Re: [MBZ] OT: Oops

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Isn't it challenging to wrestle with a live wild hog?

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:12 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Slaughter in the same way you would a domestic pig.
>
> Big with the Hispanic population down here. I know a guy who traps for our
> community every year or two when the sounders get too big and start coming
> into the neighborhood from our private park and eating plantings around the
> homes. He uses dogs to trap them. He takes them live and sells them to the
> local Hispanic community where they roast the whole thing.
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 3, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > What do you do once you trap them? Shoot them?
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On 03/11/2021 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The Boar Buster is much safer.
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFXhGoDnW0
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oops

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Slaughter in the same way you would a domestic pig.

Big with the Hispanic population down here. I know a guy who traps for our 
community every year or two when the sounders get too big and start coming into 
the neighborhood from our private park and eating plantings around the homes. 
He uses dogs to trap them. He takes them live and sells them to the local 
Hispanic community where they roast the whole thing.

-D

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do you do once you trap them? Shoot them?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 03/11/2021 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> The Boar Buster is much safer.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFXhGoDnW0
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oops

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wild boar sukiyaki is excellent.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:53 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> What do you do once you trap them? Shoot them?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 03/11/2021 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > The Boar Buster is much safer.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFXhGoDnW0
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oops

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

What do you do once you trap them? Shoot them?

Randy


On 03/11/2021 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The Boar Buster is much safer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFXhGoDnW0




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oops

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The Boar Buster is much safer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFXhGoDnW0

On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 6:06 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> And the explanation.
>
> https://youtu.be/XXqiasCUXi8
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>
> Rick
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> https://youtu.be/uYBf3XPwvaU
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oops

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

And the explanation.

https://youtu.be/XXqiasCUXi8


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Oops

https://youtu.be/uYBf3XPwvaU


Rick
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[MBZ] OT: Oops

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/uYBf3XPwvaU


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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Sounds like Risky Business. 
(unfortunately this clip starts AFTER she releases the parking brake, and it's
the only one I could find)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bodVVtqmbZE

> On November 9, 2016 at 1:31 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/national/article113323743.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 09/11/2016 12:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/national/article113323743.html



I understand Kleb has offered him $500 for it.

RB


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[MBZ] OT oops

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/national/article113323743.html


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[MBZ] OT oops

[Rich Thomas]

Uhhh, yes sir, we just landed at the other airport...

Then he had to ask for coordinates of where he was sitting.  I guess 
they don't have a chart or a GPS or a smartphone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fjPx_i2XIw#t=137

There is one of these planes usually parked at CHS at the Boeing facility.

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Dan Penoff]

Like when the military guys landed the C5 (I think) at the little private field 
that parallels McDill AFB's runway here.

Watching the takeoff was pretty exciting.

I'm wondering how they're going to get that aircraft off the ground?

Dan

 On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 Uhhh, yes sir, we just landed at the other airport...
 
 Then he had to ask for coordinates of where he was sitting.  I guess they 
 don't have a chart or a GPS or a smartphone.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fjPx_i2XIw#t=137
 
 There is one of these planes usually parked at CHS at the Boeing facility.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Rich Thomas]

They flew it out (with another crew) a few hours later, no drama. They 
might have offloaded some fuel to get the weight down. Apparently it had 
plenty of runway to spare.


--R


On 11/22/13 10:37 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Like when the military guys landed the C5 (I think) at the little private field 
that parallels McDill AFB's runway here.

Watching the takeoff was pretty exciting.

I'm wondering how they're going to get that aircraft off the ground?

Dan


On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Uhhh, yes sir, we just landed at the other airport...

Then he had to ask for coordinates of where he was sitting.  I guess they don't 
have a chart or a GPS or a smartphone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fjPx_i2XIw#t=137

There is one of these planes usually parked at CHS at the Boeing facility.

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Dan Penoff]

I wondered, as the media made a big deal about it needing 9000+ feet to take 
off, but I was sure that was if it was fully loaded

Dump fuel to minimums and empty the cabin and I'm sure the Boeing corporate 
pilots could get it out with a lot, lot less.

I wonder if the crew who landed it there will get canned or get a medal?

 On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 They flew it out (with another crew) a few hours later, no drama. They might 
 have offloaded some fuel to get the weight down. Apparently it had plenty of 
 runway to spare.
 
 --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[OK Don]

 The 9000  feet was at gross weight.  They figured it had burned  enough
fuel flying there to allow it to get off the ground with the 6000  feet
available,  with the cargo still onboard.  And they were right.

On Friday, November 22, 2013, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 I wondered, as the media made a big deal about it needing 9000+ feet to
take off, but I was sure that was if it was fully loaded

 Dump fuel to minimums and empty the cabin and I'm sure the Boeing
corporate pilots could get it out with a lot, lot less.

 I wonder if the crew who landed it there will get canned or get a medal?

 On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 They flew it out (with another crew) a few hours later, no drama. They
might have offloaded some fuel to get the weight down. Apparently it had
plenty of runway to spare.

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Scott Ritchey]

This is surprisingly easy to do and used to be more common.  I have watched
simulated air-to-ground ordnance delivery there the forward air controller
(FAC) talked the pilot onto the target.  In one example, all participants
thought it went well until we showed them the instrumentation replay; the
striker's aim point was 10 miles away from the intended target.  Sometimes
you don't know what you don't know.

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Uhhh, yes sir, we just landed at the other airport...

Then he had to ask for coordinates of where he was sitting.  I guess 
they don't have a chart or a GPS or a smartphone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fjPx_i2XIw#t=137

There is one of these planes usually parked at CHS at the Boeing facility.

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[MBZ] OT oops

[Rich Thomas]

Looks like they need some more gummint loans to see if they can fix the 
problem


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/10/fisker-fire-new-jersey

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Tim C]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 Looks like they need some more gummint loans to see if they can fix the
 problem

 http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/10/fisker-fire-new-jersey

Warning, do not attempt to drive through saltwater.  If you are
completely submerged, please get out of the car as soon as possible.
Car can be used as a heat-generation device if you are trapped on a
deserted island.  Coming soon to a windscreen near you.

On a related note, why -don't- flood cars have engine fires?  Seems
like they would as soon as the battery starts shorting.  Is it just
that there is so little to burn in a normal car, you really have to be
unlucky to spark the gas lines?  Or do they burn in such a limited
fashion that they don't do much structural damage?

Best,
Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Mitch Haley]

Tim C wrote:
On a related note, why -don't- flood cars have engine fires?  


Because they don't have hundreds of pounds of lithium in them?

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Tim C]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Tim C wrote:

 On a related note, why -don't- flood cars have engine fires?


 Because they don't have hundreds of pounds of lithium in them?

Lead-acid will explode if shorted, won't it?  I'll have to try it sometime. :)

Best,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Jim Cathey]

On a related note, why -don't- flood cars have engine fires?


RQ: What do they use to put _out_ fires?

Seems like they would as soon as the battery starts shorting.  Is it 
just

that there is so little to burn in a normal car, you really have to be
unlucky to spark the gas lines?  Or do they burn in such a limited
fashion that they don't do much structural damage?


Not enough energy in the typical battery to boil anything
to the ignition point.  Also, the voltage is not high enough
to discharge the battery at a ruinous rate.  Salt water is
not a direct short.  Not like a wrench across the terminals.

Now an EV?  A differnt fish kettle.  More electrons, more voltons,
and a much more fragile/flammable battery.  Many many more Joules,
and they don't need any stinkin' atmosphere present to 'win'.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Mitch Haley]

Tim C wrote:


Lead-acid will explode if shorted, won't it?  I'll have to try it sometime. :)


4% salt solution is far from a dead short, and we're talking only about 12v with 
inches of separation between positive and negative. Less separation at the 
starter, might be some notable hydrogen production going on there, but I don't 
know how you'd build up a combustible bubble of it under water.


If a high performance electric car has some place where two exposed wires have 
200V between them, saltwater could convert to oxygen and hydrogen very rapidly.

And if you had a way of igniting that and getting the batteries going...

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[Jim Cathey]

And if you had a way of igniting that and getting the batteries 
going...


I'm not sure that H2/O2 would be required.  Self-heating of those
batteries alone might do it.

The rule on EV's might be: if it gets flooded push it into
deeper water for at least a day!

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Re: [MBZ] OT oops

[John Reames]

Correct me if I am wrong, but hydrolysis of seawater gives H+ And Cl- (leaving 
behind NaOH ?)

As for extinguishing lithium fires, IIRC, a special graphite powder mixture is 
needed to smother them.  Lithium reacts with water in a manner not inconsistent 
with other Group I elements (Potassium, Sodium, etc), so most fire departments 
can't mess with those fires.

Gives new meaning to carbecue.

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On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:26, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Tim C wrote:
 
 Lead-acid will explode if shorted, won't it?  I'll have to try it sometime. 
 :)
 
 4% salt solution is far from a dead short, and we're talking only about 12v 
 with inches of separation between positive and negative. Less separation at 
 the starter, might be some notable hydrogen production going on there, but I 
 don't know how you'd build up a combustible bubble of it under water.
 
 If a high performance electric car has some place where two exposed wires 
 have 200V between them, saltwater could convert to oxygen and hydrogen very 
 rapidly.
 And if you had a way of igniting that and getting the batteries going...
 
 Mitch.
 
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