Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
Eh, maybe when the wastewater plant goes septic again I'll get some attention. Very frustrating, especially since I like my boss, but he may get fired if things go bad again! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
I'm working as a consulting chemist at Sabic Plastics (used to be GE plastics) in Mt. Vernon, IN, just down the road from Evansville. My father worked at Internationl Harvester, later Whirlpool at their plant on highway 41, where they made refigerators until last year when they moved all production to Mexico. We've lost about 50,000 jobs to "globalization" (aka chasing low wages and crap products). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
I'm glad someone thinks I'm right, at the moment at work I seen to be howling alone in the wilderness and things to to h...l. Peter You are just fine! You ARE right! Its all the other idiots, and the rest of the world that are nuts! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
Yes it came from Rusty, I think brand name was Elring. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >>They are not included. >>-- >>Max Dillon >>Charleston SC >>'95 E300 >>'87 300TD > >Do you know what brand/Part number head set you got? Did it come from >Rusty? > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
From: "Peter Frederick" I'm glad someone thinks I'm right, at the moment at work I seen to be howling alone in the wilderness and things to to h...l. Peter What kind of work do you do, Peter? My long dead cousin was VP of SIG&E and there was quite a bit of industry in Evansville back then, although I've heard that much of it has moved or went out of business. He ran the gas division and was always promoting (Servel?) refrigerators that were manufactured there and ran on gas. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
And things are going to heck. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
I'm glad someone thinks I'm right, at the moment at work I seen to be howling alone in the wilderness and things to to h...l. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
They are not included. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Do you know what brand/Part number head set you got? Did it come from Rusty? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
I know on the 617 engines they are seals, I thought on the 603's they were spacers. I will go ahead and order 4 and fix the leaking ones. -Rolf On 11/28/2012 8:31 AM, Max Dillon wrote: They are not included. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
They are not included. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>Those are seals, and you must use new ones. > >As usual, Peter is right. Those are not spacers, they are seals. If >you take out the prechambers, you need new seals. They should have >been in the head gasket set. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
Those are seals, and you must use new ones. As usual, Peter is right. Those are not spacers, they are seals. If you take out the prechambers, you need new seals. They should have been in the head gasket set. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
On 11/27/2012 7:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: If you moved pre-chambers from a 14 head, then I think machining is required on the pre-chamber so they will fully seat. Hopefully someone who has btdt will chime in. Nay it was 22 prechambers. Ill get a set and go from there. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
-Original Message- >From: Craig >Sent: Nov 27, 2012 7:19 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603. > Those are seals, and you must use new ones. However, the prechambers from an earlier head will often not seat properly in a #22 head because the new ones are shaped a bit different. The taper where the large diameter first starts to taper down is narrower in the new pre-chambers. Old style ones usually need to be machined down at a 45 degree angle a tad to fit. Or you can buy new ones and injectors for $600 a hole or so (not). Use some plastigauge to check -- a tiny bit on the seal must be squeezed completely out when you lightly tighten the retainer ring. If it is not, they will leak, and you have to either machine the head or the prechambers. Peter >On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:21:41 -0500 Rolf wrote: > >> They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? > >They are not just spacer rings; you must renew them. > > >Craig > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:21:41 -0500 Rolf wrote: > They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? They are not just spacer rings; you must renew them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
Perhaps comparing 22 pre-chamber to a 14 pre-chamber will reveal the difference. I think the place that needs to be cut down is the shoulder transition from the nipple to the base of the pre-chamber. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Max Dillon wrote: >If you moved pre-chambers from a 14 head, then I think machining is >required on the pre-chamber so they will fully seat. > >Hopefully someone who has btdt will chime in. >-- >Max Dillon >Charleston SC >'95 E300 >'87 300TD > >Rolf wrote: > >>#4 was leaking so bad today it was going pfft pfft pfft I could hear >>it. >>Temporarily I removed the injector and prechamber and seated it a bit >>better. It still bubbles. Checked on the rest 2-5 are bubbling (4 is >>still much more). I was pretty careful to make sure that the seats >were >> >>nice and clean when I put the prechambers back in. They already had >>spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? >> >>-Rolf >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
If you moved pre-chambers from a 14 head, then I think machining is required on the pre-chamber so they will fully seat. Hopefully someone who has btdt will chime in. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rolf wrote: >#4 was leaking so bad today it was going pfft pfft pfft I could hear >it. >Temporarily I removed the injector and prechamber and seated it a bit >better. It still bubbles. Checked on the rest 2-5 are bubbling (4 is >still much more). I was pretty careful to make sure that the seats were > >nice and clean when I put the prechambers back in. They already had >spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? > >-Rolf > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
#4 was leaking so bad today it was going pfft pfft pfft I could hear it. Temporarily I removed the injector and prechamber and seated it a bit better. It still bubbles. Checked on the rest 2-5 are bubbling (4 is still much more). I was pretty careful to make sure that the seats were nice and clean when I put the prechambers back in. They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
