Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I agree - so my kids learned to drive a standard tranny in the 240D that
their grandfather bought new (just as the Alzheimer's was setting in. Our
son then bought two 190D's from Kaleb, took the manual tranny from one and
swapped it into the other that had been auto. He learned  LOT doing that,
much of it what NOT to do.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 5:00 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Well, I still think a 240D is ideal.   Forgiving, and not enough power
> to get into high speed or drag race trouble.   240D 4 speed.  Unless you
> can find a OM615 or OM621 powered MB.   #1 son learned in the 240D auto
> then transitioned to 200D 4 speed.
>
> > Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> > February 21, 2020 at 4:01 PM
> >
> > Arguably the exact opposite of what you want.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I agree with a diesel VW as second. The MB will be easier to find the shift 
gates on for a new shifter.
Actually a 190D is also a good choice...

Curt

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  On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 6:00 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   Well, I still think a 240D is ideal.   
Forgiving, and not enough power 
to get into high speed or drag race trouble.   240D 4 speed.  Unless you 
can find a OM615 or OM621 powered MB.   #1 son learned in the 240D auto 
then transitioned to 200D 4 speed.

> Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> February 21, 2020 at 4:01 PM
>
> Arguably the exact opposite of what you want.
>
> -- Jim
>

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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:08:21 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> then there are things like driveshafts, shifters, shifter linkages, new 
> pedal set, hydraulics, speedo drive, etc.

Ayup.


Craig


> > Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> > February 21, 2020 at 10:27 PM
> >
> > Look for a manual trans from an SL or SLK, that era will bolt up to 
> > OM60X. Six speed too.

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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

then there are things like driveshafts, shifters, shifter linkages, new 
pedal set, hydraulics, speedo drive, etc.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 21, 2020 at 10:27 PM

Look for a manual trans from an SL or SLK, that era will bolt up to 
OM60X. Six speed too.




Max Dillon
Charleston SC



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[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Ok thanks will look into the slk etc. I am not confident any of them will
take the torque, but it seems odd that some sort of gwagen or higher
performance car would never have had a robust manual. I think the w201
pedals etc will all fit.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 8:28 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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>
> Look for a manual trans from an SL or SLK, that era will bolt up to OM60X.
> Six speed too.
>
>
> Feb 21, 2020 3:22:51 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :
>
> > I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation. Would
> > prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
> > there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Look for a manual trans from an SL or SLK, that era will bolt up to OM60X. Six 
speed too.


Feb 21, 2020 3:22:51 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :

> I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation. Would
> prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
> there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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> On February 21, 2020 at 5:01 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > He said they were wonderful for teaching people to drive a standard 
> > transmission because the diesel had enough torque at low rpm that it was 
> > very difficult to stall it.
> 
> Arguably the exact opposite of what you want.

Mom let me stall her 1977 Nova 10-20 times starting out on a hill when I was 
15. I didn't want to drag the clutch, I wanted to get it right. When I finally 
got it right once I was set for life. I think I impressed the SoS (DMV) tester 
that I took my road test with a 3 on the tree. (which was a lot easier than the 
F100 with a cap on the back would have been, but harder than my brother's Mazda 
GLC that I'd done most of my driving in).

Mitch.

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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Therefore Karl and the kids need an AZ-1.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a13445021/you-must-buy-autozam-az-1/

> On February 21, 2020 at 4:02 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:

> But, if they sit on the right and shift with their left hand, they are 
> learning to drive in England.

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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, I still think a 240D is ideal.   Forgiving, and not enough power 
to get into high speed or drag race trouble.   240D 4 speed.  Unless you 
can find a OM615 or OM621 powered MB.   #1 son learned in the 240D auto 
then transitioned to 200D 4 speed.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
February 21, 2020 at 4:01 PM

Arguably the exact opposite of what you want.

-- Jim



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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I spent all summer every year for many years on a Farmall A cultivating 
tomatoes.  You sit about the same level as the clutch and brake petals.  
You shift gears with your left hand.  I called it my British sports 
car.  I was 9 to probably 15.   It was built in Feb 1942 without 
anything electric or hydraulic, except the magneto.  If I killed it 
(Very easy to do with the cultivator down) I had to jump down, run to 
the front and crank it.   Eventually we got a bellhousing for a starter, 
a starter battery box, wiring harness and lights for it.  I was probably 
14 when I split the tractor and put in the bell housing, starter and 
other stuff.   It was always a fun tractor to drive, although I did get 
very sick of tomatoes, and cultivating tomatoes.  In those years, we had 
tomatoes every day, and sometimes twice a day.


My suggestion for having the kid shift is to get an old ford truck (3/4T 
or more) with the old ford cab ranger 4 spd floor shift transmission  
(truck transmission)  1946-66 for sure, maybe later. That gear shift 
spans so much of the cab that it is easy to know if the kid has it in 
the right notch.   That is why they were called cab rangers.   R is up 
by the steering column.  1/2 is in the vicinity of the radio and 3/4 is 
over by the glove box door.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
February 21, 2020 at 3:02 PM

But, if they sit on the right and shift with their left hand, they are 
learning to drive in England.


RB



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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Ahhh... my error. I presumed it was a child ready to take license test.
Now I understand the circumstance.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:31 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> When I was a kid, Dad only steered and pushed the clutch in. I ran the
> lever. Was sort of looking for something similar. They are only 9 and 7.
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 12:26 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Just a suggestion. Since the child is "learning" to manage a stick. Why
> not
> > pick up a rice burner cheap beater stick shift and let him/her "use it
> up"
> > while learning to manage a manual vehicle?
> > ie, cheap throw away car [in principle]
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation.
> Would
> > > prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
> > > there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something. Seem
> > like
> > > everybody just does the 722.6 thing if they want performance.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 12:57 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive...
> > > >
> > > > I have a picture of him in a baby bucket in the back of the Chicken
> > > > Wagon.  Had the
> > > > CW a manual tranny that would have been his car to drive.  But, he'd
> > been
> > > > along with
> > > > me, at about age 3, when I bought the 190D that he's driving, so
> that's
> > > > good enough.
> > > >
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Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> He said they were wonderful for teaching people to drive a standard 
>> transmission because the diesel had enough torque at low rpm that it was 
>> very difficult to stall it.
>
> Arguably the exact opposite of what you want.

But nice for the people driving behind you.

Allan

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> He said they were wonderful for teaching people to drive a standard 
> transmission because the diesel had enough torque at low rpm that it was very 
> difficult to stall it.

Arguably the exact opposite of what you want.

-- Jim


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On 21/02/2020 2:30 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

When I was a kid, Dad only steered and pushed the clutch in. I ran the
lever. Was sort of looking for something similar. They are only 9 and 7.

But, if they sit on the right and shift with their left hand, they are 
learning to drive in England.


RB


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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/02/2020 2:21 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation. Would
prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something. Seem like
everybody just does the 722.6 thing if they want performance.

A former neighbor had 2 old VW Jetta diesels. He said they were 
wonderful for teaching people to drive a standard transmission because 
the diesel had enough torque at low rpm that it was very difficult to 
stall it.


RB


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[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

When I was a kid, Dad only steered and pushed the clutch in. I ran the
lever. Was sort of looking for something similar. They are only 9 and 7.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 12:26 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Just a suggestion. Since the child is "learning" to manage a stick. Why not
> pick up a rice burner cheap beater stick shift and let him/her "use it up"
> while learning to manage a manual vehicle?
> ie, cheap throw away car [in principle]
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation. Would
> > prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
> > there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something. Seem
> like
> > everybody just does the 722.6 thing if they want performance.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 12:57 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive...
> > >
> > > I have a picture of him in a baby bucket in the back of the Chicken
> > > Wagon.  Had the
> > > CW a manual tranny that would have been his car to drive.  But, he'd
> been
> > > along with
> > > me, at about age 3, when I bought the 190D that he's driving, so that's
> > > good enough.
> > >
> > > -- Jim
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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Just a suggestion. Since the child is "learning" to manage a stick. Why not
pick up a rice burner cheap beater stick shift and let him/her "use it up"
while learning to manage a manual vehicle?
ie, cheap throw away car [in principle]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation. Would
> prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
> there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something. Seem like
> everybody just does the 722.6 thing if they want performance.
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 12:57 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > > It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive...
> >
> > I have a picture of him in a baby bucket in the back of the Chicken
> > Wagon.  Had the
> > CW a manual tranny that would have been his car to drive.  But, he'd been
> > along with
> > me, at about age 3, when I bought the 190D that he's driving, so that's
> > good enough.
> >
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I am in need of a stick shift for education of the next generation. Would
prefer not to butcher the 124 wagon with a bmw manny tranny. Seems like
there should be some merc stick option from an amg or something. Seem like
everybody just does the 722.6 thing if they want performance.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 12:57 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive...
>
> I have a picture of him in a baby bucket in the back of the Chicken
> Wagon.  Had the
> CW a manual tranny that would have been his car to drive.  But, he'd been
> along with
> me, at about age 3, when I bought the 190D that he's driving, so that's
> good enough.
>
> -- Jim
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That is worthy of ATTA BOY

clay

> On Feb 19, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Sunday my son changed out, pretty much all on his own, the
> passenger-side door check in the 190D he's driving.  We had
> already done the driver's-side check last year.
> 
> -- Jim
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> It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive...

I have a picture of him in a baby bucket in the back of the Chicken Wagon.  Had 
the
CW a manual tranny that would have been his car to drive.  But, he'd been along 
with
me, at about age 3, when I bought the 190D that he's driving, so that's good 
enough.

-- Jim

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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

A sign of maturity!




(otherwise, a mark of old age)   Yeah, I remember when he was born. 
etc.   Stuff that happened 20 or 25 years ago seems recent to me.


When I was a kid, the neighbor's Model T seemed ancient, but now 123s 
are more ancient than it was then.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
February 19, 2020 at 1:13 PM
It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive but then I 
think back and realize I've been on this list and its predecessor for 
nearly 17 years now...
I've got an upcoming class where we give away some swag. My boss 
suggested this year we do backpacks because it had been several years 
since we'd done that last. I thought "that was like the year before 
last." until I checked and realized it had been 6 years, my how time 
flies...


-Curt



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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive but then I think back 
and realize I've been on this list and its predecessor for nearly 17 years 
now...
I've got an upcoming class where we give away some swag. My boss suggested this 
year we do backpacks because it had been several years since we'd done that 
last. I thought "that was like the year before last." until I checked and 
realized it had been 6 years, my how time flies...

-Curt

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 1:26:27 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Sunday my son changed out, pretty much all on his own, the
passenger-side door check in the 190D he's driving.  We had
already done the driver's-side check last year.

-- Jim


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Sunday my son changed out, pretty much all on his own, the
passenger-side door check in the 190D he's driving.  We had
already done the driver's-side check last year.

-- Jim


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On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:12:53 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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> Well, this one was #68 so I am a bit beyond 39.

39 and some months ...


Craig

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But your Mercedes is WAY younger...

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 5:13 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Well, this one was #68 so I am a bit beyond 39.
>
> RB
>
> On 18/02/2020 4:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yes, Happy 39th birthday! (jack Benny reference)
> >
> >
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, this one was #68 so I am a bit beyond 39.

RB

On 18/02/2020 4:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, Happy 39th birthday! (jack Benny reference)





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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, Happy 39th birthday! (jack Benny reference)



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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I do, but I won't.   The maytags are still great.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
February 18, 2020 at 3:30 PM
We are reduced to talking about washing machines.

Anyone got a spare MB tri-star emblem that they can install on their 
washer and then post a photo of so that we can remain sort of on topic?


RB



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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OT:  Happy Birthday Randy

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:31 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> We are reduced to talking about washing machines.
>
> Anyone got a spare MB tri-star emblem that they can install on their
> washer and then post a photo of so that we can remain sort of on topic?
>
> RB
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[MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

We are reduced to talking about washing machines.

Anyone got a spare MB tri-star emblem that they can install on their 
washer and then post a photo of so that we can remain sort of on topic?


RB


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It's not fair to disparage Nigerian scammers.  Some of them have families
and drive Mercedes Benz, like the rest of us.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:11 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> An LED lamp can be added to the solatube so that light is to be had during
> the night.  The tubes provided ample daylight to dark areas of the house.
> Not sure of the payback schedule v. electric, but bathrooms and hallways no
> longer need to burn electrons for 12 hours a day, all year long.  It also
> works ok for night use if there is ambient light outside.  I have one in my
> outhouse, mom has one in her bathroom.  It is not dazzling light.  It is
> full spectrum and good enough at night to keep you from piddling on the
> floor without turning on the lights and destroying night vision.
>
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Would a nice new LED light fixture not solve the problem with a lot less
> fuss?
> >
> > RB
> >
> >
> > On 20/01/2015 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I have wanted to do this for a long time, and in other homes as well,
> but never got around to it.
> >>
> >> Our current home has very little in the way of outside light coming in
> to the main living area, primarily due to the back of the house being "U"
> shaped with a roof over the center of the "U".  At the bottom of the "U"
> are sliding glass doors opening into our family room and kitchen area.
> While this side of the house faces south, there are 60' oak trees at the
> back of our very shallow back yard that block the sun even more.  As a
> result of this the interior portion of the house is what I often refer to
> as being "tomb-like".
> >>
> >> Adding tubular skylights to this area would go a long way to lightening
> it up, but before I can convince SWMBO of such a significant alteration to
> the living area I'm going to do it in the laundry room.  This is a room off
> the garage that we enter and exit through, and it has no outside exposure
> whatsoever. By putting a tubular skylight here I know the impression will
> be a favorable one, ideally gaining acceptance for the method and allowing
> me to move forward in doing the same for the living area.
> >>
> >> While I have been a fan of Solatube, I found that the Velux line that
> is readily available through the big box home improvement stores is just as
> good and nowhere near as pricey.
> >>
> >> Home Depot is cheaper than Lowe's, but I prefer working with Lowe's.
> I'm going to swing by there today and see if they will match Home Depot's
> price, as it's about $30 cheaper.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed
> some light on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[clay via Mercedes]

An LED lamp can be added to the solatube so that light is to be had during the 
night.  The tubes provided ample daylight to dark areas of the house.  Not sure 
of the payback schedule v. electric, but bathrooms and hallways no longer need 
to burn electrons for 12 hours a day, all year long.  It also works ok for 
night use if there is ambient light outside.  I have one in my outhouse, mom 
has one in her bathroom.  It is not dazzling light.  It is full spectrum and 
good enough at night to keep you from piddling on the floor without turning on 
the lights and destroying night vision.



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On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

> Would a nice new LED light fixture not solve the problem with a lot less fuss?
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 20/01/2015 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have wanted to do this for a long time, and in other homes as well, but 
>> never got around to it.
>> 
>> Our current home has very little in the way of outside light coming in to 
>> the main living area, primarily due to the back of the house being "U" 
>> shaped with a roof over the center of the "U".  At the bottom of the "U" are 
>> sliding glass doors opening into our family room and kitchen area. While 
>> this side of the house faces south, there are 60' oak trees at the back of 
>> our very shallow back yard that block the sun even more.  As a result of 
>> this the interior portion of the house is what I often refer to as being 
>> "tomb-like".
>> 
>> Adding tubular skylights to this area would go a long way to lightening it 
>> up, but before I can convince SWMBO of such a significant alteration to the 
>> living area I'm going to do it in the laundry room.  This is a room off the 
>> garage that we enter and exit through, and it has no outside exposure 
>> whatsoever. By putting a tubular skylight here I know the impression will be 
>> a favorable one, ideally gaining acceptance for the method and allowing me 
>> to move forward in doing the same for the living area.
>> 
>> While I have been a fan of Solatube, I found that the Velux line that is 
>> readily available through the big box home improvement stores is just as 
>> good and nowhere near as pricey.
>> 
>> Home Depot is cheaper than Lowe's, but I prefer working with Lowe's.  I'm 
>> going to swing by there today and see if they will match Home Depot's price, 
>> as it's about $30 cheaper.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed some 
>>> light on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window.
>>> 
>>> --
>>>  
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Yes.  I just finished stripping about 400 sf of roof to put down a double
layer of ice and snow block to cure a stubborn series of leaks over a
shallow cricket.  IMO. CFLs and LEDs just don't cost that much to run.
Besides, a little waste heat is a bonus half of the year.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Curly McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:53 PM
> 
> >Free sunlight would not be enough for me to cut a hole in my roof.
> 
> Now you sound like Wilton!(or anyone else who ever had to chase
> leaks in a roof)
> 


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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

G: Problem ... is that the [sky]light is not regulated.


Que?  Nor is window light regulated.  I still prefer it,
when it's available.

-- Jim


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Won’t be the last hole I’ll cut in a roof.  If it’s done carefully and 
correctly, leaks should be the last thing to worry about.

I’ve cut holes in a number of roofs for skylights, exhaust stacks, fans, etc.  
Never had a leak to this day.

Dan



> On Jan 20, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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>> Free sunlight would not be enough for me to cut a hole in my roof.
> 
> Now you sound like Wilton!(or anyone else who ever had to chase leaks in 
> a roof)
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Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Free sunlight would not be enough for me to cut a hole in my roof.


Now you sound like Wilton!(or anyone else who ever had to chase 
leaks in a roof)


When I bought my current house, with plans to put in a 95% furnace, my realtor 
suggested I tear out the masonry chimney and put in a 2nd bathroom closet.
I thought he was nuts. It's a lot of work to disassemble a chimney, then you've 
got a 18" square hole in the roof to fix, then you have to build a closet that's 
only a few feet away from an existing closet...


After I switched to an electric water heater, I siliconed a 12" square patio 
block to the top of the 8" clay flue and a steel plate over the flue entry hole 
in the basement to seal off the chimney. If anybody wants to put a woodburner in 
some day, there's a good chimney ready to use.


Mitch.

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[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Free sunlight would not be enough for me to cut a hole in my roof.


Now you sound like Wilton!(or anyone else who ever had to chase 
leaks in a roof)


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Free sunlight would not be enough for me to cut a hole in my roof.

> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:07 PM
> 
> It would, but sunlight is free.
> 
> > On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> >


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[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Stall is all about airspeed (not enough) and angle of attack (too much).
Amazing vertical wind currents are possible around thunder storms.
Downdrafts can be dangerous.  I don't see how an updraft would cause a crash
unless the flight crew was disoriented and made bad choices or structural
limits were exceeded.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> archer75--- via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 5:16 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list
> 
> 
> This being a quiet day on the list, I have a question about the Air Asia
flight
> that went down.
> Todays news websites report that the plane apparently climbed at 600
> ft/min, stalled, and then crashed. That rate of climb is beyond its
capability
> without stalling according to the reports.
> My question is: could the storm the plane was trying to avoid have had
> updrafts severe enough to "lift" the plane at that rate of ascent?
> The pilot on a blog I accessed described what can happen when a plane gets
> out of its "envelope" but doesn't mention anything about the storm itself
> possibly having been responsible for the rapid ascent.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
> https://jethead.wordpress.com/
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

That is why you get one of the ones with the solar panel that charges 
it. Free power and no new hole in the roof AND it works at night in the 
dark.


RB

On 20/01/2015 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It would, but sunlight is free.


On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Would a nice new LED light fixture not solve the problem with a lot less fuss?

RB



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On 20/01/2015 4:15 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

This being a quiet day on the list, I have a question about the Air Asia flight 
that went down.
Todays news websites report that the plane apparently climbed at 600 ft/min, 
stalled, and then crashed. That rate of climb is beyond its capability without 
stalling according to the reports.
My question is: could the storm the plane was trying to avoid have had updrafts severe 
enough to "lift" the plane at that rate of ascent?
The pilot on a blog I accessed described what can happen when a plane gets out of its 
"envelope" but doesn't mention anything about the storm itself possibly having 
been responsible for the rapid ascent.
Thanks,
Gerry

https://jethead.wordpress.com/

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I am not an engineer or a pilot for that matter but it would not make 
sense to me that the plane would stall if the storm was lifting it at 
that rate. That would make it sort of like a glider would it not?
Isn't it more likely that the storm in some manner interfered with the 
instrumentation so that the pilots were unaware that they were stalling? 
Is that not what happened with the Air France plane that went down in 
the Atlantic?


RB

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.  Stuff like this is special order.  I don’t think they stock anything 
like this.

It’s due to arrive on the 27th, so it’s not far away.

Dan


> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> Ah, I thought it was a stock item.
> 
> 
> Craig
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:20:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> Craig - Lowe’s won’t price match special orders.  I ordered it form
> them anyway, as I am letting them carry the paper on my Lowe’s account
> for six months.  Then I’ll pay them….

Ah, I thought it was a stock item.


Craig

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Point well taken.  There is an existing ceiling fixture that won’t be removed, 
so there is a backup if necessary.  It is set up with CFLs right now.

You can get lights to mount inside the tube.

Craig - Lowe’s won’t price match special orders.  I ordered it form them 
anyway, as I am letting them carry the paper on my Lowe’s account for six 
months.  Then I’ll pay them….

Dan


> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:03 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>> 
> G: Problem with the one that was installed when we had the house built in 
> 1996 is that the light is not regulated. (Later models may have a regulation 
> feature?)
> When clouds are passing over; especially small clouds; the room can 
> annoyingly go bright-dark-bright-dark repeatedly.
> Since the cost of LED lighting is fairly low, I'm thinking of blocking the 
> Solatube and installing an LED fixture in it or over it.
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[MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

This being a quiet day on the list, I have a question about the Air Asia flight 
that went down.
Todays news websites report that the plane apparently climbed at 600 ft/min, 
stalled, and then crashed. That rate of climb is beyond its capability without 
stalling according to the reports.
My question is: could the storm the plane was trying to avoid have had updrafts 
severe enough to "lift" the plane at that rate of ascent?
The pilot on a blog I accessed described what can happen when a plane gets out 
of its "envelope" but doesn't mention anything about the storm itself possibly 
having been responsible for the rapid ascent.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It would, but sunlight is free.

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> Would a nice new LED light fixture not solve the problem with a lot less fuss?
> 
> RB
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:44:00 -0700
Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:03:58 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > While I have been a fan of Solatube, I found that the Velux line that
> > is readily available through the big box home improvement stores is
> > just as good and nowhere near as pricey.
> 
> Thank you for the information.
> 
> 
> > Home Depot is cheaper than Lowe's, but I prefer working with Lowe's.
> > I'm going to swing by there today and see if they will match Home
> > Depot's price, as it's about $30 cheaper.
> 
> I prefer Lowe's, too. Ask them, they may match Home Depot's price.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
G: Problem with the one that was installed when we had the house built in 1996 
is that the light is not regulated. (Later models may have a regulation 
feature?)
When clouds are passing over; especially small clouds; the room can annoyingly 
go bright-dark-bright-dark repeatedly.
Since the cost of LED lighting is fairly low, I'm thinking of blocking the 
Solatube and installing an LED fixture in it or over it.


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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:03:58 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> While I have been a fan of Solatube, I found that the Velux line that
> is readily available through the big box home improvement stores is
> just as good and nowhere near as pricey.

Thank you for the information.


> Home Depot is cheaper than Lowe's, but I prefer working with Lowe's.
> I'm going to swing by there today and see if they will match Home
> Depot's price, as it's about $30 cheaper.

I prefer Lowe's, too. Ask them, they may match Home Depot's price.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Would a nice new LED light fixture not solve the problem with a lot less 
fuss?


RB


On 20/01/2015 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I have wanted to do this for a long time, and in other homes as well, but never 
got around to it.

Our current home has very little in the way of outside light coming in to the main living area, primarily due to the 
back of the house being "U" shaped with a roof over the center of the "U".  At the bottom of the 
"U" are sliding glass doors opening into our family room and kitchen area. While this side of the house faces 
south, there are 60' oak trees at the back of our very shallow back yard that block the sun even more.  As a result of 
this the interior portion of the house is what I often refer to as being "tomb-like".

Adding tubular skylights to this area would go a long way to lightening it up, 
but before I can convince SWMBO of such a significant alteration to the living 
area I'm going to do it in the laundry room.  This is a room off the garage 
that we enter and exit through, and it has no outside exposure whatsoever. By 
putting a tubular skylight here I know the impression will be a favorable one, 
ideally gaining acceptance for the method and allowing me to move forward in 
doing the same for the living area.

While I have been a fan of Solatube, I found that the Velux line that is 
readily available through the big box home improvement stores is just as good 
and nowhere near as pricey.

Home Depot is cheaper than Lowe's, but I prefer working with Lowe's.  I'm going 
to swing by there today and see if they will match Home Depot's price, as it's 
about $30 cheaper.

Dan




On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed some light 
on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window.

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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Andrew,

Daily commute is about 40 miles, 5x per week.  Occasional pleasure trips to
Florida or Asheville NC now and then.  My work travel has dropped off to
almost nothing now, had a trip up to WDC last fall.  Previously I was
driving all over the south-east and up the eastern seaboard, but no more.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:40 PM,  wrote:

> Where do you' do all that driving?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have wanted to do this for a long time, and in other homes as well, but never 
got around to it.

Our current home has very little in the way of outside light coming in to the 
main living area, primarily due to the back of the house being "U" shaped with 
a roof over the center of the "U".  At the bottom of the "U" are sliding glass 
doors opening into our family room and kitchen area. While this side of the 
house faces south, there are 60' oak trees at the back of our very shallow back 
yard that block the sun even more.  As a result of this the interior portion of 
the house is what I often refer to as being "tomb-like".

Adding tubular skylights to this area would go a long way to lightening it up, 
but before I can convince SWMBO of such a significant alteration to the living 
area I'm going to do it in the laundry room.  This is a room off the garage 
that we enter and exit through, and it has no outside exposure whatsoever. By 
putting a tubular skylight here I know the impression will be a favorable one, 
ideally gaining acceptance for the method and allowing me to move forward in 
doing the same for the living area.

While I have been a fan of Solatube, I found that the Velux line that is 
readily available through the big box home improvement stores is just as good 
and nowhere near as pricey.

Home Depot is cheaper than Lowe's, but I prefer working with Lowe's.  I'm going 
to swing by there today and see if they will match Home Depot's price, as it's 
about $30 cheaper.

Dan



> On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed some 
> light on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window.
> 
> --
> Sent from myMail app for Android
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm still moving cars and parts on the weekends while working real job during 
the week. I still have about 15 cars to go.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend.  Sucked 
> out the old with an electric pump.  Filled with M1 5w-40, installed a new 
> Hengst oil filter.  Easy-peasy.  
> 
> Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry.  I expect this engine can 
> safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit.
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[astrasfogel--- via Mercedes]

Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed some light 
on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window.
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Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:47PM -0500 from Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
:
Did my civic duty today and had jury duty.
Slow week so we got dismissed early  I'm going to spend some time in the 
attic scoping out the location for a tubular skylight I want to put in our 
laundry room.  it's yucky outside or I would wash the R129.
Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did my civic duty today and had jury duty.

Slow week so we got dismissed early  I'm going to spend some time in the 
attic scoping out the location for a tubular skylight I want to put in our 
laundry room.  it's yucky outside or I would wash the R129.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[astrasfogel--- via Mercedes]

I would have attaboyed if he have used lung  power rather than the electric 
motor.
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Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:08PM -0500 from WILTON via Mercedes 
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ATTABOY.
W
- Original Message -
From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com >
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" < mercedes@okiebenz.com >
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list
> Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend.
> Sucked out the old with an electric pump.  Filled with M1 5w-40, installed
> a new Hengst oil filter.  Easy-peasy.
>
> Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry.  I expect this engine
> can safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit.
> --
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> Charleston, SC
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

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Where do you' do all that driving?
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Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:03PM -0500 from Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend.  Sucked 
out the old with an electric pump.  Filled with M1 5w-40, installed a new 
Hengst oil filter.  Easy-peasy.
Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry.  I expect this engine can 
safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit.
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Charleston, SC
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Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY.

W

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list


Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend. 
Sucked out the old with an electric pump.  Filled with M1 5w-40, installed 
a new Hengst oil filter.  Easy-peasy.


Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry.  I expect this engine 
can safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit.

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Charleston, SC
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[MBZ] Quiet day on the list

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend.  Sucked 
out the old with an electric pump.  Filled with M1 5w-40, installed a new 
Hengst oil filter.  Easy-peasy.  

Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry.  I expect this engine can 
safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit.
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Charleston, SC
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