Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
it is. "If ya wanna sell your schtuff in the US of A, ya gotta make it non-adjustable. (yer friendly EPA) fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/19 3:58 PM: Dan wrote: I haven't decided if it’s a ploy to sell more stuff or just a way for a manufacturer to be a d*ck. I suspect it's the EPA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
> Dan wrote: > I haven't decided if it’s a ploy to sell more stuff or just a way > for a manufacturer to be a d*ck. I suspect it's the EPA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
That’s your EPA at work. Set at the factory to keep the mixture adjusted for eternity, or the life of the device, to minimize emissions. Only certified mixture adjustment personnel with the special tools can protect us! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 11, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > This carb had plastic things that limited the amount of adjustment to about > 1/4 of a turn or so, with no way to remove the screws entirely. Dremel > tool made pretty short work of the locking portion. The bottom plastic / > rubber portion is actually the seal, so I couldn't remove it entirely. One > of the plastic screw toppers did come off, revealing a nice slotted shaft > below which turns with a regular screwdriver. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:33 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Last year I bought a set of special screwdrivers that adjust the weird >> carb screws. It made the horrible cheap chainsaw at camp slightly less >> horrible. The only way to really fix that thing is to take it to the dump >> but at least nobody will steal it. >> Curt >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes< >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: waytago! >> >> Did you encounter the "tamper-proof" screw heads? I found some what to >> get them out, then cut slots in each head so they could be turned. >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
This carb had plastic things that limited the amount of adjustment to about 1/4 of a turn or so, with no way to remove the screws entirely. Dremel tool made pretty short work of the locking portion. The bottom plastic / rubber portion is actually the seal, so I couldn't remove it entirely. One of the plastic screw toppers did come off, revealing a nice slotted shaft below which turns with a regular screwdriver. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:33 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Last year I bought a set of special screwdrivers that adjust the weird > carb screws. It made the horrible cheap chainsaw at camp slightly less > horrible. The only way to really fix that thing is to take it to the dump > but at least nobody will steal it. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: waytago! > > Did you encounter the "tamper-proof" screw heads? I found some what to > get them out, then cut slots in each head so they could be turned. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
Last year I bought a set of special screwdrivers that adjust the weird carb screws. It made the horrible cheap chainsaw at camp slightly less horrible. The only way to really fix that thing is to take it to the dump but at least nobody will steal it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: waytago! Did you encounter the "tamper-proof" screw heads? I found some what to get them out, then cut slots in each head so they could be turned. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/10/19 8:58 PM: > Last summer I rebuilt the carburator on my weed whacker, a 31cc two stroke > engine. It ran great a couple times, then it didn't. It would start and > idle, but then die as soon as I opened the throttle. > > Took the carb apart and cleaned out the passages again, no change. > > I decided to break the EPA seal on the two jet adjustment screws, then remove > those and clean their passages. > > That did the trick. > > I carefully counted the turns for each screw as I removed them, put them back > the same number of turns, then fine tuned once I had the engine running. > Both needed to be turned in a bit. > > I think the high speed jet might be off, there is a slight stumble right off > idle, but she's producing great power now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
Mine was much the same way, however, I couldn’t wait to mess with it so I bought an exact (new) replacement as they were still being sold. I figured that gave me a parts donor if I need one. I bought the original one in 1996, so I can’t complain that I haven’t gotten my money’s worth out of it. Do consider that the usage factor is much higher down here, too, as we cut grass and trim at least 8 months out of the year. -D > On Mar 11, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Unfortunately not for this old weed wacker, circa 2000. I would have taken > that route last summer but all I could find was a rebuild kit, no > replacement for the carb was available. > > This unit has been pretty much trouble free, last summer was the first > major trouble during nearly 20 years of use. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:38 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> You can buy those carbs for cheap, hardly worth fooling with them. Just >> replace it. I discovered that on another device a coupla years ago. >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
Unfortunately not for this old weed wacker, circa 2000. I would have taken that route last summer but all I could find was a rebuild kit, no replacement for the carb was available. This unit has been pretty much trouble free, last summer was the first major trouble during nearly 20 years of use. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:38 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You can buy those carbs for cheap, hardly worth fooling with them. Just > replace it. I discovered that on another device a coupla years ago. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
None of my 1/5 scale RC 2-stroke gas RC car engines have carbs with tamper proof screws, just slotted type screws. Of course, the carbs cost half the price of a cheap weed whacker. As long as I run it dry or clamp the fuel line shut after a run, they start right up the next time out. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I had a weed wacker that got surly as far as starting and running decently. I > knew there was nothing wrong with it other than wear and tear, so I ordered a > set of the “PacMan” tools to adjust the carb. With those I was able to get > things set quite well, and it continues to serve me several years later. > > The use of special adjustment screws really chaps my bottom. I haven't > decided if it’s a ploy to sell more stuff or just a way for a manufacturer to > be a d*ck. > > -D > > >> On Mar 10, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> You can buy those carbs for cheap, hardly worth fooling with them. Just >> replace it. I discovered that on another device a coupla years ago. >> >> A coupla weeks back my leaf blower would not turn when I pulled the starter >> cord. It’s a Stihl, they said if I used their synthetic oil in the fuel mix >> it had a lifetime warranty (or something like that). So I use the synthetic >> oil. It had not been sitting that long so not sure why it seized. I didn’t >> want to go to the hassle of fighting with them so I decided to see if I >> could free it up. >> >> Took out the spark plug and squirted a good dose of PB Blaster in there and >> let it sit for a coupla hours then gave it a pull and it spun freely. >> Success! It fired up after a few cranks and smoked a lot burning off the >> PB. I noticed the mixture adjustment screws had philips heads so got those >> tuned in too. Running much better now. >> >> I wish these things would just work. They are constantly problematic. >> Chainsaw, blower, weed whacker, all those 2-cycle things. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> >>> On Mar 10, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Last summer I rebuilt the carburator on my weed whacker, a 31cc two stroke >>> engine. It ran great a couple times, then it didn't. It would start and >>> idle, but then die as soon as I opened the throttle. >>> >>> Took the carb apart and cleaned out the passages again, no change. >>> >>> I decided to break the EPA seal on the two jet adjustment screws, then >>> remove those and clean their passages. >>> >>> That did the trick. >>> >>> I carefully counted the turns for each screw as I removed them, put them >>> back the same number of turns, then fine tuned once I had the engine >>> running. Both needed to be turned in a bit. >>> >>> I think the high speed jet might be off, there is a slight stumble right >>> off idle, but she's producing great power now. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
I had a weed wacker that got surly as far as starting and running decently. I knew there was nothing wrong with it other than wear and tear, so I ordered a set of the “PacMan” tools to adjust the carb. With those I was able to get things set quite well, and it continues to serve me several years later. The use of special adjustment screws really chaps my bottom. I haven't decided if it’s a ploy to sell more stuff or just a way for a manufacturer to be a d*ck. -D > On Mar 10, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > You can buy those carbs for cheap, hardly worth fooling with them. Just > replace it. I discovered that on another device a coupla years ago. > > A coupla weeks back my leaf blower would not turn when I pulled the starter > cord. It’s a Stihl, they said if I used their synthetic oil in the fuel mix > it had a lifetime warranty (or something like that). So I use the synthetic > oil. It had not been sitting that long so not sure why it seized. I didn’t > want to go to the hassle of fighting with them so I decided to see if I could > free it up. > > Took out the spark plug and squirted a good dose of PB Blaster in there and > let it sit for a coupla hours then gave it a pull and it spun freely. > Success! It fired up after a few cranks and smoked a lot burning off the PB. > I noticed the mixture adjustment screws had philips heads so got those tuned > in too. Running much better now. > > I wish these things would just work. They are constantly problematic. > Chainsaw, blower, weed whacker, all those 2-cycle things. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Mar 10, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Last summer I rebuilt the carburator on my weed whacker, a 31cc two stroke >> engine. It ran great a couple times, then it didn't. It would start and >> idle, but then die as soon as I opened the throttle. >> >> Took the carb apart and cleaned out the passages again, no change. >> >> I decided to break the EPA seal on the two jet adjustment screws, then >> remove those and clean their passages. >> >> That did the trick. >> >> I carefully counted the turns for each screw as I removed them, put them >> back the same number of turns, then fine tuned once I had the engine >> running. Both needed to be turned in a bit. >> >> I think the high speed jet might be off, there is a slight stumble right off >> idle, but she's producing great power now. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
You can buy those carbs for cheap, hardly worth fooling with them. Just replace it. I discovered that on another device a coupla years ago. A coupla weeks back my leaf blower would not turn when I pulled the starter cord. It’s a Stihl, they said if I used their synthetic oil in the fuel mix it had a lifetime warranty (or something like that). So I use the synthetic oil. It had not been sitting that long so not sure why it seized. I didn’t want to go to the hassle of fighting with them so I decided to see if I could free it up. Took out the spark plug and squirted a good dose of PB Blaster in there and let it sit for a coupla hours then gave it a pull and it spun freely. Success! It fired up after a few cranks and smoked a lot burning off the PB. I noticed the mixture adjustment screws had philips heads so got those tuned in too. Running much better now. I wish these things would just work. They are constantly problematic. Chainsaw, blower, weed whacker, all those 2-cycle things. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 10, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Last summer I rebuilt the carburator on my weed whacker, a 31cc two stroke > engine. It ran great a couple times, then it didn't. It would start and > idle, but then die as soon as I opened the throttle. > > Took the carb apart and cleaned out the passages again, no change. > > I decided to break the EPA seal on the two jet adjustment screws, then remove > those and clean their passages. > > That did the trick. > > I carefully counted the turns for each screw as I removed them, put them back > the same number of turns, then fine tuned once I had the engine running. > Both needed to be turned in a bit. > > I think the high speed jet might be off, there is a slight stumble right off > idle, but she's producing great power now. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT small victories
waytago! Did you encounter the "tamper-proof" screw heads? I found some what to get them out, then cut slots in each head so they could be turned. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/10/19 8:58 PM: Last summer I rebuilt the carburator on my weed whacker, a 31cc two stroke engine. It ran great a couple times, then it didn't. It would start and idle, but then die as soon as I opened the throttle. Took the carb apart and cleaned out the passages again, no change. I decided to break the EPA seal on the two jet adjustment screws, then remove those and clean their passages. That did the trick. I carefully counted the turns for each screw as I removed them, put them back the same number of turns, then fine tuned once I had the engine running. Both needed to be turned in a bit. I think the high speed jet might be off, there is a slight stumble right off idle, but she's producing great power now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT small victories
Last summer I rebuilt the carburator on my weed whacker, a 31cc two stroke engine. It ran great a couple times, then it didn't. It would start and idle, but then die as soon as I opened the throttle. Took the carb apart and cleaned out the passages again, no change. I decided to break the EPA seal on the two jet adjustment screws, then remove those and clean their passages. That did the trick. I carefully counted the turns for each screw as I removed them, put them back the same number of turns, then fine tuned once I had the engine running. Both needed to be turned in a bit. I think the high speed jet might be off, there is a slight stumble right off idle, but she's producing great power now. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
