Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
LarryT wrote: Howdy - Since my Topsider has a hose problem I thought I'd build one this time and ran across this Air Vacuum Pump at Harbor Freight Tools for $8.50 (pn 96677-2AYE) -- the Key on the catalog is AY9556. Those things can pull a pretty good vacuum. Not really good enough for air conditioning work, but stronger than a shop vac I'm sure. The question is whether they pull enough volume to cause trouble. The shop vac pulls way too much volume for an oil sucker, this one probably can't build up excess volume through an open hose hooked up to the engine if you take off the oil fill cap on the engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
Thx Mitch - Actually I failed to mention the pump is supposed to work with ACs - altho I suspect it would be marginal at best - but I understand your concern that it may pull too much vacuum and collapse my vacuum container. I might be able to re-use my topsider if I can find the right sized hose - seems like I need 5/8 OD and 3/8 ID - will have to see if that's a standard hose size. SOmeone bought hose for a $2 pump at ACE so I'll check there 1st. Thx agn - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker LarryT wrote: Howdy - Since my Topsider has a hose problem I thought I'd build one this time and ran across this Air Vacuum Pump at Harbor Freight Tools for $8.50 (pn 96677-2AYE) -- the Key on the catalog is AY9556. Those things can pull a pretty good vacuum. Not really good enough for air conditioning work, but stronger than a shop vac I'm sure. The question is whether they pull enough volume to cause trouble. The shop vac pulls way too much volume for an oil sucker, this one probably can't build up excess volume through an open hose hooked up to the engine if you take off the oil fill cap on the engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
LarryT wrote: Thx Mitch - Actually I failed to mention the pump is supposed to work with ACs - altho I suspect it would be marginal at best - but I understand your concern that it may pull too much vacuum and collapse my vacuum container. You need a restriction to pull bucket bending vacuum. I'm not sure if a 3/8 hose full of hot thin oil is enough restriction or not, those venturi gizmos are a lot lower volume than a shop vac, but higher volume than a mechanical A/C pump. What I've been thinking of doing is get a 1/2 or 9/16 hose barb union fitting, wrapping friction tape around one end of it until it's a tight fit in the dipstick tube, and then running 1/2 or 9/16 hose to the bucket. Lots less restriction than 3/8 hose. Can probably do it with nylon mesh reinforced vinyl hose, or a chunk of old garden hose. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
I just had a wonderful thought about using the venturi vac pump: My air compressor has a regulated output. All I have to do it dial down the air pressure to set the vacuum wherever I want it. And the $8 vac pump is lightweight, compact, and I can probably find a way to mount it to the lid of my plastic hydraulic oil bucket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
Y'all are really overthinking the $2 sucker -- just use a shop vac (even my little portable works well). --R Mitch Haley wrote: I just had a wonderful thought about using the venturi vac pump: My air compressor has a regulated output. All I have to do it dial down the air pressure to set the vacuum wherever I want it. And the $8 vac pump is lightweight, compact, and I can probably find a way to mount it to the lid of my plastic hydraulic oil bucket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
Vacuum and Volume do not belong in the same sentence. How can you have an amount of nothing? Max vacuum is 1 atmosphere, period dot. after 32 it come only with sophisticated equipment. The reason you draw a vacuum in an A/C unit is to get rid the the water. You can not pull a deep vacuum if water is present, the water has to evaporate. Vacuum capacity would be the volume you can pull a required vacuum to over a stated period of time. Pete -- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] LarryT wrote: Howdy - Since my Topsider has a hose problem I thought I'd build one this time and ran across this Air Vacuum Pump at Harbor Freight Tools for $8.50 (pn 96677-2AYE) -- the Key on the catalog is AY9556. Those things can pull a pretty good vacuum. Not really good enough for air conditioning work, but stronger than a shop vac I'm sure. The question is whether they pull enough volume to cause trouble. The shop vac pulls way too much volume for an oil sucker, this one probably can't build up excess volume through an open hose hooked up to the engine if you take off the oil fill cap on the engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
you;re probably right - I'll try the shop vac before I do anything else. I have some hose that's a little on the small size - wrapping it with tape may allow it to work. Now I need to find one of the gas cans I have and modify it to attach the oil hose and the vacuum hose.. Thanks -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker Y'all are really overthinking the $2 sucker -- just use a shop vac (even my little portable works well). --R Mitch Haley wrote: I just had a wonderful thought about using the venturi vac pump: My air compressor has a regulated output. All I have to do it dial down the air pressure to set the vacuum wherever I want it. And the $8 vac pump is lightweight, compact, and I can probably find a way to mount it to the lid of my plastic hydraulic oil bucket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
I just used a regular plastic gas can, maybe 2 gal. The small vac hose end fits tightly in the pour hole. THe sucker hose barb fit nicely in the vent hole. I used the rigid poly tubing (3/8?) for the sucker end, it slides down the dipstick tube (though others report using a larger hose that just fits in the top of the dipstick tube). I like the smaller hose because it does not collapse as easily and it can get into tighter spots like the PS reservoir, brake reservoir, 700R4 tranny dipstick tube, etc. The can collapses but that does not affect functionality. --R LarryT wrote: you;re probably right - I'll try the shop vac before I do anything else. I have some hose that's a little on the small size - wrapping it with tape may allow it to work. Now I need to find one of the gas cans I have and modify it to attach the oil hose and the vacuum hose.. Thanks -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker Y'all are really overthinking the $2 sucker -- just use a shop vac (even my little portable works well). --R Mitch Haley wrote: I just had a wonderful thought about using the venturi vac pump: My air compressor has a regulated output. All I have to do it dial down the air pressure to set the vacuum wherever I want it. And the $8 vac pump is lightweight, compact, and I can probably find a way to mount it to the lid of my plastic hydraulic oil bucket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
I originally bought a topsider because I didn't have any outside electricity at the apartment complex. Once we bought the house I started using the shop vac as its quicker. Recently I went back to using the manual pump on the topsider. Why? Its quiet... I find changing the oil with the topsider quite relaxing. I would bet dollars to donuts the topsider hose is the same diameter as snowmobile/motorcycle/dirtbike/ATV fuel line. I've got both in the garage maybe I'll go see... I did and it is. The standard clear 1/4 fuel line is thin so the OD is a little smaller. The blue type is thicker so the OD appears to be the same or maybe slightly smaller but the difference is really small. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:55:05 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original you;re probably right - I'll try the shop vac before I do anything else. I have some hose that's a little on the small size - wrapping it with tape may allow it to work. Now I need to find one of the gas cans I have and modify it to attach the oil hose and the vacuum hose.. Thanks -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vacuum pump for oil sucker
If the oil sucker pump pulls too much vacuum, reduce it with an additional opening in the vac hose - not the oil evac tube - the vac hose from pump/vac to the oil receiver tank. BTW, 5/8 x 3/8 is a standard hose. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump for oil sucker
Wilton Strickland wrote: If the oil sucker pump pulls too much vacuum, reduce it with an additional opening in the vac hose - not the oil evac tube - the vac hose from pump/vac to the oil receiver tank. I've decided to build mine with a scrap of standard 1/2 ID x 5/8 OD copper house plumbing pipe, and use 5/8 hose to the oil collector. I just checked a few minutes ago, and the 1/2 copper is a snug slip fit in both my 190D and my 190e. I assume my 300SD is the same size. More flow capacity in the oil tubing will lead to less pressure differential and quicker evacuation of the crankcase. I'm hoping that will eliminate any tendency to collapse the collection container. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump for oil sucker
The container collapse is your visual cue that all is well in the vacuum world. I have mine finely calibrated so I know precisely how much vac it is pulling. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Wilton Strickland wrote: If the oil sucker pump pulls too much vacuum, reduce it with an additional opening in the vac hose - not the oil evac tube - the vac hose from pump/vac to the oil receiver tank. I've decided to build mine with a scrap of standard 1/2 ID x 5/8 OD copper house plumbing pipe, and use 5/8 hose to the oil collector. I just checked a few minutes ago, and the 1/2 copper is a snug slip fit in both my 190D and my 190e. I assume my 300SD is the same size. More flow capacity in the oil tubing will lead to less pressure differential and quicker evacuation of the crankcase. I'm hoping that will eliminate any tendency to collapse the collection container. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
I use one and have no issues. The only time I have issues is when I apply more than 5psi or so to the ex-helium tank to help push the contents back out. It can create quite the mess VERY quickly... Luther On Thu, 08 May 2008 05:56:59 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: Howdy - Since my Topsider has a hose problem I thought I'd build one this time and ran across this Air Vacuum Pump at Harbor Freight Tools for $8.50 (pn 96677-2AYE) -- the Key on the catalog is AY9556. Those things can pull a pretty good vacuum. Not really good enough for air conditioning work, but stronger than a shop vac I'm sure. The question is whether they pull enough volume to cause trouble. The shop vac pulls way too much volume for an oil sucker, this one probably can't build up excess volume through an open hose hooked up to the engine if you take off the oil fill cap on the engine. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vacuum Pump for Oil Sucker
Howdy - Since my Topsider has a hose problem I thought I'd build one this time and ran across this Air Vacuum Pump at Harbor Freight Tools for $8.50 (pn 96677-2AYE) -- the Key on the catalog is AY9556. Seems like it'd be easy to get the hose (5/8 OD - 3/8 ID) and a gas tank - then hook the pump to one connection and run the hose into the other and the dipstick tube. Might make life a little easier -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
