Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Doubt it.

CarFax maintenance records are spotty, at best, because they rely on service 
providers to self report. I would want to see the owner’s service records and a 
VMI. If a new engine was installed in 2000, it was likely done by a dealer 
under a warranty or recall campaign, as the car would only have been a year old 
at that time.

Salvage (branded) title immediately kills the value. Paint looks like it might 
be a little sketchy, too.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Carfax report should reveal this, unless he did his own maintenance/repairs.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:31 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> 
>> I wonder what work it has had done along the way to that number?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/04/2023 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
 Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.
 
 -D
 
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 That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Carfax report should reveal this, unless he did his own maintenance/repairs.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:31 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder what work it has had done along the way to that number?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 25/04/2023 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > 409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
> >> Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> On Apr 25, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I wonder what work it has had done along the way to that number?

Randy


On 25/04/2023 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.

-D

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
> Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.
>
> -D
>
> On Apr 25, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/
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[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the Corolla/Camry of 
Mercedes.

-D

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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/

AZBob

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[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] Wagon? Anyone?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Has the start of the special AZ paint job. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1399185750571163/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] Wagon -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class Desingo,$4,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The rare Desingo option

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/851693462486779

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[MBZ] Wagon version of one of the true Mercedes. 2001 Mercedes Benz E320 Wagon - $3, 995 (Hilton Head Island)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks very clean, does not appear to be 4m

https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/cto/d/hilton-head-island-2001-mercedes-benz/7431200819.html

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Not too dire, just replace it or the axle with one from a junker or a 
new one.  Can't be that hard.  I'd be all over that if it was nearby but 
being in vermint one would have to look out for rust.


--FT

On 6/8/21 4:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Broke the inner CV.  How dire is that?

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://vermont.craigslist.org/pts/d/northfield-falls-2004-mercedes-e320/773205.html

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

brake dust taht was never cleaned off

--FT

On 6/8/21 4:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Wonder what's going on with the bronze colored front wheels.

Looks cosmetically OK otherwise. How hard to put in a new CV or axle?

Allan


Frederick Moir via Mercedes  writes:


https://vermont.craigslist.org/pts/d/northfield-falls-2004-mercedes-e320/773205.html

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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Wonder what's going on with the bronze colored front wheels.

Looks cosmetically OK otherwise. How hard to put in a new CV or axle?

Allan


Frederick Moir via Mercedes  writes:

> https://vermont.craigslist.org/pts/d/northfield-falls-2004-mercedes-e320/773205.html
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Broke the inner CV.  How dire is that?

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>
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[MBZ] Wagon

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

https://vermont.craigslist.org/pts/d/northfield-falls-2004-mercedes-e320/773205.html

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

He knows what he got

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> On Mar 22, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> More likely, he hopes to find a buyer who doesn't know what you folks know 
> and get more than the car is worth.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
>> On 20/03/2021 12:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the 
>> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood it 
>> was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact some car 
>> for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.  He thanked me 
>> and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with the car in the same 
>> condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a coupla weeks ago.
>> 
>> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>> 
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

More likely, he hopes to find a buyer who doesn't know what you folks 
know and get more than the car is worth.


RB


On 20/03/2021 12:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in 
the driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it 
stood it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the 
exact some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer 
miles.  He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few 
days with the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from 
$3500 a coupla weeks ago.


He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or 
both.


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The Bluetec sedans and SUVs (esp. 2014 and newer) go fast too if they are
priced sanely.

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> I saw a 190D that looked somewhat decent pop up today for $1000. Said it
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> Shortly after I see the same car listed by another seller for $2000.
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> >  Facebook search sucks. I search for backhoe and they show me all sorts
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> > -Curt
> >
> >On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 2:02:09 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
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> >
> > And now FB limits photos drastically, which dilutes its usefulness.
> >
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> >>> There is no cost to list it.
> >>
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> >> destroyed
> >> the density of listings here, and pushed things to Facebook.  Mostly
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I saw a 190D that looked somewhat decent pop up today for $1000. Said it was 
listed over a week ago. A few hours later I notice it is marked sold. Shortly 
after I see the same car listed by another seller for $2000. 

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>  Facebook search sucks. I search for backhoe and they show me all sorts of 
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> -Curt
> 
>On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 2:02:09 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> And now FB limits photos drastically, which dilutes its usefulness.
> 
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> 
>>> There is no cost to list it.
>> 
>> Not true.  Craigslist now charges to list cars.  Monthly, I think.  It
>> destroyed
>> the density of listings here, and pushed things to Facebook.  Mostly what's
>> on CL now is expensive vehicles.  And dealers.  (Same thing?)
>> 
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Well take the bikini then.

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>
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>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > > There is no cost to list it.
> >
> > Not true.  Craigslist now charges to list cars.  Monthly, I think.  It
> > destroyed
> > the density of listings here, and pushed things to Facebook.  Mostly
> what's
> > on CL now is expensive vehicles.  And dealers.  (Same thing?)
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garden tractors and trucks and girls in bikinis...
-Curt

On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 2:02:09 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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 And now FB limits photos drastically, which dilutes its usefulness.

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> > There is no cost to list it.
>
> Not true.  Craigslist now charges to list cars.  Monthly, I think.  It
> destroyed
> the density of listings here, and pushed things to Facebook.  Mostly what's
> on CL now is expensive vehicles.  And dealers.  (Same thing?)
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60 bucks a year. Time is still on his side.

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> $5.00 to list it for 30 days with something like 6 pictures. CL hasn’t
> been been free for listing cars for a year or two.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 21, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is no cost to list it. If he has no need to sell it, why not wait
> for
> > the one fool? He would be a fool not to. Time is on his side. See this on
> > ebay all the time.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 8:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's back again this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7294678499.html
> >>
> >> On 3/20/21 9:30 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Bingo.  A fool and his money...
> >>>
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mar 20, 2021 2:09:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >>>
>  Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
> 
>  On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in
> the
> > driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it
> stood
> > it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the
> exact
> > some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer
> miles.
> > He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
> > the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
> > coupla weeks ago.
> >
> > He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or
> >> both.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
> > condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect
> from
> > reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and
> >> (possibly)
> > justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
> >> They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round
> they’ve
> > done on CL) and get no takers.
> >> Some people just don’t get it.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> A little pricey.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

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$5.00 to list it for 30 days with something like 6 pictures. CL hasn’t been 
been free for listing cars for a year or two.

-D

> On Mar 21, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is no cost to list it. If he has no need to sell it, why not wait for
> the one fool? He would be a fool not to. Time is on his side. See this on
> ebay all the time.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 8:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It's back again this morning
>> 
>> 
>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7294678499.html
>> 
>> On 3/20/21 9:30 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Bingo.  A fool and his money...
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mar 20, 2021 2:09:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>>> 
 Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
 
 On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
> coupla weeks ago.
> 
> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or
>> both.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and
>> (possibly)
> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
>> They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
> done on CL) and get no takers.
>> Some people just don’t get it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> A little pricey.
>>> 
>>> 
> 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And now FB limits photos drastically, which dilutes its usefulness.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 1:45 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > There is no cost to list it.
>
> Not true.  Craigslist now charges to list cars.  Monthly, I think.  It
> destroyed
> the density of listings here, and pushed things to Facebook.  Mostly what's
> on CL now is expensive vehicles.  And dealers.  (Same thing?)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> There is no cost to list it.

Not true.  Craigslist now charges to list cars.  Monthly, I think.  It destroyed
the density of listings here, and pushed things to Facebook.  Mostly what's
on CL now is expensive vehicles.  And dealers.  (Same thing?)

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

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There is no cost to list it. If he has no need to sell it, why not wait for
the one fool? He would be a fool not to. Time is on his side. See this on
ebay all the time.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 8:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's back again this morning
>
>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7294678499.html
>
> On 3/20/21 9:30 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Bingo.  A fool and his money...
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > Mar 20, 2021 2:09:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
> >>> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
> >>> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
> >>> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
> >>> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
> >>> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
> >>> coupla weeks ago.
> >>>
> >>> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or
> both.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
> >>> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
> >>> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and
> (possibly)
> >>> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
>  They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
> >>> done on CL) and get no takers.
>  Some people just don’t get it.
> 
>  -D
> 
> 
> > On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > A little pricey.
> >
> >
> >>>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's back again this morning

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7294678499.html

On 3/20/21 9:30 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Bingo.  A fool and his money...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 20, 2021 2:09:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes :


Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
coupla weeks ago.

He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.

--FT

On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s

condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.

They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve

done on CL) and get no takers.

Some people just don’t get it.

-D



On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

A little pricey.



https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html


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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bingo.  A fool and his money...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 20, 2021 2:09:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes :

> Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
>> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
>> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
>> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
>> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
>> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
>> coupla weeks ago.
>> 
>> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
>> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
>> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
>> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
>>> 
>>> They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
>> done on CL) and get no takers.
>>> 
>>> Some people just don’t get it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 A little pricey.
 
 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

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It’s going to be a while. He’s on his second 30 days of Craigslist, at least.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
>> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
>> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
>> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
>> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
>> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
>> coupla weeks ago.
>> 
>> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
>> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
>> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
>> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
>>> 
>>> They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
>> done on CL) and get no takers.
>>> 
>>> Some people just don’t get it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 A little pricey.
 
 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
 
 
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Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
> coupla weeks ago.
>
> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>
> --FT
>
> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
> >
> > They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
> done on CL) and get no takers.
> >
> > Some people just don’t get it.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> A little pricey.
> >>
> >>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the 
driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood 
it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact 
some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.  
He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with 
the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a 
coupla weeks ago.


He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.

--FT

On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s condition 
and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from reality. The 
seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly) justify the ask, 
but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.

They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve done on 
CL) and get no takers.

Some people just don’t get it.

-D



On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

A little pricey.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html


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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s condition 
and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from reality. The 
seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly) justify the ask, 
but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.

They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve done on 
CL) and get no takers.

Some people just don’t get it.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A little pricey.
> 
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
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[MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

A little pricey.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html


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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 That's "Patina" people pay extra for that.
Actually its kind of a nice car, reminds me a bit of my first MB except mine 
was an utter disaster...
-Curt

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 11:24:39 AM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Well, if you looked at the photos, you would easily see that the paint 
is bad and the interior is rough. At the moment, it is a beater at 
best,  assuming it runs OK.

RB

On 14/12/2020 7:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Wonder what makes it a "project".
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/403232907396079/
>>
>>


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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, if you looked at the photos, you would easily see that the paint 
is bad and the interior is rough. At the moment, it is a beater at 
best,  assuming it runs OK.


RB

On 14/12/2020 7:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Wonder what makes it a "project".

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/403232907396079/





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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wonder what makes it a "project".

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[MBZ] Wagon

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/403232907396079/


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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ll buy it and add my buyer’s premium onto the top. Or if it’s decent I’ll buy 
it and sell you my 98 wagon.

-D


> On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If Poos does not want it, I might.
> 
> On 12/8/2018 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> Actually, I was almost going to have you check it out for me. Almost. Other 
>> priorities, but perhaps after the of the year, if you don't mind. I'm done 
>> with driving rust belt cars.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: December 8, 2018 6:11 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, that can be a problem at times…..
>> 
>> Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and 
>> has 4Matic.  If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in 
>> serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly 
>> unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I 
>> currently drive and selling it.
>> 
>> I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up.  I’ve got $1,000 in 
>> cash I can take with me…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nice, 4Matic, too.  Might have to go look at this…
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If Poos does not want it, I might.

On 12/8/2018 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Actually, I was almost going to have you check it out for me. Almost. Other 
priorities, but perhaps after the of the year, if you don't mind. I'm done with 
driving rust belt cars.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone


Yes, that can be a problem at times…..

Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and has 
4Matic.  If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in 
serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly unlikely 
given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I currently 
drive and selling it.

I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up.  I’ve got $1,000 in 
cash I can take with me…

-D




On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads


Rick

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Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone


Nice, 4Matic, too.  Might have to go look at this…

-D



On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html

Rick



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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Actually, I was almost going to have you check it out for me. Almost. Other 
priorities, but perhaps after the of the year, if you don't mind. I'm done with 
driving rust belt cars.


Rick

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Yes, that can be a problem at times…..

Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and has 
4Matic.  If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in 
serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly unlikely 
given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I currently 
drive and selling it.

I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up.  I’ve got $1,000 in 
cash I can take with me…

-D



> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
>
>
> Nice, 4Matic, too.  Might have to go look at this…
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html
>>
>> Rick
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 19:10:56 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yes, that can be a problem at times…..
> 
> Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model
> and has 4Matic.  If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or
> somehow in serious need of something other than what the owner
> describes (highly unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see
> swapping it out for the one I currently drive and selling it.
> 
> I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up.  I’ve got
> $1,000 in cash I can take with me…

We could use a 4Matic in western North Carolina (which is supposed to get
around a foot of snow this weekend).


Craig

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, that can be a problem at times…..

Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and has 
4Matic.  If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in 
serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly unlikely 
given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I currently 
drive and selling it.

I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up.  I’ve got $1,000 in 
cash I can take with me…

-D



> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
> 
> 
> Nice, 4Matic, too.  Might have to go look at this…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads


Rick

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Nice, 4Matic, too.  Might have to go look at this…

-D


> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That looks like a good deal

On 12/8/2018 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nice, 4Matic, too.  Might have to go look at this…

-D


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> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel -- new pickins

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

"Gotta dump it. Gemeindefrau sez it will quit or kill us if we drive it 
over 200k miles."


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 12/5/18 8:28 AM:

A little high but doesn't look bad

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/01-mercedes-wagon/6758490073.html

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel -- new pickins

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A little high but doesn't look bad

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/01-mercedes-wagon/6758490073.html

--FT


On 12/2/18 1:50 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

Finally am in (somewhat limited) funds,  and I'm in the market for
something like this:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/181537042756723

Anyone?  Bueller?   Bueller?  K'leb?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Reverse goes out.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 3:12 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

> It’s 4 matic that does not have the issue
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 2, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t think the wagons suffered from the spring perch issue.  Or maybe
> it was just the 4Matic wagons, I’m not sure.  Someone please correct me if
> I’m wrong, but I never encountered it when I was looking for one.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Spring perch season (if it's 2wd)?
> >> The other common maladies (transmission electronics, climate control
> confusion, dead display on climate control or radio) are mostly easy swaps.
> >>
> >> Mitch.
> >>
> >>> On December 2, 2018 at 4:26 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What's the biggest red flag with these gas engine wagons? What's the
> worst
> >>> case scenario for one of these cars that currently drives okay and has
> no
> >>> obvious issues?
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel

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It’s 4 matic that does not have the issue 

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> 
> I don’t think the wagons suffered from the spring perch issue.  Or maybe it 
> was just the 4Matic wagons, I’m not sure.  Someone please correct me if I’m 
> wrong, but I never encountered it when I was looking for one.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Spring perch season (if it's 2wd)?
>> The other common maladies (transmission electronics, climate control 
>> confusion, dead display on climate control or radio) are mostly easy swaps.
>> 
>> Mitch. 
>> 
>>> On December 2, 2018 at 4:26 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What's the biggest red flag with these gas engine wagons? What's the worst
>>> case scenario for one of these cars that currently drives okay and has no
>>> obvious issues?
>>> 
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I don’t think the wagons suffered from the spring perch issue.  Or maybe it was 
just the 4Matic wagons, I’m not sure.  Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, 
but I never encountered it when I was looking for one.

-D


> On Dec 2, 2018, at 5:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> Spring perch season (if it's 2wd)?
> The other common maladies (transmission electronics, climate control 
> confusion, dead display on climate control or radio) are mostly easy swaps.
> 
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On December 2, 2018 at 4:26 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What's the biggest red flag with these gas engine wagons? What's the worst
>> case scenario for one of these cars that currently drives okay and has no
>> obvious issues?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel

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Spring perch season (if it's 2wd)?
The other common maladies (transmission electronics, climate control confusion, 
dead display on climate control or radio) are mostly easy swaps.

Mitch. 

> On December 2, 2018 at 4:26 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> What's the biggest red flag with these gas engine wagons? What's the worst
> case scenario for one of these cars that currently drives okay and has no
> obvious issues?
>

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel

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What's the biggest red flag with these gas engine wagons? What's the worst
case scenario for one of these cars that currently drives okay and has no
obvious issues?

On Dec 2, 2018 3:53 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:42 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/99-e320-wagon/6750639280.html
>
> Same car on fakebook
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/499253967230458/
>

Pretty much the sort of thing I have in mind.  Thanks!
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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/99-e320-wagon/6750639280.html
>
> Same car on fakebook
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/499253967230458/
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Pretty much the sort of thing I have in mind.  Thanks!
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Wanted-Will Travel

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/01-mercedes-wagon/6758490073.html

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/99-e320-wagon/6750639280.html

Same car on fakebook 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/499253967230458/

--R
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> Finally am in (somewhat limited) funds,  and I'm in the market for
> something like this:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/181537042756723
> 
> Anyone?  Bueller?   Bueller?  K'leb?
> 
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[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Finally am in (somewhat limited) funds,  and I'm in the market for
something like this:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/181537042756723

Anyone?  Bueller?   Bueller?  K'leb?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

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On 12/12/2017 7:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

"Can run veggie oil with no modifications"What buggery has been done to that 
poor car due to ignorance?

-Curt
  

  


Well, he did say "can". He wants to sell it and does not care if some 
fool buys it.


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"Can run veggie oil with no modifications"What buggery has been done to that 
poor car due to ignorance?

-Curt
 

On Monday, December 11, 2017, 9:28:48 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On the surface,sounds,good.
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!
>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-
> turbo-diesel/6421240936.html
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

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Love the wheels.  Could bake a cake in 'em.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

> > Buggered wrote:
>
> > ANDREW!!! Needs that!!!
>
> He won't want it.  It's one of the better  pre-1985 models and he
> prefers the cluttered '85s.
>
> I'd like it.  I don't think I can afford $4k right now.  It is
> close enough, though...
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> Buggered wrote:

> ANDREW!!! Needs that!!!

He won't want it.  It's one of the better  pre-1985 models and he
prefers the cluttered '85s.

I'd like it.  I don't think I can afford $4k right now.  It is
close enough, though...

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ANDREW!!! Needs that!!!

--R
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> AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!
> 
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-turbo-diesel/6421240936.html
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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

On the surface,sounds,good.
Dwight

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> AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!
>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-
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AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-turbo-diesel/6421240936.html


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Should be priced at $400 obo.

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> 1985 Mercedes-Benz
>
> https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-benz-300-td/
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1985 Mercedes-Benz

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Looks pretty nice

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> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-WAGON-/122464838133?hash=item1c837921f5:g:~TgAAOSwWWxZAAss=mtr
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/122464838133-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]
> 
> 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300-Series WAGON | 
> eBay
> www.ebay.com
> 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300-Series WAGON | eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, 
> Mercedes-Benz | eBay!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

A bit older than I'd like, but a good candidate and not too far away.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-
> WAGON-/122464838133?hash=item1c837921f5:g:~TgAAOSwWWxZAAss=mtr
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/122464838133-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-
> WAGON-/122464838133?hash=item1c837921f5:g:~TgAAOSwWWxZAAss=mtr>
>
> 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300-Series WAGON | eBay 1992-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-WAGON-/122464838133?hash=item1c837921f5:g:~
> TgAAOSwWWxZAAss=mtr>
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> Mercedes-Benz | eBay!
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>
>
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[http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/122464838133-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]

1992 Mercedes-Benz 300-Series WAGON | 
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> On September 10, 2015 at 11:14 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and thereby
> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.

https://youtu.be/mHnkt_xzEeA?t=1m13s

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[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes I am thinking om606 in w124. I stopped learning about mercedes wagons
after the 1987 model year. If you tell me 1995 wagon is a better body, I
will believe you, but when did anyone do a 606 swap on one of those? What
number is that? w201 or 202?

If people are paying 14k for cars like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-/351426194895?rmvSB=true=true=JZXcunjQNT8cx6LAFr%252BUHAFP8KQ%253D_cvip=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

then I am in good shape. My car is better than that. Flaring 1st? Puh-leez!
Try a sledgehammer shift into 2nd and tight in every other gear. Revs to
5500, though I am usually not looking at the tach at that point, waiting
for the shift to 2nd...

15k for this one not far from me, and it looks like SLS is messed up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261970523668?rmvSB=true

I guess the carpet pays for itself. I will say that the loop carpet in that
picture looks nothing like what came with my car from the factory, but oh
well. I will put a call in to the Armenians in the valley at GAHH or
whatever it is called.

Thanks for the feedback.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The point being is that it will be mostly MB people who know the car well
> and will often pick nits. I don't expect you'll get top dollar there for
> just that reason, unless the car is really outstanding.
>
> If you want to get top dollar, I would say go to eBay.  People pay stupid
> money for stuff there, and you've also got the "I'm going to beat you even
> though I'm paying far more than it's worth" mentality, too.
>
> Of course, you can always try Craigslist if you want the lowballers, can
> you finance it for me, and the no-shows.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The last thing I need is a "discerning buyer"...
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> But does the AC BLOW ICE COLD and does it get 40mpg on FREE VEG OIL???
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 9/11/15 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully...
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> $10k
> 
>  $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.
> 
>  Dan
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>  On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
> > near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working
> A/C,
>  and
> 
> > roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should
> be an
> > interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a
>  reserve
> 
> > price...
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Karl,
> >>
> >> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
> >>
> >> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are
> > somewhat
> 
> > rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally
> sold
> > for
> 
> > less than 123 wagons.
> >>
> >> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
> >> --
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '95 E300
> >>
> >> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
> >>> thereby
> >>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with
> a
> >>> new
> >>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything
> >>> but
> >>> the
> >>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
> >>> car;
> >>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
> >>> since
> >>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
> >>> back
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

What is the drivetrain from?

No reserve is the way to get people fired up. I sold a rather rusty but
mechanically solid 1963 190dc sedan for almost 3K that way. Just let 'er
rip.

K

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
> near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C, and
> roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
> interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a reserve
> price...
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Karl,
> >
> > Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
> >
> > Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are
> somewhat
> > rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold
> for
> > less than 123 wagons.
> >
> > My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
> > >thereby
> > >reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> > >
> > >Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
> > >new
> > >tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
> > >the
> > >center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
> > >car;
> > >goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
> > >since
> > >82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
> > >back
> > >and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum
> > >leaks.
> > >Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess
> > >that
> > >is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very
> > >good
> > >shape.
> > >
> > >Karl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In my case, I didn't realize the springs were different until about
> > >three
> > >> months after I bought them. I sent a message to the eBay seller and
> > >they
> > >> wanted all the details as far as application. When that didn't pan
> > >out,
> > >> they got Lesjofors involved. Despite photographs of the springs side
> > >by
> > >> side clearly showing they were different, Lesjofors just threw their
> > >hands
> > >> up and said I must have had some sort of one-off version of a W140. I
> > >> disputed that by showing them the EPC page with my VIN showing the
> > >proper
> > >> MB part number, which they said it was in their application guide.
> > >>
> > >> Never heard back from them. Fortunately, the seller was really good
> > >about
> > >> taking them back and was involved in the whole process of trying to
> > >sort
> > >> things out.
> > >>
> > >> In my case, the stock spring was flared out towards the top by a good
> > >inch
> > >> or more. The spring that Lesjofors said was the correct one was the
> > >same
> > >> diameter the whole length of the spring.  They even checked the
> > >others they
> > >> had for W140 applications and said that none of them were like mine.
> > >>
> > >> That's been my first foray into MB springs. It just reinforced the
> > >lesson
> > >> of going to the dealer for the part.
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > >> >>  wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front
> > >springs.
> > >> >
> > >> > The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy.
> > >> > For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the
> > >S500 and
> > >> S420
> > >> > For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
> > >> > I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff
> > >and
> > >> made the
> > >> > car ride high.
> > >> > The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring
> > >with
> > >> 3 nub or
> > >> > 4 nub spacers.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper
> > >than
> > >> the
> > >> > "S500") and 4 nub
> > >> > spacers from the dealer.
> > >> > The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my
> > >life,
> > >> not that
> > >> > I've
> > >> > replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney
> > >springs
> > >> like I
> > >> > did when I put
> > >> > the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to
> > >Carquest
> > >> when my '95
> > >> > Taurus broke
> > >> > a spring.
> > >> >
> > >> > I do still need to 

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yah wagons only for me. Very practical cars. I have my eye on one.

K

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
>
> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>
> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are somewhat
> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold for
> less than 123 wagons.
>
> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
> >thereby
> >reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> >
> >Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
> >new
> >tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
> >the
> >center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
> >car;
> >goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
> >since
> >82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
> >back
> >and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum
> >leaks.
> >Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess
> >that
> >is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very
> >good
> >shape.
> >
> >Karl
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In my case, I didn't realize the springs were different until about
> >three
> >> months after I bought them. I sent a message to the eBay seller and
> >they
> >> wanted all the details as far as application. When that didn't pan
> >out,
> >> they got Lesjofors involved. Despite photographs of the springs side
> >by
> >> side clearly showing they were different, Lesjofors just threw their
> >hands
> >> up and said I must have had some sort of one-off version of a W140. I
> >> disputed that by showing them the EPC page with my VIN showing the
> >proper
> >> MB part number, which they said it was in their application guide.
> >>
> >> Never heard back from them. Fortunately, the seller was really good
> >about
> >> taking them back and was involved in the whole process of trying to
> >sort
> >> things out.
> >>
> >> In my case, the stock spring was flared out towards the top by a good
> >inch
> >> or more. The spring that Lesjofors said was the correct one was the
> >same
> >> diameter the whole length of the spring.  They even checked the
> >others they
> >> had for W140 applications and said that none of them were like mine.
> >>
> >> That's been my first foray into MB springs. It just reinforced the
> >lesson
> >> of going to the dealer for the part.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front
> >springs.
> >> >
> >> > The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy.
> >> > For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the
> >S500 and
> >> S420
> >> > For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
> >> > I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff
> >and
> >> made the
> >> > car ride high.
> >> > The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring
> >with
> >> 3 nub or
> >> > 4 nub spacers.
> >> >
> >> > So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper
> >than
> >> the
> >> > "S500") and 4 nub
> >> > spacers from the dealer.
> >> > The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my
> >life,
> >> not that
> >> > I've
> >> > replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney
> >springs
> >> like I
> >> > did when I put
> >> > the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to
> >Carquest
> >> when my '95
> >> > Taurus broke
> >> > a spring.
> >> >
> >> > I do still need to contact Lesjofors and see what, if anything,
> >they
> >> will do. If
> >> > they tell
> >> > me I have counterfeit springs, I'm going to kick myself $113 worth
> >for
> >> not doing
> >> > something
> >> > through Paypal/eBay in a timely fashion.
> >> >
> >> > I contacted the eBay seller, who wanted specific info on my car to
> >check
> >> and see
> >> > if I bought
> >> > the "right" springs. I sent him the whole story, beginning with the
> >> model, year,
> >> > and VIN.
> >> > He responded that I sent him a blank message. I replied again, and
> >he
> >> never
> >> > responded.
> >> > Looking back on it, I wish I'd filed an eBay complaint at that
> >point.
> >> >
> >> > ___
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> >> >
> >> > To search list archives 

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

What is with all the slammo wagon spring mutilators? That thing looks like
it would shake your eye teeth out.

If someone would actually race one, I could see the point. But that thing
isn't even a diesel. Pshaw.

Did they really run the w124 from 1987 through to 1995? Holy cow that is a
long time.

Karl

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here's what you need, Karl:
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2443121-w124-estate-lowered.html#post12790073
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
> thereby
> > reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> >
> > Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a new
> > tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
> the
> > center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast car;
> > goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic since
> > 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in back
> > and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum leaks.
> > Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess
> that
> > is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very good
> > shape.
> >
> > Karl
>
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Karl,

Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.  

Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are somewhat 
rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold for 
less than 123 wagons.

My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
>thereby
>reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
>
>Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
>new
>tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
>the
>center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
>car;
>goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
>since
>82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
>back
>and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum
>leaks.
>Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess
>that
>is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very
>good
>shape.
>
>Karl
>
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> In my case, I didn't realize the springs were different until about
>three
>> months after I bought them. I sent a message to the eBay seller and
>they
>> wanted all the details as far as application. When that didn't pan
>out,
>> they got Lesjofors involved. Despite photographs of the springs side
>by
>> side clearly showing they were different, Lesjofors just threw their
>hands
>> up and said I must have had some sort of one-off version of a W140. I
>> disputed that by showing them the EPC page with my VIN showing the
>proper
>> MB part number, which they said it was in their application guide.
>>
>> Never heard back from them. Fortunately, the seller was really good
>about
>> taking them back and was involved in the whole process of trying to
>sort
>> things out.
>>
>> In my case, the stock spring was flared out towards the top by a good
>inch
>> or more. The spring that Lesjofors said was the correct one was the
>same
>> diameter the whole length of the spring.  They even checked the
>others they
>> had for W140 applications and said that none of them were like mine.
>>
>> That's been my first foray into MB springs. It just reinforced the
>lesson
>> of going to the dealer for the part.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front
>springs.
>> >
>> > The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy.
>> > For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the
>S500 and
>> S420
>> > For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
>> > I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff
>and
>> made the
>> > car ride high.
>> > The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring
>with
>> 3 nub or
>> > 4 nub spacers.
>> >
>> > So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper
>than
>> the
>> > "S500") and 4 nub
>> > spacers from the dealer.
>> > The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my
>life,
>> not that
>> > I've
>> > replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney
>springs
>> like I
>> > did when I put
>> > the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to
>Carquest
>> when my '95
>> > Taurus broke
>> > a spring.
>> >
>> > I do still need to contact Lesjofors and see what, if anything,
>they
>> will do. If
>> > they tell
>> > me I have counterfeit springs, I'm going to kick myself $113 worth
>for
>> not doing
>> > something
>> > through Paypal/eBay in a timely fashion.
>> >
>> > I contacted the eBay seller, who wanted specific info on my car to
>check
>> and see
>> > if I bought
>> > the "right" springs. I sent him the whole story, beginning with the
>> model, year,
>> > and VIN.
>> > He responded that I sent him a blank message. I replied again, and
>he
>> never
>> > responded.
>> > Looking back on it, I wish I'd filed an eBay complaint at that
>point.
>> >
>> > ___
>> > http://www.okiebenz.com
>> >
>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> >
>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For Kaleb you change the ignition lock so it doesn't match any of the others. 
The car is $500, the key is $10,000...

-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> 
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] wagon build
   
$10k

$500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.

Dan

Sent from my iPad



> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
> near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C, and
> roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
> interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a reserve
> price...
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Karl,
>> 
>> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>> 
>> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are somewhat
>> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold for
>> less than 123 wagons.
>> 
>> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
>>> thereby
>>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
>>> 
>>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
>>> new
>>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
>>> the
>>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
>>> car;
>>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
>>> since
>>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
>>> back

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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C, and
roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a reserve
price...

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
>
> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>
> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are somewhat
> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold for
> less than 123 wagons.
>
> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
> >thereby
> >reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> >
> >Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
> >new
> >tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
> >the
> >center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
> >car;
> >goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
> >since
> >82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
> >back
> >and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum
> >leaks.
> >Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess
> >that
> >is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very
> >good
> >shape.
> >
> >Karl
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In my case, I didn't realize the springs were different until about
> >three
> >> months after I bought them. I sent a message to the eBay seller and
> >they
> >> wanted all the details as far as application. When that didn't pan
> >out,
> >> they got Lesjofors involved. Despite photographs of the springs side
> >by
> >> side clearly showing they were different, Lesjofors just threw their
> >hands
> >> up and said I must have had some sort of one-off version of a W140. I
> >> disputed that by showing them the EPC page with my VIN showing the
> >proper
> >> MB part number, which they said it was in their application guide.
> >>
> >> Never heard back from them. Fortunately, the seller was really good
> >about
> >> taking them back and was involved in the whole process of trying to
> >sort
> >> things out.
> >>
> >> In my case, the stock spring was flared out towards the top by a good
> >inch
> >> or more. The spring that Lesjofors said was the correct one was the
> >same
> >> diameter the whole length of the spring.  They even checked the
> >others they
> >> had for W140 applications and said that none of them were like mine.
> >>
> >> That's been my first foray into MB springs. It just reinforced the
> >lesson
> >> of going to the dealer for the part.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front
> >springs.
> >> >
> >> > The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy.
> >> > For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the
> >S500 and
> >> S420
> >> > For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
> >> > I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff
> >and
> >> made the
> >> > car ride high.
> >> > The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring
> >with
> >> 3 nub or
> >> > 4 nub spacers.
> >> >
> >> > So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper
> >than
> >> the
> >> > "S500") and 4 nub
> >> > spacers from the dealer.
> >> > The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my
> >life,
> >> not that
> >> > I've
> >> > replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney
> >springs
> >> like I
> >> > did when I put
> >> > the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to
> >Carquest
> >> when my '95
> >> > Taurus broke
> >> > a spring.
> >> >
> >> > I do still need to contact Lesjofors and see what, if anything,
> >they
> >> will do. If
> >> > they tell
> >> > me I have counterfeit springs, I'm going to kick myself $113 worth
> >for
> >> not doing
> >> > something
> >> > through Paypal/eBay in a timely fashion.
> >> >
> >> > I contacted the eBay seller, who wanted specific info on my car to
> >check
> >> and see
> >> > if I bought
> >> > the "right" springs. I sent him the whole story, beginning with the
> >> model, year,
> >> > and VIN.
> >> > He responded that I sent him a blank message. I replied again, and
> >he
> 

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

$10k

$500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.

Dan

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
> near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C, and
> roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
> interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a reserve
> price...
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Karl,
>> 
>> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>> 
>> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are somewhat
>> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold for
>> less than 123 wagons.
>> 
>> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
>>> thereby
>>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
>>> 
>>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
>>> new
>>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
>>> the
>>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
>>> car;
>>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
>>> since
>>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
>>> back

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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully...

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $10k
>
> $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
> > near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C,
> and
> > roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
> > interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a
> reserve
> > price...
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Karl,
> >>
> >> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
> >>
> >> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are
> somewhat
> >> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold
> for
> >> less than 123 wagons.
> >>
> >> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
> >> --
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '95 E300
> >>
> >> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
> >>> thereby
> >>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
> >>> new
> >>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
> >>> the
> >>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
> >>> car;
> >>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
> >>> since
> >>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
> >>> back
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here's what you need, Karl:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2443121-w124-estate-lowered.html#post12790073

Dan

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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and thereby
> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
> 
> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a new
> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but the
> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast car;
> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic since
> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in back
> and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum leaks.
> Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess that
> is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very good
> shape.
> 
> Karl

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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why not, if it's nice?

You can always do a "second chance offer" if it doesn't meet the reserve.

Just remember that eBay will rape you on fees. It's a necessary evil, but where 
else will you get that kind of exposure?

With that in mind, you might want to consider signing up for BenzWorld and 
listing it there. It doesn't cost anything and you'll get good exposure, albeit 
much more discerning buyers. 

Dan

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully...
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> $10k
>> 
>> $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
>> > near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C, and
>> > roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
>> > interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a reserve
>> > price...
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Karl,
>> >>
>> >> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>> >>
>> >> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are somewhat
>> >> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold 
>> >> for
>> >> less than 123 wagons.
>> >>
>> >> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
>> >> --
>> >> Max Dillon
>> >> Charleston SC
>> >> '87 300TD
>> >> '95 E300
>> >>
>> >> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
>> >>> thereby
>> >>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
>> >>>
>> >>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
>> >>> new
>> >>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
>> >>> the
>> >>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
>> >>> car;
>> >>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
>> >>> since
>> >>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
>> >>> back
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The point being is that it will be mostly MB people who know the car well and 
will often pick nits. I don't expect you'll get top dollar there for just that 
reason, unless the car is really outstanding.

If you want to get top dollar, I would say go to eBay.  People pay stupid money 
for stuff there, and you've also got the "I'm going to beat you even though I'm 
paying far more than it's worth" mentality, too.

Of course, you can always try Craigslist if you want the lowballers, can you 
finance it for me, and the no-shows.

Dan

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The last thing I need is a "discerning buyer"...
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> But does the AC BLOW ICE COLD and does it get 40mpg on FREE VEG OIL???
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/11/15 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully...
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> $10k
 
 $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
> near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C,
 and
 
> roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
> interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a
 reserve
 
> price...
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Karl,
>> 
>> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>> 
>> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are
> somewhat
 
> rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold
> for
 
> less than 123 wagons.
>> 
>> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
>>> thereby
>>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
>>> 
>>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
>>> new
>>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything
>>> but
>>> the
>>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
>>> car;
>>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
>>> since
>>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
>>> back
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

But does the AC BLOW ICE COLD and does it get 40mpg on FREE VEG OIL???

--R



On 9/11/15 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully...

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


$10k

$500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C,

and

roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a

reserve

price...

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Karl,

Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.

Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are

somewhat

rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold

for

less than 123 wagons.

My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
thereby
reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.

Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
new
tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but
the
center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
car;
goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
since
82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
back

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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The last thing I need is a "discerning buyer"...

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But does the AC BLOW ICE COLD and does it get 40mpg on FREE VEG OIL???
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 9/11/15 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully...
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> $10k
>>>
>>> $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a
 near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C,

>>> and
>>>
 roof racks.  It has a replacement drive train but so what?  Should be an
 interesting ebay auction.  The toughest part will be settling on a

>>> reserve
>>>
 price...

 On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Karl,
>
> Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay.
>
> Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod?  Wagons are
>
 somewhat
>>>
 rare, and usually neglected and beat up.  124 wagons are generally sold
>
 for
>>>
 less than 123 wagons.
>
> My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On September 10, 2015 11:14:43 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and
>> thereby
>> reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.
>>
>> Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a
>> new
>> tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything
>> but
>> the
>> center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast
>> car;
>> goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic
>> since
>> 82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in
>> back
>>
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You should use it for a taxi then

--R


On 9/10/15 9:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I LOVE my wagons so much that I will replace the two spheres in the 1985
300TD even though they were replaced once recently.  The rear is uber
bouncy...



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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I LOVE my wagons so much that I will replace the two spheres in the 1985
300TD even though they were replaced once recently.  The rear is uber
bouncy...

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They ride so goood...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 8:22 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] wagon build
>
> SLS is like a Zenith carb.  People are mystified by it, but if they took
> the time to understand it and simply follow instructions when working on
> them, they would realize how simple and trouble-free they are.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some people have an irrational fear of SLS similar to a fear of snakes,
> and no amount of persuasion can prevent them from removing it.
> > --
> > Max Dillon, fears neither snakes nor SLS.
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 10, 2015 at 10:00 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Where did the last spheres come from? Manufacturers name?
> Maybe its time to stop buying parts purely on price? IIRC you source or at
> least look up, a lot of stuff on eBay. A cheap repair is not cheap the second
> time you do it.


Reminds me, I've got to do something about the new/sacked out springs on the
S420.
The boxes said Lesjofors, the car sat a little high when I put it together,
dropped
to level overnight, and was almost as bad as the broken original springs after
one
mile. That was four months ago, now it's worse than the broken springs. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Where did the last spheres come from? Manufacturers name?
Maybe its time to stop buying parts purely on price? IIRC you source or at 
least look up, a lot of stuff on eBay. A cheap repair is not cheap the second 
time you do it.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] wagon build
   
I LOVE my wagons so much that I will replace the two spheres in the 1985  300TD 
even though they were replaced once recently.  The rear is uber bouncy...


On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

They ride so goood...
-Curt

      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 8:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] wagon build

SLS is like a Zenith carb.  People are mystified by it, but if they took the 
time to understand it and simply follow instructions when working on them, they 
would realize how simple and trouble-free they are.

Dan




> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Some people have an irrational fear of SLS similar to a fear of snakes, and 
> no amount of persuasion can prevent them from removing it.
> --
> Max Dillon, fears neither snakes nor SLS.
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>


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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In my case, I didn't realize the springs were different until about three 
months after I bought them. I sent a message to the eBay seller and they wanted 
all the details as far as application. When that didn't pan out, they got 
Lesjofors involved. Despite photographs of the springs side by side clearly 
showing they were different, Lesjofors just threw their hands up and said I 
must have had some sort of one-off version of a W140. I disputed that by 
showing them the EPC page with my VIN showing the proper MB part number, which 
they said it was in their application guide.

Never heard back from them. Fortunately, the seller was really good about 
taking them back and was involved in the whole process of trying to sort things 
out.

In my case, the stock spring was flared out towards the top by a good inch or 
more. The spring that Lesjofors said was the correct one was the same diameter 
the whole length of the spring.  They even checked the others they had for W140 
applications and said that none of them were like mine.

That's been my first foray into MB springs. It just reinforced the lesson of 
going to the dealer for the part.

Dan

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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front springs.
> 
> The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy. 
> For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the S500 and S420
> For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
> I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff and made 
> the
> car ride high. 
> The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring with 3 nub 
> or
> 4 nub spacers.
> 
> So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper than the
> "S500") and 4 nub
> spacers from the dealer. 
> The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my life, not 
> that
> I've
> replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney springs like I
> did when I put
> the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to Carquest when my 
> '95
> Taurus broke
> a spring. 
> 
> I do still need to contact Lesjofors and see what, if anything, they will do. 
> If
> they tell
> me I have counterfeit springs, I'm going to kick myself $113 worth for not 
> doing
> something
> through Paypal/eBay in a timely fashion. 
> 
> I contacted the eBay seller, who wanted specific info on my car to check and 
> see
> if I bought
> the "right" springs. I sent him the whole story, beginning with the model, 
> year,
> and VIN.
> He responded that I sent him a blank message. I replied again, and he never
> responded.
> Looking back on it, I wish I'd filed an eBay complaint at that point. 
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front springs.

The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy. 
For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the S500 and S420
For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff and made the
car ride high. 
The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring with 3 nub or
4 nub spacers.

So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper than the
"S500") and 4 nub
spacers from the dealer. 
The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my life, not that
I've
replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney springs like I
did when I put
the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to Carquest when my '95
Taurus broke
a spring. 

I do still need to contact Lesjofors and see what, if anything, they will do. If
they tell
me I have counterfeit springs, I'm going to kick myself $113 worth for not doing
something
through Paypal/eBay in a timely fashion. 

I contacted the eBay seller, who wanted specific info on my car to check and see
if I bought
the "right" springs. I sent him the whole story, beginning with the model, year,
and VIN.
He responded that I sent him a blank message. I replied again, and he never
responded.
Looking back on it, I wish I'd filed an eBay complaint at that point. 

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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring myself to hot rod the 85 and thereby
reduce whatever value it has to virtually nothing.

Which begs the question, what does a totally rust-free 85 tdt with a new
tranny, rebuilt turbo and top end go for these days with everything but the
center vents working and newish paint? It is actually almost a fast car;
goes like hell after the new head and turbo. Been running synthetic since
82k; has 189k now. Interior presentable but could use new carpet in back
and passenger front. Headliner is fine, sunroof manual, no vacuum leaks.
Basically totally functional but no blow from center vents so I guess that
is next. AC cold, new controller. Yada yada. You get the idea; very good
shape.

Karl



On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In my case, I didn't realize the springs were different until about three
> months after I bought them. I sent a message to the eBay seller and they
> wanted all the details as far as application. When that didn't pan out,
> they got Lesjofors involved. Despite photographs of the springs side by
> side clearly showing they were different, Lesjofors just threw their hands
> up and said I must have had some sort of one-off version of a W140. I
> disputed that by showing them the EPC page with my VIN showing the proper
> MB part number, which they said it was in their application guide.
>
> Never heard back from them. Fortunately, the seller was really good about
> taking them back and was involved in the whole process of trying to sort
> things out.
>
> In my case, the stock spring was flared out towards the top by a good inch
> or more. The spring that Lesjofors said was the correct one was the same
> diameter the whole length of the spring.  They even checked the others they
> had for W140 applications and said that none of them were like mine.
>
> That's been my first foray into MB springs. It just reinforced the lesson
> of going to the dealer for the part.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On September 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Guess that means I'll buy OE for the 98 S420 that needs front springs.
> >
> > The Lesjofors catalog info on the ebay listings seems dodgy.
> > For some years, including 97, they list the same spring for the S500 and
> S420
> > For other years, they list the same spring for S320 and S420.
> > I'd seen comments on Benzworld that the S500 springs were too stiff and
> made the
> > car ride high.
> > The EPC had 3 springs, and for my car specified the weakest spring with
> 3 nub or
> > 4 nub spacers.
> >
> > So I bought the "S320" springs on eBay (which were $50-60 cheaper than
> the
> > "S500") and 4 nub
> > spacers from the dealer.
> > The result was the only bad spring experience I've ever had in my life,
> not that
> > I've
> > replaced many coil springs. Maybe I should have used JC Whitney springs
> like I
> > did when I put
> > the trailer hitch on my Plymouth Horizon. I think I went to Carquest
> when my '95
> > Taurus broke
> > a spring.
> >
> > I do still need to contact Lesjofors and see what, if anything, they
> will do. If
> > they tell
> > me I have counterfeit springs, I'm going to kick myself $113 worth for
> not doing
> > something
> > through Paypal/eBay in a timely fashion.
> >
> > I contacted the eBay seller, who wanted specific info on my car to check
> and see
> > if I bought
> > the "right" springs. I sent him the whole story, beginning with the
> model, year,
> > and VIN.
> > He responded that I sent him a blank message. I replied again, and he
> never
> > responded.
> > Looking back on it, I wish I'd filed an eBay complaint at that point.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

SLS is like a Zenith carb.  People are mystified by it, but if they took the 
time to understand it and simply follow instructions when working on them, they 
would realize how simple and trouble-free they are.

Dan


> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some people have an irrational fear of SLS similar to a fear of snakes, and 
> no amount of persuasion can prevent them from removing it.
> -- 
> Max Dillon, fears neither snakes nor SLS.
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 


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[MBZ] wagon build

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/351803-finally-intro-300td-manual-project.html

--R


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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A turbo 617 with a 4spd would be cool, with a 5spd it'd be awesome. Too bad he 
decided to do away with SLS. I didn't read his reasons, just skipped ahead and 
saw that he'd done it...
-Curt

  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] wagon build
   
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/351803-finally-intro-300td-manual-project.html

--R


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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Some people have an irrational fear of SLS similar to a fear of snakes, and no 
amount of persuasion can prevent them from removing it.
-- 
Max Dillon, fears neither snakes nor SLS.
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 9, 2015 7:35:47 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>A turbo 617 with a 4spd would be cool, with a 5spd it'd be awesome. Too
>bad he decided to do away with SLS. I didn't read his reasons, just
>skipped ahead and saw that he'd done it...
>-Curt
>
>  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:14 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] wagon build
>   
>http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/351803-finally-intro-300td-manual-project.html
>
>--R
>
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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Some people have an irrational fear of SLS similar to a fear of 
snakes, and no amount of persuasion can prevent them from removing 
it.

--
Max Dillon, fears neither snakes nor SLS.
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


SLS is pretty simple.  Most complex part is the dual pump on some. 
It is supposedly not rebuildable, but Q got a kit for me and I 
rebuilt the  one I had that was leaking.  new seals and it worked 
perfectly.


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Re: [MBZ] wagon build

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They ride so goood...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 8:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] wagon build
   
SLS is like a Zenith carb.  People are mystified by it, but if they took the 
time to understand it and simply follow instructions when working on them, they 
would realize how simple and trouble-free they are.

Dan




> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Some people have an irrational fear of SLS similar to a fear of snakes, and 
> no amount of persuasion can prevent them from removing it.
> -- 
> Max Dillon, fears neither snakes nor SLS.
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 


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[MBZ] Wagon

[Mike Esh]

Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over?  My daughter is beginning 
to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas 
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html

Michael E. Esh
231-286-2344

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Mike,

I have some nice palomino door panels and rear hatch covers if you do get
the car and want to replace some of the interior.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:

 Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over?  My daughter is
 beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
 http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html

 Michael E. Esh
 231-286-2344

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Mike Esh]

Thanks Andrew! I will keep you in mind.

Mike

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On Oct 21, 2013, at 07:12 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:


Mike,

I have some nice palomino door panels and rear hatch covers if you do get
the car and want to replace some of the interior.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:


Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is
beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html
 
Michael E. Esh

231-286-2344
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Rich Thomas]

That is the same color as my 79, on which the body is rusting out but 
has good mechanicals and runs pretty well.  I don't drive it much, it 
would be a good beater for a kid, or mash it up with that thing and come 
up with a half-decent car.


--R


On 10/21/13 2:57 AM, Mike Esh wrote:

Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over?  My daughter is beginning 
to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html

Michael E. Esh
231-286-2344

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Gary Hurst]

the car hasn't been driven in years and before then hardly driven for
years, but it runs like a tank.  i'll bet you this car is a pile of crap


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 beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
 http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html

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