Re: [MBZ] jackstands
The Cruze has a rather low (scrapes on some parking lot driveway approaches unless I enter at an angle) flexible air dam, so I need ramps just to change the oil. About $3 a pair at Menards. That works with the front wheels up on the concrete apron and the rear wheels in the dirt driveway, if it was sitting flat in the garage I'd probably need four and use them as jackstands.___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
On Wed, July 8, 2020 12:33 am, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > I recommend the Esco 10498 jack stands as shown in the attached picture. You're not going to have the ratchet strip out on those. Maybe a tipover failure at the higher settings if you jerk the car around, but never a ratchet failure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Northern Tool -- $109.00/ea NAPA -- $95.99/ea Amazon -- $67.99 Home Depot -- $54.95/ea (out of stock) WTH?? Craig via Mercedes writes: > On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:42:44 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Will probably be ordering some high quality jackstands. > > I recommend the Esco 10498 jack stands as shown in the attached picture. > > > Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I can think of times where I've had my head under the fender with the wheel off and the car on jackstands. I do usually throw the wheel under the car in that case as a backstop saftey measure. I've also worked under the car many times on jackstands for other things. Exhaust hangers, flex discs, transmission filters, etc. Thinking about the wood ramp idea for that kind of thing now. Do you have a long ramp for the entire car length, or do you use shorter ramps under front and back wheels separately? On this Honda I have, if I change the transmission I need to pull the front axles and drop the transmission from under the car. Need the wheels off for that, and also need to raise the car to make room to work. Sure a lift is ideal, but I can't justify the cost of a lift for the few times it'd really be nice to have. Neighbor used to have one, but he moved and sold it. Will probably be ordering some high quality jackstands. Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > True, but I’m not under the car when it’s on jackstands. I use them for > wheels off sort of stuff where I’m not under it. > > -D > >> On Jul 7, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That's good until you need to take wheels off. >> >> Allan >> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: >> >>> Or do like I do - use solid wood ramps if you have to work under the car. >>> >>> I just sandwiched progressively longer pieces of 2x12 with a bevel cut on >>> the end. Crude and heavy, for sure, but with six “layers” of wood it gets >>> the car up in the air a good 10” or so and there is no possible way it can >>> collapse. >>> >>> -D >>> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:47:50 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > My buddy is a timber framer, I got a bunch of cutoffs of 8x8s, 10x10s > and a coupla 12x12s a foot or two long that I use to support the car > most times. Some 2xs or whatever to get an extra bit if needed. Jack > it up under the engine cross member or diff then let it down on a > couple stacked to whatever height I need. Those aren't going anywhere. Indeed they are not going anywhere! One of the construction styles in Santa Fe is exposed timber, which comes from the forests north of Santa Fe. After getting the 51' trailer, I stopped by the lumber yard which provides that timber and purchased two pieces of 4x12 four feet long. I use them to hold up the back of the trailer when I have it raised to work under it. They will also be handy if I have to drop the trailer somewhere where it's muddy so the landing gear feet don't sink out of sight. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
My buddy is a timber framer, I got a bunch of cutoffs of 8x8s, 10x10s and a coupla 12x12s a foot or two long that I use to support the car most times. Some 2xs or whatever to get an extra bit if needed. Jack it up under the engine cross member or diff then let it down on a couple stacked to whatever height I need. Those aren't going anywhere. --FT On 7/7/20 3:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: True, but I’m not under the car when it’s on jackstands. I use them for wheels off sort of stuff where I’m not under it. -D On Jul 7, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: That's good until you need to take wheels off. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: Or do like I do - use solid wood ramps if you have to work under the car. I just sandwiched progressively longer pieces of 2x12 with a bevel cut on the end. Crude and heavy, for sure, but with six “layers” of wood it gets the car up in the air a good 10” or so and there is no possible way it can collapse. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
True, but I’m not under the car when it’s on jackstands. I use them for wheels off sort of stuff where I’m not under it. -D > On Jul 7, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's good until you need to take wheels off. > > Allan > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > >> Or do like I do - use solid wood ramps if you have to work under the car. >> >> I just sandwiched progressively longer pieces of 2x12 with a bevel cut on >> the end. Crude and heavy, for sure, but with six “layers” of wood it gets >> the car up in the air a good 10” or so and there is no possible way it can >> collapse. >> >> -D >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
That's good until you need to take wheels off. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > Or do like I do - use solid wood ramps if you have to work under the car. > > I just sandwiched progressively longer pieces of 2x12 with a bevel cut on the > end. Crude and heavy, for sure, but with six “layers” of wood it gets the car > up in the air a good 10” or so and there is no possible way it can collapse. > > -D > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Yes. Good solution Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 2:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Or do like I do - use solid wood ramps if you have to work under the car. > > I just sandwiched progressively longer pieces of 2x12 with a bevel cut on > the end. Crude and heavy, for sure, but with six “layers” of wood it gets > the car up in the air a good 10” or so and there is no possible way it can > collapse. > > -D > > > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Don't chance it. Get good ones. > > YMMV > > > > Dwight Giles Jr. > > Wickford RI > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Wouldn't you just re-weld the jack stands. or beef them up a bit with a > >> bit more steel welded on? > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Or do like I do - use solid wood ramps if you have to work under the car. I just sandwiched progressively longer pieces of 2x12 with a bevel cut on the end. Crude and heavy, for sure, but with six “layers” of wood it gets the car up in the air a good 10” or so and there is no possible way it can collapse. -D > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Don't chance it. Get good ones. > YMMV > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Wouldn't you just re-weld the jack stands. or beef them up a bit with a >> bit more steel welded on? >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Don't chance it. Get good ones. YMMV Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Wouldn't you just re-weld the jack stands. or beef them up a bit with a > bit more steel welded on? > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] jackstands
Wouldn't you just re-weld the jack stands. or beef them up a bit with a bit more steel welded on? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of safety, how safe are those $2000 lifts you can install in your own garage in comparison to the 6 ton jackstands? What about the pricey scissor jacks - how safe are those? This is assumng the operator will not take unreasonable or unnecessary risks. On 6/17/12, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Unrelated, the neatest jack I've seen is the air bag type of jack that they use in heavy equipment shops... On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: Its just a matter of using the right tool for the job. On my Jeep there is no room for the jack if I slip 6 ton jacks under the axle. On a Mercedes with lift points on the side, it wouldn't be much of an issue. On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I tend to think of things like that as nokill, but that's just my engineering edumacation telling me to build in some safety margin. --R On 6/17/12 2:47 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Personally I think 6 ton jackstands are overkill __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Speaking of safety, how safe are those $2000 lifts you can install in your own garage in comparison to the 6 ton jackstands? What about the pricey scissor jacks - how safe are those? This is assumng the operator will not take unreasonable or unnecessary risks. How much is your life worth? You get what you pay for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] jackstands
I saw HF has the 6 ton jackstands on sale for $40 a pair.If anyone needs stands, these are good (See the caveat below) I don't think much of their 3 ton stands or anyone else's 3 ton stands. The 6 ton have a big enough base to be stable. Only problem is that many floor jacks won't lift high enough to get the 6 ton stands under. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I never had a problem with a floor jack lifting high enough for them to work. I've just used the floor jacks you can get from Costco or Sams that cost about $50. On smaller vehicles the 6 ton jacks have such a wide base that there isn't floor space for the stands and the jack. Personally I think 6 ton jackstands are overkill unless you're working on a heavy vehicle, like a full size truck. 2-1/2 ton jack stands made eery noises supporting the front end of my my 3/4 ton truck, so I use the 6 tons only for that. On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I saw HF has the 6 ton jackstands on sale for $40 a pair.If anyone needs stands, these are good (See the caveat below) I don't think much of their 3 ton stands or anyone else's 3 ton stands. The 6 ton have a big enough base to be stable. Only problem is that many floor jacks won't lift high enough to get the 6 ton stands under. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I tend to think of things like that as nokill, but that's just my engineering edumacation telling me to build in some safety margin. --R On 6/17/12 2:47 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Personally I think 6 ton jackstands are overkill ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Well on mine my jacks will lift high enough to get to the lowest setting, then I have to let the jack down, put blocks of wood under and lift it higher. Lowering car is reverse. I really need to get rid of a bunch if cars, build a shop in the back and install a lift. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I saw HF has the 6 ton jackstands on sale for $40 a pair.If anyone needs stands, these are good (See the caveat below) I don't think much of their 3 ton stands or anyone else's 3 ton stands. The 6 ton have a big enough base to be stable. Only problem is that many floor jacks won't lift high enough to get the 6 ton stands under. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Its just a matter of using the right tool for the job. On my Jeep there is no room for the jack if I slip 6 ton jacks under the axle. On a Mercedes with lift points on the side, it wouldn't be much of an issue. On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I tend to think of things like that as nokill, but that's just my engineering edumacation telling me to build in some safety margin. --R On 6/17/12 2:47 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Personally I think 6 ton jackstands are overkill __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jackstands
Unrelated, the neatest jack I've seen is the air bag type of jack that they use in heavy equipment shops... On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: Its just a matter of using the right tool for the job. On my Jeep there is no room for the jack if I slip 6 ton jacks under the axle. On a Mercedes with lift points on the side, it wouldn't be much of an issue. On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I tend to think of things like that as nokill, but that's just my engineering edumacation telling me to build in some safety margin. --R On 6/17/12 2:47 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Personally I think 6 ton jackstands are overkill __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, reviews [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:39:15 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Yeah, the base could be a lot bigger on those, couldn't it? I didn't realize how small it was until I saw the side-by-side comparison. And it's round, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, [was Re: A Father's Letter]
I don't think the HF 3 ton jackstands are worth buying, but the HF 6 ton have a wider base and are tall enough that fully down they will keep the car off you. The highest I can jack up the car, I can only get one or two notches on the 6 tonners. I ALWAYS leave the jack under, holding some weight. IHMO, the jack is the mainstay and the jackstands are for safety backup. I also won't have a cheap jack on the place. The cheapest jack I have cost $140. It is essentially the same as one HF used to have, but may have phased out for cheaper looking ones. I really like 14 x 14 pine timbers that are 2-4 feet long. I also stack mounted tires under the car for extra safety 2bys on top of the tire to fill the gap. HF/snears/wally/kmarkt 3 ton stands are good for holding up a 1 piece 'merican pickup axle while you paint it and stuff like that. I have a set of Kmart stands that are maybe 12 years old that are much better than the HF 3 ton stands. On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:39:15 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Yeah, the base could be a lot bigger on those, couldn't it? I didn't realize how small it was until I saw the side-by-side comparison. And it's round, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, [was Re: A Father's Letter]
Dieselhead wrote: I have a set of Kmart stands that are maybe 12 years old that are much better than the HF 3 ton stands. My comments may be out of date then. My Kmart stands are from the 1980s. If the new Chinese stuff is 'much worse', I don't want it. I guess I should be glad that I have two good stands (1980's Blackhawk USA) and two decent ones (1980's Kmart China). The Blackhawks were $20 at Harbor Freight in 1986. I think the Kmarts were about $15 a couple of years later. Wish I'd bought two sets of the Blackhawks. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:02 -0500, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the HF 3 ton jackstands are worth buying, but the HF 6 ton have a wider base and are tall enough that fully down they will keep the car off you. By fully down you mean the ratchet engaged at the first notch? I'm pretty sure you're supposed to have the pawl engaged at least in the first notch and not have the saddle of the stand all the way down in contact with the base. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, [was Re: A Father's Letter]
you are right. First notch. However they are sturdy enough that if the pawl is disengaged, and the load slams down with nothing engaged, they will still hold the load of a car. one corner is maybe 1000 to 2000 lb in the worst case. (HF 6 ton jackstands) On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:02 -0500, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the HF 3 ton jackstands are worth buying, but the HF 6 ton have a wider base and are tall enough that fully down they will keep the car off you. By fully down you mean the ratchet engaged at the first notch? I'm pretty sure you're supposed to have the pawl engaged at least in the first notch and not have the saddle of the stand all the way down in contact with the base. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, [was Re: A Father's Letter]
I have sometimes encountered a problem with the stand base being in the way. If I try to keep the saddle where I want it, the base bumps into the brake backing plate. So bigger bases maybe offer stability but not if you have to put the stand in further than you want to. Some of you will likely say I should put the stand under the frame rather than the rear axle but that usually means I have to extend the jack stand higher and I prefer to keep it as low as I can too. Randy On 25/03/2011 10:02 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I don't think the HF 3 ton jackstands are worth buying, but the HF 6 ton have a wider base and are tall enough that fully down they will keep the car off you. The highest I can jack up the car, I can only get one or two notches on the 6 tonners. I ALWAYS leave the jack under, holding some weight. IHMO, the jack is the mainstay and the jackstands are for safety backup. I also won't have a cheap jack on the place. The cheapest jack I have cost $140. It is essentially the same as one HF used to have, but may have phased out for cheaper looking ones. I really like 14 x 14 pine timbers that are 2-4 feet long. I also stack mounted tires under the car for extra safety 2bys on top of the tire to fill the gap. HF/snears/wally/kmarkt 3 ton stands are good for holding up a 1 piece 'merican pickup axle while you paint it and stuff like that. I have a set of Kmart stands that are maybe 12 years old that are much better than the HF 3 ton stands. On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:39:15 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Yeah, the base could be a lot bigger on those, couldn't it? I didn't realize how small it was until I saw the side-by-side comparison. And it's round, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, reviews [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I don't trust the steel pinned stands any more than the cast ratcheting ones, the steel is usually a bit thin and I've seen the pin shearing its way through a tube. I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://tinyurl.com/4buwvc4 Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Seems to me 3/8 aluminum would be a little less likely to suffer the same fate... Collapsing downward is not the only failure mode. Craig ___ Gerry wrote: The jackstands I have are Larin JS-4 4 ton from Autozone. I paid about $30 per pair. They are now available from Amazon. Question: If Christian had been using the pin type jackstands, would he have been crushed? Here is another users opinion: I've had good luck with Larin and Duralast jackstands (bought the Larins at AutoZone prior to them going to their house brand, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're the same thing). I don't like the ratchet-style jack stands. They scare me. Probably an unfounded fear, but I just don't care for them at all. I've got a pair of Larin 4-ton (model JS-4) that have a large hefty pin/bolt that goes through to hold them up (cotter pin on the end to prevent slide when unloaded)snip http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74433 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jackstands
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0529.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0533.jpg What do you think of these support systems Posted in bimmerforums by Potenzain response to the death of Christian Klocyzk in Waterford, CT. Not too bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands
toms cat1 wrote: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0529.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0533.jpg What do you think of these support systems Posted in bimmerforums by Potenzain response to the death of Christian Klocyzk in Waterford, CT. Heavy but solid. 10' 2x12 runs about $12-14 IIRC. Cut it in 7 pieces and stack it up with a few nails, should be just over 10 high. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands
What happened to Christian is really sad... over the past few years I've been thinking more and more about the risks I take crawling under a car in my driveway, even when using jack stands and a jack as backup. After reading about Christian, I think more than ever, I really need a professional lift... Jaime On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:56 PM, toms cat1 tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0529.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0533.jpg What do you think of these support systems Posted in bimmerforums by Potenzain response to the death of Christian Klocyzk in Waterford, CT. Not too bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands
I don't think a lift is necessarily safer than jackstands. Cars have been known to fall off lifts too. Good jackstands, placed properly, should be quite safe. Certainly a real lift would make a lot of jobs easier and faster though and less time under the car would I guess be less risk. Allan Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com writes: What happened to Christian is really sad... over the past few years I've been thinking more and more about the risks I take crawling under a car in my driveway, even when using jack stands and a jack as backup. After reading about Christian, I think more than ever, I really need a professional lift... Jaime -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands
Until you wanna take the wheels off. Hendrik toms cat1 wrote: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0529.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0533.jpg What do you think of these support systems Posted in bimmerforums by Potenzain response to the death of Christian Klocyzk in Waterford, CT. Not too bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands
A lift is still only as safe as the operator of it is, so I get a bit paranoid about the safety... I un-load the suspension, lift a foot off the ground, then literally try to shake it off the lift. If it moves too much, the arms are positioned again, even if it means ignoring the factory lift points for more stable ones. If it's off-balance, lead ingots bring it back. Only when it's solid and balanced does it go any higher. Walt On Mar 25, 2011 10:29 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: What happened to Christian is really sad... over the past few years I've been thinking more and more about the risks I take crawling under a car in my driveway, even when using jack stands and a jack as backup. After reading about Christian, I think more than ever, I really need a professional lift... Jaime On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:56 PM, toms cat1 tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0529.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/TKDJimi/IMG_0533.jpg What do you think of these support systems Posted in bimmerforums by Potenzain response to the death of Christian Klocyzk in Waterford, CT. Not too bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jackstands, reviews [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:47:38 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I don't trust the steel pinned stands any more than the cast ratcheting ones, the steel is usually a bit thin and I've seen the pin shearing its way through a tube. I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://tinyurl.com/4buwvc4 Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Seems to me 3/8 aluminum would be a little less likely to suffer the same fate... Collapsing downward is not the only failure mode. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, reviews [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:47:38 -0700 Alex Chamberlain I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://tinyurl.com/4buwvc4 Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Yeah, the base could be a lot bigger on those, couldn't it? I didn't realize how small it was until I saw the side-by-side comparison. Collapsing downward is not the only failure mode. Of course not! That's why I use the Escos with their HUGE base. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
