as much as Blizzaks. I have no experience with them. My first set of Blizzaks were still made by Metzler, before Bridgerock bought them out. My SDL with generals was terrible. Sliding all over. I put Blizzaks on the rear and it was an amazing transformation. When I was back in that town the next week, I put 2 more on the front of the SDL. Then it would go almost anywhere a snowplow truck could go. I think I paid about $200 for the set of 4. Four nor$kes will cost you $500 or more. A couple of years ago I put 4 on the E320 for my daughter. I never had to worry about her driving in the ice and snow. I think that set was $220 or 230 on the car The dodge van is really scary (like any FWD) on ice and snow with some tires. I put two of the used Blizzaks on it, and it it is no worry now. Last year the RF blizzak had no tread in the middle, but it still starts and stops on wet, ice or snow like it was on clean dry pavement. The LF has a little tread, but is probably down to the wear bars. I am just trying to see how far they will go and still start and stop well. I'm on my first winter with dedicated snow tires (Blizzak WS70) and they have changed my world. The S420 would regularly disgrace itself in snow on good all-seasons; now I have to drive like a complete jackass to get the ABS or ASR to make themselves known. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:39:17 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I was back in that town the next week, I put 2 more on the front > of the SDL. Then it would go almost anywhere a snowplow truck could > go. I think I paid about $200 for the set of 4. Four nor$kes will > cost you $500 or more. Tire Rack has 205/55R16 Blizzak WS70s for $112.00 each; that's $448 for four, plus shipping and installation (another $167.24). The stock 195/65R15 is $84.00 each, $28 less. The size does make the difference. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond writes: > I also need to figure out what I want to weight the 190D with. Its not > performing like it should. I'm thinking 2x 5 gallon buckets full of > sand in the trunk wells will fix it. I used to carry my other set of > wheels/tires but that took all my trunk space. I have two 75lb "tubes" of sand in the trunk of my 300D. Makes all the difference in the winter. Available at home improvement stores. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And if you go to the Bridgerock/firerock dealer, you can probably get a better price, installed. On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:39:17 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: When I was back in that town the next week, I put 2 more on the front of the SDL. Then it would go almost anywhere a snowplow truck could go. I think I paid about $200 for the set of 4. Four nor$kes will cost you $500 or more. Tire Rack has 205/55R16 Blizzak WS70s for $112.00 each; that's $448 for four, plus shipping and installation (another $167.24). The stock 195/65R15 is $84.00 each, $28 less. The size does make the difference. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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get the general altimax On 12/31/2010 6:38 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:24:21 -0600 Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com> wrote: In my limited experience Joke-ohama are terrible tires. I will never have one on anything I own. They seem to run fine on dry roads, but now that winter is here, they show themselves to be inadequate. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels and two sets of tires, so I'm looking for a good, all-season tire with good winter performance. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: get the general altimax Here's something intereesting. I checked with Max's new online tire vendor, Tirebuyer.com. They have very similar customer survey numbers for Altimax HP and Continental DWS, except the Altimax averages 4.0 on a scale of 1 to 5 for light snow traction, and the DWS gets 5.0. Then I found out that only one out of 93 people gave a snow rating for the DWS. I guess the other 92 people never drive in snow or hadn't owned it through a winter before reviewing it. Two out of 38 drivers both rated the Altimax at 4 in the snow. With free shipping, they had the lowest delivered price on both tires. http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/177599/page_0/7/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-1 http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/144464/page_0/4/detail_tab/Reviews/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-0 I found a more eurocentric tire review site. Their numbers are on a scale of 1-5, with one being the best. Nokian WR-G2 1.89 average, 1.6 in snow, 1165 responses. Altimax HP 1.85, 2.8 in snow, 28 respondents. Continental DWS 1.75, 2.2 in snow, only 6 respondents. The low sample size for the General and Continental still gave pretty much the end result I'd expect after seeing their Tire Rack reviews. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&rt_marke=Nokian&rt_profil=WR%20G2&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=71833942.135.18671&rt_marke=General&rt_profil=Altimax%20HP&typ=R-146593&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Quer=55&Felge=16&Speed=H&weiter=50&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=preis&Transport=P http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi&rtx_marke=Nokian&rtx_profil=WR%20G2&tid=102z116z114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've used the tubes before too but with the buckets I was thinking I could get the sand for free and have buckets which are just handy... Of course I'd need to fill the buckets and take 'em into the basement to dry by the fire for a day or so. Otherwise I can picture myself needing the sand and having a bucket frozen solid... -Curt Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 01:21:27 -0500 From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond writes: > I also need to figure out what I want to weight the 190D with. Its not > performing like it should. I'm thinking 2x 5 gallon buckets full of > sand in the trunk wells will fix it. I used to carry my other set of > wheels/tires but that took all my trunk space. I have two 75lb "tubes" of sand in the trunk of my 300D. Makes all the difference in the winter. Available at home improvement stores. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea, next time I buy tires I am going to order them from that tire buyer website, they are cheaper and have free shipping. Wonder how long that will last?? On 1/1/2011 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: get the general altimax Here's something intereesting. I checked with Max's new online tire vendor, Tirebuyer.com. They have very similar customer survey numbers for Altimax HP and Continental DWS, except the Altimax averages 4.0 on a scale of 1 to 5 for light snow traction, and the DWS gets 5.0. Then I found out that only one out of 93 people gave a snow rating for the DWS. I guess the other 92 people never drive in snow or hadn't owned it through a winter before reviewing it. Two out of 38 drivers both rated the Altimax at 4 in the snow. With free shipping, they had the lowest delivered price on both tires. http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/177599/page_0/7/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-1 http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/144464/page_0/4/detail_tab/Reviews/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-0 I found a more eurocentric tire review site. Their numbers are on a scale of 1-5, with one being the best. Nokian WR-G2 1.89 average, 1.6 in snow, 1165 responses. Altimax HP 1.85, 2.8 in snow, 28 respondents. Continental DWS 1.75, 2.2 in snow, only 6 respondents. The low sample size for the General and Continental still gave pretty much the end result I'd expect after seeing their Tire Rack reviews. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&rt_marke=Nokian&rt_profil=WR%20G2&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=71833942.135.18671&rt_marke=General&rt_profil=Altimax%20HP&typ=R-146593&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Quer=55&Felge=16&Speed=H&weiter=50&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=preis&Transport=P http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi&rtx_marke=Nokian&rtx_profil=WR%20G2&tid=102z116z114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Since Eurotire went away, I've found I can buy tires at local dealers and get them installed for less than any online price + shipping + mounting+stems+balancing. Yea, next time I buy tires I am going to order them from that tire buyer website, they are cheaper and have free shipping. Wonder how long that will last?? On 1/1/2011 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: get the general altimax Here's something intereesting. I checked with Max's new online tire vendor, Tirebuyer.com. They have very similar customer survey numbers for Altimax HP and Continental DWS, except the Altimax averages 4.0 on a scale of 1 to 5 for light snow traction, and the DWS gets 5.0. Then I found out that only one out of 93 people gave a snow rating for the DWS. I guess the other 92 people never drive in snow or hadn't owned it through a winter before reviewing it. Two out of 38 drivers both rated the Altimax at 4 in the snow. With free shipping, they had the lowest delivered price on both tires. http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/177599/page_0/7/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-1 http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/144464/page_0/4/detail_tab/Reviews/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-0 I found a more eurocentric tire review site. Their numbers are on a scale of 1-5, with one being the best. Nokian WR-G2 1.89 average, 1.6 in snow, 1165 responses. Altimax HP 1.85, 2.8 in snow, 28 respondents. Continental DWS 1.75, 2.2 in snow, only 6 respondents. The low sample size for the General and Continental still gave pretty much the end result I'd expect after seeing their Tire Rack reviews. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&rt_marke=Nokian&rt_profil=WR%20G2&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=71833942.135.18671&rt_marke=General&rt_profil=Altimax%20HP&typ=R-146593&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Quer=55&Felge=16&Speed=H&weiter=50&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=preis&Transport=P http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi&rtx_marke=Nokian&rtx_profil=WR%20G2&tid=102z116z114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
what sort of tires/brands are you buying? On 1/1/2011 9:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Since Eurotire went away, I've found I can buy tires at local dealers and get them installed for less than any online price + shipping + mounting+stems+balancing. Yea, next time I buy tires I am going to order them from that tire buyer website, they are cheaper and have free shipping. Wonder how long that will last?? On 1/1/2011 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: get the general altimax Here's something intereesting. I checked with Max's new online tire vendor, Tirebuyer.com. They have very similar customer survey numbers for Altimax HP and Continental DWS, except the Altimax averages 4.0 on a scale of 1 to 5 for light snow traction, and the DWS gets 5.0. Then I found out that only one out of 93 people gave a snow rating for the DWS. I guess the other 92 people never drive in snow or hadn't owned it through a winter before reviewing it. Two out of 38 drivers both rated the Altimax at 4 in the snow. With free shipping, they had the lowest delivered price on both tires. http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/177599/page_0/7/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-1 http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop%20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetailPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low%20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/144464/page_0/4/detail_tab/Reviews/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-0 I found a more eurocentric tire review site. Their numbers are on a scale of 1-5, with one being the best. Nokian WR-G2 1.89 average, 1.6 in snow, 1165 responses. Altimax HP 1.85, 2.8 in snow, 28 respondents. Continental DWS 1.75, 2.2 in snow, only 6 respondents. The low sample size for the General and Continental still gave pretty much the end result I'd expect after seeing their Tire Rack reviews. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&rt_marke=Nokian&rt_profil=WR%20G2&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=71833942.135.18671&rt_marke=General&rt_profil=Altimax%20HP&typ=R-146593&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Quer=55&Felge=16&Speed=H&weiter=50&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=preis&Transport=P http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi&rtx_marke=Nokian&rtx_profil=WR%20G2&tid=102z116z114 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Last tires I bought were noname from the junkyard for the van. They seem to be ok. Don't know who made them. Before that I bought mostly Bridgerock/Firerock including blizzaks and Continental. Take your best online deal (add in the shipping+mounting+stems+balancing) to the local guy and ask if he can meet or beat the price for the same tire. Generally they will. I think the 124 Blizzaks were about 230 or so installed and balanced. what sort of tires/brands are you buying? On 1/1/2011 9:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Since Eurotire went away, I've found I can buy tires at local dealers and get them installed for less than any online price + shipping + mounting+stems+balancing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ...
Opposite here in Chucktown; Local stores are more expensive, have less selection. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:40 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something about the '94 E420 ... Since Eurotire went away, I've found I can buy tires at local dealers and get them installed for less than any online price + shipping + mounting+stems+balancing. >Yea, next time I buy tires I am going to order them from that tire >buyer website, they are cheaper and have free shipping. Wonder how >long that will last?? > >On 1/1/2011 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>>get the general altimax >> >>Here's something intereesting. I checked with Max's new online tire >>vendor, Tirebuyer.com. They have very similar customer survey >>numbers for Altimax HP and Continental DWS, except the Altimax >>averages 4.0 on a scale of 1 to 5 for light snow traction, and the >>DWS gets 5.0. Then I found out that only one out of 93 people gave >>a snow rating for the DWS. I guess the other 92 people never drive >>in snow or hadn't owned it through a winter before reviewing it. >>Two out of 38 drivers both rated the Altimax at 4 in the snow. >> >>With free shipping, they had the lowest delivered price on both tires. >> >>http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop% 20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetai lPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low %20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/177599/page_0/7/wicket:p ageMapName/wicket-1 >> >>http://www.tirebuyer.com/tirebuyerwicket/home/tab/Buy%20Tires/subtab/Shop% 20by%20Tire%20Size/sortChanged/false/action/searchyBySize/selPanel/tireDetai lPanel/frontWidth/205/frontRatio/55/frontDiameter/16/tireSortBy/Priced%20Low %20To%20High/zip/87544/tireCatalogView_selectedItem/144464/page_0/4/detail_t ab/Reviews/wicket:pageMapName/wicket-0 >> >>I found a more eurocentric tire review site. Their numbers are on a >>scale of 1-5, with one being the best. >> >>Nokian WR-G2 1.89 average, 1.6 in snow, 1165 responses. >>Altimax HP 1.85, 2.8 in snow, 28 respondents. >>Continental DWS 1.75, 2.2 in snow, only 6 respondents. >>The low sample size for the General and Continental still gave >>pretty much the end result I'd expect after seeing their Tire Rack >>reviews. >> >>http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&; rt_marke=Nokian&rt_profil=WR%20G2&Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Brei te=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&sowigan=Wi >>http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=71833942.135.18671&; rt_marke=General&rt_profil=Altimax%20HP&typ=R-146593&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Qu er=55&Felge=16&Speed=H&weiter=50&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=preis& Transport=P >>http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rtest.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=67557023.135.14090&; Cookie=froogle&typ=R-146119&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=15&Speed=T&so wigan=Wi&rtx_marke=Nokian&rtx_profil=WR%20G2&tid=102z116z114 >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >-- >Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, >http://www.okiebenz.com > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
