[MBZ] Update

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am not sure if this will come thru or not, but I have had a server space 
issue which appears to have prevented emails from flowing. Periodically I have 
to remove the list archives and scrubbed attachments or they clog up the system 
after a while. This is still ongoing as the web host support has been slow to 
resolve this. 

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

On my 98 Jetta the starter is the front motor mount, or they share a bolt 
anyway.
The engine ground also shares that bolt. I didn't realize it the time I took it 
out ...
Curt

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  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 10:18 AM, Peter Frederick via 
Mercedes wrote:   Sounds like a 190 starter.  Had one 
here temporaritly with start problems (turned out to be a chewed up ring gear, 
starter was fine).  Took out the bolts and it dropped right out, luckliy NOT on 
my head since I was under the car up on jack stands.

Had to pull the engine mount on that side to put it back in, never did figure 
out the magic dance to get it up, in, and around the engine mount.  If a person 
did them fairly often it would be a 30 min job, took me hours.

Peter

> On Dec 25, 2022, at 11:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Strong work 💪
> Congratulations!
> 
> 
> Rick
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> Subject: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter
> 
> I am happy to report I finished up the starter and motor mount replacement 
> and the car actually turns over like it should. Now that I have had one run 
> thru of a GL 642 starter, I bet I could do the next one in a couple of hours. 
> That starter had to be turned and angled just perfect and it just barely 
> slides out. Fortunately it’s pretty light. If it was a big heavy starter it 
> might be hard to fight it in.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Sounds like a 190 starter.  Had one here temporaritly with start problems 
(turned out to be a chewed up ring gear, starter was fine).  Took out the bolts 
and it dropped right out, luckliy NOT on my head since I was under the car up 
on jack stands.

Had to pull the engine mount on that side to put it back in, never did figure 
out the magic dance to get it up, in, and around the engine mount.  If a person 
did them fairly often it would be a 30 min job, took me hours.

Peter

> On Dec 25, 2022, at 11:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Strong work 💪
> Congratulations!
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
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> Sent: December 25, 2022 1:55 PM
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> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter
> 
> I am happy to report I finished up the starter and motor mount replacement 
> and the car actually turns over like it should. Now that I have had one run 
> thru of a GL 642 starter, I bet I could do the next one in a couple of hours. 
> That starter had to be turned and angled just perfect and it just barely 
> slides out. Fortunately it’s pretty light. If it was a big heavy starter it 
> might be hard to fight it in.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Strong work 💪
Congratulations!


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter

I am happy to report I finished up the starter and motor mount replacement and 
the car actually turns over like it should. Now that I have had one run thru of 
a GL 642 starter, I bet I could do the next one in a couple of hours. That 
starter had to be turned and angled just perfect and it just barely slides out. 
Fortunately it’s pretty light. If it was a big heavy starter it might be hard 
to fight it in.

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Good work!  It’s always the case the first go is learning how to do it 

--FT
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> On Dec 25, 2022, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am happy to report I finished up the starter and motor mount replacement 
> and the car actually turns over like it should. Now that I have had one run 
> thru of a GL 642 starter, I bet I could do the next one in a couple of hours. 
> That starter had to be turned and angled just perfect and it just barely 
> slides out. Fortunately it’s pretty light. If it was a big heavy starter it 
> might be hard to fight it in. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the GL starter

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Attaboy! Merry Christmas!

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> On Dec 25, 2022, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am happy to report I finished up the starter and motor mount replacement 
> and the car actually turns over like it should. Now that I have had one run 
> thru of a GL 642 starter, I bet I could do the next one in a couple of hours. 
> That starter had to be turned and angled just perfect and it just barely 
> slides out. Fortunately it’s pretty light. If it was a big heavy starter it 
> might be hard to fight it in. 
> 
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[MBZ] Update on the GL starter

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am happy to report I finished up the starter and motor mount replacement and 
the car actually turns over like it should. Now that I have had one run thru of 
a GL 642 starter, I bet I could do the next one in a couple of hours. That 
starter had to be turned and angled just perfect and it just barely slides out. 
Fortunately it’s pretty light. If it was a big heavy starter it might be hard 
to fight it in. 

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 116

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Tank is installed back in the car. I probably should have ordered new hoses for 
the line out of the tank and from the pump to the supply line they do not 
appear to have been leaking, but they are also stiff as a board. I will see 
what they cost and how soon I can get them. The return lines and vent lines are 
dry rotted and need to be replaced but it’s just regular hose by the foot. 

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> On Nov 20, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ATTABOY!
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 2:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Awesome!!!
>> Strong work 💪💪💪
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: November 20, 2022 1:40 PM
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>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>> Subject: [MBZ] Update on the 116
>> 
>> After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of
>> copper wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line.
>> I was about to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to
>> still be available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more,
>> then decided to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged
>> solid when suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting
>> shop wall like bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner
>> thru it. I filled the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will
>> just let it sit overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I
>> might go ahead and lower the car back down and install the tank, then
>> finish hooking it up later while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the
>> thing starting and running on its own so I can pull it out and get the GL
>> in for a starter replacement.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 116

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 2:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Awesome!!!
> Strong work 💪💪💪
>
>
> Rick
>
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> Sent: November 20, 2022 1:40 PM
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> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: [MBZ] Update on the 116
>
> After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of
> copper wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line.
> I was about to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to
> still be available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more,
> then decided to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged
> solid when suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting
> shop wall like bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner
> thru it. I filled the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will
> just let it sit overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I
> might go ahead and lower the car back down and install the tank, then
> finish hooking it up later while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the
> thing starting and running on its own so I can pull it out and get the GL
> in for a starter replacement.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 116

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Awesome!!!
Strong work 💪💪💪


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Update on the 116

After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of copper 
wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line. I was about 
to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to still be 
available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more, then decided 
to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged solid when 
suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting shop wall like 
bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner thru it. I filled 
the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will just let it sit 
overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I might go ahead and 
lower the car back down and install the tank, then finish hooking it up later 
while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the thing starting and running on 
its own so I can pull it out and get the GL in for a starter replacement.

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[MBZ] Update on the 116

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of copper 
wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line. I was about 
to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to still be 
available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more, then decided 
to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged solid when 
suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting shop wall like 
bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner thru it. I filled 
the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will just let it sit 
overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I might go ahead and 
lower the car back down and install the tank, then finish hooking it up later 
while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the thing starting and running on 
its own so I can pull it out and get the GL in for a starter replacement. 

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[MBZ] Update on 116 keys

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So yes it’s the 201 key and yes they are available. Had to come back to town 
and ordering it now. They are charging $50 each. List on them was either 30 
something or 40 something. This is why I never buy parts here unless I have to. 

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>  it is a very small company and there is really nowhere to go once you are 
> there. 

Yes there is, as is always true: elsewhere.  Surely you're familiar with it?

I've always enjoyed working for the smaller companies most.  It depends on
the kinds of BS you prefer.

Owner placing ignoramus in charge of other people shows that he has no
sense whatsoever.  Successful family-run businesses start the kids at the
_bottom_ of things, so they learn the ropes.  One that does otherwise is
probably doomed.  Failure to keep promises is equally fatal.  What you have
there is an example of a bad small business.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Exactly.

-D

> On Oct 28, 2021, at 7:47 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-10-28 07:30, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s the big problem with small/family owned companies. Short of
>> marrying into the family, the ability to progress or move up is
>> severely limited or not even possible.
> 
> My cousin did bookkeeping for a local lumberyard when we were in high school. 
> The owner told her to get an associate's degree and he'd put her in charge of 
> accounting. She did, and the owner gave the job to his daughter who had no 
> training or prior employment in the company. She's your new boss, now be a 
> good girl and train your boss for me.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

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On 2021-10-28 07:30, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

That’s the big problem with small/family owned companies. Short of
marrying into the family, the ability to progress or move up is
severely limited or not even possible.



My cousin did bookkeeping for a local lumberyard when we were in high 
school. The owner told her to get an associate's degree and he'd put her 
in charge of accounting. She did, and the owner gave the job to his 
daughter who had no training or prior employment in the company. She's 
your new boss, now be a good girl and train your boss for me.


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That’s the big problem with small/family owned companies. Short of marrying 
into the family, the ability to progress or move up is severely limited or not 
even possible.

-D

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> On Oct 27, 2021, at 11:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> #2 would be more due to their insurance is cheaper, but it is a very small 
> company and there is really nowhere to go once you are there. 
> 
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>> On Oct 27, 2021, at 10:32 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't recall if offer #2 salary was better than offer #1?  Even though he 
>> plans to decline it, if the salary is more he could maybe use it as leverage 
>> to get #1 to to bump up the starting salary.
>> 
>> No time better than on the way in to get as big a raise as you can. It's 
>> COLA after that in many places.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, at 5:35 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2021-10-27 17:11, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> That's def a sign to get out, they don't want to retain people.  So
> you had 2 other offers and one has been ruled out so you have another
> job offer to take?
>>> 
>>> I think he accepted the first offer before he got the 2nd offer. So with 
>>> the 2nd offer gone, and current employer declining to join in the 
>>> bidding, all is well but he's down to one option, which is probably the 
>>> choice he wanted in the first place.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

#2 would be more due to their insurance is cheaper, but it is a very small 
company and there is really nowhere to go once you are there. 

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> On Oct 27, 2021, at 10:32 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't recall if offer #2 salary was better than offer #1?  Even though he 
> plans to decline it, if the salary is more he could maybe use it as leverage 
> to get #1 to to bump up the starting salary.
> 
> No time better than on the way in to get as big a raise as you can. It's COLA 
> after that in many places.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, at 5:35 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-27 17:11, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That's def a sign to get out, they don't want to retain people.  So
>>> you had 2 other offers and one has been ruled out so you have another
>>> job offer to take?
>> 
>> I think he accepted the first offer before he got the 2nd offer. So with 
>> the 2nd offer gone, and current employer declining to join in the 
>> bidding, all is well but he's down to one option, which is probably the 
>> choice he wanted in the first place.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I don't recall if offer #2 salary was better than offer #1?  Even though he 
plans to decline it, if the salary is more he could maybe use it as leverage to 
get #1 to to bump up the starting salary.

No time better than on the way in to get as big a raise as you can. It's COLA 
after that in many places.

Allan

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, at 5:35 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2021-10-27 17:11, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > That's def a sign to get out, they don't want to retain people.  So
> > you had 2 other offers and one has been ruled out so you have another
> > job offer to take?
> 
> I think he accepted the first offer before he got the 2nd offer. So with 
> the 2nd offer gone, and current employer declining to join in the 
> bidding, all is well but he's down to one option, which is probably the 
> choice he wanted in the first place.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Regina needs to talk to Voodoochile here:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/We-got-7-new-guys-hired-in-my-area/5-2499512/?page=2#i95517744

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Correct 

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> On Oct 27, 2021, at 4:36 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-10-27 17:11, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> That's def a sign to get out, they don't want to retain people.  So
>> you had 2 other offers and one has been ruled out so you have another
>> job offer to take?
> 
> I think he accepted the first offer before he got the 2nd offer. So with the 
> 2nd offer gone, and current employer declining to join in the bidding, all is 
> well but he's down to one option, which is probably the choice he wanted in 
> the first place.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

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If #0 is F-ing over their employees and/or customers in a bid to make the 
external financials
look good, however temporarily, for takeover or public offering purposes, you 
don't want them.
That is NOT what a class act does, and the damage done will take years to undo.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

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On 2021-10-27 17:11, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

That's def a sign to get out, they don't want to retain people.  So
you had 2 other offers and one has been ruled out so you have another
job offer to take?


I think he accepted the first offer before he got the 2nd offer. So with 
the 2nd offer gone, and current employer declining to join in the 
bidding, all is well but he's down to one option, which is probably the 
choice he wanted in the first place.


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the job

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's def a sign to get out, they don't want to retain people.  So you 
had 2 other offers and one has been ruled out so you have another job 
offer to take?


--FT

On 10/27/21 4:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I ruled out the 2nd job offer for several reasons, it is just too small of a 
family owned deal. Heard back from current job that the new corporate overlords 
put an end to offering more money to stay, so guess I will be leaving. Problem 
solved.

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[MBZ] Update on the job

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I ruled out the 2nd job offer for several reasons, it is just too small of a 
family owned deal. Heard back from current job that the new corporate overlords 
put an end to offering more money to stay, so guess I will be leaving. Problem 
solved. 

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[MBZ] Update front left air shocks is leaking. 2004 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Please bring your mechanic to check the out. Vehicle will be warrantied 
for 14 days engine and transmission only at full price.


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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

They need a copy of the factory service manual, and they need to properly
adjust (and perhaps repair) all the throttle linkages first.  If they can't
do that, you'll need to take the car to a garage that can do that.  The
service manual is free online (but painful to use to get to the proper
pages).

https://www.startekinfo.com/docs?cat=MB%20Workshop%20Resources

I do hope, for your sake, that they have not tried to adjust the pump
timing!

Very very rarely is the problem in the injection pump.  Usually a rough
idle is due to a bad injector or two, unbalanced injectors, valves out of
adjustment, or a leak in a fuel line allowing air into the system.  Rough
idle at start-up (while engine is below operating temperature) can also be
caused by a bad glow plug or two.

The only parts of the injection pump that may contribute to a rough idle
are the delivery valves.  The copper sealing rings (and perhaps the
springs) need to be replaced every hundred thousand miles or so.  I would
not trust anyone other than a certified Bosch shop or a long-time Mercedes
Diesel mechanic to attempt this job, because if you screw it up, the pump
needs to be removed from the car for adjustment, rebuild, or replacement.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 5:33 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
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> Hello Dieselers. The guys in the shop who replaced the engine in the 240D
> are having trouble with the idle adjustments. Does anyone have the info or
> a link for how to properly adjust the idle? I’ve never adjusted the idle on
> the IP on any of the cars I’ve owned.
> TIA,
> Kevin in a hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1659 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard who has an irregular resting heartbeat
>
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No rack damper screw on a non-turbo OM61x.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 8:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
> > the linkage to match?
>
> Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed
> with unless you're a diesel injection shop.
>
> Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from
> bouncing at idle. A blind man can adjust that.
>
> I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.
>
> Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific
> procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated
> nylon donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that
> applies to a 1980s 240D.
> I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's
> not much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, it’s 20mm to get a 10mm clearance. There’s a hole in the middle that 
a pin on the vacuum valve goes in.

-D

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> 10mm disc that’s used to set the clearance on the throttle lever and the 
> vacuum valve. Not sure there’s a similar setup on the 240D, I don’t know.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
>>> the linkage to match?
>> 
>> Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed with 
>> unless you're a diesel injection shop.
>> 
>> Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from bouncing 
>> at idle. A blind man can adjust that.
>> 
>> I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.
>> 
>> Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific 
>> procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated nylon 
>> donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that applies to a 
>> 1980s 240D.
>> I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's not 
>> much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

10mm disc that’s used to set the clearance on the throttle lever and the vacuum 
valve. Not sure there’s a similar setup on the 240D, I don’t know.

-D

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
>> the linkage to match?
> 
> Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed with 
> unless you're a diesel injection shop.
> 
> Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from bouncing 
> at idle. A blind man can adjust that.
> 
> I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.
> 
> Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific 
> procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated nylon 
> donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that applies to a 
> 1980s 240D.
> I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's not 
> much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
the linkage to match?


Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed 
with unless you're a diesel injection shop.


Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from 
bouncing at idle. A blind man can adjust that.


I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.

Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific 
procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated 
nylon donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that 
applies to a 1980s 240D.
I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's 
not much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.


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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust the 
linkage to match? 

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> On Nov 19, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Are they trying to adjust the throttle linkage or the throttle stop on the 
> IP?
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Are they trying to adjust the throttle linkage or the throttle stop on 
the IP?


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[MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Hello Dieselers. The guys in the shop who replaced the engine in the 240D are 
having trouble with the idle adjustments. Does anyone have the info or a link 
for how to properly adjust the idle? I’ve never adjusted the idle on the IP on 
any of the cars I’ve owned.
TIA,
Kevin in a hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1659 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard who has an irregular resting heartbeat

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[MBZ] UPDATE: Mercedes-Benz S550 Mustang Is the Luxury Sedan Pony

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/mercedes-benz-s550-mustang-is-the-luxury-sedan-pony-148015.html

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 
>If that area doesn’t attract non loser tenants then sell the house.


 +1


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> relist it again and start from scratch

Relist it on the MLS. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[G Mann via Mercedes]

One word Contract  It puts the deal on a professional level right
from the start.. You write the contract with performance clause that
clearly states what is to be done, the delivery time for finished
work,inspection, and most importantly, Value... with clear language to the
quality of work and what is acceptable to you before you sign off on the
job in exchange for a dollar value, to be accepted by worker as payment in
kind in so many days of rent, clearly stated on a per day value..

Then, when you go to court, should you go to court... you have a document,
signed by all parties, to bring to the judge... and you have a leg to stand
on for claim.

He said.. She said... verbal claims hold no legal value in court... put it
in written form.. signed and dated..

It's life as a landlord.. or you get to lose..

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 5:29 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes that is true and I have also come to believe it is generally not a
> good idea to work out deals with renters to do work. Maybe I am mistaken in
> that. When we first started renting it the people who were going to move in
> were professional painter. We worked out a deal were we paid for the paint
> and they did the work. They got it done and did a great job professionally
> painting the entire house.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > OSB can take a certain amount of short-term moisture. After all, it's
> > common for houses that are under construction to get rained on before
> > the roof is on. If you can get it properly dried out and it's still
> > solid it's probably OK.
> >
> > I understand the temptation to have the contractor fix the place up in
> > lieu of rent but accounting-wise it may be cleaner if there's a clear
> > paper trail of him paying the rent and you paying him for his
> > services. Same difference in the end but when you deduct all your
> > business losses on this rental from your taxes next year, the
> > documentation may be helpful.
> >
> >
> > Allan
> >
> >
> > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> It’s so tempting. I’m honestly not sure what we are going to do at this
> point. We had a guy come over who is a contractor that was originally
> scheduled to view the house to lease when we were showing it but had to
> cancel due to a family deal. We got him over together to work up quotes for
> the utility room in order to sue the past renters. We also sent him over to
> my dads house to do some work. When we discovered the bathroom issue he
> came back over to look at that as well. He was interested in possibly
> working out a deal with him doing the work and us taking a portion off rent
> for a certain amount of time till whatever number he comes up with is paid.
> Waiting on a number. The other alternative is to simply do the work
> ourselves as originally planned, carry the mortgage for a couple of months
> then relist it again and start from scratch. Could probably actually charge
> more as I think we had it priced too cheap in the first place.
> >>
> >> I went and bought a fan and crawled back under the house and set it up
> to dry it out from underneath. As I said the floor joists still seemed
> solid and even the OSB subfloor didn’t appear to be weak like it was about
> to fall thru. If we simply dry it out and do not take up the tile in that
> bathroom and replace, I am wondering if once it dries out it doesn’t start
> crumbling down the line.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Okie lighting?
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0
> 
>  I'm just sayin'.
> 
>  -MMM-
> 
> > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next
> weekend
> > were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at
> the
> > earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy
> discussion and
> > full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We
> gave
> > them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us
> and
> > decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in
> there. I
> > can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old
> renters cost
> > us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start
> from
> > scratch.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Only way to find out is to ask ...
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at

Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes that is true and I have also come to believe it is generally not a good 
idea to work out deals with renters to do work. Maybe I am mistaken in that. 
When we first started renting it the people who were going to move in were 
professional painter. We worked out a deal were we paid for the paint and they 
did the work. They got it done and did a great job professionally painting the 
entire house. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OSB can take a certain amount of short-term moisture. After all, it's
> common for houses that are under construction to get rained on before
> the roof is on. If you can get it properly dried out and it's still
> solid it's probably OK.
> 
> I understand the temptation to have the contractor fix the place up in
> lieu of rent but accounting-wise it may be cleaner if there's a clear
> paper trail of him paying the rent and you paying him for his
> services. Same difference in the end but when you deduct all your
> business losses on this rental from your taxes next year, the
> documentation may be helpful.
> 
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> It’s so tempting. I’m honestly not sure what we are going to do at this 
>> point. We had a guy come over who is a contractor that was originally 
>> scheduled to view the house to lease when we were showing it but had to 
>> cancel due to a family deal. We got him over together to work up quotes for 
>> the utility room in order to sue the past renters. We also sent him over to 
>> my dads house to do some work. When we discovered the bathroom issue he came 
>> back over to look at that as well. He was interested in possibly working out 
>> a deal with him doing the work and us taking a portion off rent for a 
>> certain amount of time till whatever number he comes up with is paid. 
>> Waiting on a number. The other alternative is to simply do the work 
>> ourselves as originally planned, carry the mortgage for a couple of months 
>> then relist it again and start from scratch. Could probably actually charge 
>> more as I think we had it priced too cheap in the first place. 
>> 
>> I went and bought a fan and crawled back under the house and set it up to 
>> dry it out from underneath. As I said the floor joists still seemed solid 
>> and even the OSB subfloor didn’t appear to be weak like it was about to fall 
>> thru. If we simply dry it out and do not take up the tile in that bathroom 
>> and replace, I am wondering if once it dries out it doesn’t start crumbling 
>> down the line. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okie lighting?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0
 
 I'm just sayin'.
 
 -MMM-
 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend
> were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the
> earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and
> full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave
> them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and
> decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. 
> I
> can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old renters 
> cost
> us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start from
> scratch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Only way to find out is to ask ...
>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
>>> would cover it due to negligence.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
 
 Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
>>> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better.
> Hosed
>>> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have
> the o
>>> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I
> pulled
>>> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there
> was a
>>> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side
> and it
>>> also has mold.
 Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
>>> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we
> got
>>> to the house I noticed the 

Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Contractor to do work in exchange for rent. Sounds like another dead beat loser 
situation. Don’t fall into that trap. Screen your renters well. Do credit 
check, proof of employment etc. If that area doesn’t attract non loser tenants 
then sell the house.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OSB can take a certain amount of short-term moisture. After all, it's
> common for houses that are under construction to get rained on before
> the roof is on. If you can get it properly dried out and it's still
> solid it's probably OK.
> 
> I understand the temptation to have the contractor fix the place up in
> lieu of rent but accounting-wise it may be cleaner if there's a clear
> paper trail of him paying the rent and you paying him for his
> services. Same difference in the end but when you deduct all your
> business losses on this rental from your taxes next year, the
> documentation may be helpful.
> 
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> It’s so tempting. I’m honestly not sure what we are going to do at this 
>> point. We had a guy come over who is a contractor that was originally 
>> scheduled to view the house to lease when we were showing it but had to 
>> cancel due to a family deal. We got him over together to work up quotes for 
>> the utility room in order to sue the past renters. We also sent him over to 
>> my dads house to do some work. When we discovered the bathroom issue he came 
>> back over to look at that as well. He was interested in possibly working out 
>> a deal with him doing the work and us taking a portion off rent for a 
>> certain amount of time till whatever number he comes up with is paid. 
>> Waiting on a number. The other alternative is to simply do the work 
>> ourselves as originally planned, carry the mortgage for a couple of months 
>> then relist it again and start from scratch. Could probably actually charge 
>> more as I think we had it priced too cheap in the first place. 
>> 
>> I went and bought a fan and crawled back under the house and set it up to 
>> dry it out from underneath. As I said the floor joists still seemed solid 
>> and even the OSB subfloor didn’t appear to be weak like it was about to fall 
>> thru. If we simply dry it out and do not take up the tile in that bathroom 
>> and replace, I am wondering if once it dries out it doesn’t start crumbling 
>> down the line. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okie lighting?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0
 
 I'm just sayin'.
 
 -MMM-
 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend
> were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the
> earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and
> full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave
> them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and
> decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. 
> I
> can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old renters 
> cost
> us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start from
> scratch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Only way to find out is to ask ...
>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
>>> would cover it due to negligence.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
 
 Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
>>> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better.
> Hosed
>>> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have
> the o
>>> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I
> pulled
>>> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there
> was a
>>> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side
> and it
>>> also has mold.
 Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
>>> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we
> got
>>> to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
>>> needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not
> see
>>> any leaks

Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

OSB can take a certain amount of short-term moisture. After all, it's
common for houses that are under construction to get rained on before
the roof is on. If you can get it properly dried out and it's still
solid it's probably OK.

I understand the temptation to have the contractor fix the place up in
lieu of rent but accounting-wise it may be cleaner if there's a clear
paper trail of him paying the rent and you paying him for his
services. Same difference in the end but when you deduct all your
business losses on this rental from your taxes next year, the
documentation may be helpful.


Allan


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> It’s so tempting. I’m honestly not sure what we are going to do at this 
> point. We had a guy come over who is a contractor that was originally 
> scheduled to view the house to lease when we were showing it but had to 
> cancel due to a family deal. We got him over together to work up quotes for 
> the utility room in order to sue the past renters. We also sent him over to 
> my dads house to do some work. When we discovered the bathroom issue he came 
> back over to look at that as well. He was interested in possibly working out 
> a deal with him doing the work and us taking a portion off rent for a certain 
> amount of time till whatever number he comes up with is paid. Waiting on a 
> number. The other alternative is to simply do the work ourselves as 
> originally planned, carry the mortgage for a couple of months then relist it 
> again and start from scratch. Could probably actually charge more as I think 
> we had it priced too cheap in the first place. 
>
> I went and bought a fan and crawled back under the house and set it up to dry 
> it out from underneath. As I said the floor joists still seemed solid and 
> even the OSB subfloor didn’t appear to be weak like it was about to fall 
> thru. If we simply dry it out and do not take up the tile in that bathroom 
> and replace, I am wondering if once it dries out it doesn’t start crumbling 
> down the line. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Okie lighting?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0
>>> 
>>> I'm just sayin'.
>>> 
>>> -MMM-
>>> 
 On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend
 were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the
 earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and
 full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave
 them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and
 decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. I
 can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old renters cost
 us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start from
 scratch.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> 
> Only way to find out is to ask ...
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
>> would cover it due to negligence.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
>> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better.
 Hosed
>> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have
 the o
>> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I
 pulled
>> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there
 was a
>> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side
 and it
>> also has mold.
>>> Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
>> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we
 got
>> to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
>> needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not
 see
>> any leaks. The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor
 joists
>> and the osb subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue
 was
>> it appears the gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact
 the
>> whole tank was wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank
>> came off. Bolts must have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it.
 It
>> would have been impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think
 i

Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s so tempting. I’m honestly not sure what we are going to do at this point. 
We had a guy come over who is a contractor that was originally scheduled to 
view the house to lease when we were showing it but had to cancel due to a 
family deal. We got him over together to work up quotes for the utility room in 
order to sue the past renters. We also sent him over to my dads house to do 
some work. When we discovered the bathroom issue he came back over to look at 
that as well. He was interested in possibly working out a deal with him doing 
the work and us taking a portion off rent for a certain amount of time till 
whatever number he comes up with is paid. Waiting on a number. The other 
alternative is to simply do the work ourselves as originally planned, carry the 
mortgage for a couple of months then relist it again and start from scratch. 
Could probably actually charge more as I think we had it priced too cheap in 
the first place. 

I went and bought a fan and crawled back under the house and set it up to dry 
it out from underneath. As I said the floor joists still seemed solid and even 
the OSB subfloor didn’t appear to be weak like it was about to fall thru. If we 
simply dry it out and do not take up the tile in that bathroom and replace, I 
am wondering if once it dries out it doesn’t start crumbling down the line. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Okie lighting?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0
>> 
>> I'm just sayin'.
>> 
>> -MMM-
>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend
>>> were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the
>>> earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and
>>> full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave
>>> them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and
>>> decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. I
>>> can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old renters cost
>>> us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start from
>>> scratch.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
 
 Only way to find out is to ask ...
 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
> would cover it due to negligence.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better.
>>> Hosed
> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have
>>> the o
> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I
>>> pulled
> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there
>>> was a
> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side
>>> and it
> also has mold.
>> Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we
>>> got
> to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
> needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not
>>> see
> any leaks. The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor
>>> joists
> and the osb subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue
>>> was
> it appears the gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact
>>> the
> whole tank was wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank
> came off. Bolts must have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it.
>>> It
> would have been impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think
>>> if
> we can get it dried out quick maybe it won’t rot out, but I’m afraid
>>> maybe
> it will be OK now but later down the line it might be an issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Okie lighting?

-D

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0
> 
> I'm just sayin'.
> 
> -MMM-
> 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend
>> were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the
>> earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and
>> full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave
>> them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and
>> decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. I
>> can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old renters cost
>> us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start from
>> scratch.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Only way to find out is to ask ...
>>> 
 On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
 would cover it due to negligence.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
>> wrote:
> 
> Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
 portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better.
>> Hosed
 that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have
>> the o
 zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I
>> pulled
 the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there
>> was a
 huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side
>> and it
 also has mold.
> Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
 bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we
>> got
 to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
 needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not
>> see
 any leaks. The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor
>> joists
 and the osb subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue
>> was
 it appears the gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact
>> the
 whole tank was wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank
 came off. Bolts must have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it.
>> It
 would have been impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think
>> if
 we can get it dried out quick maybe it won’t rot out, but I’m afraid
>> maybe
 it will be OK now but later down the line it might be an issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Can-Spill-Proof-Container/dp/B00SLPYJX0

I'm just sayin'.

-MMM-

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend
> were told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the
> earliest. They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and
> full disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave
> them the option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and
> decided after thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. I
> can’t blame them. So now in addition to all the damage the old renters cost
> us a months worth of time and the new renters. Will have to start from
> scratch.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Only way to find out is to ask ...
> >
> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
> >> would cover it due to negligence.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
> >> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better.
> Hosed
> >> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have
> the o
> >> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I
> pulled
> >> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there
> was a
> >> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side
> and it
> >> also has mold.
> >>> Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
> >> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we
> got
> >> to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
> >> needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not
> see
> >> any leaks. The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor
> joists
> >> and the osb subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue
> was
> >> it appears the gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact
> the
> >> whole tank was wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank
> >> came off. Bolts must have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it.
> It
> >> would have been impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think
> if
> >> we can get it dried out quick maybe it won’t rot out, but I’m afraid
> maybe
> >> it will be OK now but later down the line it might be an issue.
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The folks we signed a lease with that were due to move in next weekend were 
told of the situation and it would probably be end of month at the earliest. 
They wanted to come out and look. After a lengthy discussion and full 
disclosure they said they still wanted to lease the house. We gave them the 
option to refund their deposit. Later on they messaged us and decided after 
thinking about it they decided they couldn’t move in there. I can’t blame them. 
So now in addition to all the damage the old renters cost us a months worth of 
time and the new renters. Will have to start from scratch. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Only way to find out is to ask ...
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
>> would cover it due to negligence.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
>> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better. Hosed
>> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have the o
>> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I pulled
>> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there was a
>> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side and it
>> also has mold.
>>> Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
>> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we got
>> to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
>> needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not see
>> any leaks. The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor joists
>> and the osb subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue was
>> it appears the gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact the
>> whole tank was wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank
>> came off. Bolts must have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it. It
>> would have been impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think if
>> we can get it dried out quick maybe it won’t rot out, but I’m afraid maybe
>> it will be OK now but later down the line it might be an issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
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> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

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Only way to find out is to ask ...

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA
> would cover it due to negligence.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> >
> > Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs
> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better. Hosed
> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have the o
> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I pulled
> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there was a
> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side and it
> also has mold.
> > Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that
> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we got
> to the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it
> needed to replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not see
> any leaks. The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor joists
> and the osb subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue was
> it appears the gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact the
> whole tank was wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank
> came off. Bolts must have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it. It
> would have been impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think if
> we can get it dried out quick maybe it won’t rot out, but I’m afraid maybe
> it will be OK now but later down the line it might be an issue.
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>have the o zone machine running and it smells >much better.


You probably already know this, but don't breathe that ozone from the machine. 
It is very toxic. 

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the rental house

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

PS thought about trying to file an insurance claim but I’m not sure USAA would 
cover it due to negligence. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Just finished removing ALL of the carpet and padding in the downstairs 
> portion of the house. Good news is the house smells 100 times better. Hosed 
> that office area concrete down with that pet enzymes stuff then have the o 
> zone machine running and it smells much better. Bad news is when I pulled  
> the padding up in one of the bedrooms next to the 2nd bathroom there was a 
> huge patch of mold. Pulled padding up from the bedroom on other side and it 
> also has mold.
> Oh boy. Crawled back under house and it’s a total disaster under that 
> bathroom and toilet active water leaking right out of toilet. When we got to 
> the house I noticed the toilet running all the time and figured it needed to 
> replace the valve but there was no power on yet so could not see any leaks. 
> The entire area under there is soaked. Somehow the floor joists and the osb 
> subfloor while soaked does not feel rotted yet. The issue was it appears the 
> gasket from the tank to the bottom was leaking. In fact the whole tank was 
> wobbling. When I went to pull the toilet the entire tank came off. Bolts must 
> have either rusted loose or they somehow broke it. It would have been 
> impossible for them not to have noticed a leak. I think if we can get it 
> dried out quick maybe it won’t rot out, but I’m afraid maybe it will be OK 
> now but later down the line it might be an issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 210 cooling situation

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It has the aux electric fans.  I pulled it out when I replaced the 
radiator so I could replace the belt between the 2 fans. Cleaned it all 
out at the same time.


On 7/12/2020 2:14 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Does this car have an electric fan?  If so, might remove it and look for a ton 
of smashed bugs between the fan and condenser.  Had this issue on the wagon, 
ran a lot cooler after I got the crap out of the condenser and radiator, 
especially after I replaced the condenser -- had a hole in it and oil from the 
Freon caused a ton of dirt to stick.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 210 cooling situation

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Hold down the rest button till the display changes, then hit the auto 
button on the left to scroll to #6.  Will also show battery voltage as 
well, great for diagnosing charging issues.


On 7/12/2020 2:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

I never knew you could display water temp on the climate control system.
How do you do that?

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 210 cooling situation

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Here's a video on what the W210 ACC will display.

https://youtu.be/vZNW3Y2vzmg

And error codes.

https://youtu.be/sxMgM6Oj8IY

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 210 cooling situation

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Does this car have an electric fan?  If so, might remove it and look for a ton 
of smashed bugs between the fan and condenser.  Had this issue on the wagon, 
ran a lot cooler after I got the crap out of the condenser and radiator, 
especially after I replaced the condenser -- had a hole in it and oil from the 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 210 cooling situation

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I never knew you could display water temp on the climate control system.
How do you do that?

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well that's good news!  Once you get it sorted, come drop it at my place
and pick up one of my cars to drag back for parts.
-
Max
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> After finally getting all the air out of the system after swapping out the
> radiator it still seemed to get hot to me. Today I swapped out the fan
> clutch with a new acp (?) one from FCP. Box says Borg Warner. Anyway it
> seems to be engaging fine. Let car run for about 20 minutes then let it set
> idling for another 20-30 minutes. Photo attached is about where the temp
> reached and stayed. It’s 93 out currently. Seems normal to me but now my
> paranoid self from reading all the idiotic Fakebook posts about temp has me
> thinking maybe temp is too high. AC was running the whole time also. At
> this point after screwing around with it the system is just about straight
> water. Tomorrow I’m probably going to drain it again then use my new HF
> vacuum filler to fill it back up with the proper ratio. I may drive it
> around for a little bit then if all is good probably take it off the road
> for some front end work (after I get my lift going)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

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Verify the temp reading with another thermometer -- it could be the gauge.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 2:10 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I just took it out on the highway up to 70mph for a couple of miles. Temp
> stays right at the same spot. I wonder if it’s due to straight water? Or
> maybe I just just put a new radiator in it since I don’t know the history
> of the one I did put in it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 11, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'd not be too upset by that temp idling with the AC on at 95F.
> >
> > You should be getting the high speed electric fan cycling at that temp
> though.
> >
> > Get proper coolant in it soon though -- water will be boiling in the
> head if the pressure isn't high enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

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I would replace the thermostat, they often don't work well after being 
overheated.

Check the operation of the electric fan if so equipped as well.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

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I did not replace the thermostat now, but did not too long ago and it had the 
effect of the car always running too cool later ran the correct temp. I do have 
another new one on hand. Since I’m draining it again anyway I’m half tempted to 
just go ahead and replace it again. 

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> On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you put in a new thermostat?  Could it be sticking or not the correct 
> temp?  In any case that is not concerning temp at the ambient temp, maybe a 
> bit high but within tolerance
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/11/20 3:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I just took it out on the highway up to 70mph for a couple of miles. Temp 
>> stays right at the same spot. I wonder if it’s due to straight water? Or 
>> maybe I just just put a new radiator in it since I don’t know the history of 
>> the one I did put in it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd not be too upset by that temp idling with the AC on at 95F.
>>> 
>>> You should be getting the high speed electric fan cycling at that temp 
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> Get proper coolant in it soon though -- water will be boiling in the head 
>>> if the pressure isn't high enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did you put in a new thermostat?  Could it be sticking or not the 
correct temp?  In any case that is not concerning temp at the ambient 
temp, maybe a bit high but within tolerance


--FT

On 7/11/20 3:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I just took it out on the highway up to 70mph for a couple of miles. Temp stays 
right at the same spot. I wonder if it’s due to straight water? Or maybe I just 
just put a new radiator in it since I don’t know the history of the one I did 
put in it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I'd not be too upset by that temp idling with the AC on at 95F.

You should be getting the high speed electric fan cycling at that temp though.

Get proper coolant in it soon though -- water will be boiling in the head if 
the pressure isn't high enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I just took it out on the highway up to 70mph for a couple of miles. Temp stays 
right at the same spot. I wonder if it’s due to straight water? Or maybe I just 
just put a new radiator in it since I don’t know the history of the one I did 
put in it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd not be too upset by that temp idling with the AC on at 95F.  
> 
> You should be getting the high speed electric fan cycling at that temp though.
> 
> Get proper coolant in it soon though -- water will be boiling in the head if 
> the pressure isn't high enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

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I'd not be too upset by that temp idling with the AC on at 95F.  

You should be getting the high speed electric fan cycling at that temp though.

Get proper coolant in it soon though -- water will be boiling in the head if 
the pressure isn't high enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

95 seems kind of hot, but not enough to get worried about.
If it was 90 I might not think anything of it.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

After finally getting all the air out of the system after swapping out the 
radiator it still seemed to get hot to me. Today I swapped out the fan clutch 
with a new acp (?) one from FCP. Box says Borg Warner. Anyway it seems to be 
engaging fine. Let car run for about 20 minutes then let it set idling for 
another 20-30 minutes. Photo attached is about where the temp reached and 
stayed. It’s 93 out currently. Seems normal to me but now my paranoid self from 
reading all the idiotic Fakebook posts about temp has me thinking maybe temp is 
too high. AC was running the whole time also. At this point after screwing 
around with it the system is just about straight water. Tomorrow I’m probably 
going to drain it again then use my new HF vacuum filler to fill it back up 
with the proper ratio. I may drive it around for a little bit then if all is 
good probably take it off the road for some front end work (after I get my lift 
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Re: [MBZ] Update - Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

It might have been more fun if the 240D were manual, but this way you can
just build a 300D in a 240D donor body. Every part you need should be on
the 300D. I might be wrong, but I think the 240D auto is mechanically the
same, might have lower hydraulic pressures. 240D box with the valve body
from the dead 300D box might be an option.

You'll probably want to use a 300D differential.

I forget, is 1983 the last year for cheap license plates or the first year
for expensive plates?

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[MBZ] Update - Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]


Phase one is complete.  I have removed the donor engine from the 84 300D with 
a bad transmission. I am in the process of replacing the the front seal and 
checking other components and replacing as needed. 
Next phase is removing transmission from 2nd donor car. (83 300D). I’ve been 
told by several that the 240D transmission won’t hold up to the additional 
torque of the turbo engine. 
I will need a new/used exhaust system. Does anyone have any information on a 
used stainless system that is for sale.  Rick was able to provide one for my 
last project (85 300D) that is currently in Texas and being used as a daily 
driver by my daughter. 
Mike 



I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D transmission 
matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 

I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
showing its  age. 
Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Update on The COVID Chronicles

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truth is banned


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 18, 2020 at 10:53 AM
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Re: [MBZ] Update on The COVID Chronicles

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Not appropriate content for this list. The poster has been warned.

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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> FYI.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> http://traffic.libsyn.com/thepublicsquare/Apr1820.mp3?dest-id=208554
> 
> Fri, 17 April 2020
> COVID Chronicles Update #8: Behind the Curtain
> 
> First we were told to listen to "the science". Then we were told to
> "follow the science". Now we are being told, "Pay no attention to the
> science behind the curtain." It may not be comfortable to ask elected
> officials tough questions in the midst of a crisis but that is what we
> are doing this week on The Public Square®.
> 
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> program will give you a look behind the curtain. 
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[MBZ] Update on The COVID Chronicles

[Craig via Mercedes]

FYI.


Craig


http://traffic.libsyn.com/thepublicsquare/Apr1820.mp3?dest-id=208554

Fri, 17 April 2020
COVID Chronicles Update #8: Behind the Curtain

First we were told to listen to "the science". Then we were told to
"follow the science". Now we are being told, "Pay no attention to the
science behind the curtain." It may not be comfortable to ask elected
officials tough questions in the midst of a crisis but that is what we
are doing this week on The Public Square®.

If you are tired of being stuck at home and without a paycheck, this
program will give you a look behind the curtain. 

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Re: [MBZ] Update on Corona outbreak

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Today and tomorrow or just today?

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:53 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I totally believe the Chicomms
>
> --FTj
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> > On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Feb. 21, 2020 at 9:48 p.m. EST Washington Post online
> > Refresh for updates
> > <
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/21/81d2aa50-543e-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html?rand=6
> >
> >
> > For the third time in eight days — and the second time in 24 hours —
> > Chinese public health officials made changes Friday to their criteria for
> > counting coronavirus cases, once again sowing confusion over the widely
> > fluctuating figures
> > <
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/20/confusion-mounts-over-chinas-counting-methods-coronavirus-numbers-swing-wildly/?tid=lk_inline_manual_2&itid=lk_inline_manual_2
> >.
> > In a further sign of potential inconsistencies, an official in China’s
> > Hubei Health Commission suggested that agencies were not being
> transparent
> > and accurate in their reported case numbers.
> >
> > Another death amid a surge in coronavirus cases in South Korea — many
> > traced to a church — also provoked fresh alarm Friday, after Chinese
> > authorities reported hundreds of new infections at prisons, undercutting
> > Beijing’s effort to show progress
> > <
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/for-chinas-leaders-pop-up-hospitals-are-about-politics-as-much-as-health/2020/02/11/d94828d2-463d-11ea-91ab-ce439aa5c7c1_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_3&itid=lk_inline_manual_3
> >
> > in containing the deadly epidemic.
> >
> > The prison outbreaks underscored the high transmissibility of the virus,
> > officially called SARS-CoV-2, in confined spaces. People on board the
> Diamond
> > Princess cruise ship
> > <
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/japans-coronavirus-response-on-cruise-ship-completely-inadequate-says-health-expert/2020/02/19/881e7218-5150-11ea-80ce-37a8d4266c09_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_4&itid=lk_inline_manual_4
> >
> > docked in Japan also have been hit hard by covid-19, the disease caused
> by
> > the virus.
> >
> > Meanwhile, Lebanon and Israel reported their first coronavirus cases, and
> > infection numbers rose in Italy. By Friday night, Italy had reported its
> > first death from the virus: a 78-year-old man. Authorities in Iran also
> > reported two deaths among 13 new infections, raising the tally there to
> 18
> > cases.
> >
> > Here are the latest developments:
> >
> > ●A second person died of covid-19 and cases in South Korea soared, with
> > investigators focusing on a church and hospital as clusters of infection
> in
> > the southern city of Daegu.
> >
> > ● Hundreds of passengers were disembarking from the Diamond Princess, but
> > the massive case load left questions about the rigor of quarantine and
> > testing procedures on board.
> >
> > ● Italy confirmed its first death from the virus Friday night. Earlier,
> > Israel announced its first coronavirus case — a Diamond Princess
> passenger
> > — while Lebanon reported its first infection — someone who had just
> > traveled from Iran.
> >
> > ● Beijing braced for a potential explosion of infection numbers in the
> > capital after two hospitals were put under quarantine.
> >
> > ● World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
> > said that Friday’s “significant decrease in confirmed cases is partly due
> > to another change in the way China reports numbers.”
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Corona outbreak

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I totally believe the Chicomms

--FTj
Sent from iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Feb. 21, 2020 at 9:48 p.m. EST Washington Post online
> Refresh for updates
> 
> 
> For the third time in eight days — and the second time in 24 hours —
> Chinese public health officials made changes Friday to their criteria for
> counting coronavirus cases, once again sowing confusion over the widely
> fluctuating figures
> .
> In a further sign of potential inconsistencies, an official in China’s
> Hubei Health Commission suggested that agencies were not being transparent
> and accurate in their reported case numbers.
> 
> Another death amid a surge in coronavirus cases in South Korea — many
> traced to a church — also provoked fresh alarm Friday, after Chinese
> authorities reported hundreds of new infections at prisons, undercutting
> Beijing’s effort to show progress
> 
> in containing the deadly epidemic.
> 
> The prison outbreaks underscored the high transmissibility of the virus,
> officially called SARS-CoV-2, in confined spaces. People on board the Diamond
> Princess cruise ship
> 
> docked in Japan also have been hit hard by covid-19, the disease caused by
> the virus.
> 
> Meanwhile, Lebanon and Israel reported their first coronavirus cases, and
> infection numbers rose in Italy. By Friday night, Italy had reported its
> first death from the virus: a 78-year-old man. Authorities in Iran also
> reported two deaths among 13 new infections, raising the tally there to 18
> cases.
> 
> Here are the latest developments:
> 
> ●A second person died of covid-19 and cases in South Korea soared, with
> investigators focusing on a church and hospital as clusters of infection in
> the southern city of Daegu.
> 
> ● Hundreds of passengers were disembarking from the Diamond Princess, but
> the massive case load left questions about the rigor of quarantine and
> testing procedures on board.
> 
> ● Italy confirmed its first death from the virus Friday night. Earlier,
> Israel announced its first coronavirus case — a Diamond Princess passenger
> — while Lebanon reported its first infection — someone who had just
> traveled from Iran.
> 
> ● Beijing braced for a potential explosion of infection numbers in the
> capital after two hospitals were put under quarantine.
> 
> ● World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
> said that Friday’s “significant decrease in confirmed cases is partly due
> to another change in the way China reports numbers.”
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[MBZ] Update on Corona outbreak

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Feb. 21, 2020 at 9:48 p.m. EST Washington Post online
Refresh for updates


For the third time in eight days — and the second time in 24 hours —
Chinese public health officials made changes Friday to their criteria for
counting coronavirus cases, once again sowing confusion over the widely
fluctuating figures
.
In a further sign of potential inconsistencies, an official in China’s
Hubei Health Commission suggested that agencies were not being transparent
and accurate in their reported case numbers.

Another death amid a surge in coronavirus cases in South Korea — many
traced to a church — also provoked fresh alarm Friday, after Chinese
authorities reported hundreds of new infections at prisons, undercutting
Beijing’s effort to show progress

in containing the deadly epidemic.

The prison outbreaks underscored the high transmissibility of the virus,
officially called SARS-CoV-2, in confined spaces. People on board the Diamond
Princess cruise ship

docked in Japan also have been hit hard by covid-19, the disease caused by
the virus.

Meanwhile, Lebanon and Israel reported their first coronavirus cases, and
infection numbers rose in Italy. By Friday night, Italy had reported its
first death from the virus: a 78-year-old man. Authorities in Iran also
reported two deaths among 13 new infections, raising the tally there to 18
cases.

Here are the latest developments:

●A second person died of covid-19 and cases in South Korea soared, with
investigators focusing on a church and hospital as clusters of infection in
the southern city of Daegu.

● Hundreds of passengers were disembarking from the Diamond Princess, but
the massive case load left questions about the rigor of quarantine and
testing procedures on board.

● Italy confirmed its first death from the virus Friday night. Earlier,
Israel announced its first coronavirus case — a Diamond Princess passenger
— while Lebanon reported its first infection — someone who had just
traveled from Iran.

● Beijing braced for a potential explosion of infection numbers in the
capital after two hospitals were put under quarantine.

● World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
said that Friday’s “significant decrease in confirmed cases is partly due
to another change in the way China reports numbers.”
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Best way to adjust the Bowden cable is to remove the cap from the ball, pull on 
the cable until you feel resistance, and see if the cap on the cable lines up 
over the ball on the linkage. If it doesn’t, carefully turn the threaded 
adjusting but on the cable jacket end to move the cable so it lines up over the 
ball.

In other words, with the slack taken out of the cable, the cap on the end of 
the cable should fit directly over the ball without moving the cable.

Be careful turning the adjusting nut, as they can often stick or bind due to 
dirt and aging of the plastic. You see a lot of them broken these days, either 
from age or mishandling. If it’s broken, the only fix is replacement of the 
cable, not a fun job.

-D

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 4:46 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The transmission shift points are INCREDIBLY sensitive to the adjustment of 
> underhood linkages etc. Like, one or two millimetres can radically change the 
> transmission's behaviour.
> 
> There is a detailed set of model-specific instructions in the MB 123 service 
> manual covering the systematic adjustment of all the linkages, which BEGINS 
> with ensuring that the accelerator control is set correctly (as its 
> adjustment affects the transmission). 
> 
> That procedure also has plenty of photos of the various components, incl. the 
> Bowden cable and the vacuum controls present on many 123 and 126 models. 
> 
> D. 
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2019, Don Snook wrote:
>> 
>> Do I turn the nut to make it tighter or looser?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

The transmission shift points are INCREDIBLY sensitive to the adjustment of 
underhood linkages etc. Like, one or two millimetres can radically change the 
transmission's behaviour.

There is a detailed set of model-specific instructions in the MB 123 service 
manual covering the systematic adjustment of all the linkages, which BEGINS 
with ensuring that the accelerator control is set correctly (as its adjustment 
affects the transmission). 

That procedure also has plenty of photos of the various components, incl. the 
Bowden cable and the vacuum controls present on many 123 and 126 models. 

D. 

> On Oct 4, 2019, Don Snook wrote:
> 
> Do I turn the nut to make it tighter or looser?

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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Yeah, just pop the end of the cable off the ball on the linkage.  You
should pull it and get some good spring resistance, then it should go back
in by itself.  If its very easy to pull and/or doesn't go back in, its
broken.  Adjusted properly, it should just be under slight tension when the
linkage is idle, so it gets pulled as soon as the linkage moves.

Jaime


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:05 PM Don Snook  wrote:

> I think you and Meade are exactly right.   I don't think it shifted again
> between 20 and 75.  It sounded like it was revving pretty high at 70 mph.
>  The third little sets of dots is around 70 mph.  This car DEFINITELY did
> not shift again at those speeds.  While I was driving here (500 mile trip
> that was 90% highway) I don't think it shifted past 30 mph.  But, I don't
> know specifically.SO, now I need to figure out how to check the Bowden
> cable.  That's the little squiggly red cable thing, right?
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Kopchinski 
> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 1:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
>
> I think you have a broken bowden cable.
>
> Normally the transmission sits in second gear at idle and stationary.  It
> downshifts to first when you step on the accelerator any amount.  When its
> adjusted properly, you never even notice.  This is to reduce creep.
>
> Since you are starting in second gear and shifting early, It seems very
> likely its the cable.  That is, the transmission doesn't know you're
> accelerating.
>
> In L, it will hold first gear unit redline no matter how hard you press
> the accelerator.  If you move it to S and back to L quickly, you'll be in
> second at that point.  Shift back up to S and you'll be in third.  And D
> goes to forth if you're going fast enough.  Try winding out each gear like
> this to ensure you can distinctly feel each one.
>
> Its very likely you're not getting into 4th and you drove without any
> issues at 70mph for a long period of time.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:14 PM Don Snook  wrote:
>
> > Ok.  I took it for a drive for lunch.  I think these start out in second
> > unless it is floored then the kickdown works.   So, I left work and
> floored
> > it.  I think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph.
> > Then, I don't think it shifted again.  Really.  I never felt another
> > shift.   So, I tried taking a side road.  I pulled over and put the
> shifter
> > into L.  I assume that means it is in first.  I let the revs get
> > pretty high and moved it up to S and it shifted.  Then, I went ahead and
> moved it
> > to D.   It still did not shift again.   Could this be starting in second
> > and then staying in third without getting to 4th or overdrive?  When
> > the tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg was about 3100 rpm which
> > would be pretty accurate.  But, when I drove it on the highway it felt
> > like one shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts.  It just stayed in
> > that gear all the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that
> > because of traffic and cops.  I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored
> > it.  It had already shifted, but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never
> down shifted.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jaime Kopchinski 
> > Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
> >
> > To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and
> > set the modulator pressure by the book.  It takes the guess work out
> > of it and really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm
> > shifts.  There are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is
> > easy... just remove the plug next to the modulator and connect up the
> hose to the gauge.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the
> > > shifting of the transmission.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good progress!
> > > >
> > > > What is the zero to 60 time?
> > > > -
> > > > Max
> > > > Charleston SC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019

Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Don Snook via Mercedes]

I think you and Meade are exactly right.   I don't think it shifted again 
between 20 and 75.  It sounded like it was revving pretty high at 70 mph.   The 
third little sets of dots is around 70 mph.  This car DEFINITELY did not shift 
again at those speeds.  While I was driving here (500 mile trip that was 90% 
highway) I don't think it shifted past 30 mph.  But, I don't know specifically. 
   SO, now I need to figure out how to check the Bowden cable.  That's the 
little squiggly red cable thing, right? 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Jaime Kopchinski  
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 1:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

I think you have a broken bowden cable.

Normally the transmission sits in second gear at idle and stationary.  It 
downshifts to first when you step on the accelerator any amount.  When its 
adjusted properly, you never even notice.  This is to reduce creep.

Since you are starting in second gear and shifting early, It seems very likely 
its the cable.  That is, the transmission doesn't know you're accelerating.

In L, it will hold first gear unit redline no matter how hard you press the 
accelerator.  If you move it to S and back to L quickly, you'll be in second at 
that point.  Shift back up to S and you'll be in third.  And D goes to forth if 
you're going fast enough.  Try winding out each gear like this to ensure you 
can distinctly feel each one.

Its very likely you're not getting into 4th and you drove without any issues at 
70mph for a long period of time.

Jaime


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:14 PM Don Snook  wrote:

> Ok.  I took it for a drive for lunch.  I think these start out in second
> unless it is floored then the kickdown works.   So, I left work and floored
> it.  I think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph.
> Then, I don't think it shifted again.  Really.  I never felt another
> shift.   So, I tried taking a side road.  I pulled over and put the shifter
> into L.  I assume that means it is in first.  I let the revs get 
> pretty high and moved it up to S and it shifted.  Then, I went ahead and 
> moved it
> to D.   It still did not shift again.   Could this be starting in second
> and then staying in third without getting to 4th or overdrive?  When 
> the tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg was about 3100 rpm which 
> would be pretty accurate.  But, when I drove it on the highway it felt 
> like one shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts.  It just stayed in 
> that gear all the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that 
> because of traffic and cops.  I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored 
> it.  It had already shifted, but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never down 
> shifted.
>
> Don Snook
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Jaime Kopchinski 
> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
>
> To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and 
> set the modulator pressure by the book.  It takes the guess work out 
> of it and really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm 
> shifts.  There are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is 
> easy... just remove the plug next to the modulator and connect up the hose to 
> the gauge.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the 
> > shifting of the transmission.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Good progress!
> > >
> > > What is the zero to 60 time?
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes < 
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to 
> > > > be said quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred 
> > > > to himself in
> > > the
> > > > third person.   The reason for the possible name is
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1.   It is funny
> > > >
> > > > 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
> > > >
> > > > 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I
> suppose I
> > > > could call it Chiquita)
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff 
> > >

Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You know that when he was running for president it apparently became 
quite a joke in the Arab world, supposedly because "Dole" in arabic 
means "penis."


-FT

On 10/4/19 12:18 PM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said quickly 
like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in the third person.   The 
reason for the possible name is


1.   It is funny

2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years

3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I could 
call it Chiquita)

Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent 
(Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel purge.  
Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo bolt and 
cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt was bigger.  
It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was clogged up black 
thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The cap danced a little.  But, 
not much.   I was watching a video from Kent where he proposes an old diesel 
cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a little liquid moly oil supplement 
and runs the car from an external tank and uses the whole gallon of vegetable 
oil.   It did seem to improve the smoothness and he claimed it could help with 
blowby.  I'm sure it can't hurt.  I am going to try it later.

BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG difference.  
Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot faster.   I think the 
vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be addressed.  The shifts 
are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so smooth I can't feel the second one.   
It feels like it might be starting in second and then it shifts pretty early 
and then I don't feel the next shift at all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, 
at lunch I will try again to see if I can determine where the shifts occur.

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I think you have a broken bowden cable.

Normally the transmission sits in second gear at idle and stationary.  It
downshifts to first when you step on the accelerator any amount.  When its
adjusted properly, you never even notice.  This is to reduce creep.

Since you are starting in second gear and shifting early, It seems very
likely its the cable.  That is, the transmission doesn't know you're
accelerating.

In L, it will hold first gear unit redline no matter how hard you press the
accelerator.  If you move it to S and back to L quickly, you'll be in
second at that point.  Shift back up to S and you'll be in third.  And D
goes to forth if you're going fast enough.  Try winding out each gear like
this to ensure you can distinctly feel each one.

Its very likely you're not getting into 4th and you drove without any
issues at 70mph for a long period of time.

Jaime


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:14 PM Don Snook  wrote:

> Ok.  I took it for a drive for lunch.  I think these start out in second
> unless it is floored then the kickdown works.   So, I left work and floored
> it.  I think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph.
> Then, I don't think it shifted again.  Really.  I never felt another
> shift.   So, I tried taking a side road.  I pulled over and put the shifter
> into L.  I assume that means it is in first.  I let the revs get pretty
> high and moved it up to S and it shifted.  Then, I went ahead and moved it
> to D.   It still did not shift again.   Could this be starting in second
> and then staying in third without getting to 4th or overdrive?  When the
> tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg was about 3100 rpm which would be
> pretty accurate.  But, when I drove it on the highway it felt like one
> shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts.  It just stayed in that gear all
> the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that because of traffic and
> cops.  I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored it.  It had already shifted,
> but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never down shifted.
>
> Don Snook
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Kopchinski 
> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
>
> To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and set
> the modulator pressure by the book.  It takes the guess work out of it and
> really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm shifts.  There
> are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is easy... just remove
> the plug next to the modulator and connect up the hose to the gauge.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the shifting
> > of the transmission.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Good progress!
> > >
> > > What is the zero to 60 time?
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be
> > > > said quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to
> > > > himself in
> > > the
> > > > third person.   The reason for the possible name is
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1.   It is funny
> > > >
> > > > 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
> > > >
> > > > 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I
> suppose I
> > > > could call it Chiquita)
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff
> > > > from
> > Kent
> > > > (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel
> > > > purge.  Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the
> banjo
> > > > bolt and cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo
> > bolt
> > > > was bigger.  It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt
> was
> > > > clogged up black thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The
> > cap
> > > > danced a little.  But, not much.   I was watching a video from Kent
> > where
> > > > he proposes an old diesel cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds
> a
> > > > little liquid moly oil suppleme

Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Don Snook via Mercedes]

Ok.  I took it for a drive for lunch.  I think these start out in second unless 
it is floored then the kickdown works.   So, I left work and floored it.  I 
think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph.  Then, I don't 
think it shifted again.  Really.  I never felt another shift.   So, I tried 
taking a side road.  I pulled over and put the shifter into L.  I assume that 
means it is in first.  I let the revs get pretty high and moved it up to S and 
it shifted.  Then, I went ahead and moved it to D.   It still did not shift 
again.   Could this be starting in second and then staying in third without 
getting to 4th or overdrive?  When the tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg 
was about 3100 rpm which would be pretty accurate.  But, when I drove it on the 
highway it felt like one shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts.  It just 
stayed in that gear all the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that 
because of traffic and cops.  I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored it.  It had 
already shifted, but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never down shifted.  

Don Snook   



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From: Jaime Kopchinski  
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and set the 
modulator pressure by the book.  It takes the guess work out of it and really 
does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm shifts.  There are a few 
cheap gauge kits out there and connection is easy... just remove the plug next 
to the modulator and connect up the hose to the gauge.

Jaime


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the shifting 
> of the transmission.
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Good progress!
> >
> > What is the zero to 60 time?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be 
> > > said quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to 
> > > himself in
> > the
> > > third person.   The reason for the possible name is
> > >
> > >
> > > 1.   It is funny
> > >
> > > 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
> > >
> > > 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I
> > > could call it Chiquita)
> > >
> > > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff 
> > > from
> Kent
> > > (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel
> > > purge.  Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo
> > > bolt and cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo
> bolt
> > > was bigger.  It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was
> > > clogged up black thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The
> cap
> > > danced a little.  But, not much.   I was watching a video from Kent
> where
> > > he proposes an old diesel cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a
> > > little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an 
> > > external
> tank
> > > and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil.   It did seem to improve
> the
> > > smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby.  I'm sure it 
> > > can't hurt.  I am going to try it later.
> > >
> > > BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG 
> > > difference.  Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot
> > faster.
> > >  I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be 
> > > addressed.  The shifts are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so
> smooth I
> > > can't feel the second one.   It feels like it might be starting in
> second
> > > and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at
> > > all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, at lunch I will try again to see
> > if I
> > > can determine where the shifts occur.
> > >
> > > Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and set
the modulator pressure by the book.  It takes the guess work out of it and
really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm shifts.  There
are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is easy... just remove
the plug next to the modulator and connect up the hose to the gauge.

Jaime


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the shifting of
> the transmission.
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Good progress!
> >
> > What is the zero to 60 time?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said
> > > quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in
> > the
> > > third person.   The reason for the possible name is
> > >
> > >
> > > 1.   It is funny
> > >
> > > 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
> > >
> > > 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I
> > > could call it Chiquita)
> > >
> > > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from
> Kent
> > > (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel
> > > purge.  Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo
> > > bolt and cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo
> bolt
> > > was bigger.  It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was
> > > clogged up black thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The
> cap
> > > danced a little.  But, not much.   I was watching a video from Kent
> where
> > > he proposes an old diesel cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a
> > > little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an external
> tank
> > > and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil.   It did seem to improve
> the
> > > smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby.  I'm sure it can't
> > > hurt.  I am going to try it later.
> > >
> > > BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG
> > > difference.  Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot
> > faster.
> > >  I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be
> > > addressed.  The shifts are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so
> smooth I
> > > can't feel the second one.   It feels like it might be starting in
> second
> > > and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at
> > > all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, at lunch I will try again to see
> > if I
> > > can determine where the shifts occur.
> > >
> > > Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the shifting of
the transmission.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Good progress!
>
> What is the zero to 60 time?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said
> > quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in
> the
> > third person.   The reason for the possible name is
> >
> >
> > 1.   It is funny
> >
> > 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
> >
> > 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I
> > could call it Chiquita)
> >
> > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent
> > (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel
> > purge.  Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo
> > bolt and cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt
> > was bigger.  It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was
> > clogged up black thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The cap
> > danced a little.  But, not much.   I was watching a video from Kent where
> > he proposes an old diesel cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a
> > little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an external tank
> > and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil.   It did seem to improve the
> > smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby.  I'm sure it can't
> > hurt.  I am going to try it later.
> >
> > BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG
> > difference.  Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot
> faster.
> >  I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be
> > addressed.  The shifts are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so smooth I
> > can't feel the second one.   It feels like it might be starting in second
> > and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at
> > all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, at lunch I will try again to see
> if I
> > can determine where the shifts occur.
> >
> > Donald H. Snook
> > ___
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Good progress!

What is the zero to 60 time?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said
> quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in the
> third person.   The reason for the possible name is
>
>
> 1.   It is funny
>
> 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
>
> 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I
> could call it Chiquita)
>
> Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent
> (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel
> purge.  Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo
> bolt and cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt
> was bigger.  It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was
> clogged up black thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The cap
> danced a little.  But, not much.   I was watching a video from Kent where
> he proposes an old diesel cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a
> little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an external tank
> and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil.   It did seem to improve the
> smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby.  I'm sure it can't
> hurt.  I am going to try it later.
>
> BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG
> difference.  Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot faster.
>  I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be
> addressed.  The shifts are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so smooth I
> can't feel the second one.   It feels like it might be starting in second
> and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at
> all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, at lunch I will try again to see if I
> can determine where the shifts occur.
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 A little (like a gallon) veggie oil or biodiesel in the tank will make the 
engine noticably quieter. Somebody told me the reason once but I've forgotten. 

-Curt

On Friday, October 4, 2019, 12:19:39 PM EDT, Don Snook via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said quickly 
like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in the third 
person.  The reason for the possible name is


1.      It is funny

2.      I lived in Kansas for 17 years

3.      The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I could 
call it Chiquita)

Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent 
(Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.  I did a diesel purge.  
Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo bolt and 
cleaned it out.  I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt was bigger.  It 
was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was clogged up black thick 
stuff.  I did the oil cap blow by test.  The cap danced a little.  But, not 
much.  I was watching a video from Kent where he proposes an old diesel 
cleanse.  He takes vegetable oil and adds a little liquid moly oil supplement 
and runs the car from an external tank and uses the whole gallon of vegetable 
oil.  It did seem to improve the smoothness and he claimed it could help with 
blowby.  I'm sure it can't hurt.  I am going to try it later.

BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG difference.  
Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot faster.  I think the 
vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be addressed.  The shifts 
are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so smooth I can't feel the second one.  
It feels like it might be starting in second and then it shifts pretty early 
and then I don't feel the next shift at all.  I drove it to work today.  SO, at 
lunch I will try again to see if I can determine where the shifts occur.

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Attaboy

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said
> quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in the
> third person.   The reason for the possible name is
>
>
> 1.   It is funny
>
> 2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years
>
> 3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I
> could call it Chiquita)
>
> Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent
> (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel
> purge.  Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo
> bolt and cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt
> was bigger.  It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was
> clogged up black thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The cap
> danced a little.  But, not much.   I was watching a video from Kent where
> he proposes an old diesel cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a
> little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an external tank
> and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil.   It did seem to improve the
> smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby.  I'm sure it can't
> hurt.  I am going to try it later.
>
> BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG
> difference.  Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot faster.
>  I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be
> addressed.  The shifts are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so smooth I
> can't feel the second one.   It feels like it might be starting in second
> and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at
> all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, at lunch I will try again to see if I
> can determine where the shifts occur.
>
> Donald H. Snook
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[MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123

[Don Snook via Mercedes]

I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole"  It has to be said quickly 
like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in the third 
person.   The reason for the possible name is


1.   It is funny

2.   I lived in Kansas for 17 years

3.   The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana.  ( I suppose I could 
call it Chiquita)

Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent 
(Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night.   I did a diesel purge.  
Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo bolt and 
cleaned it out.   I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt was bigger.  
It was definitely dirty.  The little hole in the bolt was clogged up black 
thick stuff.   I did the oil cap blow by test.  The cap danced a little.  But, 
not much.   I was watching a video from Kent where he proposes an old diesel 
cleanse.   He takes vegetable oil and adds a little liquid moly oil supplement 
and runs the car from an external tank and uses the whole gallon of vegetable 
oil.   It did seem to improve the smoothness and he claimed it could help with 
blowby.  I'm sure it can't hurt.  I am going to try it later.

BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG difference.  
Yes, it is still a slow diesel.  But, it seemed a lot faster.   I think the 
vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be addressed.  The shifts 
are very smooth.  In fact, they may be so smooth I can't feel the second one.   
It feels like it might be starting in second and then it shifts pretty early 
and then I don't feel the next shift at all.   I drove it to work today.  SO, 
at lunch I will try again to see if I can determine where the shifts occur.

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Update

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Your wife is likely more relieved than you are!
RB


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 Date: 2019-01-13  6:12 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curt Raymond  
Subject: [MBZ] Update 
Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which is 
the best news of the year.

Curt

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[OK Don via Mercedes]

I guess you don't need to change all your fuses right now . . .
Thanks for the good news, we've been thinking about you.

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> Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which
> is the best news of the year.
>
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Great news take care.  Let us know if we can help.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 13, 2019 7:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
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> Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which
> is the best news of the year.
>
> Curt
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That is wonderful news!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

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> On Jan 13, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yay!
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> 
>> On January 13, 2019 7:12:23 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> which is the best news of the year.
>> 
>> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Huzzah!!

-D


> On January 13, 2019 7:12:23 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle
>> which is the best news of the year.
>> 
>> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yay!
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On January 13, 2019 7:12:23 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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>Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle
>which is the best news of the year.
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>Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Happy you are home.
Glad you got a good report.


Rick

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Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which is 
the best news of the year.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That new is worth a double YaaaHoo!    No damage is terrific 
news!    And a Waytago! for the docs and staff.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 1/13/19 6:12 PM:

Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which is 
the best news of the year.

Curt





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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 13, 2019 at 7:12 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which is 
> the best news of the year.

Glad to hear it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Update

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is great news.

On 1/13/2019 6:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which is 
the best news of the year.

Curt

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[MBZ] Update

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Went home tonight, Dr said no appreciable damage to the heart muscle which is 
the best news of the year.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> A balance is maintained until either the space expands/declines or SWMBA 
> tosses in the towel.

Or the dagger!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The corollary is that SWMBA will work twice as diligently to keep space from 
becoming filled as the space fills.  A balance is maintained until either the 
space expands/declines or SWMBA tosses in the towel.


clay monroe
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> On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is Dan’s Law.
> 
> Dan’s Law states that:
> 
> “The amount of stuff you accumulate will always expand to exceed the 
> available space.”
> 
> I have yet to prove it wrong, sort of.  There should be some sort of time 
> constant in there, too.  When I had a nearly 4,000 SF house I was rapidly 
> approaching the point of excess, but that was only after living there for two 
> years.  Had I been there longer I truly believe that I would have exceeded 
> the available storage space there, too….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My good wife says that if I had a bigger garage, basement etc, I would just 
>> fill it with more worthless junk.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I have understood the theory of nature abhorring vacuums.

Which is largely, IMHO, where an interest in political office seems to come 
from.  Based upon my observations, anyhow.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I have understood the theory of nature abhorring vacuums.  I sold off my former 
Benz parts collection  a few years ago.  That made all manner of space.  Which 
has been filled to the gills with more benz parts.   Stuff I have no idea I had 
at hand.  I have spent the past few weeks going through these new finds and 
attempting to get them adopted out to people who will actually use them.  Where 
did that set of M117 exhaust manifolds come from?  And the w201 stuff?  I never 
had one.. how did that make a home here?

clay monroe
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> On Nov 29, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 29/11/2018 2:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> Mostly, we all need a Kleb size shop.   AFIK, only kleb has one, among list 
>> members.   Grant is working on one hanger size shop. OK Don has a hanger, 
>> but it is mostly for airplanes and woodworking, not old MBs. 
> 
> 
> My good wife says that if I had a bigger garage, basement etc, I would just 
> fill it with more worthless junk.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Yes, that is the plan. 
Thanks. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 29, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd try calling around to independent shops and auto machine shops.  Somebody 
> will have the boot expander and be willing to reboot your axles.   I don't 
> know if things have changed, but the "reman" and asian axles did not have a 
> good reputation a few years ago.  My 240D is running on axles that were 
> rebuilt locally about 18 years ago.  I think that was a cleanup, regrease and 
> reboot.   Most axles die from dirt due to cracked boots, not wear.   I don't 
> think there is any argument with the fact that factory axles are the best for 
> longevity.
> 
> 
> 
>> Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>> November 28, 2018 at 3:47 PM
>> Pulled out of the garage and had almost zero brakes. Pulled back in and 
>> filled empty brake reservoir. Gravity bled all. Passenger side rear would 
>> not flow. Pulled the flex line and it is swollen shut. Ordered hoses for 
>> both rear brakes. Probably should get the fronts as well.
>> Underside is clean with no sign of rust anywhere. Front suspension 
>> components and steering are all tight.
>> Axle boots are cracking and one is leaking. Is it best to just replace the 
>> axles or can one replace the boots at home. I have all the boot parts but 
>> not the knowledge or “special tool”.
>> 
>> Test drive tomorrow.
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

He is all over fakebook with all of his liberal crap.

On 11/29/2018 4:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Was that before or after SammichMan had a Seder with Dr. Fatty’s daughter?

SammichMan has sort of dropped off the face of the Earth unless you say 
something disparaging on Banned, then he pops up.

-D



On Nov 29, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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On November 29, 2018 at 4:37 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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True.  I think yours is mostly filled with truck, and not so much a shop
for reviving MBs.

Whatever happened to Warehouse de Sammich?
Sammichman bought it, then we never really heard much about it after that.
I think it was about half the size of the place Craig has.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] update #2 MBZ] Bought this yesterday.

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This is true.  I bet I could get a 100k sqft warehouse filled with crap 
before long.


On 11/29/2018 3:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This is Dan’s Law.

Dan’s Law states that:

“The amount of stuff you accumulate will always expand to exceed the available 
space.”

I have yet to prove it wrong, sort of.  There should be some sort of time 
constant in there, too.  When I had a nearly 4,000 SF house I was rapidly 
approaching the point of excess, but that was only after living there for two 
years.  Had I been there longer I truly believe that I would have exceeded the 
available storage space there, too….

-D






On Nov 29, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
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My good wife says that if I had a bigger garage, basement etc, I would just 
fill it with more worthless junk.

RB



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