[MBZ] computer question no mb
Here's a question for those of you that know the intricate workings in computers. I have a computer that has a ASUS A7V-VE motherboard and an Athlon XP1800 + (AX1800DMT3C) CPU. It started having problems a while back and I just set it aside. I had a few moments today to play with it, so I set it up and turned it on. I think it has some motherboad problems because if I plug an IDE cable into the master connector it either won't recognize the drive is there, or will hang the system. I can take the same ribbon lead and drive plugged into the slave IDE connector and it works fine. At the same time the video seems to have some sort of intermittant connection as it flickers and rolls intermittantly. Sometimes pressing or tapping various places on the M/B seems to either correct the video or make it worse. My question is...is this just caused by a bad M/B or can it be a problem with the CPU? I can get a M/B from PC Liquidators that should work with the CPU for about $30 but that M/B takes DDR memory instead of the PC100 that the ASUS now uses, so I don't want to invest money in another M/B and memory to re-use the CPU if the CPU is faulty. It appears to me from the info that I have been able to dig up that the IDE functions are controlled by the chipset, but I wanted to make sure. I appreciate any info that you folks might have. Barry
Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb
On 1/2/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes pressing or tapping various places on the M/B seems to either correct the video or make it worse. Sounds to me a little like the board may have been damaged, most likely with the addition or removal of a PC card. If pressing or tapping causes a changes it means the print paths have breaks in them. When you replace the board, make absolutely sure you use *all* the motherboard stand offs the board has holes for, they are there to properly support it. In fact, I've taken to adding non conductive / static free foam (similar to what the board sits on when new, but usually that isn't thick enough for support use) underneath all the ATX machines I work on for friends / family / servers to provide even more support. I've cracked two boards completely in half because they were not properly supported and like an idiot I was pressing down to get the card to seat and *snap* Check out both http://www.geeks.com and http://www.newegg.com .. Geeks sells refurbed and used stuff mostly, and they do not currently have a board that will accept your RAM but they have new stock all the time. Or, you could take this opportunity to upgrade to a new Mac -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb
Your board might be grounding out, power supply is bad or your BIOS is corrupt (Or all of the above). Try taking the motherboard out of the case and place it on a non conductive surface such as a wood board. Plug just the power supply, CPU and memory in. Boot. If a go then go to another computer and download and burn MemTestx86 to a bootable CD or floppy. Attach either drive and boot, run the memtest for a few hours. If no errors then you know you are good so far. Download your newest BIOS from your MB website. Wipe out the existing CMOS according to the exact manual instructions. Reinstall BIOS. Start plugging things in one at a time. Make sure your HD has the correct jumper settings, also if you have another hard disk plug it in the master IDE slot to test to see if the problem is specific to your disk. If you get everything running well outside of the case that means your board is for sure grounding out. Place plastic washers in-between the metal screw mounts in the computer case and the board. Make sure nothing on the board is touching anything metal on the case. GL. Report back when done. A few tips. The power supply and RAM are the two components of the PC where you want to drop the most money and get quality parts, as they are the most volatile components. If you need to buy a new power supply, get an Antec. If you need new RAM, run memtestx86 on it to make sure it is indeed compatible with your board so you can return it. If you drop a few extra bucks on these two components your computer will run very stable regardless of OS. Nick 82 300 SD (Dead tranny, if you have one I want it!) 2005 Infiniti G35 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] computer question no mb Here's a question for those of you that know the intricate workings in computers. I have a computer that has a ASUS A7V-VE motherboard and an Athlon XP1800 + (AX1800DMT3C) CPU. It started having problems a while back and I just set it aside. I had a few moments today to play with it, so I set it up and turned it on. I think it has some motherboad problems because if I plug an IDE cable into the master connector it either won't recognize the drive is there, or will hang the system. I can take the same ribbon lead and drive plugged into the slave IDE connector and it works fine. At the same time the video seems to have some sort of intermittant connection as it flickers and rolls intermittantly. Sometimes pressing or tapping various places on the M/B seems to either correct the video or make it worse. My question is...is this just caused by a bad M/B or can it be a problem with the CPU? I can get a M/B from PC Liquidators that should work with the CPU for about $30 but that M/B takes DDR memory instead of the PC100 that the ASUS now uses, so I don't want to invest money in another M/B and memory to re-use the CPU if the CPU is faulty. It appears to me from the info that I have been able to dig up that the IDE functions are controlled by the chipset, but I wanted to make sure. I appreciate any info that you folks might have. Barry ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Upgrade ... to a new Mac? LOL (Laughing Out Loud) Sorry, couldn't help myself. Mac's are great machines. I'd own one if I could purchase all of the software I run for a Mac at a reasonable price. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb On 1/2/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes pressing or tapping various places on the M/B seems to either correct the video or make it worse. Sounds to me a little like the board may have been damaged, most likely with the addition or removal of a PC card. If pressing or tapping causes a changes it means the print paths have breaks in them. When you replace the board, make absolutely sure you use *all* the motherboard stand offs the board has holes for, they are there to properly support it. In fact, I've taken to adding non conductive / static free foam (similar to what the board sits on when new, but usually that isn't thick enough for support use) underneath all the ATX machines I work on for friends / family / servers to provide even more support. I've cracked two boards completely in half because they were not properly supported and like an idiot I was pressing down to get the card to seat and *snap* Check out both http://www.geeks.com and http://www.newegg.com .. Geeks sells refurbed and used stuff mostly, and they do not currently have a board that will accept your RAM but they have new stock all the time. Or, you could take this opportunity to upgrade to a new Mac -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Microsoft has a version of Virtual PC for the MAC so you can run Windows on it and continue contributing to the Bill Gates retirement fund. -Dave Walton On 1/2/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upgrade ... to a new Mac? LOL (Laughing Out Loud) Sorry, couldn't help myself. Mac's are great machines. I'd own one if I could purchase all of the software I run for a Mac at a reasonable price. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb On 1/2/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes pressing or tapping various places on the M/B seems to either correct the video or make it worse. Sounds to me a little like the board may have been damaged, most likely with the addition or removal of a PC card. If pressing or tapping causes a changes it means the print paths have breaks in them. When you replace the board, make absolutely sure you use *all* the motherboard stand offs the board has holes for, they are there to properly support it. In fact, I've taken to adding non conductive / static free foam (similar to what the board sits on when new, but usually that isn't thick enough for support use) underneath all the ATX machines I work on for friends / family / servers to provide even more support. I've cracked two boards completely in half because they were not properly supported and like an idiot I was pressing down to get the card to seat and *snap* Check out both http://www.geeks.com and http://www.newegg.com .. Geeks sells refurbed and used stuff mostly, and they do not currently have a board that will accept your RAM but they have new stock all the time. Or, you could take this opportunity to upgrade to a new Mac -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Might not be a bad idea if he would actually retire. How much more $$$ does he actually need to supplement his Social Security Check? dave walton wrote: Microsoft has a version of Virtual PC for the MAC so you can run Windows on it and continue contributing to the Bill Gates retirement fund. -Dave Walton On 1/2/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upgrade ... to a new Mac? LOL (Laughing Out Loud) Sorry, couldn't help myself. Mac's are great machines. I'd own one if I could purchase all of the software I run for a Mac at a reasonable price. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb On 1/2/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes pressing or tapping various places on the M/B seems to either correct the video or make it worse. Sounds to me a little like the board may have been damaged, most likely with the addition or removal of a PC card. If pressing or tapping causes a changes it means the print paths have breaks in them. When you replace the board, make absolutely sure you use *all* the motherboard stand offs the board has holes for, they are there to properly support it. In fact, I've taken to adding non conductive / static free foam (similar to what the board sits on when new, but usually that isn't thick enough for support use) underneath all the ATX machines I work on for friends / family / servers to provide even more support. I've cracked two boards completely in half because they were not properly supported and like an idiot I was pressing down to get the card to seat and *snap* Check out both http://www.geeks.com and http://www.newegg.com .. Geeks sells refurbed and used stuff mostly, and they do not currently have a board that will accept your RAM but they have new stock all the time. Or, you could take this opportunity to upgrade to a new Mac -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
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Lee Einer wrote: Might not be a bad idea if he would actually retire. How much more $$$ does he actually need to supplement his Social Security Check? I would have retired long ago, in his position, but his sort is a different breed. I remember a reporter asking Michael Dell (founder of Dell Computer) why he didn't retire and just enjoy all the wealth he'd accumulated. He said, Do you have any idea how much fun it is to run a multi-million-dollar corporation?
Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb
Well next week when apple starts shipping intel based macs it becomes *much* easier to run windows at native speeds on macs. Oh I'll give folks about a week to figure out how to dual boot. On 2-Jan-06, at 6:12 PM, dave walton wrote: Microsoft has a version of Virtual PC for the MAC so you can run Windows on it and continue contributing to the Bill Gates retirement fund. -Dave Walton On 1/2/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upgrade ... to a new Mac? LOL (Laughing Out Loud) Sorry, couldn't help myself. Mac's are great machines. I'd own one if I could purchase all of the software I run for a Mac at a reasonable price. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com John 1983 300TDt 360k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 158k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] computer question no mb
On 1/3/06, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well next week when apple starts shipping intel based macs it becomes *much* easier to run windows at native speeds on macs. Oh I'll give folks about a week to figure out how to dual boot. A week? I give it about 15 minutes, personally. 15 minutes after the Intel Mac ships, I'll let you know how many Systems I have on it. ;) -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
