[MBZ] OT Vista

2009-02-27 Thread Douglas
I know that there has been lots and lots of negative comments for Vista. I have 
to say that I have used Vista Ultimate lately and have found it to be a 
pleasure. I recently dl'd the Windows 7 trial and found that it works also. 

Now what I am running it on may be the difference, its a Phenon 9550 with a 
9800GT video card and 6 gigs of ram. Though it works rather well and have never 
had it stall, burb or anything. 

Douglas
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Douglas
I think that alot of MS problem with Vista stems from when it came out there 
were many computer users that had less that 2 gig of RAM installed in them 
that were trying to use Vista.


From what I have noticed with 2-4 gigs of ram on a decent cpu and video card 
it seems to run fine. Though I have not used it myself! Though I do know 
that microsoft is not going to support XP very much longer.
Which is the reason I have been slowly looking into what I am going to be 
using when they stop XP


Douglas


Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has 
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features 
it has etc.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread E M
I use Vista on a new computer with 2 gb or RAM.  It does seem to be very RAM
hungry, and also takes a fair bit of space on the HD.  Having said that,
almost all my previous computers were Macs, so I'm newish to PCs.  Seems to
work ok, other than is seems rather inefficient in how works.

A friend bought a new pc last week, and they are now offering XP as a option
downgrade, which they swore a year ago there was no way.  I think MS might
keep XP on offer, until a new verion of Vista comes out, or a replacement.

Whether Vista is as bad as most say or not, I don't know, I'm not a techie
guy.  I know it's been given the death kiss by the public, so whether it's
wise to keep trying to market something that most think is crap, might be
good money after bad.

Ed
300E

2008/11/22 Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think that alot of MS problem with Vista stems from when it came out
 there were many computer users that had less that 2 gig of RAM installed in
 them that were trying to use Vista.

  From what I have noticed with 2-4 gigs of ram on a decent cpu and video
 card

 it seems to run fine. Though I have not used it myself! Though I do know
 that microsoft is not going to support XP very much longer.
 Which is the reason I have been slowly looking into what I am going to be
 using when they stop XP

 Douglas


  Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
 multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features it
 has etc.
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Allan Streib
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Whether Vista is as bad as most say or not, I don't know, I'm not a
 techie guy.  I know it's been given the death kiss by the public, so
 whether it's wise to keep trying to market something that most think
 is crap, might be good money after bad.

The last time I heard about the next (post-Vista) version it was being
called Windows 7 and the story was they were going to basically go
through the kernel with a broom and dustpan and really strip it down and
optimize it, and make a lot of the eye-candy stuff optional.

Now I'm hearing that will NOT happen and it's just going to be more of
the same bloated crapware.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Luther
Gary, this is Kaleb we're listening here.  I'd guess he has about 5% 
reason between his ears...


Luther

Gary Hurst wrote:

haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that it is
bad for you and you should give it up?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  

Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features it
has etc.
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Gary Hurst
i understand that it is sometimes just practical to use the microsoft OS.  i
have some vendors who have systems of communicating with their inventories
that simply will not work on anything other than the MS OS.  if i want to
know if there is a certain bilstein shock in a warehouse near you and don't
want to wait on hold for 20 minutes, i have to run MS.  (no, wonko, your
wine emulation/virtualizations don't really work).  sometimes you are just
stuck.

but kleb makes no sense at all.

1.  what does he need run that can't be run off a non-ms OS?
2.  what does he need to run that can't be run on XP but only on Vista?

as downloading porn and emails does not require any microsoft product at
all. his motivation is a mystery.  we i in such an enviable position, i'd be
microsoft free forever (and i've even tried to do that, but just couldn't
because of business requirements)

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary, this is Kaleb we're listening here.  I'd guess he has about 5% reason
 between his ears...

 Luther


 Gary Hurst wrote:

 haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that it
 is
 bad for you and you should give it up?

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



 Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
 multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features
 it
 has etc.
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would rather use XP, but this new computer I have had for a while came 
with Vista, and its very difficult to go back to xp on it.


Gary Hurst wrote:

i understand that it is sometimes just practical to use the microsoft OS.  i
have some vendors who have systems of communicating with their inventories
that simply will not work on anything other than the MS OS.  if i want to
know if there is a certain bilstein shock in a warehouse near you and don't
want to wait on hold for 20 minutes, i have to run MS.  (no, wonko, your
wine emulation/virtualizations don't really work).  sometimes you are just
stuck.

but kleb makes no sense at all.

1.  what does he need run that can't be run off a non-ms OS?
2.  what does he need to run that can't be run on XP but only on Vista?

as downloading porn and emails does not require any microsoft product at
all. his motivation is a mystery.  we i in such an enviable position, i'd be
microsoft free forever (and i've even tried to do that, but just couldn't
because of business requirements)

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gary, this is Kaleb we're listening here.  I'd guess he has about 5% reason
between his ears...

Luther


Gary Hurst wrote:


haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that it
is
bad for you and you should give it up?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:




Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features
it
has etc.
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Trampas
I heard if you called M$ they would give you XP code such that you could
down grade. However you have to already have XP install disks. 

Trampas

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

I would rather use XP, but this new computer I have had for a while came 
with Vista, and its very difficult to go back to xp on it.

Gary Hurst wrote:
 i understand that it is sometimes just practical to use the microsoft OS.
i
 have some vendors who have systems of communicating with their inventories
 that simply will not work on anything other than the MS OS.  if i want to
 know if there is a certain bilstein shock in a warehouse near you and
don't
 want to wait on hold for 20 minutes, i have to run MS.  (no, wonko, your
 wine emulation/virtualizations don't really work).  sometimes you are just
 stuck.
 
 but kleb makes no sense at all.
 
 1.  what does he need run that can't be run off a non-ms OS?
 2.  what does he need to run that can't be run on XP but only on Vista?
 
 as downloading porn and emails does not require any microsoft product at
 all. his motivation is a mystery.  we i in such an enviable position, i'd
be
 microsoft free forever (and i've even tried to do that, but just couldn't
 because of business requirements)
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Gary, this is Kaleb we're listening here.  I'd guess he has about 5%
reason
 between his ears...

 Luther


 Gary Hurst wrote:

 haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that
it
 is
 bad for you and you should give it up?

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
 multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what
features
 it
 has etc.
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I already have xp install disks, in fact, I have xp running on a 
seperate hard drive on this computer.  REally, the problem is I need to 
get my mail an everything moved over from the vista install, which 
luther sent me the instructions, I just have not done it yet.  Then, 
there is the fact that I bought that technet subscription but dont 
really need it, but might as well use it since I have it so though about 
upgrading my version of XP, and also downloading some office installs 
and such.


Trampas wrote:

I heard if you called M$ they would give you XP code such that you could
down grade. However you have to already have XP install disks. 


Trampas

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

I would rather use XP, but this new computer I have had for a while came 
with Vista, and its very difficult to go back to xp on it.


Gary Hurst wrote:

i understand that it is sometimes just practical to use the microsoft OS.

i

have some vendors who have systems of communicating with their inventories
that simply will not work on anything other than the MS OS.  if i want to
know if there is a certain bilstein shock in a warehouse near you and

don't

want to wait on hold for 20 minutes, i have to run MS.  (no, wonko, your
wine emulation/virtualizations don't really work).  sometimes you are just
stuck.

but kleb makes no sense at all.

1.  what does he need run that can't be run off a non-ms OS?
2.  what does he need to run that can't be run on XP but only on Vista?

as downloading porn and emails does not require any microsoft product at
all. his motivation is a mystery.  we i in such an enviable position, i'd

be

microsoft free forever (and i've even tried to do that, but just couldn't
because of business requirements)

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gary, this is Kaleb we're listening here.  I'd guess he has about 5%

reason

between his ears...

Luther


Gary Hurst wrote:


haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that

it

is
bad for you and you should give it up?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:



Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what

features

it
has etc.
--
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 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, actually, I just booted my computer from the other hard drive with 
the XP install, followed the simple instructions for pointing 
thunderbird to the correct location of mail files, and am sending this 
from XP.  I will say this computer is MUCH faster on XP than Vista.


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, I already have xp install disks, in fact, I have xp running on a 
seperate hard drive on this computer.  REally, the problem is I need to 
get my mail an everything moved over from the vista install, which 
luther sent me the instructions, I just have not done it yet.  Then, 
there is the fact that I bought that technet subscription but dont 
really need it, but might as well use it since I have it so though about 
upgrading my version of XP, and also downloading some office installs 
and such.


Trampas wrote:

I heard if you called M$ they would give you XP code such that you could
down grade. However you have to already have XP install disks.
Trampas

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

I would rather use XP, but this new computer I have had for a while 
came with Vista, and its very difficult to go back to xp on it.


Gary Hurst wrote:
i understand that it is sometimes just practical to use the microsoft 
OS.

i
have some vendors who have systems of communicating with their 
inventories
that simply will not work on anything other than the MS OS.  if i 
want to

know if there is a certain bilstein shock in a warehouse near you and

don't

want to wait on hold for 20 minutes, i have to run MS.  (no, wonko, your
wine emulation/virtualizations don't really work).  sometimes you are 
just

stuck.

but kleb makes no sense at all.

1.  what does he need run that can't be run off a non-ms OS?
2.  what does he need to run that can't be run on XP but only on Vista?

as downloading porn and emails does not require any microsoft product at
all. his motivation is a mystery.  we i in such an enviable position, 
i'd

be
microsoft free forever (and i've even tried to do that, but just 
couldn't

because of business requirements)

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gary, this is Kaleb we're listening here.  I'd guess he has about 5%

reason

between his ears...

Luther


Gary Hurst wrote:


haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that

it

is
bad for you and you should give it up?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:



Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what

features

it
has etc.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Luther
Insert any Linux bootable CD. 
Format the hard drive as FAT32. 
Reboot and insert XP install disk and follow all prompts.


Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I would rather use XP, but this new computer I have had for a while 
came with Vista, and its very difficult to go back to xp on it.


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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:42:29 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Insert any Linux bootable CD. 
 Format the hard drive as FAT32.

Actually formatting it as the default (ext2 or ext3) works very well. Then
XP says, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS! and you can have XP format it NTFS,
which is much better than FAT32.


 Reboot and insert XP install disk and follow all prompts.

Yup, and wait around during the entire install because XP doesn't ask all
the questions first like Linux typically does.


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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Luther
Re: ext2/3...I didn't know XP would write over it or even know that the 
partition was there? 


Luther

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:42:29 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Insert any Linux bootable CD. 
Format the hard drive as FAT32.



Actually formatting it as the default (ext2 or ext3) works very well. Then
XP says, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS! and you can have XP format it NTFS,
which is much better than FAT32.


  

Reboot and insert XP install disk and follow all prompts.



Yup, and wait around during the entire install because XP doesn't ask all
the questions first like Linux typically does.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:08:16 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Re: ext2/3...I didn't know XP would write over it or even know that the 
 partition was there?

Yeah, the partition table is the standard sort, so XP knows a partition is
there, but the partition type number is something it doesn't understand.

When I was fighting with XP/Intel motherboard and BIOS problems last year
with 13 computers for a control system, I made sure I had a fresh install
of XP each time I reloaded (which were many) by loading Linux and then
re-loading XP. Loading Linux was quick and fun. Loading XP was slow and
painful.


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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:08:16 -0600, Luther wrote:

 Re: ext2/3...I didn't know XP would write over it or even know
 that the partition was there? 

The partition and the file system are two totally separate
things.

XP by default will not know what to do with the file system. But
it will recognize the partition.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-22 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm a mandriva man myself, but there are lots of different flavors you can
use.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Insert any Linux bootable CD. Format the hard drive as FAT32. Reboot and
 insert XP install disk and follow all prompts.

 Luther

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I would rather use XP, but this new computer I have had for a while came
 with Vista, and its very difficult to go back to xp on it.


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[MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has 
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features 
it has etc.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-21 Thread Gary Hurst
haven't we already concluded that all anyone knows about vista is that it is
bad for you and you should give it up?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has
 multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what features it
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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-21 Thread Loren Faeth
The Volume License version, and a volume license key allow you to use 
the install disk on multiple computers and frees you from the 5 
hardware changes and you are out that is so loved.  You can get the 
VLK by following the instructions on how to get your keys  for your 
subscription.  You have to use VLK for VL versions and vice 
versa.  Mixed versions don't work.


If your Sub. allows you to get a VL version and a VLK, the best thing 
is to always use them and lock up or hide all the non-VLK disks and 
keys.  YOu then can use one disk and one key for all your client machines.


Have fun but if you install the vista crap, remember you can set 
it up to look like W2K and it will hum along Way faster!



At 04:45 PM 11/21/2008, you wrote:
Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it 
has multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what 
features it has etc.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I have the home version on this computer now, but I really want the 
features of ultimate or perhaps this enterprise.  Apparantly my 
subcrption does not allow me to download the VL versions of ultimate 
etc, but I can download the enterprise version, and its key says its MAK 
(multiple activation) So, might try that.  I already downloaded the 
ultimate (over 3 gig download).


Loren Faeth wrote:
The Volume License version, and a volume license key allow you to use 
the install disk on multiple computers and frees you from the 5 
hardware changes and you are out that is so loved.  You can get the VLK 
by following the instructions on how to get your keys  for your 
subscription.  You have to use VLK for VL versions and vice versa.  
Mixed versions don't work.


If your Sub. allows you to get a VL version and a VLK, the best thing is 
to always use them and lock up or hide all the non-VLK disks and keys.  
YOu then can use one disk and one key for all your client machines.


Have fun but if you install the vista crap, remember you can set it 
up to look like W2K and it will hum along Way faster!



At 04:45 PM 11/21/2008, you wrote:
Anybody know anything about the Enterprise version? Looks like it has 
multiple activations, but wondered if anybody has used it, what 
features it has etc.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, vista again

2008-11-21 Thread OK Don
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/enterprise/features/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I have the home version on this computer now, but I really want the
 features of ultimate or perhaps this enterprise.  Apparantly my subcrption
 does not allow me to download the VL versions of ultimate etc, but I can
 download the enterprise version, and its key says its MAK (multiple
 activation) So, might try that.  I already downloaded the ultimate (over 3
 gig download).


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-25 Thread OK Don

I've installed McAfee on Vista Business with no issues. Yes - you
should be logged in with an account that has administrative rights.
You'll still have to click allow.

On 3/24/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and it
 won't let us install security software...it just erases
 it...suggestions?

Did you tell the annoying guy in the glasses Allow?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-25 Thread LarryT
I get McAfee free with my ISP cable service - it seems to work well, but 
uses a lot of memory.  I uninstalled in and put the free AVG AV back in 
place and speed of the machine picked up.


I;ve used AVG for a year or more without any problems.  If you want to try 
it, go to www.grisoft.com  - sometimes it's hard to find the link for the 
free version - it;s usually near the bottom.


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I've installed McAfee on Vista Business with no issues. Yes - you
should be logged in with an account that has administrative rights.
You'll still have to click allow.

On 3/24/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and it
 won't let us install security software...it just erases
 it...suggestions?

Did you tell the annoying guy in the glasses Allow?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-24 Thread B Dike
Any and all,
   
  We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and it won't 
let us install security software...it just erases it...suggestions?  Do we need 
to be logged into an admin account or something?
   
  Thanks,


Bruce
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Sell the winbox and get a mac.  Seems there are a number of people  
getting rid of Vista because it is screwing up their machines.  At  
least in Seattle.

I just sold my B/W G3 to a fellow at M$.  Said he wanted a machine  
that works.  Also traded his Porsche for a nice 1980 w107.


On Mar 23, 2007, at 9:09 PM, B Dike wrote:

 Any and all,

   We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and  
 it won't let us install security software...it just erases  
 it...suggestions?  Do we need to be logged into an admin account or  
 something?

   Thanks,


 Bruce
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-24 Thread LT Don

Yes. Send me your address off-list and I will send you a Linux CD.

D.


On 3/24/07, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Any and all,

  We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and it
won't let us install security software...it just erases
it...suggestions?  Do we need to be logged into an admin account or
something?

  Thanks,


Bruce
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-24 Thread Jim Cathey
  We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and it 
won't let us install security software...it just erases 
it...suggestions?


Did you tell the annoying guy in the glasses Allow?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-24 Thread John M McIntosh
Surely Microsoft wouldn't hamper and delete competitor products,  
certainly not ones they want to crush and destroy so they can take over
those $100 a year update fees? No, I mean they were convicted once  
already by the USA Govt for such nonsense...   Surely not again.


I guess you could start
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/themes/vista/compatibility.jsp
and start wading...
I couldn't wade too far because symantec at some point bitched I  
wasn't using IE 5.5 or higher (yes I know)... Also I use form of  
windows either, better things to do with my time.


On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:09 PM, B Dike wrote:


Any and all,

  We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and  
it won't let us install security software...it just erases  
it...suggestions?  Do we need to be logged into an admin account or  
something?


  Thanks,


Bruce




Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

2007-03-24 Thread Gary Hurst

that's some pretty sound advice!

On 3/24/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sell the winbox and get a mac.  Seems there are a number of people
getting rid of Vista because it is screwing up their machines.  At
least in Seattle.

I just sold my B/W G3 to a fellow at M$.  Said he wanted a machine
that works.  Also traded his Porsche for a nice 1980 w107.


On Mar 23, 2007, at 9:09 PM, B Dike wrote:

 Any and all,

   We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and
 it won't let us install security software...it just erases
 it...suggestions?  Do we need to be logged into an admin account or
 something?

   Thanks,


 Bruce
 82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
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