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Thanks, Dan! I am happy about it. I am going to sell my current 7 series. I have a feeling it might take a while. Not that many folks are interested in a 15 year old BMW with 217,000 miles. As far as pictures, sure I can send some. They are the pictures from the seller's listing. I'm hoping when it gets here that I will have a weekend to do some Martha Stewart detailing. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:18 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car! was RE: Car Search Congrats, Donald, glad you found something you like. Sounds like a nice example. So what are you doing with your existing 740? As I opined earlier today, I think part of my problem is my past luck in finding nice, well kept examples cheap. As I expand my search I'm finding that the decent ones are north of $5,000, more than I had been previously considering. Looks like it's time to open the wallet and accept that the ones I have were anomalies due to luck or circumstance. There are two what appear to be nice prospects I'll be looking at this weekend. Maybe I'll get lucky as well. If not, I'm sure the right car will eventually come my way. Pictures? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > > Dan wrote: "I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is > out the window. I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and > Charleston. If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch. Sadly, the initial > searches yielded pretty much nothing. I'm still at a loss to figure out why > W140s are so hard to find..." > > I feel your pain! I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just > like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold! Yesterday > I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for > 8 years and the second for 6 years. The seller has only put on 25,000 in the > last 6 years. During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at > the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING. Poor guy. > > Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an > enclosed trailer. I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to > my previous cars). My current BMW has 217,000 miles. > > Don Snook > 2000 BMW 740iL 217K > 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) > 2001 BMW 740iL (in transit) > > > > > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: New E382.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 568049 bytes Desc: New E382.jpg URL: <http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150319/5e14c273/attachment.jpg> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: New E383.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 337645 bytes Desc: New E383.jpg URL: <http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150319/5e14c273/attachment-0001.jpg> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: New E384.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 441974 bytes Desc: New E384.jpg URL: <http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150319/5e14c273/attachment-0002.jpg> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Congrats, Donald, glad you found something you like. Sounds like a nice example. So what are you doing with your existing 740? As I opined earlier today, I think part of my problem is my past luck in finding nice, well kept examples cheap. As I expand my search I'm finding that the decent ones are north of $5,000, more than I had been previously considering. Looks like it's time to open the wallet and accept that the ones I have were anomalies due to luck or circumstance. There are two what appear to be nice prospects I'll be looking at this weekend. Maybe I'll get lucky as well. If not, I'm sure the right car will eventually come my way. Pictures? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > > Dan wrote: "I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is > out the window. I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and > Charleston. If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch. Sadly, the initial > searches yielded pretty much nothing. I'm still at a loss to figure out why > W140s are so hard to find..." > > I feel your pain! I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just > like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold! Yesterday > I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for > 8 years and the second for 6 years. The seller has only put on 25,000 in the > last 6 years. During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at > the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING. Poor guy. > > Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an > enclosed trailer. I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to > my previous cars). My current BMW has 217,000 miles. > > Don Snook > 2000 BMW 740iL 217K > 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) > 2001 BMW 740iL (in transit) > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would have bought a 140 (97-99). But, like Dan they are very hard to find. When I did find one they were either turds or they wanted WAY too much for them. Plus, I have really enjoyed my current 7 series. I think the 98-2001 Bmw is the best one they made. They fit me well and look good. On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Why a BMW? Mechanics say they "break", unlike MErcedes. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: Dan wrote: "I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is out the window. I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and Charleston. If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch. Sadly, the initial searches yielded pretty much nothing. I'm still at a loss to figure out why W140s are so hard to find..." I feel your pain! I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold! Yesterday I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for 8 years and the second for 6 years. The seller has only put on 25,000 in the last 6 years. During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING. Poor guy. Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an enclosed trailer. I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to my previous cars). My current BMW has 217,000 miles. Don Snook 2000 BMW 740iL 217K 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) 2001 BMW 740iL (in transit) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Why a BMW? Mechanics say they "break", unlike MErcedes. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan wrote: "I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 > is out the window. I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and > Charleston. If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch. Sadly, the initial > searches yielded pretty much nothing. I'm still at a loss to figure out > why W140s are so hard to find..." > > I feel your pain! I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class > (just like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold! > Yesterday I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The > first had it for 8 years and the second for 6 years. The seller has only > put on 25,000 in the last 6 years. During that time he also had the > 100,000 mile service done at the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING. Poor > guy. > > Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an > enclosed trailer. I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to > my previous cars). My current BMW has 217,000 miles. > > Don Snook > 2000 BMW 740iL 217K > 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) > 2001 BMW 740iL (in transit) > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan wrote: "I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is out the window. I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and Charleston. If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch. Sadly, the initial searches yielded pretty much nothing. I'm still at a loss to figure out why W140s are so hard to find..." I feel your pain! I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold! Yesterday I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for 8 years and the second for 6 years. The seller has only put on 25,000 in the last 6 years. During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING. Poor guy. Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an enclosed trailer. I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to my previous cars). My current BMW has 217,000 miles. Don Snook 2000 BMW 740iL 217K 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) 2001 BMW 740iL (in transit) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tom wrote: > Don is in tall cotton if his new BMW is... Where ya been hidin' Tom. Great to have you input here again. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There've been lots of ads... I think you'll find its a 335d -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:40:05 -0400 From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii andrew strasfogel writes: > My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel. Accelerates from 0 to 60 in > about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg. Here? I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Looks like an amazing car. But, its over $100K, so I think I'll wait till he > trades it in. > > Donald H. Snook Oh come on now. You're a partner now. Nice new (to you) big house, you even have a new tax deduction! Stimulate the economy and live a little. Park a new hybrid Beemer in the driveway and be the envy of all your neighbors. Rick With tongue planted firmly in cheek. :^) BTW congratulations on ALL of the aforementioned items, especially the son. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > andrew strasfogel writes: > >> My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel. Accelerates from 0 to 60 in >> about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg. > > Here? I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US. > http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Uniquely/BMWEfficientDynamics/ExploreAdvancedDiesel.aspx Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh yeah they are, but only sedans. Competes with the Mercedes E class Bluetec. I was told the exhaust is clear and smells faintly of urea, which is used to clean the gases. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > andrew strasfogel writes: > > > My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel. Accelerates from 0 to 60 in > > about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg. > > Here? I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel writes: > My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel. Accelerates from 0 to 60 in > about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg. Here? I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel. Accelerates from 0 to 60 in about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > Kevin wrote: "My neighbor, Tom, has this exact car and loves it! He's > poured money into > it to make it right, even a total active/hydraulic suspension rebuild. He > had the water pump seize, $1500 to make it whole again. He says I should > give up my Mercedes addiction and get a Bimmer." > > I wouldn't advise you to give up Mercedes addiction. Mercedes are great > cars - if you know what to buy and if they have been taken care of. I am > learning that BMW's can also be great cars if you know what to buy and IF > they have been taken care of. > > The previous owner of my car responded to an email I sent to him. He is a > good advertisement for BMW 7 series. He has been driving them for 23 years. > He had a 1989 7 series, then my car, and he just bought a new "BWM 7 Series > Active Hybrid." I didn't know what that was. So, I looked it up. It's a 7 > series Hybrid with a turbo V8 putting out 455 horsepower and getting 27 mpg. > Looks like an amazing car. But, its over $100K, so I think I'll wait till > he trades it in. > > Donald H. Snook > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kevin wrote: "My neighbor, Tom, has this exact car and loves it! He's poured money into it to make it right, even a total active/hydraulic suspension rebuild. He had the water pump seize, $1500 to make it whole again. He says I should give up my Mercedes addiction and get a Bimmer." I wouldn't advise you to give up Mercedes addiction. Mercedes are great cars - if you know what to buy and if they have been taken care of. I am learning that BMW's can also be great cars if you know what to buy and IF they have been taken care of. The previous owner of my car responded to an email I sent to him. He is a good advertisement for BMW 7 series. He has been driving them for 23 years. He had a 1989 7 series, then my car, and he just bought a new "BWM 7 Series Active Hybrid." I didn't know what that was. So, I looked it up. It's a 7 series Hybrid with a turbo V8 putting out 455 horsepower and getting 27 mpg. Looks like an amazing car. But, its over $100K, so I think I'll wait till he trades it in. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think there is plenty of anecdotal information as well as direct examples of the issues with the V12 models. It can also be explained by the limited number of them that are out there. If they had any semblance of reliability you would see a lot more of them around, and the values would be significantly higher Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Donald Snook wrote: > >> This is the perfect example of the myths about how bad the 140 is. I had >> bought into the idea that the 140 was a money pit. I'm glad to hear its not >> always true. I think the same can be said about the 7 series BMW's. > > I think there's still good reason to stay away from the V12s in both. > Otherwise I wouldn't have seen a 750iL advertised locally for $2000 in 1996. > I'm sooo glad I didn't buy it. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook wrote: This is the perfect example of the myths about how bad the 140 is. I had bought into the idea that the 140 was a money pit. I'm glad to hear its not always true. I think the same can be said about the 7 series BMW's. I think there's still good reason to stay away from the V12s in both. Otherwise I wouldn't have seen a 750iL advertised locally for $2000 in 1996. I'm sooo glad I didn't buy it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tom wrote: "Don is in tall cotton if his new BMW is as unreliable as my 140 has been. Which is to say, if it is as reliable as my old 123 was. A good 140 is at least as reliable as a good 300D from a "starts every time and never fails to proceed" daily driver standpoint and is infinitely better from an "I don't have to fix the door locks with a golf tee and the climate control system simply WORKS without ever having to even change the temperature setting with the seasons" component reliability standpoint. 206,000 miles, original evaporator, original "sealed" transmission, original ball joints(!) have zero play. All cars should be so good." This is the perfect example of the myths about how bad the 140 is. I had bought into the idea that the 140 was a money pit. I'm glad to hear its not always true. I think the same can be said about the 7 series BMW's. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Allan wrote: "You have some kind of luck. I am amazed how you stumble into these cars." Its better to be lucky than good. Actually, I usually spend quite a bit of time trying to find the right car. I had searched for 7 series BMW's for quite a while. I also looked at 5-6 of them. I communicated with 4 sellers of them on ebay before settling on this one. I'm not claiming that I knew the service history of this car before I bought it. BUT, I operate under the assumption that if a luxury car is in very good cosmetic shape then the owner has been equally diligent about mechanical condition. I probably miss out on some really great cars in terms of their mechanical condition because some people just don't care about cosmetic issues. AND I might get burned one day by a car that is excellent cosmetic shape and has been neglected on maintenance. BUT, I think with cars that originally cost a lot of money, the owners who take care of the cosmetic issues also take care of the maintenance. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anal-ness is a great quality in a PO! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:36:24 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car! Peter wrote: "I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 "convenience relay" box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at the dealer to "reprogram" them. Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. I hope it's a long time before you have trouble! These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty." WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just replaced my battery at my indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge. I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing the battery. Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken about the cost of these repairs. The reliability went up fairly dramatically after the 97 model year. By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car. He knew the car. He knows the previous owner. The guy took exceptional care of the car. Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at every oil change. All work from new was done at the dealer. Including the Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs. At this inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the following: Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things. So, Im pretty happy with the car. The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My neighbor, Tom, has this exact car and loves it! He's poured money into it to make it right, even a total active/hydraulic suspension rebuild. He had the water pump seize, $1500 to make it whole again. He says I should give up my Mercedes addiction and get a Bimmer. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR -Original Message- From: Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car! Donald Snook writes: By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car. He knew the car. He knows the previous owner. The guy took exceptional care of the car. Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at every oil change. All work from new was done at the dealer. Including the Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs. At this inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the following: Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things. So, Im pretty happy with the car. The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done. You have some kind of luck. I am amazed how you stumble into these cars. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 7/19/2011 9:04 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty. Don is in tall cotton if his new BMW is as unreliable as my 140 has been. Which is to say, if it is as reliable as my old 123 was. A good 140 is at least as reliable as a good 300D from a "starts every time and never fails to proceed" daily driver standpoint and is infinitely better from an "I don't have to fix the door locks with a golf tee and the climate control system simply WORKS without ever having to even change the temperature setting with the seasons" component reliability standpoint. 206,000 miles, original evaporator, original "sealed" transmission, original ball joints(!) have zero play. All cars should be so good. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook writes: > By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car. He knew > the car. He knows the previous owner. The guy took exceptional care > of the car. Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the > radiator cap replaced at every oil change. All work from new was done > at the dealer. Including the Inspection II that was done less than > 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200 > plus anything things that it needs. At this inspection, the > dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the > following: > > Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power > steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, > and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things. So, > Im pretty happy with the car. The previous owner was very anal and > everything has been done. You have some kind of luck. I am amazed how you stumble into these cars. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 19/07/2011 4:36 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Peter wrote: "I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 "convenience relay" box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at the dealer to "reprogram" them. Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. I hope it's a long time before you have trouble! These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty." WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just replaced my battery at my indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge. I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing the battery. Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken about the cost of these repairs. The reliability went up fairly dramatically after the 97 model year. By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car. He knew the car. He knows the previous owner. The guy took exceptional care of the car. Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at every oil change. All work from new was done at the dealer. Including the Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs. At this inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the following: Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things. So, Im pretty happy with the car. The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done. Donald H. Snook Don't worry. You will be fine so long as nothing breaks. Even if it does, you cannot be into the car for all that much. Sell it for scrap, walk away and call it depreciation. Wouldn't be any worse than on a new car of some other sort. AND we all know you won't keep it 6 months anyway so what are the odds of any big items going. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex wrote: "I know BMWs, like all German cars, are notorious for hatching electrical gremlins as they age, but I'm still surprised to hear that. Generally the BMW aluminum V-8s have had a great reputation (once they worked out the issue with the self-destructing Nikasil blocks early on). Nothing like the timing chain problems in the 3.8 liter Mercedes, or the Audi V-8 that was made of two VW GTI 16-valve fours joined at the crank and was more troublesome than either would have been separately." It kind of depends on the audience you are speaking to. The BMW guys all tell horror stories about Mercedes being outrageous and expensive to repair and drive. I think a lot of the stories are urban legends or are at least VERY rare. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter wrote: "I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 "convenience relay" box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at the dealer to "reprogram" them. Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. I hope it's a long time before you have trouble! These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty." WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just replaced my battery at my indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge. I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing the battery. Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken about the cost of these repairs. The reliability went up fairly dramatically after the 97 model year. By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car. He knew the car. He knows the previous owner. The guy took exceptional care of the car. Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at every oil change. All work from new was done at the dealer. Including the Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs. At this inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the following: Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things. So, Im pretty happy with the car. The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent > no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached > from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. > > I know BMWs, like all German cars, are notorious for hatching electrical gremlins as they age, but I'm still surprised to hear that. Generally the BMW aluminum V-8s have had a great reputation (once they worked out the issue with the self-destructing Nikasil blocks early on). Nothing like the timing chain problems in the 3.8 liter Mercedes, or the Audi V-8 that was made of two VW GTI 16-valve fours joined at the crank and was more troublesome than either would have been separately. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 "convenience relay" box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at the dealer to "reprogram" them. Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. I hope it's a long time before you have trouble! These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty. Peter -Original Message- >From: Donald Snook >Sent: Jul 19, 2011 8:34 AM >To: "Mercedes@okiebenz.com" >Subject: [MBZ] My new car! > >I am the proud new owner of a 2000 BMW 740iL. This car is really amazing. I >have not driven an S Class of similar vintage. But, having driven and enjoyed >this car for a few days, I am really impressed. I had a previous 7 series. >But, this car is so much more refined and capable than that previous car. I >don't know if it is just because it is 5 years newer or because of all the >extra luxury touches or if it is just because the owner really took care of >it. The suspension is amazing. The engine is amazing. I am really enjoying >this car. > >It is black and it is going to be a pain to keep clean. But, I sure do like >it. > >Craig from Los Alamos also has a new car! > >Donald H. Snook >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook wrote: Craig from Los Alamos also has a new car! Is Craig keeping the W124 V-8 and the 240D I-5? Might be time for a larger garage. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am the proud new owner of a 2000 BMW 740iL. This car is really amazing. I have not driven an S Class of similar vintage. But, having driven and enjoyed this car for a few days, I am really impressed. I had a previous 7 series. But, this car is so much more refined and capable than that previous car. I don't know if it is just because it is 5 years newer or because of all the extra luxury touches or if it is just because the owner really took care of it. The suspension is amazing. The engine is amazing. I am really enjoying this car. It is black and it is going to be a pain to keep clean. But, I sure do like it. Craig from Los Alamos also has a new car! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D. I just picked it up from > the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and front > suspension over the last year. It is like driving a new car! it is finally > what a 124 was supposed to be. Amen to that. When I had my '87 300D's suspension completely rebuilt by my indy I was utterly amazed. The rear end , especially, is an engineering masterpeice---I've never driven another car that keeps the rear tires so well-planted under any conditions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sure is. Sooner or later I'll have a decent car again. Still, I'd rather have a smashed Benz that a smashed me -- my brother said the car was 200 ft from the intersection! Of course, is was still running and I don't know how long it drove before I got it stopped. I didn't black out, I don't think, but it took a second or two to realize I was rolling. Peter -Original Message- >From: Mitch Haley >Sent: Apr 13, 2010 5:49 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] my new car! > >Peter Frederick wrote: >> If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from >> doing the font end, I need to get busy! >> >> I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, >> and steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear >> subframe moving around and the torque links clunking > >Hey, Peter, is this the car that you're rebuilding into a good car after >having >a perfectly good one bent into a horseshoe? > >Mitch. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Frederick wrote: If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from doing the font end, I need to get busy! I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, and steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear subframe moving around and the torque links clunking Hey, Peter, is this the car that you're rebuilding into a good car after having a perfectly good one bent into a horseshoe? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On mine, the rear was the big problem, it had way busted subframe mounts, and bad links. It was only after that was fixed that i figured out the front end had problems. The new rear subframe mounts were the single biggest improvement. It never ends, that is for sure. If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from doing the font end, I need to get busy! Seriously, I only need a few more bits and I'm ready for the whole thing, once we get the engine back together and installed in my brother's SDL (the one that got a fractured oil pan and spun rod bearing). It never ends! I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, and steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear subframe moving around and the torque links clunking Peter -Original Message- From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Apr 12, 2010 9:10 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] my new car! Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D. I just picked it up from the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and front suspension over the last year. It is like driving a new car! it is finally what a 124 was supposed to be. The biggest single difference was probably the rear subframe mounts. Ok, it is really not a new car, and I actually bought it 4 years ago, but it was seriously neglected. As I reconstructed its past, it was sold new at Autohaus Dallas, then went through the Dallas charity sale that Rich used to post on here. Some guy in Memphis shipped it there, put a new battery in it and put it on fleabay. I bought it off fleabay, and it was worse than described, so it has been a long haul getting it decent. I paid too much for it, but it is smoke silver with burgundy interior, and that is the only combination I ever got attached to other than NOT black and NOT white... Anyhow, it drives great! light and agile, but stable! It may be the best handling 124 I have ever driven. It is the only one that i had to go through all the suspension. Now the SDL needs ball joints and steering idler bushings... I'd highly recommend doing all the rear and the subframe mounts at once, and all the front end at once. Time and other resources didn't allow me to do it all in once, but it is finally ready for the road! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from doing the font end, I need to get busy! Seriously, I only need a few more bits and I'm ready for the whole thing, once we get the engine back together and installed in my brother's SDL (the one that got a fractured oil pan and spun rod bearing). It never ends! I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, and steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear subframe moving around and the torque links clunking Peter -Original Message- >From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >Sent: Apr 12, 2010 9:10 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] my new car! > >Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D. I just picked it up >from the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and >front suspension over the last year. It is like driving a new car! >it is finally what a 124 was supposed to be. The biggest single >difference was probably the rear subframe mounts. > >Ok, it is really not a new car, and I actually bought it 4 years ago, >but it was seriously neglected. As I reconstructed its past, it was >sold new at Autohaus Dallas, then went through the Dallas charity >sale that Rich used to post on here. Some guy in Memphis shipped it >there, put a new battery in it and put it on fleabay. I bought it >off fleabay, and it was worse than described, so it has been a long >haul getting it decent. I paid too much for it, but it is smoke >silver with burgundy interior, and that is the only combination I >ever got attached to other than NOT black and NOT white... > >Anyhow, it drives great! light and agile, but stable! It may be the >best handling 124 I have ever driven. It is the only one that i had >to go through all the suspension. > >Now the SDL needs ball joints and steering idler bushings... > >I'd highly recommend doing all the rear and the subframe mounts at >once, and all the front end at once. Time and other resources didn't >allow me to do it all in once, but it is finally ready for the road! > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D. I just picked it up from the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and front suspension over the last year. It is like driving a new car! it is finally what a 124 was supposed to be. The biggest single difference was probably the rear subframe mounts. Ok, it is really not a new car, and I actually bought it 4 years ago, but it was seriously neglected. As I reconstructed its past, it was sold new at Autohaus Dallas, then went through the Dallas charity sale that Rich used to post on here. Some guy in Memphis shipped it there, put a new battery in it and put it on fleabay. I bought it off fleabay, and it was worse than described, so it has been a long haul getting it decent. I paid too much for it, but it is smoke silver with burgundy interior, and that is the only combination I ever got attached to other than NOT black and NOT white... Anyhow, it drives great! light and agile, but stable! It may be the best handling 124 I have ever driven. It is the only one that i had to go through all the suspension. Now the SDL needs ball joints and steering idler bushings... I'd highly recommend doing all the rear and the subframe mounts at once, and all the front end at once. Time and other resources didn't allow me to do it all in once, but it is finally ready for the road! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I'll be passing everyone else. --R Hans Neureiter wrote: I can see you going down Katy freeway in rush hour. On 5/3/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure if it will pass inspection. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/05/spider_car.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I can see you going down Katy freeway in rush hour. On 5/3/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure if it will pass inspection. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/05/spider_car.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Not sure if it will pass inspection. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/05/spider_car.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890