Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
Back in my days as an undergrad at the University of Texas (early 80's), there were 10 women in a class of 300 something. Later in grad school, there were 2 out of 65 (and of course both of them were from the Pacific rim somewhere). My EE class (-of) had three, as I recall. Pure white bread, though. I don't recall that there was much in the way of PR types there at the time. A fair number from India, though. My roommate was Samoan. A lab partner (F) was Icelandic. Mostly I didn't/don't pay attention. Or particularly care! I knew one of the three women fairly well, as I dated her roommate for a time, and we had nearly identical intra- and extra-curricular schedules for four years. Engineering wasn't in her soul, for her that career choice was a business decision. Most of the rest of us were geeks, doomed to the field, and she'd look at us like we were under glass. I did enjoy that one of my friends, a callous handsome fellow that left a wake, had a crush on her. She looked at him like he was a bug. I couldn't help but think he deserved it! Ahh, mam... err, MEMories! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
On Feb 10, 2007, at 4:58 AM, LarryT wrote: A friend of mine held a pretty high position at NASA and was called on to visit colleges and universities on vaarious occassions. One time at UVA (IIRC) he visited a Mech Engr lab and saw a rear axle assy in the middle of the floor. Between classes he asked the professor for the reason they had the rear axle assy. He was told, If these kids lear *anything* they're going to learn how to change a tire. Seems something like 90%+ had no idea how to change a tire. Ah, so at our MBCA event tomorrow at the dealer we're going to learn how to change a tire... This might seem rather fundamental but I suspect that a huge percent of the folks attending wouldn't know how. Also having a son in Mech Engineering I can assume you that picking any of his classmates at random he (she? nah no women in sight) might know what torque means in theory, but if you would give them a torque wrench they would struggle with clockwise to tighten? Or is that anti-clockwise... Sad and scary... PS yes although the eng dept hands out millions in bursaries to women it seems the women view it as a way to pay their way into biology, law, etc, anything but engineering come their second year. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
There were a surprising number of women upperclass students at the open houses, tours, etc. at the University of Oklahoma Shcool of Engineering, where my son just started in mech eng. this year. He thought it was cool PS yes although the eng dept hands out millions in bursaries to women it seems the women view it as a way to pay their way into biology, law, etc, anything but engineering come their second year. John -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
understanding the way mechanical things work. Yes, physical strength comes into play, but setting that aside, the majority of women literally do not know how to change a tire. And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim Danica Patrick Chris K Cayce, SC
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
And there are a lot of things that ladies do that men have no interest in learning anything about. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! understanding the way mechanical things work. Yes, physical strength comes into play, but setting that aside, the majority of women literally do not know how to change a tire. And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.33/678 - Release Date: 9/02/2007
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YUMMMmmm! Pert little wonder of automotive control On Feb 9, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Chris Kueny wrote: And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim Danica Patrick Chris K Cayce, SC -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
Actually, doesn't Danika have a team of men changing her tires? Yes Jim - no interest in changing the arrangement. It's one of the subtle ways they exercise their power. Like when they ask you how they look. Funny how they want your opinion on how they look before you go out, but she thinks that she has to dress you because you're incompetent to do so. I have set a precedent early on in our relationship in that I am pretty honest most of the time in response to this question. You've to to train them, you see. Brian On 2/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of trained: Can someone give me an idea as to what to get my wife for valentines (actually our first-date-anniversary is on the 12th and this seems to be what we really celebrate). Bear in mind that I literally don't have any money to play with right now. You have your challenge, men. Brian On 2/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, doesn't Danika have a team of men changing her tires? Yes Jim - no interest in changing the arrangement. It's one of the subtle ways they exercise their power. Like when they ask you how they look. Funny how they want your opinion on how they look before you go out, but she thinks that she has to dress you because you're incompetent to do so. I have set a precedent early on in our relationship in that I am pretty honest most of the time in response to this question. You've to to train them, you see. Brian On 2/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A friend of mine held a pretty high position at NASA and was called on to visit colleges and universities on vaarious occassions. One time at UVA (IIRC) he visited a Mech Engr lab and saw a rear axle assy in the middle of the floor. Between classes he asked the professor for the reason they had the rear axle assy. He was told, If these kids lear *anything* they're going to learn how to change a tire. Seems something like 90%+ had no idea how to change a tire. I can only speak for myself and the kids I hung around with during the mid-late teen years - but we were so anxious to start driving, we wanted to learn anything everything about cars we possibly could - including the procedure for changing a tire. It's been 40+ years since I went thru driver's ed. but I believe changing a tire was part of the class. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.32/677 - Release Date: 2/8/2007
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! - Valentines suggetions
Brian - 1st, keep in mind that I am retired and an early riser - and enjoy the physical contact. #1 My bride of 32 years would rather stay up late and sleep until noon, but has to leave for work by 7:30 AM. One of the things I have done for her is become her alarm clock for a time - only I use a back rub. 10 - 20 minutes every morning. We both enjoyed it enough that it lasted for a year [4 months out now because of botched surgery and a fall breaking her humerus in 5 places, and she still can't relax on her stomach]. I'd suggest a week to start. I also found lotion with the fragrance of her favorite perfume [pretty cheap on eBay], but that does start to cost. #2 Another cheap and appreciated thing is flowers. Where I live there are flowers in the yard year around [had to take a foot off some Impatients last week], and one in an appropriate container in her car in the morning is a nice touch. That won't work this time of year for many because of that pesky white stuff that tends to drop from the sky, but a stop in a field of flowers on occasion when you can is also a nice touch at other times. #3 I assume you already pre-warm her car on cold days - which is even appreciated down here when it drops down below 50. #4 Once more, being retired makes it easier, but I take flowers to her office every week, and we date every Friday, complete with my asking her out like I did when we were dating. Sometimes that is at home with a nice set up and a dinner I cook or one we cook together. As many have discovered, what you invest your time and interest in becomes what you love [that is even biblical...]. That investment in your spouse is even more important than the invested time / energy / money in your Benz. To turn around the often used phrase, when momma is happy, everybody is happy - especially me. By the way, I'm getting mine an immersion stick blender. Not especially romantic [I think I have that convered already] and cheap enough, but something she wants [I listen to her], and a hand made card is easy and cheap, and means you cared more than walking into a store and buying the first card you saw. Good Luck - BillR BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Speaking of trained: Can someone give me an idea as to what to get my wife for valentines (actually our first-date-anniversary is on the 12th and this seems to be what we really celebrate). Bear in mind that I literally don't have any money to play with right now. You have your challenge, men. Brian On 2/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, doesn't Danika have a team of men changing her tires? Yes Jim - no interest in changing the arrangement. It's one of the subtle ways they exercise their power. Like when they ask you how they look. Funny how they want your opinion on how they look before you go out, but she thinks that she has to dress you because you're incompetent to do so. I have set a precedent early on in our relationship in that I am pretty honest most of the time in response to this question. You've to to train them, you see. Brian On 2/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! - Valentines suggetions
BillR, Toni says YOU ARE A SWEETIE!! She saysI bet his wife is happier than shit with that, I know I would be. Now I'm in trouble.LOLOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! - Valentines suggetions Brian - 1st, keep in mind that I am retired and an early riser - and enjoy the physical contact. #1 My bride of 32 years would rather stay up late and sleep until noon, but has to leave for work by 7:30 AM. One of the things I have done for her is become her alarm clock for a time - only I use a back rub. 10 - 20 minutes every morning. We both enjoyed it enough that it lasted for a year [4 months out now because of botched surgery and a fall breaking her humerus in 5 places, and she still can't relax on her stomach]. I'd suggest a week to start. I also found lotion with the fragrance of her favorite perfume [pretty cheap on eBay], but that does start to cost. #2 Another cheap and appreciated thing is flowers. Where I live there are flowers in the yard year around [had to take a foot off some Impatients last week], and one in an appropriate container in her car in the morning is a nice touch. That won't work this time of year for many because of that pesky white stuff that tends to drop from the sky, but a stop in a field of flowers on occasion when you can is also a nice touch at other times. #3 I assume you already pre-warm her car on cold days - which is even appreciated down here when it drops down below 50. #4 Once more, being retired makes it easier, but I take flowers to her office every week, and we date every Friday, complete with my asking her out like I did when we were dating. Sometimes that is at home with a nice set up and a dinner I cook or one we cook together. As many have discovered, what you invest your time and interest in becomes what you love [that is even biblical...]. That investment in your spouse is even more important than the invested time / energy / money in your Benz. To turn around the often used phrase, when momma is happy, everybody is happy - especially me. By the way, I'm getting mine an immersion stick blender. Not especially romantic [I think I have that convered already] and cheap enough, but something she wants [I listen to her], and a hand made card is easy and cheap, and means you cared more than walking into a store and buying the first card you saw. Good Luck - BillR BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Speaking of trained: Can someone give me an idea as to what to get my wife for valentines (actually our first-date-anniversary is on the 12th and this seems to be what we really celebrate). Bear in mind that I literally don't have any money to play with right now. You have your challenge, men. Brian On 2/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, doesn't Danika have a team of men changing her tires? Yes Jim - no interest in changing the arrangement. It's one of the subtle ways they exercise their power. Like when they ask you how they look. Funny how they want your opinion on how they look before you go out, but she thinks that she has to dress you because you're incompetent to do so. I have set a precedent early on in our relationship in that I am pretty honest most of the time in response to this question. You've to to train them, you see. Brian On 2/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! - Valentines suggetions
Wow, Bill. Very nice. Thanks much! Brian On 2/10/07, Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian - 1st, keep in mind that I am retired and an early riser - and enjoy the physical contact. #1 My bride of 32 years would rather stay up late and sleep until noon, but has to leave for work by 7:30 AM. One of the things I have done for her is become her alarm clock for a time - only I use a back rub. 10 - 20 minutes every morning. We both enjoyed it enough that it lasted for a year [4 months out now because of botched surgery and a fall breaking her humerus in 5 places, and she still can't relax on her stomach]. I'd suggest a week to start. I also found lotion with the fragrance of her favorite perfume [pretty cheap on eBay], but that does start to cost. #2 Another cheap and appreciated thing is flowers. Where I live there are flowers in the yard year around [had to take a foot off some Impatients last week], and one in an appropriate container in her car in the morning is a nice touch. That won't work this time of year for many because of that pesky white stuff that tends to drop from the sky, but a stop in a field of flowers on occasion when you can is also a nice touch at other times. #3 I assume you already pre-warm her car on cold days - which is even appreciated down here when it drops down below 50. #4 Once more, being retired makes it easier, but I take flowers to her office every week, and we date every Friday, complete with my asking her out like I did when we were dating. Sometimes that is at home with a nice set up and a dinner I cook or one we cook together. As many have discovered, what you invest your time and interest in becomes what you love [that is even biblical...]. That investment in your spouse is even more important than the invested time / energy / money in your Benz. To turn around the often used phrase, when momma is happy, everybody is happy - especially me. By the way, I'm getting mine an immersion stick blender. Not especially romantic [I think I have that convered already] and cheap enough, but something she wants [I listen to her], and a hand made card is easy and cheap, and means you cared more than walking into a store and buying the first card you saw. Good Luck - BillR BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Speaking of trained: Can someone give me an idea as to what to get my wife for valentines (actually our first-date-anniversary is on the 12th and this seems to be what we really celebrate). Bear in mind that I literally don't have any money to play with right now. You have your challenge, men. Brian On 2/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, doesn't Danika have a team of men changing her tires? Yes Jim - no interest in changing the arrangement. It's one of the subtle ways they exercise their power. Like when they ask you how they look. Funny how they want your opinion on how they look before you go out, but she thinks that she has to dress you because you're incompetent to do so. I have set a precedent early on in our relationship in that I am pretty honest most of the time in response to this question. You've to to train them, you see. Brian On 2/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! - Valentines suggetions
LOLOLOLO Make your choices and have fun. Works for me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! - Valentines suggetions Though the local chapter of the Playa's Union is saying: Comon, Dawg, wee need to talk! Brian Playas Union - taking back manhood in the 21st century On 2/10/07, Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian - 1st, keep in mind that I am retired and an early riser - and enjoy the physical contact. #1 My bride of 32 years would rather stay up late and sleep until noon, but has to leave for work by 7:30 AM. One of the things I have done for her is become her alarm clock for a time - only I use a back rub. 10 - 20 minutes every morning. We both enjoyed it enough that it lasted for a year [4 months out now because of botched surgery and a fall breaking her humerus in 5 places, and she still can't relax on her stomach]. I'd suggest a week to start. I also found lotion with the fragrance of her favorite perfume [pretty cheap on eBay], but that does start to cost. #2 Another cheap and appreciated thing is flowers. Where I live there are flowers in the yard year around [had to take a foot off some Impatients last week], and one in an appropriate container in her car in the morning is a nice touch. That won't work this time of year for many because of that pesky white stuff that tends to drop from the sky, but a stop in a field of flowers on occasion when you can is also a nice touch at other times. #3 I assume you already pre-warm her car on cold days - which is even appreciated down here when it drops down below 50. #4 Once more, being retired makes it easier, but I take flowers to her office every week, and we date every Friday, complete with my asking her out like I did when we were dating. Sometimes that is at home with a nice set up and a dinner I cook or one we cook together. As many have discovered, what you invest your time and interest in becomes what you love [that is even biblical...]. That investment in your spouse is even more important than the invested time / energy / money in your Benz. To turn around the often used phrase, when momma is happy, everybody is happy - especially me. By the way, I'm getting mine an immersion stick blender. Not especially romantic [I think I have that convered already] and cheap enough, but something she wants [I listen to her], and a hand made card is easy and cheap, and means you cared more than walking into a store and buying the first card you saw. Good Luck - BillR BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Speaking of trained: Can someone give me an idea as to what to get my wife for valentines (actually our first-date-anniversary is on the 12th and this seems to be what we really celebrate). Bear in mind that I literally don't have any money to play with right now. You have your challenge, men. Brian On 2/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, doesn't Danika have a team of men changing her tires? Yes Jim - no interest in changing the arrangement. It's one of the subtle ways they exercise their power. Like when they ask you how they look. Funny how they want your opinion on how they look before you go out, but she thinks that she has to dress you because you're incompetent to do so. I have set a precedent early on in our relationship in that I am pretty honest most of the time in response to this question. You've to to train them, you see. Brian On 2/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever learning how. Aggressively so. There are, of course, exceptions, but they are few and far between. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman
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Just like most men are happy to have women cook for them (myself included - even though I am comfortable working in the kitchen). On 2/8/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My friend Steve (actually our former landlord for the office) tells of one of his granddaughters arguing that she could do anything he could do but better. She was probably 18 to 20 at the time. He suggested they step outside and see who could pee the furthest. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sure, each gender tends to play a role, and responsibilities are worked out within the relationship. I take out the trash and she changes the sheets on the bed. We never verbally worked this out. We each really cook for ourselves, but I hate to tell you, she (wifey) shows more proclivity for cooking, and I have none. If she finds herself cooking for me, she gets very defensive, but she still finds herself doing it once in a while despite the fact that I have NEVER asked her to do so. Gender differences is all I'm sayin' - like it or not. But I'm speaking to the ineptitude that women naturally have for understanding the way mechanical things work. Yes, physical strength comes into play, but setting that aside, the majority of women literally do not know how to change a tire. Fun stuff. Brian On 2/9/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like most men are happy to have women cook for them (myself included - even though I am comfortable working in the kitchen). On 2/8/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I never got into such a contest, but I'm told if I ever do not to agree to a 'no use of hands' rule. We would all lose. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! My friend Steve (actually our former landlord for the office) tells of one of his granddaughters arguing that she could do anything he could do but better. She was probably 18 to 20 at the time. He suggested they step outside and see who could pee the furthest. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've had better luck teaching my 80 Y.O. mother to use the computer! I'm amazed sometimes, its like trying to teach my mother to use the computer. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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Oh I've had good luck teaching my 86 y.o. grandmother. My mom however is a mad clicker. I'll say Click on my 'computer' for instance. Before I can finish the sentence she's got the recycle bin open, the start button is open and for some unexplained reason music is playing. She's probably clicked 500 times... And she gets mad that I find that frustrating. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:32:57 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I've had better luck teaching my 80 Y.O. mother to use the computer! I'm amazed sometimes, its like trying to teach my mother to use the computer. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 08 14:43:31 2007 Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([208.3.80.17] helo=mail.cnsp.biz) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HFAUl-0003Oh-Eq for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:43:31 + Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91CE4A6078 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:42:52 -0700 (MST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cnsp.biz Received: from mail.cnsp.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cnsp.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uRCZCvCzyZxd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:42:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-31.cnsp.net [208.3.82.31]) by mail.cnsp.biz (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF1B49CED5 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:42:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:42:51 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:43:31 - On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:51:21 -0600 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's going to be tough considering that China alone plans on building an additional 2,200 coal plants by 2030. Oh, but because China (like India) is exempt from Kyoto as a developing country, the West will just have to reduce its own emissions even more. From a commenter on an aggregating website, Envirowackos have kept this country from building a single power plant in the last decade -- while China is building twenty-two hundred coal burning power plants. And China couldn't care less about pollution controls. But you never hear a peep about China from the Gorebots. Their hypocrisy and anti-Americanism is getting old fast.
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My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So my wife calls The truck won't turn. WHAT? What in hell could be wrong. Well, in fact the truck won't start, she ment the truck won't turn over. Now she claims this is what she said last weekend when the transmission was messed up. Anyway I ask her do the lights come on? Sure all lights are a go, the truck had just stalled and now won't restart. Did she try to restart in the road? Yes but now she's pulled over in park. Oh, well it won't restart in drive, but now she's in park. Put it in neutral we've had trouble with the neutral safety switch but its like once a month so I haven't bothered to mess with it. Truck starts right up. We've been through this like twenty times, she knows what the neutral safety switch is, knows its failing or out of adjustment or whatever, KNOWS the fix just can't think to do it on her own... I'm amazed sometimes, its like trying to teach my mother to use the computer. -Curt - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 07 15:36:02 2007 Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.229.99]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEoq2-0003Cy-AH for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:36:02 + Received: (qmail 58815 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2007 15:35:21 - Received: from unknown (HELO Sawyer) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@68.88.140.102 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2007 15:35:20 - X-YMail-OSG: .rBjnCoVM1kLVBKz57I3nzic54Es.0jvATcjJNCt8ieb1W9J0PTXMCfa2WuRdzqcUhAx9dTX3.u5Yylm6oesuzGWqsEH3coKzq00AY8SwGvjFMoLO2_78g-- Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allen Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:35:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] 83 300D turbo. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:36:02 - During one recent moment of insanity, I purchased a 300D with 345K miles = on the odometer. Among many problems, the rubber boots were broken on = the axle shafts. A friend stated that he had the boot kits and wanted = to put them on. He installed the necessary hardware at a shop, but two = problems remain. First, how much grease is placed inside; each kit = appears to have two tubes of lubricant. Second, he wanted to weld the = metal pieces together, but that would destroy the rubber O-ring. We = both had the original shop manuals at one time but mine went with a 83 = 300TD that I sold, and his went with a wrecked 83 300D that he recently = sold. Any help would be appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 07 15:36:17 2007 Received: from postal.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.12] helo=mail.windwireless.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEoqH-0003DC-Gj for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:36:17 + Received: from windwireless.net (unverified [206.63.94.197]) by windwireless.net (WindPostal) with ESMTP id 1735803 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:50:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:35:38 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-412260344 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You realize this is somehow your fault, right? Bob R. - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! So my wife calls The truck won't turn. WHAT? What in hell could be wrong. Well, in fact the truck won't start, she ment the truck won't turn over. Now she claims this is what she said last weekend when the transmission was messed up. Anyway I ask her do the lights come on? Sure all lights are a go, the truck had just stalled and now won't restart. Did she try to restart in the road? Yes but now she's pulled over in park. Oh, well it won't restart in drive, but now she's in park. Put it in neutral we've had trouble with the neutral safety switch but its like once a month so I haven't bothered to mess with it. Truck starts right up. We've been through this like twenty times, she knows what the neutral safety switch is, knows its failing or out of adjustment or whatever, KNOWS the fix just can't think to do it on her own... I'm amazed sometimes, its like trying to teach my mother to use the computer. -Curt - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Absolutely, one more event like that and I'll replace the stupid switch just to save my own sanity... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:37:32 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original You realize this is somehow your fault, right? Bob R. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 07 16:29:45 2007 Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEpg0-0006aU-Q4 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:29:45 + Received: from WFlaptop ([151.204.21.139]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:25:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:21:47 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:29:45 - That does sound like tight valves, keeping the compression too low to build up enough heat to combust the fuel. And yes, with everything working properly (glow system, fuel, battery) I still believe that 10 seconds is plenty long enough (I get concerned if I don't hear the engine fire up after 3 revolutions, which isn't very long at all). My JD4100 (1 liter, 3 cyl Diesel) which doesn't get run often in the winter, may take 5-8 revolutions to fire up, which still is probably only 5 seconds or so! And it has no block heater, and the battery is 5 years old. Werner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs? The car is a 300D, we don't have a garage, so it sits by the curb. It was 8 F (-14 C?) and had not been plugged in at all, should the 5-10 second crank before still hold true? The fuel is from the same location as the OM606 that started without issue, the GP relay was replaced within the past 14 mos (due to the old one being filled with water--the O-ring between the two halves of the unit was broken along the side where it mounts, so it could pull in water via cappilary action), and the GP's were replaced shortly before the relay. I suspect a couple of valves may be tight. I put the battery on charge (but did not plug in the block heater) and went out ~8-10 hours later, when it was up to 18 F and it did start, although it did require cranking while firing (approx 20-30 secs) until it ran smoothly. I'm going to check the valves this weekend. -j. - Original message -- From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would think that an engine requiring more than 5-10 seconds of cranking is in need of something else - like properly operating glow plugs, or ungelled or not ice-blocked fuel. I'm assuming you've been regularly putting decent fuel in the tank, so that should be winterized in this zone; that leaves glow plugs - fuses, controls, and lastly, the plugs themselves.
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
I know this thread is supposed to feed into a larger gender stereotype about chicks not getting car stuff, but having worked as a mechanic in the past, I can tell you that there are a vast vast vast number of men out there who are equally or more clueless about these matters. In some way they're actually worse, since as men, they feel social pressure to know car stuff, but lack the capacity to adequately hide their ignorance, and come off sounding really stoopid in the process. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (222k) '84 300D (219k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) '89 Audi 90Q (202k) '94 Audi 100CS Quattro Avant (117k) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
Yeah, and you know, wimmins may have some faults but they are still sort of nice to keep around, don't you think? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! I know this thread is supposed to feed into a larger gender stereotype about chicks not getting car stuff, but having worked as a mechanic in the past, I can tell you that there are a vast vast vast number of men out there who are equally or more clueless about these matters. In some way they're actually worse, since as men, they feel social pressure to know car stuff, but lack the capacity to adequately hide their ignorance, and come off sounding really stoopid in the process. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (222k) '84 300D (219k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) '89 Audi 90Q (202k) '94 Audi 100CS Quattro Avant (117k) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
