Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
You have to think about summers here. Summers are hotter than a (wait, this isn't Banned...)...it's stupid hot. The airport is easy to get in and out of. Buckeye (west of Phoenix and west of Litchfield Park where I live) is Okie-esque. What the others have said about the greener grass should be considered. Bob R On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others > in this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got > fired a while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the > west coast regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would > have been going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job > with carfax was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they > ended up going with a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would > have moved from my management job to a much less stressful rep job at > carfax for much larger base but lower bonus portion. It thing that move > would have netted about 10k more per year. So just from talking to my boss > the base for a regional manager job with our company would come in a little > less than the rep job at carfax. Not sure what the bonus is but that is > where I'm getting the idea it's not worth it to relocate. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The grass is always greener, but in reality, it rarely is. Stay put, > enjoy your stuff and family, and when the next notch up the ladder presents > itself in your neighborhood, go for it. > > > > I can assure you that in relocations like this, no matter how good they > sound, how much of the costs the company covers, or how much more money you > make, you ALWAYS lose. Sometimes more than others, but you always come out > a little less when the dust settles. > > > > Take it from someone who has done it more than once. > > > > Dan > > > > > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market > manager. Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would > be managing the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting > rid of all my crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and > hassle would outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region > it would be a no brainier as I would not have to relocate. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >>> > What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about > throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at > work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to > live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be > what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if > it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in > the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I > would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. > >>> ~~~ > >>> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes? > >>> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and > move. > >>> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and > you usually get blamed for what your underlings do. > >>> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab > rat. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Dan wrote: > Take it from someone who has done it more than once. Line in news today was - Kohler to go on strike. Eh? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix / Relocation
Day to day life here has nothing to do with Disney World, or any of the "attractions" for that matter. Or going to the beach. People who envision some sort of Utopian lifestyle because we live near the ocean or the Mouse are experiencing an altered reality that just doesn't exist. My days here are little different from what they were anywhere else I've lived. I have to go to work, take care of family and household matter, deal with the daily issues of life we all do no matter where we live. it has nothing to do with the beach or going to Busch Gardens, nor is that an option. Dan Yup No mouse, no busch.When people hear we lived in Hawaii, they have visions of "Robin's" Estate in Magnum. Tain't so. Reality is houses stacked nearly touching, an Ohana house in the backyard, either for family members or to help make the payment on the house or both. Keeds play in da street, or at the schoolyard. No room at da house. When we moved there, the avg income per working person was 10k/year, and the average household income was 35k/year. That means 3-4 working adults per household. My first job (60-80 hrs/week) paid the rent in a less than fancy house. We had no furniture except a table and some chairs. The second job bought the food. (16-20 hrs/week) The third job paid for school stuff and clothes for the kids. One guy on welfare with section 8 housing made the equivalent of 40k/yr for sitting on their okole. (look it up, the urban dictionary definition is cleaned up) I've never been to Pearl Harbor, except one trip to the Hickam O club with MBCA. Never had a shave ice at Haleiwa. Never watched the surfas on big waves. We did go to Haunama Bay once, but no snorkeling (too expensive to buy or rent) We did take the kids to Waikiki once in a while because it was pretty easy to get to on DaBus and it was fun to watch the tourists. On those days, we took lunch. Restaurants were out of the question. We did hike Diamond Head 2-3 times. We took Chocolate Chip cookie bars and guava juice and maybe lunch. But the CC Bars are tied to standing on top of Diamond Head. Those memories will last forever. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Kleb wrote: > I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of all my crap. It would be a > big change and don't think this risk and hassle would outweigh the reward. > Now if the spot opened up in our region it would be a no brainier as I would > not have to relocate. > Getting rid of stuff is nice. But... I don't know that... yet. The other headaches of managing... yeah, I agree with Gerry - probably nicer to remain a lab rat, but I ended work as lab rat. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kleb wrote: > I have a feeling I would be way out of my okie element in any of these > locations. Wrong caliphate. That Atlantid article that Greg put up sez a bunch to give sense of caliphate. Good read. Yes, SLC would put okiebenz under... but maybe not? It is quite cosmopolitan as far as I have been told. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix / Relocation
+1 I have made world wide moves. You come out poorer most of the time. The only upside is to lifestyle because you REALLY wanted to be there. The geography, the people, the boon to your career or dreams. Dan left much behind with each move. If you can keep some of what you had (home/property-rent it out) then start over in your new location, there is some flex. Moving your belongings tends to lead to broken stuff. Sometimes it pays to just find new things after the move. Not sure what you would do with your car collection. Maybe Regina stays behind and oldest male child can part out cars for you. If you do move, find a place that suits you best. Not all towns are the same. Some just suck, some feel like home. clay On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > No matter how good the deal, you always lose in a relocation. I don’t say > that to be negative or discourage anyone from doing so; rather, to make them > understand that the costs related to moving and setting up household in a new > location will always cost you more than the basic expense f relocation itself. > > If you plan well and do some good record keeping, the tax benefits can offset > some of that expense, but not all. > > What the motivation is is what really counts here. For example, I have > relocated four times. Each time the reasons were different. > > 1.) Indianapolis to Wisconsin (Kohler). Bare minimum expenses were covered, > the better part was out of pocket. Our motivation was career-oriented, so we > knew that if we made the move in the long term it would pay off. It did. We > both built our careers and incomes substantially by making this move. > > 2.) Wisconsin to Florida. All expenses covered, professional movers/packers, > etc. Nicest, easiest move I ever made. Motivation was to slow down career, > spend more time with family, stop traveling. Achieved all of that and more. > > 3.) Florida back to Indianapolis. Major expenses covered, but we had to do > all the work. Brutal, time consuming, took over our lives for several weeks. > Motivation was career oriented for both of us. Economy tanked two months > after we arrived, as did everything else. Ouch. > > 4.) Indianapolis back to Florida. Completely out of pocket, finally putting > much of that debt to rest these days, thank goodness. Done in stages so it > wasn’t a major hassle, but still damned unpleasant and costly. Motivation? > Get the hell out of the North and back to Florida. Mission accomplished. > > I guess my point is that there are a lot of reasons why you might relocate, > but don’t do it on a whim or because the position pays more. Salary > increases make little difference on your living style, and are often > incremental in reality if you’re moving to a more expensive location. A > change of scenery or a true desire to live in another part of the country is > a good reason, but again, you’re not doing this for personal gain - because > you won’t. And if this is your reason, for gosh sakes, please, please do > your due diligence and carefully scout out the location and environs. Spend > a lot of time researching things, and spend as much time as you possibly can > in the area and talking to people who actually live there to understand what > it’s like. I say this because you can’t imagine how many people who visit > Florida will say that they want to move here after a week at Disney World. > > Day to day life here has nothing to do with Disney World, or any of the > “attractions” for that matter. Or going to the beach. People who envision > some sort of Utopian lifestyle because we live near the ocean or the Mouse > are experiencing an altered reality that just doesn’t exist. My days here > are little different from what they were anywhere else I've lived. I have to > go to work, take care of family and household matter, deal with the daily > issues of life we all do no matter where we live. it has nothing to do with > the beach or going to Busch Gardens, nor is that an option. > > Dan > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others in >> this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got fired a >> while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the west coast >> regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would have been >> going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job with carfax >> was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they ended up going >> with a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would have moved from >> my management job to a much less stressful rep job at carfax for much larger >> base but lower bonus portion. It thing that move would have netted about 10k >> more per year. So just from talking to my boss the base for a regional
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix / Relocation
No matter how good the deal, you always lose in a relocation. I don’t say that to be negative or discourage anyone from doing so; rather, to make them understand that the costs related to moving and setting up household in a new location will always cost you more than the basic expense f relocation itself. If you plan well and do some good record keeping, the tax benefits can offset some of that expense, but not all. What the motivation is is what really counts here. For example, I have relocated four times. Each time the reasons were different. 1.) Indianapolis to Wisconsin (Kohler). Bare minimum expenses were covered, the better part was out of pocket. Our motivation was career-oriented, so we knew that if we made the move in the long term it would pay off. It did. We both built our careers and incomes substantially by making this move. 2.) Wisconsin to Florida. All expenses covered, professional movers/packers, etc. Nicest, easiest move I ever made. Motivation was to slow down career, spend more time with family, stop traveling. Achieved all of that and more. 3.) Florida back to Indianapolis. Major expenses covered, but we had to do all the work. Brutal, time consuming, took over our lives for several weeks. Motivation was career oriented for both of us. Economy tanked two months after we arrived, as did everything else. Ouch. 4.) Indianapolis back to Florida. Completely out of pocket, finally putting much of that debt to rest these days, thank goodness. Done in stages so it wasn’t a major hassle, but still damned unpleasant and costly. Motivation? Get the hell out of the North and back to Florida. Mission accomplished. I guess my point is that there are a lot of reasons why you might relocate, but don’t do it on a whim or because the position pays more. Salary increases make little difference on your living style, and are often incremental in reality if you’re moving to a more expensive location. A change of scenery or a true desire to live in another part of the country is a good reason, but again, you’re not doing this for personal gain - because you won’t. And if this is your reason, for gosh sakes, please, please do your due diligence and carefully scout out the location and environs. Spend a lot of time researching things, and spend as much time as you possibly can in the area and talking to people who actually live there to understand what it’s like. I say this because you can’t imagine how many people who visit Florida will say that they want to move here after a week at Disney World. Day to day life here has nothing to do with Disney World, or any of the “attractions” for that matter. Or going to the beach. People who envision some sort of Utopian lifestyle because we live near the ocean or the Mouse are experiencing an altered reality that just doesn’t exist. My days here are little different from what they were anywhere else I've lived. I have to go to work, take care of family and household matter, deal with the daily issues of life we all do no matter where we live. it has nothing to do with the beach or going to Busch Gardens, nor is that an option. Dan > On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others in > this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got fired a > while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the west coast > regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would have been > going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job with carfax > was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they ended up going > with a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would have moved from > my management job to a much less stressful rep job at carfax for much larger > base but lower bonus portion. It thing that move would have netted about 10k > more per year. So just from talking to my boss the base for a regional > manager job with our company would come in a little less than the rep job at > carfax. Not sure what the bonus is but that is where I'm getting the idea > it's not worth it to relocate. > > Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
I have been to California a few times, Denver 1 time, but other than that have not visited the west much other than Craig in NM. I would like to see Reno and Vegas sometime. Yosemite as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oooh! I forgot about Reno, my very favorite Western city, and my jumping off > spot for visits to Yosemite. > > Virginia City is really cool, too, but it’s not someplace you would want to > live, I think. Maybe Bridgeport CA. > > Dan > > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:07 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> Major or Minor airport? The commuter airports in smaller markets hook into >> the big boys. Euguene, Medford, or Redmond Oregon; Bellingham, Wenatchee, >> Walla Walla, Spokane, Tri-Cities, WA,; Boise, Idaho Falls or Lewiston far >> from major cities. There is always Reno. More temperate than LV. >> >> clay >> >> >> >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places >>> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would >>> think I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any >>> business in NM. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your neighborhood. Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re covering an area like that. As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that? Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information might be a bit dated. How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of living. If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about have to live near a major airport I would expect. Dan >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about >> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job >> at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having >> to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue >> would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money >> would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I >> think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way >> too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. > > My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've > been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the > fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before > the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. > > Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY > has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. > > From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a > western town, Gallup is IT! > > Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, > so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list arch
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others in this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got fired a while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the west coast regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would have been going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job with carfax was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they ended up going with a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would have moved from my management job to a much less stressful rep job at carfax for much larger base but lower bonus portion. It thing that move would have netted about 10k more per year. So just from talking to my boss the base for a regional manager job with our company would come in a little less than the rep job at carfax. Not sure what the bonus is but that is where I'm getting the idea it's not worth it to relocate. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The grass is always greener, but in reality, it rarely is. Stay put, enjoy > your stuff and family, and when the next notch up the ladder presents itself > in your neighborhood, go for it. > > I can assure you that in relocations like this, no matter how good they > sound, how much of the costs the company covers, or how much more money you > make, you ALWAYS lose. Sometimes more than others, but you always come out a > little less when the dust settles. > > Take it from someone who has done it more than once. > > Dan > > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market manager. >> Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would be >> managing the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of >> all my crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and hassle >> would outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region it would >> be a no brainier as I would not have to relocate. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. >>> ~~~ >>> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes? >>> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move. >>> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you >>> usually get blamed for what your underlings do. >>> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oooh! I forgot about Reno, my very favorite Western city, and my jumping off spot for visits to Yosemite. Virginia City is really cool, too, but it’s not someplace you would want to live, I think. Maybe Bridgeport CA. Dan > On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:07 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Major or Minor airport? The commuter airports in smaller markets hook into > the big boys. Euguene, Medford, or Redmond Oregon; Bellingham, Wenatchee, > Walla Walla, Spokane, Tri-Cities, WA,; Boise, Idaho Falls or Lewiston far > from major cities. There is always Reno. More temperate than LV. > > clay > > > > On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places >> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think >> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business >> in NM. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. >>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your >>> neighborhood. >>> >>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon >>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. >>> >>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re >>> covering an area like that. >>> >>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in >>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going >>> to be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect >>> that? >>> >>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable >>> as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure >>> how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those >>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information >>> might be a bit dated. >>> >>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of >>> living. >>> >>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about >>> have to live near a major airport I would expect. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about > throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job > at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having > to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue > would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money > would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I > think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way > too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western town, Gallup is IT! Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercede
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Major or Minor airport? The commuter airports in smaller markets hook into the big boys. Euguene, Medford, or Redmond Oregon; Bellingham, Wenatchee, Walla Walla, Spokane, Tri-Cities, WA,; Boise, Idaho Falls or Lewiston far from major cities. There is always Reno. More temperate than LV. clay On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places > like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think > I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business > in NM. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. >> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your >> neighborhood. >> >> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon >> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. >> >> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re >> covering an area like that. >> >> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in >> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to >> be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that? >> >> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable >> as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure >> how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those >> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information >> might be a bit dated. >> >> How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of >> living. >> >> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about >> have to live near a major airport I would expect. >> >> Dan >> >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. >>> >>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've >>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the >>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the >>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. >>> >>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY >>> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. >>> >>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western >>> town, Gallup is IT! >>> >>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so >>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The grass is always greener, but in reality, it rarely is. Stay put, enjoy your stuff and family, and when the next notch up the ladder presents itself in your neighborhood, go for it. I can assure you that in relocations like this, no matter how good they sound, how much of the costs the company covers, or how much more money you make, you ALWAYS lose. Sometimes more than others, but you always come out a little less when the dust settles. Take it from someone who has done it more than once. Dan > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market manager. > Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would be managing > the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of all my > crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and hassle would > outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region it would be a no > brainier as I would not have to relocate. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> >>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about >>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at >>> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to >>> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be >>> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if >>> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in >>> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I >>> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. >> ~~~ >> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes? >> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move. >> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you >> usually get blamed for what your underlings do. >> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market manager. Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would be managing the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of all my crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and hassle would outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region it would be a no brainier as I would not have to relocate. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about >> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at >> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to >> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be >> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if >> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in >> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I >> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. > ~~~ > Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes? > It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move. > Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you > usually get blamed for what your underlings do. > Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Idaho or Utah are relatively inexpensive. ABQ is nice, I hear. Maybe Flagstaff. The coastal states are either tax you to death or cost an arm and leg in metro regions. clay On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing > my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but > would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in > Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do > with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the > additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast > would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking > Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing > my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but > would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in > Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do > with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the > additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast > would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking > Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. ~~~ Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes? It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move. Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you usually get blamed for what your underlings do. Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a feeling I would be way out of my okie element in any of these locations. At the end of the day if I were to proceed and did by some long shot get the move up, it would mean a fundamental change of life style. I would have to sell all or most of my cars and parts. In the end I am not sore of the money would be worth it or not. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Boise is nice if you don’t mind winter. It’s surprisingly mild, much like > Denver can be, due to the location. I would absolutely go to Boise if I had > to move north of the Mason-Dixon Line. > > You’ll have to put up with a lot of Mormons, though. It’s sort of a second > Salt Lake City of sorts. > > Dan > > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places >> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think >> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business >> in NM. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. >>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your >>> neighborhood. >>> >>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon >>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. >>> >>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re >>> covering an area like that. >>> >>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in >>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going >>> to be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect >>> that? >>> >>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable >>> as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure >>> how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those >>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information >>> might be a bit dated. >>> >>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of >>> living. >>> >>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about >>> have to live near a major airport I would expect. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about > throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job > at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having > to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue > would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money > would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I > think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way > too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western town, Gallup is IT! Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives
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Eh, you don’t want to go there. Trust me. Dan > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Forgot SAlt lake city > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> >> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places >> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think >> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business >> in NM. >> >> Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Boise is nice if you don’t mind winter. It’s surprisingly mild, much like Denver can be, due to the location. I would absolutely go to Boise if I had to move north of the Mason-Dixon Line. You’ll have to put up with a lot of Mormons, though. It’s sort of a second Salt Lake City of sorts. Dan > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places > like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think > I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business > in NM. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. >> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your >> neighborhood. >> >> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon >> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. >> >> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re >> covering an area like that. >> >> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in >> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to >> be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that? >> >> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable >> as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure >> how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those >> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information >> might be a bit dated. >> >> How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of >> living. >> >> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about >> have to live near a major airport I would expect. >> >> Dan >> >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. >>> >>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've >>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the >>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the >>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. >>> >>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY >>> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. >>> >>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western >>> town, Gallup is IT! >>> >>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so >>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Forgot SAlt lake city Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places > like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think > I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business > in NM. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. >> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your >> neighborhood. >> >> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon >> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. >> >> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re >> covering an area like that. >> >> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in >> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to >> be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that? >> >> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable >> as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure >> how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those >> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information >> might be a bit dated. >> >> How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of >> living. >> >> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about >> have to live near a major airport I would expect. >> >> Dan >> >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. >>> >>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've >>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the >>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the >>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. >>> >>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY >>> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. >>> >>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western >>> town, Gallup is IT! >>> >>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so >>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business in NM. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. > Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your neighborhood. > > Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon > is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. > > Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re > covering an area like that. > > As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in > Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to > be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that? > > Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable as > where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure how > that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those parts, > but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information might be a > bit dated. > > How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of living. > > If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about have > to live near a major airport I would expect. > > Dan > > >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about >>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at >>> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to >>> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be >>> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if >>> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in >>> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I >>> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. >> >> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've >> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the >> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the >> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. >> >> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY has >> been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. >> >> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western >> town, Gallup is IT! >> >> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so >> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Grand Junction? Are you nuts? He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your neighborhood. Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks. Eastern Oregon is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state. Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re covering an area like that. As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to be significantly higher. I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that? Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable as where you are now. However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure how that compares to where you are now. Mao and Craig have lived in those parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information might be a bit dated. How’s about Albuquerque, NM? Good location, probably a decent cost of living. If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about have to live near a major airport I would expect. Dan > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > >> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about >> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at >> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to >> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be >> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if >> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in >> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I >> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. > > My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've > been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the > fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the > invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. > > Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY has > been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. > > From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western > town, Gallup is IT! > > Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so > mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com High today 57. Locals have on the goose down jacket. My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there. The couple times I've been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice. CO is invested by the fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle. Seattle used to be nice before the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways. Passing through, i liked Billings, MT NO problem there with packin. WY has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole. From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM. If you like the feel of a western town, Gallup is IT! Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Phoenix
What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat
On 13/10/2012 10:46 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will have. Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some "lead foot" could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light. RLE ___ That is why the rear of the Prius is sloped like it is - so the F250's can go over them without catching on the bumper. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I took a road trip a coupla weeks ago and saw several Piouses being driven on the interstate and 80+mph, passing me. Go figure. So much for saving the planet. --R On 10/13/12 11:46 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will have. Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some "lead foot" could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sure wish the thousands upon thousands of snowbirds felt the way you do. Good for our economy? Sure if you own a business but for the average resident, it adds untold frustration and increased expense. John On Oct 13, 2012 11:03 PM, wrote: > > ...As if you needed another reason to explain why Phoenix sucks... > > > My sister has lived there since the '60s and says "ooh, we love it." I've > told that if she cares to see me, she can come up here. They say it's a dry > heat and I say so is a crematorium. > > I've made the trip by light plane but it's an all day haul and very bumpy > when you get East of L.A. > > RLE > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Phoenix may suck in the summer with 115F heat... but try shoveling sunshine all winter just once and you will change your tune. I have seen temps here inside a closed car [measured] of 180+ at high summer season. Plan accordingly. At the Ranch I've measured ground temps [mid summer] of 190F+. On the plus side... rust is unknown [well, nearly unknown]. Humidity is often below 12%. If you are tough enough to live here in summer, welcome to Arizona.. but bring your own 4X4 truck with air conditioning... your Prius won't cut it outside the city.. Grant... On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:03 PM, wrote: > > ...As if you needed another reason to explain why Phoenix sucks... > > > My sister has lived there since the '60s and says "ooh, we love it." I've > told that if she cares to see me, she can come up here. They say it's a dry > heat and I say so is a crematorium. > > I've made the trip by light plane but it's an all day haul and very bumpy > when you get East of L.A. > > RLE > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> ...As if you needed another reason to explain why Phoenix sucks... > My sister has lived there since the '60s and says "ooh, we love it." I've told that if she cares to see me, she can come up here. They say it's a dry heat and I say so is a crematorium. I've made the trip by light plane but it's an all day haul and very bumpy when you get East of L.A. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat
> .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will have. Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some "lead foot" could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light. RLE Some are like that for sure. But around here, many act like they think they are NASCAR drivers. Some gas savings... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat
As if you needed another reason to explain why Phoenix sucks. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM, wrote: > > .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will > > have. > > Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking > > lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some "lead > > foot" could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material > > > This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are > all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little > go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times > without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light. > > RLE > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat
> .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will > have. > Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking > lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some "lead > foot" could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material > This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
My son is a vegan, has a buffed physique, and doesn't wear leather. He rescues and fosters animals (pets) but is anything but a radical. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Go the link I provided then get back to me. > > If it has lungs, I don't eat it. If it has gills, come to daddy. > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:01 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have you tried Bison (buffalo)? Almost fat free - and tasty! > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Go the link I provided then get back to me. If it has lungs, I don't eat it. If it has gills, come to daddy. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:01 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you tried Bison (buffalo)? Almost fat free - and tasty! > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Have you tried Bison (buffalo)? Almost fat free - and tasty! > > I am one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism > > I have zero desire for a steak ... but don't get between me and a pound of > shrimp or some smoked salmon, or you just might get run over. Shrimp fajitas > and I are almost on a first name basis. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
O. M. G. !!! > > I have one of these (the roast) in the freezer but haven't tried it yet. > > http://www.tofurky.com/products/tofurkyfeasts.htm > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was probably stupid enough 35 years ago (that would have put me at age 21) to tackle the quad, and eat it just to prove that I could. By the way, I am not vegan. Vegans can be a bit strange and radical -- especially the ones who refuse to wear leather shoes because the leather came from an oppressed animal. I go to work each day in blue Converse sneakers by choice (and a touch of rebellion) and not due to anything related to vegan pseudo-morality. My watchband and my belt and my wallet are leather. I am one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism I have zero desire for a steak ... but don't get between me and a pound of shrimp or some smoked salmon, or you just might get run over. Shrimp fajitas and I are almost on a first name basis. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That baby is in your vegan nightmares. > > Bob R. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
That baby is in your vegan nightmares. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phoenix I didn't even eat Thanksgiving turkey so imagine how the Quad looks to me! On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the kids say, that place is off the hook. They need defibrillators in > the > lobby. Go there after your bloodwork. > > Bob R > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:03 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phoenix > > Do you plan to visit here? > > http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:45 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Robert Rentfro wrote: > > > >> Which John is coming to Phx? > >> > > > > That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the > > 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like > to > > finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. > > Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! > ;) > > > > If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure > > which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back > > (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). > > > > John > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Chuck Landenberger wrote: I presume this is December 28 and January 3 Yep. Sorry, guys.. I'm going to be in Hawaii.. Somebody has to do it. Visiting with son and dil and 2 g'kids. What, Phoenix wasn't warm enough for you? ;) Have a good time visiting with family! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
My kind of meal. I have one of these (the roast) in the freezer but haven't tried it yet. http://www.tofurky.com/products/tofurkyfeasts.htm On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hey Don, my brother and his wife served up mushroom ragout, vegetable stew, > saffron rice, pureed root vegetables, green tossed salad, and breads and > pies (apple and pecan) for Thanksgiving. What turkey?? > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I didn't even eat Thanksgiving turkey so imagine how the Quad looks to > me! > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Hey Don, my brother and his wife served up mushroom ragout, vegetable stew, saffron rice, pureed root vegetables, green tossed salad, and breads and pies (apple and pecan) for Thanksgiving. What turkey?? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't even eat Thanksgiving turkey so imagine how the Quad looks to me! > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As the kids say, that place is off the hook. They need defibrillators in > > the > > lobby. Go there after your bloodwork. > > > > Bob R > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane > > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:03 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phoenix > > > > Do you plan to visit here? > > > > http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:45 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Robert Rentfro wrote: > > > > > >> Which John is coming to Phx? > > >> > > > > > > That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of > the > > > 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd > like > > to > > > finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other > obligations. > > > Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! > > ;) > > > > > > If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not > sure > > > which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back > > > (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). > > > > > > John > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
I didn't even eat Thanksgiving turkey so imagine how the Quad looks to me! On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the kids say, that place is off the hook. They need defibrillators in > the > lobby. Go there after your bloodwork. > > Bob R > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:03 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phoenix > > Do you plan to visit here? > > http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:45 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Robert Rentfro wrote: > > > >> Which John is coming to Phx? > >> > > > > That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the > > 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like > to > > finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. > > Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! > ;) > > > > If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure > > which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back > > (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). > > > > John > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
pretty sure, will check to make sure andrew strasfogel wrote: Hey Kaleb, did you ship my order yet? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Oh yea, I should be free. John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well Im about 40 miles north of I40. I may swing up there on the way back. Last trip back we ended up staying nearly due south of you. Greg needs to see you're backyard so don't sell all of them by then. We'll have some fun in the CDI too. You free the night of Jan 3rd and the next morning? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Hi John and Bob. I presume this is December 28 and January 3 Sorry, guys.. I'm going to be in Hawaii.. Somebody has to do it. Visiting with son and dil and 2 g'kids. Take care, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
As the kids say, that place is off the hook. They need defibrillators in the lobby. Go there after your bloodwork. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phoenix Do you plan to visit here? http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:45 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Rentfro wrote: > >> Which John is coming to Phx? >> > > That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the > 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like to > finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. > Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! ;) > > If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure > which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back > (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Do you plan to visit here? http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:45 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Rentfro wrote: > >> Which John is coming to Phx? >> > > That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the > 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like to > finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. > Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! ;) > > If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure > which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back > (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Hey Kaleb, did you ship my order yet? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Oh yea, I should be free. > > John Robbins wrote: > >> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> >>> Well Im about 40 miles north of I40. >>> >> >> I may swing up there on the way back. Last trip back we ended up staying >> nearly due south of you. Greg needs to see you're backyard so don't sell >> all of them by then. We'll have some fun in the CDI too. >> >> You free the night of Jan 3rd and the next morning? >> >> John >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: >> 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM >> >> > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:41:30 -0600 John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:45:54 -0600 John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. > > > > We're about 50 miles north of I-40 as it passes through New Mexico. > > > Google maps says it's about two hours from I-40... Is there a shortcut > GMaps isn't aware of? Unfortunately, no. If you're not going during rush hour, it's probably more like 1.5 hours. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:45:54 -0600 John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. We're about 50 miles north of I-40 as it passes through New Mexico. Google maps says it's about two hours from I-40... Is there a shortcut GMaps isn't aware of? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:45:54 -0600 John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. We're about 50 miles north of I-40 as it passes through New Mexico. Craig Los Alamos ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
I'm sure we can figure it out. Hey Chuck...Mr. Jim. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phoenix Robert Rentfro wrote: > Which John is coming to Phx? That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like to finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! ;) If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Oh yea, I should be free. John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well Im about 40 miles north of I40. I may swing up there on the way back. Last trip back we ended up staying nearly due south of you. Greg needs to see you're backyard so don't sell all of them by then. We'll have some fun in the CDI too. You free the night of Jan 3rd and the next morning? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well Im about 40 miles north of I40. I may swing up there on the way back. Last trip back we ended up staying nearly due south of you. Greg needs to see you're backyard so don't sell all of them by then. We'll have some fun in the CDI too. You free the night of Jan 3rd and the next morning? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Well Im about 40 miles north of I40. John Robbins wrote: Robert Rentfro wrote: Which John is coming to Phx? That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like to finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! ;) If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix
Robert Rentfro wrote: Which John is coming to Phx? That would be me! The current game plan is to show up the evening of the 28th and leave on the 3rd (Dad's flight leaves at 6AM... ugh!). I'd like to finally meet up with you since you always seem to have other obligations. Last time you passed up the meeting for a root canal! I mean, come on! ;) If anyone along I-40 or I-10 wants to meet up I'd like to. I'm not sure which interstate I'll be taking yet. Probably I-10 there and I-40 back (leaving from my parent's house on the coast). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix weather
<> > Chuck Phoenix AZ>> > Uhhh, yeah, Chuck. I saw yesterday's Phoenix sand storm on TV last night. Weather, indeed. Come to think of it, it reminded me of "Flight of the Phoenix." RLE > >
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix 240D color
I think I et a popsicle that color once. RLE
[MBZ] Phoenix
So, maybe, the Phoenix WAS a C-82/119; thought it may be a Canuk something similar. Thnx. Wilton
[MBZ] Phoenix Craigslist MB's
No Diesels Sorry, but I'm not in charge. Aug-12 1997 Mercedes S500 - $19990 (Scottsdale, Arizona) Aug-12 1997 Mercedes - Benz E 320 immaculate - $11500 (Phoenix) pic Aug-10 Classic 1974 Mercedes 450SL coup - $5000 (Gold Canyon,AZ) Aug-10 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190E - $2400 (Chandler) Aug-10 1999 Mercedes Benz CLK 430 AMG - $27500 (phoenix) pic Aug- 9 Mercedes 190e 2.6, Nicest Around Town Cheap - $2000 (Ahwatukee(PHX)) Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix Indy.
David, Of course. It's Bud Cloninger, MB Motors owner, 2730 E. McDowell Road in Phoenix. Phone - 602-392-0686 Take care, Chuck On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 11:28 PM, David Johnson wrote: Chuck, Who's your trusted indy? I don't need one right now, but would like to keep his name on file if he's "sharable." Thanks. David --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: later, it came loose again.. Got it to my Phoenix indy __ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix Indy. Was: Crankshaft dampner off on 240D
Chuck, Who's your trusted indy? I don't need one right now, but would like to keep his name on file if he's "sharable." Thanks. David --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > later, it came loose again.. Got it to my > Phoenix indy __ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
