Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-15 Thread Meade Dillon
That Meineke manager knows how to get business.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On May 15, 2014 12:32 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Another minor solution I undertook today was to plug the exhaust leak at
the cross member.  Frosch has the H cross pipe and my indy told me the
driver side had a leak that could be patched with a welder.  I had seen
emissions coming out of the underside of that hole and figured it would be
simple.  Today I bit the bullet and hit Meineke.  Manager got me right on
the lift and had the welder dude drop a bead all the way around.  Job done,
manager give it to me as a freebie.
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-15 Thread WILTON

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!


Another minor solution I undertook today was to plug the exhaust leak at 
the cross member.  Frosch has the H cross pipe and my indy told me the 
driver side had a leak that could be patched with a welder.  I had seen 
emissions coming out of the underside of that hole and figured it would be 
simple.  Today I bit the bullet and hit Meineke.  Manager got me right on 
the lift and had the welder dude drop a bead all the way around.  Job 
done, manager give it to me as a freebie.  Welder dude pointed out 
passenger side had small leak and the pipe weld was also failing.  Now I 
have to order a full pipe set from the Sexy Chowda King


clay


On May 13, 2014, at 4:22 PM, WILTON wrote:


Attach key to vibrating plate; insert key; turn sander on; rotate key.

Wilt

- Original Message - From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!



That's awesome! Glad to hear you got it.

How exactly did you use the sander?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-15 Thread clay
Most of the rest of the pipes and muffler are rotting away.  I figure I can get 
away with a year or two before I invest in something from Sexy Chowda King

clay

On May 14, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Meade Dillon wrote:

 That Meineke manager knows how to get business.
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
 
 On May 15, 2014 12:32 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Another minor solution I undertook today was to plug the exhaust leak at
 the cross member.  Frosch has the H cross pipe and my indy told me the
 driver side had a leak that could be patched with a welder.  I had seen
 emissions coming out of the underside of that hole and figured it would be
 simple.  Today I bit the bullet and hit Meineke.  Manager got me right on
 the lift and had the welder dude drop a bead all the way around.  Job done,
 manager give it to me as a freebie.
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-14 Thread clay
I am thinking we should all be removing the tumblers on a regular basis and 
give them a huge cleaning up.  Would keep our cars from locking us out.

Max,  I had the option to use the spray stuff or a smaller liquid bottle to 
inject the stuff.  Poking the key in and jiggling for a few minutes every day 
served to help the goo flow over parts.  The gunk coming out got blacker and 
thicker each day.  Five days in, I used the finish sander to assist the gunk.

The key was fully inserted into the tumbler and I placed the sander head on the 
key head.  I applied a variety of pressures to the key and moved it around the 
cardinal points to make sure every booger let loose.  First attempt did not 
make it work, so I zapped it  a few more times until the key decided to turn.

clay


On May 13, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Meade Dillon wrote:

 That's awesome! Glad to hear you got it.
 
 How exactly did you use the sander?
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-14 Thread clay
The Colonel is my GOD, and will be forever my idol.

clay

On May 13, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 You are now beholden to the Great and Powerful Wilton.
 
 Pay homage.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 13, 2014, at 5:14 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
 massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and 
 jiggling the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key.  
 Fleabay provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out 
 the original, so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient by 
 nature, so I got out the finish sander from under all the other cases of 
 power tool and tried to excite the tumbler into action.
 
 Guess WHAT  It WORKED!
 
 I was so happy I leapt out of the car and immediately rang up my indy to ask 
 what I should do.  Car still running, I hopped in and in a few moments the 
 spare lock body was installed and the old one removed.  I will be headed 
 back once the OE MB tumbler is produced by Black Forest  Elves. Until then, 
 I have one key to start the car and one to lock it up
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
 
 If it's like the locking ignition switch in the 123s and 126s, I would
 recommend removing the cylinder the very next time you are able to turn the
 key.  In a pinch, you can turn the switch with a screwdriver when the
 cylinder is out.
 
 My 123 lock was sticky so I pulled the cylinder and used a non-matching
 loaner cylinder until the matching one arrived (several weeks).  In that
 car part of the problem was a sticky steering wheel lock mechanism, which
 improved with lubrication.
 
 My 126 lock cylinder failed to the point I could never turn the key to
 remove the cylinder.  That one had to be sawed off (from below) and the
 entire mechanism (the whole steering wheel lock) replaced.
 
 After these experiences, I remove a failing cylinder at the first sign of
 trouble.
 
 Your older setup may be totally different, though.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
 there a less expensive approach?
 
 As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, would
 buy a new lock.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-14 Thread clay
yes, I am pretty sure I was oblivious to your great knowledge and wisdom at 
that point.  I was afraid that I would be emasculated by following the advice 
so quickly.

clay

On May 13, 2014, at 4:12 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Wasn't I trying to get ya to use a finish sander several/few weeks ago?
 
 ATTABOY!
 
 Wilt
 
 - Original Message - From: clay redgh...@comcast.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 
 Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
 massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and 
 jiggling the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key. 
 Fleabay provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out 
 the original, so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient by 
 nature, so I got out the finish sander from under all the other cases of 
 power tool and tried to excite the tumbler into action.
 
 Guess WHAT  It WORKED!
 
 I was so happy I leapt out of the car and immediately rang up my indy to ask 
 what I should do.  Car still running, I hopped in and in a few moments the 
 spare lock body was installed and the old one removed.  I will be headed 
 back once the OE MB tumbler is produced by Black Forest  Elves. Until then, 
 I have one key to start the car and one to lock it up
 
 clay
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
 
 If it's like the locking ignition switch in the 123s and 126s, I would
 recommend removing the cylinder the very next time you are able to turn the
 key.  In a pinch, you can turn the switch with a screwdriver when the
 cylinder is out.
 
 My 123 lock was sticky so I pulled the cylinder and used a non-matching
 loaner cylinder until the matching one arrived (several weeks).  In that
 car part of the problem was a sticky steering wheel lock mechanism, which
 improved with lubrication.
 
 My 126 lock cylinder failed to the point I could never turn the key to
 remove the cylinder.  That one had to be sawed off (from below) and the
 entire mechanism (the whole steering wheel lock) replaced.
 
 After these experiences, I remove a failing cylinder at the first sign of
 trouble.
 
 Your older setup may be totally different, though.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
 there a less expensive approach?
 
 As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, would
 buy a new lock.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-14 Thread clay
Another minor solution I undertook today was to plug the exhaust leak at the 
cross member.  Frosch has the H cross pipe and my indy told me the driver side 
had a leak that could be patched with a welder.  I had seen emissions coming 
out of the underside of that hole and figured it would be simple.  Today I bit 
the bullet and hit Meineke.  Manager got me right on the lift and had the 
welder dude drop a bead all the way around.  Job done, manager give it to me as 
a freebie.  Welder dude pointed out passenger side had small leak and the pipe 
weld was also failing.  Now I have to order a full pipe set from the Sexy 
Chowda King

clay


On May 13, 2014, at 4:22 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Attach key to vibrating plate; insert key; turn sander on; rotate key.
 
 Wilt
 
 - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 
 That's awesome! Glad to hear you got it.
 
 How exactly did you use the sander?
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread clay
Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and jiggling 
the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key.  Fleabay 
provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out the original, 
so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient by nature, so I got 
out the finish sander from under all the other cases of power tool and tried to 
excite the tumbler into action.

Guess WHAT  It WORKED!

I was so happy I leapt out of the car and immediately rang up my indy to ask 
what I should do.  Car still running, I hopped in and in a few moments the 
spare lock body was installed and the old one removed.  I will be headed back 
once the OE MB tumbler is produced by Black Forest  Elves. Until then, I have 
one key to start the car and one to lock it up

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

 If it's like the locking ignition switch in the 123s and 126s, I would
 recommend removing the cylinder the very next time you are able to turn the
 key.  In a pinch, you can turn the switch with a screwdriver when the
 cylinder is out.
 
 My 123 lock was sticky so I pulled the cylinder and used a non-matching
 loaner cylinder until the matching one arrived (several weeks).  In that
 car part of the problem was a sticky steering wheel lock mechanism, which
 improved with lubrication.
 
 My 126 lock cylinder failed to the point I could never turn the key to
 remove the cylinder.  That one had to be sawed off (from below) and the
 entire mechanism (the whole steering wheel lock) replaced.
 
 After these experiences, I remove a failing cylinder at the first sign of
 trouble.
 
 Your older setup may be totally different, though.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
 there a less expensive approach?
 
 As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, would
 buy a new lock.
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread Meade Dillon
That's awesome! Glad to hear you got it.

How exactly did you use the sander?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread Scott Ritchey

Tat's the best of all possible outcomes!  I had to have one cut off when my
SD cylinder went south about 20 years ago.  But I didn't know the sander
trick then.  When my TD cylinder started acting up a few years later, I
wasted NO time in getting the wonky cylinder out.  Lessons learned.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:14 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung
 massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and
 jiggling the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key.
 Fleabay provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out
 the original, so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient
 by nature, so I got out the finish sander from under all the other cases
 of power tool and tried to excite the tumbler into action.
 
 Guess WHAT  It WORKED!
 
 I was so happy I leapt out of the car and immediately rang up my indy to
 ask what I should do.  Car still running, I hopped in and in a few moments
 the spare lock body was installed and the old one removed.  I will be
 headed back once the OE MB tumbler is produced by Black Forest  Elves.
 Until then, I have one key to start the car and one to lock it up
 
 clay
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread Mitch Haley

clay wrote:

Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and jiggling 
the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key.  Fleabay 
provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out the original, 
so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient by nature, so I got 
out the finish sander from under all the other cases of power tool and tried to 
excite the tumbler into action.

Guess WHAT  It WORKED!



Since Wilton seems to be otherwise occupied, allow me to say

ATTABOY!

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread Dan Penoff
You are now beholden to the Great and Powerful Wilton.

Pay homage.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On May 13, 2014, at 5:14 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
 massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and 
 jiggling the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key.  
 Fleabay provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out the 
 original, so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient by 
 nature, so I got out the finish sander from under all the other cases of 
 power tool and tried to excite the tumbler into action.
 
 Guess WHAT  It WORKED!
 
 I was so happy I leapt out of the car and immediately rang up my indy to ask 
 what I should do.  Car still running, I hopped in and in a few moments the 
 spare lock body was installed and the old one removed.  I will be headed back 
 once the OE MB tumbler is produced by Black Forest  Elves. Until then, I have 
 one key to start the car and one to lock it up
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
 
 If it's like the locking ignition switch in the 123s and 126s, I would
 recommend removing the cylinder the very next time you are able to turn the
 key.  In a pinch, you can turn the switch with a screwdriver when the
 cylinder is out.
 
 My 123 lock was sticky so I pulled the cylinder and used a non-matching
 loaner cylinder until the matching one arrived (several weeks).  In that
 car part of the problem was a sticky steering wheel lock mechanism, which
 improved with lubrication.
 
 My 126 lock cylinder failed to the point I could never turn the key to
 remove the cylinder.  That one had to be sawed off (from below) and the
 entire mechanism (the whole steering wheel lock) replaced.
 
 After these experiences, I remove a failing cylinder at the first sign of
 trouble.
 
 Your older setup may be totally different, though.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
 there a less expensive approach?
 
 As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, would
 buy a new lock.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread WILTON

Wasn't I trying to get ya to use a finish sander several/few weeks ago?

ATTABOY!

Wilt

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From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!


Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and 
jiggling the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key. 
Fleabay provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out 
the original, so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient 
by nature, so I got out the finish sander from under all the other cases 
of power tool and tried to excite the tumbler into action.


Guess WHAT  It WORKED!

I was so happy I leapt out of the car and immediately rang up my indy to 
ask what I should do.  Car still running, I hopped in and in a few moments 
the spare lock body was installed and the old one removed.  I will be 
headed back once the OE MB tumbler is produced by Black Forest  Elves. 
Until then, I have one key to start the car and one to lock it up


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:


If it's like the locking ignition switch in the 123s and 126s, I would
recommend removing the cylinder the very next time you are able to turn 
the

key.  In a pinch, you can turn the switch with a screwdriver when the
cylinder is out.

My 123 lock was sticky so I pulled the cylinder and used a non-matching
loaner cylinder until the matching one arrived (several weeks).  In 
that

car part of the problem was a sticky steering wheel lock mechanism, which
improved with lubrication.

My 126 lock cylinder failed to the point I could never turn the key to
remove the cylinder.  That one had to be sawed off (from below) and the
entire mechanism (the whole steering wheel lock) replaced.

After these experiences, I remove a failing cylinder at the first sign of
trouble.

Your older setup may be totally different, though.


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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:


Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
there a less expensive approach?


As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, 
would

buy a new lock.




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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread WILTON
'Out scrounging bricks to replace section of front walk destroyed by huge 
oak during past 70+ years.  Oak and its stump/roots are gone now.


Thnks.

Wilt

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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!



clay wrote:
Banned offered a few insightful notions.  I chose not to use the Samsung 
massager, but after many days of soaking the tumbler with Tri-Flo and 
jiggling the key, I was only getting thick, black ooze out and on my key. 
Fleabay provided a spare lock body, incase there were a need to drill out 
the original, so I knew I could be patient if need be.  I am not patient 
by nature, so I got out the finish sander from under all the other cases 
of power tool and tried to excite the tumbler into action.


Guess WHAT  It WORKED!



Since Wilton seems to be otherwise occupied, allow me to say

ATTABOY!

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-05-13 Thread WILTON

Attach key to vibrating plate; insert key; turn sander on; rotate key.

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!



That's awesome! Glad to hear you got it.

How exactly did you use the sander?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-04-16 Thread clay
Do not think that I did not contemplate that, but the dang steering rudder is 
locked, so I could only go in a wobbly-ish line

clay

On Apr 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

 On 14/04/2014 1:40 PM, clay wrote:
 I wanted to get Frosch moved to give her a good lathering up and scrubbing 
 this morning.  I put the key in the ignition, but no amount of force would 
 make the key turn.  I wiggled the steering wheel, played with the gear 
 shifter, Cranked on the steering wheel to both directions and tried the key. 
  No love.
 
 This is the first and only time this had happened.  I had same issue with 
 Gump a number of times until the little pin in the ignition lock gave up the 
 ghost and fell out.  Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed 
 to my car or is there a less expensive approach?
 
 
 clay
 
 
 Well, you could just rip it out with a slide hammer and twist wires together 
 under the dash to make it run when you want to drive it.
 
 That, I believe, is the less expensive approach.
 
 Randy
 
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[MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-04-14 Thread clay
I wanted to get Frosch moved to give her a good lathering up and scrubbing this 
morning.  I put the key in the ignition, but no amount of force would make the 
key turn.  I wiggled the steering wheel, played with the gear shifter, Cranked 
on the steering wheel to both directions and tried the key.  No love.

This is the first and only time this had happened.  I had same issue with Gump 
a number of times until the little pin in the ignition lock gave up the ghost 
and fell out.  Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car 
or is there a less expensive approach?


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-04-14 Thread Randy Bennell

On 14/04/2014 1:40 PM, clay wrote:

I wanted to get Frosch moved to give her a good lathering up and scrubbing this 
morning.  I put the key in the ignition, but no amount of force would make the 
key turn.  I wiggled the steering wheel, played with the gear shifter, Cranked 
on the steering wheel to both directions and tried the key.  No love.

This is the first and only time this had happened.  I had same issue with Gump 
a number of times until the little pin in the ignition lock gave up the ghost 
and fell out.  Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car 
or is there a less expensive approach?


clay


Well, you could just rip it out with a slide hammer and twist wires 
together under the dash to make it run when you want to drive it.


That, I believe, is the less expensive approach.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-04-14 Thread Craig
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
 there a less expensive approach?

As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, would
buy a new lock.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-04-14 Thread WILTON
position.  Also fortunate that tremor in my hands has reduced significantly
in last several months allowing me to do such as this tumbler replacement
again.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 2:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!


I wanted to get Frosch moved to give her a good lathering up and scrubbing 
this morning.  I put the key in the ignition, but no amount of force would 
make the key turn.  I wiggled the steering wheel, played with the gear 
shifter, Cranked on the steering wheel to both directions and tried the 
key.  No love.


This is the first and only time this had happened.  I had same issue with 
Gump a number of times until the little pin in the ignition lock gave up 
the ghost and fell out.  Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock 
keyed to my car or is there a less expensive approach?



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!

2014-04-14 Thread Scott Ritchey
If it's like the locking ignition switch in the 123s and 126s, I would
recommend removing the cylinder the very next time you are able to turn the
key.  In a pinch, you can turn the switch with a screwdriver when the
cylinder is out.

My 123 lock was sticky so I pulled the cylinder and used a non-matching
loaner cylinder until the matching one arrived (several weeks).  In that
car part of the problem was a sticky steering wheel lock mechanism, which
improved with lubrication.

My 126 lock cylinder failed to the point I could never turn the key to
remove the cylinder.  That one had to be sawed off (from below) and the
entire mechanism (the whole steering wheel lock) replaced.

After these experiences, I remove a failing cylinder at the first sign of
trouble.

Your older setup may be totally different, though.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:33 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why U no Turnz?!
 
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:40:26 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  Should I go straight to purchasing a fresh lock keyed to my car or is
  there a less expensive approach?
 
 As Randy mentioned, there is a less-expensive approach. I, however, would
 buy a new lock.
 
 
 Craig
 
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