Re: [MBZ] Router help
Well maybe not the FCC but how about the guys in Armed Forces communications. Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:26:20 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com I wonder if the FCC cares what she does in Iraq? Some of our 802.11? stuff is not legal in parts of Europe for example - not sure whose rules apply in Iraq. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Router help
-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas I thought D Snook was the only one on the list who had a cataract. --R And actually I traded my 'cat' already, even faster than Donald does. For an extra $1,000 [including maintenance for the first few weeks and a warranty of sorts] I upgraded to a newer model and now have a MMAO that should be good for many thousands of miles, even far beyond the life expectancy of the operator. I like it so much I plan to be buried in it - or perhaps its the other way around. [MMAV = Modified Monovision with Aspheric Optics, for night vision. Wish I could have upgraded to the newest model, the Crystalens, but not only was that one $2,200 extra per eye, but there is something about staying with a tried and true older model that appeals to someone with a 27 year old Benz.] BillR Bill R wrote: I had cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a hard time typing at the moment. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Router help
You could get a range extender and set it on top of the near blast wall, but unless you have PoE you also have to power it. Not to sound too daft, it would be easiest to run a x-ft length of cat5e from out of one of the connected trailers to somewhere near her trailer and plug in to a regular router or AP at her place. If the trailers are anything like the ones I've seen it won't be adding to the draft to have a cat5 cable running out the window. For that matter if she's on good terms with the other trailers maybe they would set one of their routers on the top of the blast wall, and everyone could play. If not, the archived description (last month probably?) of DD-WRT is my suggestion, install it as a client with the SSID of the good router and then connect the laptop (or another AP) to the back end. Send along a very long power extension cord and ethernet cable (local home improvement store should carry 100' of both) so she can set the DD-WRT on top of the blast wall, or even slung over the top onto the ground next door. I think unless she clears that wall, either line-of-sight (height) or because the device is past it, the reception may not be satisfactory; a foot of concrete makes a good signal a lot of noise. To answer the actual question, the best 11n-draft routers will be higher x-by-x numbers, you should be able to find 2x2 or 2x3s. Power is mostly limited by the FCC, the highest 11a channels can be higher power so a dual-band might help, though I can't say I've ever tested range vs. channel live so I'm not sure the greater power beats greater attenuation. The biggest differences are in laptop and AP sensitivity though, and there's not a great way to get those numbers reliably. If she has no practical signal now then I'm concerned that while an antenna or stronger AP might work, it doesn't sound like she would be wanting to rebuild it a bunch of times until it worked reliably, or able to go buy hardware when all else failed. If I'm misreading that then by all means go for the antennas, that's more fun anyhow and probably cheaper. :) Good luck, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 7:41 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comReply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Well the cantenna probably won't fly. I think that's why she was asking about a router because that would provide the best option as to connections and then if anyone else in her trailer wants to buy in to the connection that would make that easier as well as lower the cost for all. The 2 blast barriers are taller then the trailers and a foot thick so that tends to attenuate the signal quite a bit which is why her laptop isn't doing too good and she is hoping that a router in her trailer will have better reception both ways. Manfred Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:53:53 -0800 From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help For antenna upgrading, a Pringles Cantenna is superb. Might be an issue with getting it hooked to her internal antenna though. Using a router as an access point would also solve the issue. She would want to place it up high as close to the other routers to get strong signal clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Manfred, et al. Sorry, Manfred, can't help you there. I'm just smart enough to blow fuses. I use a refurbished Netgear Mimo G router from Tiger and it suits me. Some of the list genii will know a lot better than ole spark y. Fred Moir Lynn MA p.s. Try Kaleb's Linux list, some of them are half smart. At 11:01 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote: Thanks Fred, Do you know how they compare to other brands? From reading old email it seems that the best might be USR and from what I could figure out Linksys is the one not to get. I don't know enough about this stuff to know one from the other. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Router help - or perhaps being able to see the router
I Just got back from the ophthalmologist's office for my 24 hour follow up and it went pretty well. I thought a capitol D was an O, and the capitol C next to it also looked like an O, so I'm not up to 20/15, but my right eye is better than 20/20 one day out from surgery. I'm pretty happy with that. He said that he gave me a freebee and made a minor incision to relax the muscles and get rid of the stigmatism I had in that eye also. When they were doing the vision check this morning I also found out that the 'ghosting' and double letters I was seeing in my left eye were from refractions caused by the cataract there, so now and I somewhat anxious to have the other eye done also. All in all a nice Christmas present -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:52 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas I thought D Snook was the only one on the list who had a cataract. --R And actually I traded my 'cat' already, even faster than Donald does. For an extra $1,000 [including maintenance for the first few weeks and a warranty of sorts] I upgraded to a newer model and now have a MMAO that should be good for many thousands of miles, even far beyond the life expectancy of the operator. I like it so much I plan to be buried in it - or perhaps its the other way around. [MMAV = Modified Monovision with Aspheric Optics, for night vision. Wish I could have upgraded to the newest model, the Crystalens, but not only was that one $2,200 extra per eye, but there is something about staying with a tried and true older model that appeals to someone with a 27 year old Benz.] BillR Bill R wrote: I had cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a hard time typing at the moment. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Router help
What she wants to do is possible, but likely illegal (the FCC regulates the gain of directional antennas), so she'll have to build the antenna herself. You can go really long distances (10+ miles) with regular wireless cards/transmitters with the proper directional antenna setups on each end, and a line of sight path. You'll need to make a cantenna on each end, and point them exactly at one another. One end should be connected to a router, and the other end to a wireless card on the laptop- you'll need to get both a router and wireless card that are designed to take an external antenna. By googling, you can find plans to build a cantenna, and if she's really ambitious she can use the cantenna as a feedhorn on a small parabolic digital satellite dish to get a REALLY high gain antenna. For a wireless card, I highly recommend the Rosewil RNX-G1W. It has windows/mac/linux drivers, costs about $15 on newegg, and takes an external antenna. It also has a very strong receiver/transmitter. Sincerely, Tyler On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:08 AM, M G wrote: My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the people got together and bought a used satellite dish from some of the guys who were coming home. They live in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls between them. They have two access points on two of the trailers but since she is the only one in the third trailer in on the deal there is no router there and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I don't understand how a wireless router will get the signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on the router. That would mean I guess that she would connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use that or can she just connect to it wireless without a computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway I know there was talk about that on the list a while back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on to her. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Router help - or perhaps being able to see the router
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:16:26 -0500 Bill R billr32...@comcast.net wrote: When they were doing the vision check this morning I also found out that the 'ghosting' and double letters I was seeing in my left eye were from refractions caused by the cataract there, so now and I somewhat anxious to have the other eye done also. Thanks, for the good report. All in all a nice Christmas present Indeed! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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MG wrote: Yeah that's what I would do but she isn't that into making something like that. Just about any outdoor antenna that she can stick on a pole and point down at the next trailer should do it, if she has an antenna jack on the wifi card and the proper extension cable. Maybe something like this? http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Outdoor-High-Directional-Antenna/dp/B000GHK6MY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch - The router I am having trouble connecting to is a Linksys G that is at the exact opposite end of the house, in a corner computer closet of mom's apartment, with the router also in a corner of that closet. The direction looks about right for a corner reflector to help the signal coming my way. Is something like that likely to work, and if so how do I figure out the size? Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help Bill R wrote: Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that were supposed to be good. I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell modem, it's just a basic corner reflector, which I believe adds about 3db. The distance from the dipole antenna to the corner of the aluminum foil reflector is based on the wavelength, I think it's around 2 for wifi. All you need is part of a cardboard box and some aluminum foil, and a knowledge of the direction the signal is in. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm at he same place as you. I can take something apart and if there is something burned I can replace that. If that works then great if notOh well, some more time wasted. I've let the smoke out of more wire and components that most of the people I know. The things never seem to work very good after that. Manfred Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:40:31 -0500 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Manfred, et al. Sorry, Manfred, can't help you there. I'm just smart enough to blow fuses. I use a refurbished Netgear Mimo G router from Tiger and it suits me. Some of the list genii will know a lot better than ole spark y. Fred Moir Lynn MA p.s. Try Kaleb's Linux list, some of them are half smart. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I hate it when the power blips right after I've written a whole bunch of stuff. Now I have to do the whole thing again. I got to talk with Missy when she called for Christmas just a bit ago. (we open presents on the 24th so everyone was here and got to talk to her) BTW a Merry Christmas to everyone just so I don't forget to say that later as I have been known to. Anyway Missy says that they are planning to run a cable from the dish router in the bomb shelter to her trailer like they did for the other two trailers. That's about 200' or so, and then put a router or some other inexpensive access point box to translate to the wireless in her trailer so she doesn't have to have a wire all the way to the laptop. The nearest trailer is about 250' and has the wireless router but after two blast walls over 10' tall and the 250' the signal just doesn't make it. Setting the routers outside is not an option due to the dust and rain. Even putting them into a box doesn't help. That's why the dish is at the bomb shelter cause the router can be inside there. The other stuff is all linksys but I think she is thinking of going with netgear for her link. There isn't any problem with running the cable over the blast walls as most of the vehicles running down the roads between them are lower then the tops and when a taller vehicle is going to come they let them know at least a day before so the cables can be temporarily disconnected. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often as they just barely fit down those paths. She says it's a lot of fun driving a pickup around there as most of the vehicles are so big they will run a pickup over and not even notice the bump. You are right about the air leak as the window in her room doesn't even close all the way so she has duct tape over the one inch gap at the bottom as it is so that will be a good place to run the cable in. It seems that the dish connection to the Internet costs $390 a month over there so having 15 people to share the cost at least brings it down to a manageable cost without slowing things down too much. I guess there are a few of these groups over there doing the same thing. I tell you what the kids these days don't know how good they have it. Trailers with AC yet even! Manfred Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:00:49 -0800 (PST) From: Tim C. bb...@crone.us You could get a range extender and set it on top of the near blast wall, but unless you have PoE you also have to power it. Not to sound too daft, it would be easiest to run a x-ft length of cat5e from out of one of the connected trailers to somewhere near her trailer and plug in to a regular router or AP at her place. If the trailers are anything like the ones I've seen it won't be adding to the draft to have a cat5 cable running out the window. For that matter if she's on good terms with the other trailers maybe they would set one of their routers on the top of the blast wall, and everyone could play. If not, the archived description (last month probably?) of DD-WRT is my suggestion, install it as a client with the SSID of the good router and then connect the laptop (or another AP) to the back end. Send along a very long power extension cord and ethernet cable (local home improvement store should carry 100' of both) so she can set the DD-WRT on top of the blast wall, or even slung over the top onto the ground next door. I think unless she clears that wall, either line-of-sight (height) or because the device is past it, the reception may not be satisfactory; a foot of concrete makes a good signal a lot of noise. To answer the actual question, the best 11n-draft routers will be higher x-by-x numbers, you should be able to find 2x2 or 2x3s. Power is mostly limited by the FCC, the highest 11a channels can be higher power so a dual-band might help, though I can't say I've ever tested range vs. channel live so I'm not sure the greater power beats greater attenuation. The biggest differences are in laptop and AP sensitivity though, and there's not a great way to get those numbers reliably. If she has no practical signal now then I'm concerned that while an antenna or stronger AP might work, it doesn't sound like she would be wanting to rebuild it a bunch of times until it worked reliably, or able to go buy hardware when all else failed. If I'm misreading that then by all means go for the antennas, that's more fun anyhow and probably cheaper. :) Good luck, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Tyler, I'll keep a file of this for when I want to play with that. I am pretty sure that this wouldn't fly over there in Baghdad even if she were inclined to try it. She isn't the experimental type. Manfred Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:47:53 -0800 From: Tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 51981e5e-d3a2-471f-a4a6-ab80b8e3d...@usermail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes What she wants to do is possible, but likely illegal (the FCC regulates the gain of directional antennas), so she'll have to build the antenna herself. You can go really long distances (10+ miles) with regular wireless cards/transmitters with the proper directional antenna setups on each end, and a line of sight path. You'll need to make a cantenna on each end, and point them exactly at one another. One end should be connected to a router, and the other end to a wireless card on the laptop- you'll need to get both a router and wireless card that are designed to take an external antenna. By googling, you can find plans to build a cantenna, and if she's really ambitious she can use the cantenna as a feedhorn on a small parabolic digital satellite dish to get a REALLY high gain antenna. For a wireless card, I highly recommend the Rosewil RNX-G1W. It has windows/mac/linux drivers, costs about $15 on newegg, and takes an external antenna. It also has a very strong receiver/transmitter. Sincerely, Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'll send that on to her Mitch I don't recall whether her laptop has a card or if the thing is internal. I figure she would be out of luck if it is internal. Manfred Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:03:03 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net MG wrote: Yeah that's what I would do but she isn't that into making something like that. Just about any outdoor antenna that she can stick on a pole and point down at the next trailer should do it, if she has an antenna jack on the wifi card and the proper extension cable. Maybe something like this? http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Outdoor-High-Directional-Antenna/dp/B000GHK6MY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wonder if the FCC cares what she does in Iraq? Some of our 802.11? stuff is not legal in parts of Europe for example - not sure whose rules apply in Iraq. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote: What she wants to do is possible, but likely illegal (the FCC regulates the gain of directional antennas), so she'll have to build the antenna herself. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Router help
My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the people got together and bought a used satellite dish from some of the guys who were coming home. They live in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls between them. They have two access points on two of the trailers but since she is the only one in the third trailer in on the deal there is no router there and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I don't understand how a wireless router will get the signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on the router. That would mean I guess that she would connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use that or can she just connect to it wireless without a computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway I know there was talk about that on the list a while back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on to her. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that were supposed to be good. I plan to try one or more of them soon. I had cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a hard time typing at the moment. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of M G Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 2:08 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Router help My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the people got together and bought a used satellite dish from some of the guys who were coming home. They live in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls between them. They have two access points on two of the trailers but since she is the only one in the third trailer in on the deal there is no router there and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I don't understand how a wireless router will get the signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on the router. That would mean I guess that she would connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use that or can she just connect to it wireless without a computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway I know there was talk about that on the list a while back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on to her. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I thought D Snook was the only one on the list who had a cataract. --R Bill R wrote: I had cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a hard time typing at the moment. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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For antenna upgrading, a Pringles Cantenna is superb. Might be an issue with getting it hooked to her internal antenna though. Using a router as an access point would also solve the issue. She would want to place it up high as close to the other routers to get strong signal clay On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:08 AM, M G wrote: My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the people got together and bought a used satellite dish from some of the guys who were coming home. They live in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls between them. They have two access points on two of the trailers but since she is the only one in the third trailer in on the deal there is no router there and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I don't understand how a wireless router will get the signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on the router. That would mean I guess that she would connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use that or can she just connect to it wireless without a computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway I know there was talk about that on the list a while back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on to her. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah that's what I would do but she isn't that into making something like that. I would also expect that that would be kind of overkill for the short distance involved. They might get into trouble by covering other communications if it got too powerful. So she was just looking for a real good off-the-shelf piece that would let her connect and then bring home to use at home when the time comes. Manfred Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:13:56 -0500 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that were supposed to be good. I plan to try one or more of them soon. I had cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a hard time typing at the moment. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Manfred. Tiger direct is having a sale on a D-Link N wireless router for $40 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3334084sku=D700-2328 YMMV Fred Moir At 07:18 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote: Yeah that's what I would do but she isn't that into making something like that. I would also expect that that would be kind of overkill for the short distance involved. They might get into trouble by covering other communications if it got too powerful. So she was just looking for a real good off-the-shelf piece that would let her connect and then bring home to use at home when the time comes. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well the cantenna probably won't fly. I think that's why she was asking about a router because that would provide the best option as to connections and then if anyone else in her trailer wants to buy in to the connection that would make that easier as well as lower the cost for all. The 2 blast barriers are taller then the trailers and a foot thick so that tends to attenuate the signal quite a bit which is why her laptop isn't doing too good and she is hoping that a router in her trailer will have better reception both ways. Manfred Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:53:53 -0800 From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help For antenna upgrading, a Pringles Cantenna is superb. Might be an issue with getting it hooked to her internal antenna though. Using a router as an access point would also solve the issue. She would want to place it up high as close to the other routers to get strong signal clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill R wrote: Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that were supposed to be good. I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell modem, it's just a basic corner reflector, which I believe adds about 3db. The distance from the dipole antenna to the corner of the aluminum foil reflector is based on the wavelength, I think it's around 2 for wifi. All you need is part of a cardboard box and some aluminum foil, and a knowledge of the direction the signal is in. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would ago with Mitch's suggestion. A cantenna is really directional, and might be a PITA to set up. A corner reflector is easy to build out of scrap stuff and has pretty good gain as long as you're careful about dimensions. Dan --- On Tue, 12/23/08, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 8:48 PM Bill R wrote: Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that were supposed to be good. I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell modem, it's just a basic corner reflector, which I believe adds about 3db. The distance from the dipole antenna to the corner of the aluminum foil reflector is based on the wavelength, I think it's around 2 for wifi. All you need is part of a cardboard box and some aluminum foil, and a knowledge of the direction the signal is in. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:48:42 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell modem, it's just a basic corner reflector, which I believe adds about 3db. Depends upon the size of the reflector. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Fred, Do you know how they compare to other brands? From reading old email it seems that the best might be USR and from what I could figure out Linksys is the one not to get. I don't know enough about this stuff to know one from the other. Manfred Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:24:41 -0500 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help Manfred. Tiger direct is having a sale on a D-Link N wireless router for $40 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3334084sku=D700-2328 YMMV Fred Moir ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
