[MBZ] OT who wants flame throwers?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Could put this in your hood stack and look like an old locomotive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYU7iVSsf5E

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Y'all are missing the whole point of this subject!  The issue is not the 
filter itself; rather, the K sticker!  Affixing it to your ride is 
GUARANTEED to give you a performance boost!  It fits any car, truck, 
bus, or aircraft, it is a universal performance booster!  It is 
FILTER-CHARGED!


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On 8/28/16 11:22 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Yes any performance gain probably depends in part upon how restrictive the
stock filter is that the KN replaces.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


I read a report years ago about K outfitting the big trucks in an open
pit mine with their filters. The mine threw them out after having to
rebuild most of the engines due to cylinder wear from all the dirt that was
getting in.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling
kills a $150+ sensor.
I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or
economy gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell.
Kid next door has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
Curt

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   On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes<
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   >

I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing

higher

ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide

better

performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without

air

cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor

you

will notice the difference.




I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
expense of less filtration.



On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Karl wrote:

What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
it otherwise would.

Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
referring to power output - sustained.

So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
agree.


So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
stoplight is a different experience.

Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!



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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes any performance gain probably depends in part upon how restrictive the
stock filter is that the KN replaces.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I read a report years ago about K outfitting the big trucks in an open
> pit mine with their filters. The mine threw them out after having to
> rebuild most of the engines due to cylinder wear from all the dirt that was
> getting in.
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling
> > kills a $150+ sensor.
> > I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or
> > economy gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell.
> > Kid next door has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >   On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   >
> > > I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing
> > higher
> > > ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide
> better
> > > performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without
> air
> > > cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor
> > you
> > > will notice the difference.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> > > expense of less filtration.
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> > Karl wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
> > >> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
> > >>
> > >> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
> > >> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
> > >> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
> > >> > it otherwise would.
> > >>
> > >> Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
> > >> referring to power output - sustained.
> > >>
> > >> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
> > >> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
> > >> agree.
> > >>
> > >> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
> > >> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
> > >> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
> > >> > stoplight is a different experience.
> > >>
> > >> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
> > >> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I read a report years ago about K outfitting the big trucks in an open
pit mine with their filters. The mine threw them out after having to
rebuild most of the engines due to cylinder wear from all the dirt that was
getting in.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling
> kills a $150+ sensor.
> I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or
> economy gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell.
> Kid next door has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   >
> > I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing
> higher
> > ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide better
> > performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without air
> > cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor
> you
> > will notice the difference.
>
>
>
> > I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> > expense of less filtration.
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> > Karl wrote:
> >> >
> >> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
> >> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
> >>
> >> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
> >> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
> >> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
> >> > it otherwise would.
> >>
> >> Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
> >> referring to power output - sustained.
> >>
> >> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
> >> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
> >> agree.
> >>
> >> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
> >> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
> >> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
> >> > stoplight is a different experience.
> >>
> >> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
> >> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling kills 
a $150+ sensor.
I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or economy 
gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell. Kid next door 
has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
Curt

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  On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes wrote:   >
> I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing higher
> ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide better
> performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without air
> cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor you
> will notice the difference.



> I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> expense of less filtration.


> On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>> > Karl wrote:
>> >
>> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
>> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
>>
>> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
>> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
>> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
>> > it otherwise would.
>>
>> Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
>> referring to power output - sustained.
>>
>> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
>> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
>> agree.
>>
>> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
>> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
>> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
>> > stoplight is a different experience.
>>
>> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
>> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

>
> I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing higher
> ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide better
> performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without air
> cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor you
> will notice the difference.



> I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> expense of less filtration.


> On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>> > Karl wrote:
>> >
>> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
>> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
>>
>> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
>> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
>> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
>> > it otherwise would.
>>
>> Ah!   You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
>> referring to power output - sustained.
>>
>> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
>> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
>> agree.
>>
>> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
>> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
>> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
>> > stoplight is a different experience.
>>
>> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
>> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Karl wrote:
> 
> What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
> difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.

> ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
> pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
> spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
> it otherwise would.

Ah!   You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
referring to power output - sustained.

So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
agree.

> So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
> found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
> rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
> stoplight is a different experience.

Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!



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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, simple test, resulting in numbers to determine the gain.  No gain with no 
filter = no gain with K filter.  K Hot air intake set up may cause worse 
performance.
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On August 27, 2016 10:35:40 AM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>Really? Marshall always suggested that the stock filter flowed plenty
>of air. He said 0-60 times with and without a filter would be basically
>the same...
>
>Curt
>
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>On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via
>Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   They do "work" in terms of
>performance. They just don't keep the dirt out
>of the motor. I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable
>difference.
>
>On Aug 26, 2016 7:42 AM, "Donald Snook via Mercedes"
><mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Put it on ebay. A lot of people who don't know better think those
>things
>> actually work.
>>
>> Don Snook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:33 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?
>>
>> Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old
>> Blazer and I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped
>a
>> sticker:
>>
>> K
>> FilterCharged!
>>
>> Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp
>a
>> 240D.  It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will
>send it
>> to the first to reply with a "I want it"
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Really? Marshall always suggested that the stock filter flowed plenty of air. 
He said 0-60 times with and without a filter would be basically the same...

Curt

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  On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   They do "work" in terms of 
performance. They just don't keep the dirt out
of the motor. I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable difference.

On Aug 26, 2016 7:42 AM, "Donald Snook via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Put it on ebay. A lot of people who don't know better think those things
> actually work.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:33 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?
>
> Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old
> Blazer and I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped a
> sticker:
>
> K
> FilterCharged!
>
> Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a
> 240D.  It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send it
> to the first to reply with a "I want it"
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

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> What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no difference on a
turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
>
> The filter does create a variable flow restriction, which varies with
engine rpm.
>
> But the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to spool,
because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than it otherwise
would. It is trying to achieve 9 psi above ambient pressure, but being fed
less than ambient. The alda is waiting for the turbo to come on before
feeding more fuel to the engine also. So the whole process is delayed.
>
> The restrictive intake filter is sort of like being at higher altitude,
except the altitude varies directly with engine speed.
>
> Even when the wastegate is open, the turbo has to work harder to achieve
the same boost at a lower inlet pressure than it does at a higher inlet
pressure, so the pumping losses and possibly adiabatic compressor
efficiency losses are greater.
>
> So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also found that
top end performance was improved, with a higher max rpm at max throttle. Is
isn't even subtle. Taking off from a stoplight is a different experience.
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2016 11:52 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>>
>> > Karl wrote:
>> >
>> > [K filters] do "work" in terms of performance. They just don't
>> > keep the dirt out of the motor.
>>
>> Yeah, kinda what a filter is for.
>>
>> If the K is cleaned and oiled often, it can do okay.  But I
>> rarely find ones that are so cared for.
>>
>> > I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable difference.
>>
>> With a turbo, it shouldn't matter much.  At low RPM, there isn't
>> much air moving through the filter so filter restriction is not a
>> big factor.  When the turbo spools up, there is excess air that the
>> waste gate "dumps", so the restriction of the filter doesn't matter
>> until it's really bad.
>>
>> On a normally aspirated engine, though, the restriction of the
>> filter can be pretty noticeable.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is about filter area too.  The filter for my R75/5 had the same or 
more filter area (reportedly)   What is stupid is the tiny mushroom 
filter on an OM617 or OM603 engine, whether it is paper or K



fmiser via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
August 27, 2016 at 1:53 AM

Karl wrote:

[K filters] do "work" in terms of performance. They just don't
keep the dirt out of the motor.


Yeah, kinda what a filter is for.

If the K is cleaned and oiled often, it can do okay.  But I
rarely find ones that are so cared for.


I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable difference.


With a turbo, it shouldn't matter much.  At low RPM, there isn't
much air moving through the filter so filter restriction is not a
big factor.  When the turbo spools up, there is excess air that the
waste gate "dumps", so the restriction of the filter doesn't matter
until it's really bad.

On a normally aspirated engine, though, the restriction of the
filter can be pretty noticeable.

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August 26, 2016 at 10:27 PM
They do "work" in terms of performance. They just don't keep the dirt out
of the motor. I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable 
difference.


On Aug 26, 2016 7:42 AM, "Donald Snook via Mercedes" 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>

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August 26, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Put it on ebay. A lot of people who don't know better think those 
things actually work.


Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old 
Blazer and I don't think I ever used it. But out of the box dropped a

sticker:

K
FilterCharged!

Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a 
240D. It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send 
it to the first to reply with a "I want it"


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
August 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM
Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old 
Blazer and I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped a 
sticker:


K
FilterCharged!

Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a 
240D.  It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send 
it to the first to reply with a "I want it"




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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Karl wrote:
> 
> [K filters] do "work" in terms of performance. They just don't
> keep the dirt out of the motor. 

Yeah, kinda what a filter is for.

If the K is cleaned and oiled often, it can do okay.  But I
rarely find ones that are so cared for.

> I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable difference.

With a turbo, it shouldn't matter much.  At low RPM, there isn't
much air moving through the filter so filter restriction is not a
big factor.  When the turbo spools up, there is excess air that the
waste gate "dumps", so the restriction of the filter doesn't matter
until it's really bad.

On a normally aspirated engine, though, the restriction of the
filter can be pretty noticeable.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I put an early K model in my R75/5 years ago.  They work as long as 
you keep them oiled and clean it often.  I still think it was better 
than paying the price for the BMW air filters, and it did breathe 
easier.   My MB at the time had an oil bath air filter and it cost me 
maybe 30¢ to change where the BMW filter was $6 or $8 back then.  I 
still prefer oil bath air filters.  But the stealers find it more 
profitable to sell you a $25 filter than nothing.



Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
August 26, 2016 at 10:27 PM
They do "work" in terms of performance. They just don't keep the dirt out
of the motor. I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable 
difference.




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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

They do "work" in terms of performance. They just don't keep the dirt out
of the motor. I stuck one on the 617 one time. Pretty noticeable difference.

On Aug 26, 2016 7:42 AM, "Donald Snook via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Put it on ebay. A lot of people who don't know better think those things
> actually work.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:33 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?
>
> Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old
> Blazer and I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped a
> sticker:
>
> K
> FilterCharged!
>
> Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a
> 240D.  It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send it
> to the first to reply with a "I want it"
>
> --
>
> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The sticker will go on anything

--FT


On 8/26/16 2:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd wrote:

Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my
old Blazer

How old?  I have a couple old chevys.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Floyd wrote:
> 
> Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my
> old Blazer

How old?  I have a couple old chevys.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Put it on ebay. A lot of people who don't know better think those things 
actually work. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old Blazer and 
I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped a
sticker:

K
FilterCharged!

Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a 240D.  
It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send it to the first 
to reply with a "I want it"

-- 

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's quite a prize.  You may need a lottery to pick a winner.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old
> Blazer and I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped a
> sticker:
>
> K
> FilterCharged!
>
> Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a
> 240D.  It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send it
> to the first to reply with a "I want it"
>
> --
>
> --FT
>
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[MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Cleaning out the garage I found a K filter I had bought for my old 
Blazer and I don't think I ever used it.  But out of the box dropped a 
sticker:


K
FilterCharged!

Putting this sticker on your car will definitely make it faster, esp a 
240D.  It's not too big but it is the message that counts. I will send 
it to the first to reply with a "I want it"


--

--FT


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[MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[Rich Thomas]

http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Vegans only need apply.  
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:20:47 
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[WILTON]

Shoo 'im out onto I-95; that oughta do it.  ;))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:20 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?



http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[Craig]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:36:49 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Shoo 'im out onto I-95; that oughta do it.  ;))
 
 Wilton
 
  http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html

Now it says, Flagged for removal.

What was it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[Rich Thomas]

A guy was trying to give away a rooster that was not getting along with 
his dog.  I guess he liked the dog better.  I saw dinner on someone's table.


--R

On 12/17/11 7:11 PM, Craig wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:36:49 -0500 WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com  wrote:


Shoo 'im out onto I-95; that oughta do it.  ;))

Wilton


http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html

Now it says, Flagged for removal.

What was it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[WILTON]

'Looks like Rhode Island Red rooster.  Somebody trying to give away a 
rooster.


Wilton

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?



On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:36:49 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Shoo 'im out onto I-95; that oughta do it.  ;))

Wilton

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html


Now it says, Flagged for removal.

What was it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[Peter Frederick]

If it's more than six months old chicken and dumplings is a better  
use, they get tough fast after they develop a comb


Peter

On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

'Looks like Rhode Island Red rooster.  Somebody trying to give away  
a rooster.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
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Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?


On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:36:49 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com  
wrote:



Shoo 'im out onto I-95; that oughta do it.  ;))

Wilton

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html


Now it says, Flagged for removal.

What was it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[andrew strasfogel]

I hear that they make good pets.

On 12/17/11, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
 If it's more than six months old chicken and dumplings is a better
 use, they get tough fast after they develop a comb

 Peter

 On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

 'Looks like Rhode Island Red rooster.  Somebody trying to give away
 a rooster.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?


 On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:36:49 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

 Shoo 'im out onto I-95; that oughta do it.  ;))

 Wilton

  http://charleston.craigslist.org/zip/2757698513.html

 Now it says, Flagged for removal.

 What was it?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants supper?

[Gerry Archer]

From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
'Looks like Rhode Island Red rooster.  Somebody trying to give away a 
rooster.

Wilton


Maybe a mean son of Raunchous Red?

http://thesouthern.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/23334678-b4e5-11e0-875c-001cc4c03286.html

Gerry 



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