Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1978 W123 coupe on MB Market

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Where do people find these things? 

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> On Apr 19, 2023, at 6:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Has the luxurious burlwood dash.
> https://thembmarket.com/1978-mercedes-benz-280ce-2
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[MBZ] Droolworthy 1978 W123 coupe on MB Market

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Has the luxurious burlwood dash.
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Wow. I never saw one of these.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 5:03 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> And yet this absolutely stunning car sits at three days and $20k:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1959-mercedes-benz-190-db-binz-kombi/ <
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1959-mercedes-benz-190-db-binz-kombi/>
>
> I am in lust.
>
> -D
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Holy! $16k and RNM. That’s nuts! $16,000 was a good price for that car.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Whoops! $15k. Dang. There are some very nice things about this car,
> like perfect bumpers, dash pad, clean undercarriage, etc.
> >>
> >> Wonder where it will end up? $20k?
> >>
> >> The BaT crack is kicking in.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Getting close. 15 minutes and it’s up to $14k.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  That’s implied, of course.
> 
>  -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <
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> >
> > Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain
> Jane car. Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still
> thinking below $15k.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
> >>
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And yet this absolutely stunning car sits at three days and $20k:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1959-mercedes-benz-190-db-binz-kombi/ 


I am in lust.

-D




> On Feb 10, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Holy! $16k and RNM. That’s nuts! $16,000 was a good price for that car.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Whoops! $15k. Dang. There are some very nice things about this car, like 
>> perfect bumpers, dash pad, clean undercarriage, etc.
>> 
>> Wonder where it will end up? $20k?
>> 
>> The BaT crack is kicking in.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Getting close. 15 minutes and it’s up to $14k.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That’s implied, of course.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
> wrote:
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> Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane 
> car. Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still 
> thinking below $15k.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Holy! $16k and RNM. That’s nuts! $16,000 was a good price for that car.

-D


> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Whoops! $15k. Dang. There are some very nice things about this car, like 
> perfect bumpers, dash pad, clean undercarriage, etc.
> 
> Wonder where it will end up? $20k?
> 
> The BaT crack is kicking in.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Getting close. 15 minutes and it’s up to $14k.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s implied, of course.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
 wrote:
 
 Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".
 
 On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane 
 car. Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still thinking 
 below $15k.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Whoops! $15k. Dang. There are some very nice things about this car, like 
perfect bumpers, dash pad, clean undercarriage, etc.

Wonder where it will end up? $20k?

The BaT crack is kicking in.

-D



> On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Getting close. 15 minutes and it’s up to $14k.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s implied, of course.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane 
>>> car. Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still thinking 
>>> below $15k.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
 
 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Getting close. 15 minutes and it’s up to $14k.

-D


> On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s implied, of course.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane car. 
>> Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still thinking below 
>> $15k.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s implied, of course.

-D


> On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane car. 
> Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still thinking below 
> $15k.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
> > 
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

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Plus the restoration lacks the cachet of being a "Penoff".

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane
> car. Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still thinking
> below $15k.
>
> -D
>
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> > On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would guess sub $15k. It’s a very nice example, but it’s a plain Jane car. 
Granted, the BaT crack can be strong at times, but I’m still thinking below 
$15k.

-D


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> This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.
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[MBZ] Droolworthy 200 finnie on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This will sell at a very stupid price, probably over $20k.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-10
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Even I knew that - from bitter experience.

We drove the 1973 280 all the way from D.C. to Cincinnati.  As we got off
the interstate, the oil pressure dropped precipitously.  I reached into the
glove box and frantically called one of the Friends of MBCA listed in the
booklet that the Club handed out in those days (1983).  I had a brief
conversation with a Club member and he informed me that this was entirely
normal - under load the needle needs to be pinned but at idle or cruising
it is permitted to slack off.

A good time was had by all after this misadventure and needless diversion.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:48 AM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I read the manual on my 450SL (D-jet) and it said that a drop to half bar
> at idle was standard (when new).  AS long as pressure returns to 3 bar when
> you drive, all is well.
>
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> > On Dec 21, 2016, at 5:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> > The M117 engine is very robust, and will run a LONG time with the oil
> > pressure at that level. I didn't see much drop at all with 105F days and
> > A/C running in the M117 in the '78 450SLC. The oil pressure is not an
> > issue, at all.
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> >
> >> In theory, yes, its in spec, but for how much longer?  And what happens
> >> when its 105 outside and you have the AC on?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
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> >
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> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[clay via Mercedes]

I read the manual on my 450SL (D-jet) and it said that a drop to half bar at 
idle was standard (when new).  AS long as pressure returns to 3 bar when you 
drive, all is well.



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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 5:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The M117 engine is very robust, and will run a LONG time with the oil
> pressure at that level. I didn't see much drop at all with 105F days and
> A/C running in the M117 in the '78 450SLC. The oil pressure is not an
> issue, at all.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> In theory, yes, its in spec, but for how much longer?  And what happens
>> when its 105 outside and you have the AC on?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, what MMM said - pegging the gauge is the more important test than the
idle pressure in an MB engine.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:02 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> As for the oil pressure...I'd be more worried if it doesn't pin when
> revved.
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

What, you don't like headrests?

As for the oil pressure...I'd be more worried if it doesn't pin when
revved.

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> Oh those seats... and that oil pressure... no thank you!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>
> > Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price.
> >
> > Wilton?
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The M117 engine is very robust, and will run a LONG time with the oil
pressure at that level. I didn't see much drop at all with 105F days and
A/C running in the M117 in the '78 450SLC. The oil pressure is not an
issue, at all.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In theory, yes, its in spec, but for how much longer?  And what happens
> when its 105 outside and you have the AC on?
>
>
>
>


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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

In theory, yes, its in spec, but for how much longer?  And what happens
when its 105 outside and you have the AC on?



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> The oil pressure is probably not a problem, looks like it's in spec to me.
> I hate it when people redo the seats with crappy aftermarket generic
> upholstery. I would rather have worn out original.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Oh those seats... and that oil pressure... no thank you!
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price.
> >>
> >> Wilton?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The oil pressure is probably not a problem, looks like it's in spec to me. I 
hate it when people redo the seats with crappy aftermarket generic upholstery. 
I would rather have worn out original.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> Oh those seats... and that oil pressure... no thank you!
> 
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price.
>> 
>> Wilton?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

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Oh those seats... and that oil pressure... no thank you!

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> Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price.
>
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Due to lack of a sunroof this may sell at a reasonable price.

Wilton?

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy BWM '69 bike

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I also could have bought a primo 1948 Cadillac convertible for $400.  But
who had that amount of money in those days?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> You shoulda kept the R26.  They bring good money now.
> I knew there was some reason I like ya!
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> November 30, 2016 at 9:53 AM
>> I drove an R26 in college. This one is VERY nice.
>>
>> http://bringatrailer.com/2016/11/29/green-orange-airhead-550
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy BWM '69 bike

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You shoulda kept the R26.  They bring good money now.
I knew there was some reason I like ya!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
November 30, 2016 at 9:53 AM
I drove an R26 in college. This one is VERY nice.

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I drove an R26 in college.  This one is VERY nice.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1976 RR Silver Shadow with 9800 miles on BAT

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One of these was sitting at a local Indies for months. Price: $28,xxx.xx
Cost of brake job: $4000.
An RR is like a spoiled and beautiful woman. Many can obtain one; few can 
support one.
Gerry

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:28:54 -0400
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> " car does not suffer from a sagging rear end"
> 
> I guess I won't name it H->illary!
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
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> > this car   one of these days.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1976 RR Silver Shadow with 9800 miles on BAT

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ON the H=> bat, everything sags, especially the polls.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
September 2, 2016 at 12:28 PM
" car does not suffer from a sagging rear end"

I guess I won't name it H->illary!

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1976 RR Silver Shadow with 9800 miles on BAT

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Or Drumpf - has anyone seen his?

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> " car does not suffer from a sagging rear end"
>
> I guess I won't name it H->illary!
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 9/2/16 1:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Currently bid up to $12k - wonder where it will end?  I absolutely MUST
>> own
>> this car   one of these days.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1976 RR Silver Shadow with 9800 miles on BAT

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" car does not suffer from a sagging rear end"

I guess I won't name it H->illary!

--FT


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Currently bid up to $12k - wonder where it will end?  I absolutely MUST own
this car   one of these days.

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Currently bid up to $12k - wonder where it will end?  I absolutely MUST own
this car   one of these days.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

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Look carefully those front seats are pretty poorly done and don't match
the original leather in the rear at all.

The colors, however, are outstanding!

Jaime


On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

 The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
 either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

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Good call Hawkeye Jaime.
On May 21, 2015 9:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Look carefully those front seats are pretty poorly done and don't match
 the original leather in the rear at all.

 The colors, however, are outstanding!

 Jaime


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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
 
  The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
  either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*current bid for this one is $6100 - well worth that considering the
rapidly escalating cost of collector cost...*

Cost of collector cost?

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:51 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 I owned a identical SE except mine was dark green - man, I loved that car
 - still love the W108 design and the build quality was what made MB famous
 in my opinion.   The 4.5 was a great engine but i couldn't handle the
 14-15mpg on a good day along with the high cost of replacement parts.   But
 if i could afford another I'd buy one in a second.  current bid for this
 one is $6100 - well worth that considering the rapidly escalating cost of
 collector cost...

 LarryT
 78 240D
 91 300D

 On 5/20/2015 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

 The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
 either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I owned a identical SE except mine was dark green - man, I loved that 
car - still love the W108 design and the build quality was what made MB 
famous in my opinion.   The 4.5 was a great engine but i couldn't handle 
the 14-15mpg on a good day along with the high cost of replacement 
parts.   But if i could afford another I'd buy one in a second.  current 
bid for this one is $6100 - well worth that considering the rapidly 
escalating cost of collector cost...


LarryT
78 240D
91 300D

On 5/20/2015 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL/301636619038?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131003150253%26meid%3Dba32d8628480461b83809f106902a5fe%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D371326989381
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.


The Italians call it Celeste:
http://velospace.org/node/42550

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[MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL/301636619038?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131003150253%26meid%3Dba32d8628480461b83809f106902a5fe%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D371326989381
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I don't think so.
My 79 240D was silver green and it was not  this yellowish green. I forget
what this is called.
On May 20, 2015 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?

 What do the others think?

 http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi

 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
  I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
 
 
  The Italians call it Celeste:
  http://velospace.org/node/42550
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

The E320 I bought from Kleb was either spruce green or emerald green 
metallic (249/269).  I liked it better than any other green.  It was a 
nice looking car.


It was not as dark as Midnight Blue metallic, but getting close.


My 1997 S420 in 269U is as dark as my 1999 E320 in Midnight Blue.

I saw a 200x E320 advertised as Aspen Green that's probably the color of yours.
Had dark tan interior, maybe saddle? That's my favorite color combo, but I have 
grown to like parchment over midnight blue too. I just like a richer color 
leather on a green car than the usual pale parchment/mushroom/etc. (my S420 is 
mushroom)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?

What do the others think?

http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.


 The Italians call it Celeste:
 http://velospace.org/node/42550

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice shape, but yeah I noticed the same issue under the hood, plus the
engine is rather dirty - need's Martha work.

Too bad it is missing a pedal...

If one were in the market, this would be toward the end of the best
example you can afford.

-
Max
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On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

 The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
 either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL/301636619038?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131003150253%26meid%3Dba32d8628480461b83809f106902a5fe%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D371326989381
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

Looks like Caledonia on my monitor but maybe that wasn't a color for this year. 
Also looks just like Norma's Benz on Bates Motel...

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 On May 20, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On the color charts for that year these two seem to be the closest.  Unless
 the PO repainted it to a non-standard color...
 
 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I don't think so.
 My 79 240D was silver green and it was not  this yellowish green. I forget
 what this is called.
 On May 20, 2015 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?
 
 What do the others think?
 
 http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi
 
 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
 
 The Italians call it Celeste:
 http://velospace.org/node/42550
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

On the color charts for that year these two seem to be the closest.  Unless
the PO repainted it to a non-standard color...

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I don't think so.
 My 79 240D was silver green and it was not  this yellowish green. I forget
 what this is called.
 On May 20, 2015 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?
 
  What do the others think?
 
  http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi
 
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  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
  
   I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
  
  
   The Italians call it Celeste:
   http://velospace.org/node/42550
  
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Mitch Sez:

What I really like is the color of the green 
Porch visible in some of the pics. That's my 
idea of a green car, although I must say 269U 
(emerald green in USA, turmalingrün in der 
homeland) is starting to grow on me.


The E320 I bought from Kleb was either spruce 
green or emerald green metallic (249/269).  I 
liked it better than any other green.  It was a 
nice looking car.


It was not as dark as Midnight Blue metallic, but getting close.


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?


I always thought Silbergrün was silver with a greenish tint to it.

What I really like is the color of the green Porch visible in some of the pics. 
That's my idea of a green car, although I must say 269U (emerald green in USA, 
turmalingrün in der homeland) is starting to grow on me.


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[andrew strasfogel]

Both my wagons have a third seat, the 1983 300TD with the three point
harness seatbelts and the 1985 with aftermarket 3rd seat with lap
belts.  This is slightly ironic since I don't even have a dog to ride
back there.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan Penoff wrote:

 I can't speak for an 85 model, but my 1979 300TD did not have
 the three point belts, but basic two point lap belts.

 I checked the '81.  It has 3-point.  So does the '85.

 I wonder if someone converted this car using an older seat and
 belts.

 That's what I was suspecting.

 And is a third seat really super rare like the seller claims?
 From my very limited sample it's not.

 --   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Fmiser]

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

My '85 S123 has SLS.

 The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

Superior meaning more durable or meaning desirable
function?  

I don't have data for durability, but I don't like how it
functions.  Higher stall speed torque converter and shifts from
1st to 2nd while the shift lever is in L.  These bug me
_every_ time I drive it.

Anyone have a rather well sorted out beater pre-'85 wagon they
want to trade for my rather well sorted out beater 1985 wagon?

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[andrew strasfogel]

You guys are the best detectives.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hendrik wrote:
 
  Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they
  should have three point seat belts.

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 I thought they did.  Look again.

 I'm with Hendrik on this one.  Image #42.
 http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/happybird213/42.jpg

 There should be a slot just below the side window where the belt
 goes through to the spool.  What I see is belts that look like
 lap belts across the seat.  I also don't see recessed cavity in
 the seat upright where the latch is supposed to be.  So is this
 a seat from a much older car?  The little recess for the latches
 isn't a simple alteration.

 --Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

Color?  Mileage?  Rust?

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

 My '85 S123 has SLS.

 The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

 Superior meaning more durable or meaning desirable
 function?

 I don't have data for durability, but I don't like how it
 functions.  Higher stall speed torque converter and shifts from
 1st to 2nd while the shift lever is in L.  These bug me
 _every_ time I drive it.

 Anyone have a rather well sorted out beater pre-'85 wagon they
 want to trade for my rather well sorted out beater 1985 wagon?

 --   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Fmiser]

 On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Anyone have a rather well sorted out beater pre-'85 wagon
  they want to trade for my rather well sorted out beater 1985
  wagon?

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Color?
Blue, inside and out.

 Mileage?
335xxx.  But I repaired the odometer, so it's an unknown amount
more.

 Rust? 
Yup.  At the jack points.  Along the bottom of the doors.  The
hood has a ripple/wrinkle in it.  The floor is still solid.  A
couple of the door's lower rubber strip have come off.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[Hendrik Fay]

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/304655-new-me-w123-300td-turbo-wagon.html
Has a good picture of a proper factory seat up.

Hendrik
who is not that blind

On 30/07/12 15:14, Fmiser wrote:

Hendrik wrote:

Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they
should have three point seat belts.

andrew strasfogel wrote:
I thought they did.  Look again.

I'm with Hendrik on this one.  Image #42.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/happybird213/42.jpg

There should be a slot just below the side window where the belt
goes through to the spool.  What I see is belts that look like
lap belts across the seat.  I also don't see recessed cavity in
the seat upright where the latch is supposed to be.  So is this
a seat from a much older car?  The little recess for the latches
isn't a simple alteration.

--Philip






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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[Dan Penoff]

I can't speak for an 85 model, but my 1979 300TD did not have the three point 
belts, but basic two point lap belts.

I wonder if someone converted this car using an older seat and belts.  It's 
certainly easy enough to do, as everything is prepped on the chassis to do it - 
you merely have to add the seat cushions and the belts.  All the mounting 
points and everything are already there.

Dan


On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/304655-new-me-w123-300td-turbo-wagon.html
 Has a good picture of a proper factory seat up.
 
 Hendrik
 who is not that blind
 
 On 30/07/12 15:14, Fmiser wrote:
 Hendrik wrote:
 
 Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they
 should have three point seat belts.
 andrew strasfogel wrote:
 I thought they did.  Look again.
 I'm with Hendrik on this one.  Image #42.
 http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/happybird213/42.jpg
 
 There should be a slot just below the side window where the belt
 goes through to the spool.  What I see is belts that look like
 lap belts across the seat.  I also don't see recessed cavity in
 the seat upright where the latch is supposed to be.  So is this
 a seat from a much older car?  The little recess for the latches
 isn't a simple alteration.
 
 --Philip
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[Fmiser]

 Dan Penoff wrote:

 I can't speak for an 85 model, but my 1979 300TD did not have
 the three point belts, but basic two point lap belts.

I checked the '81.  It has 3-point.  So does the '85.

 I wonder if someone converted this car using an older seat and
 belts.

That's what I was suspecting.

And is a third seat really super rare like the seller claims?
From my very limited sample it's not.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[ernest breakfield]

seems if your wagon doesn't have the Self Leveling System, it's missing 
one of the coolest things about the wagons (though it was a PITA if it 
ever started to cause trouble). you can see far too many dragging their 
asses around town here because people didn't want to pay what it costs 
to fix them, but that's a TD issue, not an '85 issue.
as for the trans, i've heard the '85s trans referred to derisively 
as the little one, and know that the local Benz tranny shop doesn't 
like them. (i haven't been forced to look into it any further, knock on 
wood!)


too many things about the '85s make them 'one year cars', and the 
CA versions are even more full of oddities due to the Trap Oxidizer that 
MBZ threw at them that year.


one things that especially irks me about the '85 is the Injection 
Pump; while it was alleged to help the motor produce more power, seems 
there's an Electric Fuel Pressure Regulator that means that even with 
mechanical injection, these things won't work without electricity. (that 
just seems *wrong* to me somehow,... mechanical FI should always just 
*work*.)
because of that pump making more power, the '85 has a rear axle 
ratio that's taller; better for the highway, but worse in town, and that 
even affects the instrument panel since a different speedo is needed.
then, i believe there's a torque converter that's got a different 
stall speed; not sure if that was supposed to be related to the IP and 
axle ratio, or emissions; i've heard stories about it being both.


for CA, the TO was an issue you'll hear many people complain about. 
IIRC, there were 3 Factory campaigns, causing most of them to 
eventually be changed out to be Catalytic Converters (if they hadn't 
eaten themselves up already), but we're still stuck with Intake and 
Exhaust Manifolds that are unique to that subset of that one year, a 
less common turbo, and an air filter that's not shared with any other 
300 diesel, and priced accordingly.


keep your fingers crossed that yours remains running well!


cheers!
e


On 27/Jul/12 19:41, andrew strasfogel wrote:

My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700
From: ernest breakfielderne...@backyardengineering.org
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
Message-ID:50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least
fav colors!)
  can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a
California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up with!

  for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i
bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.


cheers!
e

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[andrew strasfogel]

I thought they did.  Look again.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they should have three
 point seat belts.

 Hendrik
 who has three point seat belts way up the back

 On 27/07/12 05:36, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43






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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

I don't drive either wagon that much so they seem to stay unbroken.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:48 AM, ernest breakfield
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:
 seems if your wagon doesn't have the Self Leveling System, it's missing one
 of the coolest things about the wagons (though it was a PITA if it ever
 started to cause trouble). you can see far too many dragging their asses
 around town here because people didn't want to pay what it costs to fix
 them, but that's a TD issue, not an '85 issue.
 as for the trans, i've heard the '85s trans referred to derisively as
 the little one, and know that the local Benz tranny shop doesn't like
 them. (i haven't been forced to look into it any further, knock on wood!)

 too many things about the '85s make them 'one year cars', and the CA
 versions are even more full of oddities due to the Trap Oxidizer that MBZ
 threw at them that year.

 one things that especially irks me about the '85 is the Injection Pump;
 while it was alleged to help the motor produce more power, seems there's an
 Electric Fuel Pressure Regulator that means that even with mechanical
 injection, these things won't work without electricity. (that just seems
 *wrong* to me somehow,... mechanical FI should always just *work*.)
 because of that pump making more power, the '85 has a rear axle ratio
 that's taller; better for the highway, but worse in town, and that even
 affects the instrument panel since a different speedo is needed.
 then, i believe there's a torque converter that's got a different stall
 speed; not sure if that was supposed to be related to the IP and axle ratio,
 or emissions; i've heard stories about it being both.

 for CA, the TO was an issue you'll hear many people complain about.
 IIRC, there were 3 Factory campaigns, causing most of them to eventually
 be changed out to be Catalytic Converters (if they hadn't eaten themselves
 up already), but we're still stuck with Intake and Exhaust Manifolds that
 are unique to that subset of that one year, a less common turbo, and an air
 filter that's not shared with any other 300 diesel, and priced accordingly.

 keep your fingers crossed that yours remains running well!


 cheers!
 e


 On 27/Jul/12 19:41, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

 There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

 The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

 -Curt

 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700
 From: ernest breakfielderne...@backyardengineering.org
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
 Message-ID:50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


 once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least
 fav colors!)
   can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a
 California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up
 with!

   for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i
 bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.


 cheers!
 e

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[Max Dillon]

Air gaps for hood are off, could indicate deeper collision damage.

Wrong seat belts for third row.

Battery looks a little small, AAA brand? 

Brake fluid is very dark, wonder what other maintenance had been neglected.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[alanc...@pacbell.net]

Thanks, that was pretty comprehensive on complaints about the CA 85 
model What the meaning of the acronym TO?


Alan
85 Turbo



On 7/29/12 12:48 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
seems if your wagon doesn't have the Self Leveling System, it's 
missing one of the coolest things about the wagons (though it was a 
PITA if it ever started to cause trouble). you can see far too many 
dragging their asses around town here because people didn't want to 
pay what it costs to fix them, but that's a TD issue, not an '85 issue.
as for the trans, i've heard the '85s trans referred to derisively 
as the little one, and know that the local Benz tranny shop doesn't 
like them. (i haven't been forced to look into it any further, knock 
on wood!)


too many things about the '85s make them 'one year cars', and the 
CA versions are even more full of oddities due to the Trap Oxidizer 
that MBZ threw at them that year.


one things that especially irks me about the '85 is the Injection 
Pump; while it was alleged to help the motor produce more power, seems 
there's an Electric Fuel Pressure Regulator that means that even with 
mechanical injection, these things won't work without electricity. 
(that just seems *wrong* to me somehow,... mechanical FI should always 
just *work*.)
because of that pump making more power, the '85 has a rear axle 
ratio that's taller; better for the highway, but worse in town, and 
that even affects the instrument panel since a different speedo is 
needed.
then, i believe there's a torque converter that's got a different 
stall speed; not sure if that was supposed to be related to the IP and 
axle ratio, or emissions; i've heard stories about it being both.


for CA, the TO was an issue you'll hear many people complain 
about. IIRC, there were 3 Factory campaigns, causing most of them to 
eventually be changed out to be Catalytic Converters (if they hadn't 
eaten themselves up already), but we're still stuck with Intake and 
Exhaust Manifolds that are unique to that subset of that one year, a 
less common turbo, and an air filter that's not shared with any other 
300 diesel, and priced accordingly.


keep your fingers crossed that yours remains running well!


cheers!
e


On 27/Jul/12 19:41, andrew strasfogel wrote:

My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  
wrote:

Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700
From: ernest breakfielderne...@backyardengineering.org
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
Message-ID:50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least
fav colors!)
  can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a
California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put 
up with!


  for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i
bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.


cheers!
e

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Max Dillon]

TO is the trap oxidizer.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

alanc...@pacbell.net alanc...@pacbell.net wrote:

Thanks, that was pretty comprehensive on complaints about the CA 85 
model What the meaning of the acronym TO?

Alan
85 Turbo




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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[Fmiser]

  Hendrik wrote:
 
  Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they
  should have three point seat belts.

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 I thought they did.  Look again.

I'm with Hendrik on this one.  Image #42.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/happybird213/42.jpg

There should be a slot just below the side window where the belt
goes through to the spool.  What I see is belts that look like
lap belts across the seat.  I also don't see recessed cavity in
the seat upright where the latch is supposed to be.  So is this
a seat from a much older car?  The little recess for the latches
isn't a simple alteration.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Curt Raymond]

SLS = Self Leveling Suspension which I was under the impression all wagons had. 
Rusty's site lists parts but of course thats not an end all be all.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:41:33 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
Message-ID:
CAC35L=tB0fq88Vvxpna_4-s7nPT7J=pk-Su5MEe=3ffjreo...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Frederick Moir]

Curt, et al.
My 85 300TD has SLS
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
 
SLS = Self Leveling Suspension which I was under the impression all wagons 
had. Rusty's site lists parts but of course thats not an end all be all.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:41:33 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
Message-ID:
    CAC35L=tB0fq88Vvxpna_4-s7nPT7J=pk-Su5MEe=3ffjreo...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[David Bruckmann]

On 123 wagons, SLS was standard in all markets but could be deleted under 
certain circumstances by special order. 

If you can't find the SLS on a 123 wagon, it is because it was removed.  

D. 

On 2012-07-28, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.
 
 There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.
 
 The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

Oops, I thought you were referring to SRS (airbags).  Both my wagons
now have SLS.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM, David Bruckmann
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:
 On 123 wagons, SLS was standard in all markets but could be deleted under 
 certain circumstances by special order.

 If you can't find the SLS on a 123 wagon, it is because it was removed.

 D.

 On 2012-07-28, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

 There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

 The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[alanc...@pacbell.net]

I've got a 85 Calif Turbo and it now has a catalytic converter.  I know 
the air cleaners are God awful expensive but I was curious if there were 
any other complaints with the Calif version other than we don't salt 
our roads so they stay pretty rust free.


Alan
85 Turbo

On 7/27/12 3:55 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:
once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my 
least fav colors!)
can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a 
California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up 
with!


for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i 
bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.



cheers!
e

On 26/Jul/12 13:21, Dan Penoff wrote:
Two things that caught my eye - the rub strips on the roof are not 
factory, and the dash isn't cracked.


Dash cracking is almost mandatory with these cars, especially the 
blue ones. With over 200k on the clock I find it intriguing that it's 
not cracked. Could it have been replaced?


The engine compartment is so clean it's scary.

Hmm.

Dan

On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew 
strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com  wrote:



Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43 



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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

[Hendrik Fay]

Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they should have 
three point seat belts.


Hendrik
who has three point seat belts way up the back

On 27/07/12 05:36, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43







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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with SLS and SRS

[Hendrik Fay]

SRS = Safety Restraint System, airbags could be part of the system but 
pre-tensioning seatbelts are the most common one in earlier Mercs.


Hendrik
who has SRS but no airbags

On 29/07/12 06:00, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Oops, I thought you were referring to SRS (airbags).  Both my wagons
now have SLS.






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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Rusty Cullens]

It was an option, they are no longer available. They were VERY expensive.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

I don't recall there being roof strips to begin with. Were there?

I'll go look at some pictures of my former 300TD.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:24 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon.
 It also has replacement roof strips.  Not a big deal to me.
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Fmiser]

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?

Okay.  Beyond being an '85...

The middle seat head rests seem to be missing.  And the seat belt
latches are either missing or under the seat.  At the very
least, the retaining rubber strap is broken allowing the latch to fall under 
the seat.

The antenna is up, and I doubt the radio is on.

No mention of the state of the sunroof.

No mention of the state or condition of the SLS system.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[ernest breakfield]

once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least 
fav colors!)
can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a 
California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up with!


for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i 
bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.



cheers!
e

On 26/Jul/12 13:21, Dan Penoff wrote:

Two things that caught my eye - the rub strips on the roof are not factory, 
and the dash isn't cracked.

Dash cracking is almost mandatory with these cars, especially the blue ones. 
With over 200k on the clock I find it intriguing that it's not cracked. Could 
it have been replaced?

The engine compartment is so clean it's scary.

Hmm.

Dan

On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com  wrote:


Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Curt Raymond]

Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700
From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
Message-ID: 50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least 
fav colors!)
 can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a 
California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up with!

 for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i 
bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.


cheers!
e

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

There is no SLS on an 85 Benz.

The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60...

 -Curt

 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700
 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD
 Message-ID: 50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org
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 once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least
 fav colors!)
  can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a
 California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up with!

  for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i
 bought it ~10 year ago, and still is.


 cheers!
 e

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[MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

Two things that caught my eye - the rub strips on the roof are not factory, 
and the dash isn't cracked.

Dash cracking is almost mandatory with these cars, especially the blue ones. 
With over 200k on the clock I find it intriguing that it's not cracked. Could 
it have been replaced?

The engine compartment is so clean it's scary.

Hmm.

Dan

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 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[G Mann]

The major flaw I see with this car is that it is not setting in your
driveway cooling down from the trip home.


On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

That too. I was lusting over it and the thought of a cross country trip in it 
from CA to FL with that ICE COLD air.

Dan

On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:27 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 The major flaw I see with this car is that it is not setting in your
 driveway cooling down from the trip home.
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43
 
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon.
It also has replacement roof strips.  Not a big deal to me.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 That too. I was lusting over it and the thought of a cross country trip in it 
 from CA to FL with that ICE COLD air.

 Dan

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:27 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 The major flaw I see with this car is that it is not setting in your
 driveway cooling down from the trip home.


 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Dimitri Seretakis]

When was it replaced? Was it a used one or a new one back when they were 
available?

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On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:24 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon.
It also has replacement roof strips.  Not a big deal to me.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
That too. I was lusting over it and the thought of a cross country trip in it 
from CA to FL with that ICE COLD air.

Dan

On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:27 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

The major flaw I see with this car is that it is not setting in your
driveway cooling down from the trip home.


On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

I don't recall there being roof strips to begin with. Were there?

I'll go look at some pictures of my former 300TD.

Dan

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On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:24 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon.
 It also has replacement roof strips.  Not a big deal to me.
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

Roof strips are glued on - a dealer installed option.

Replacement blue dash was installed years ago before my ownership.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I don't recall there being roof strips to begin with. Were there?

 I'll go look at some pictures of my former 300TD.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:24 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon.
 It also has replacement roof strips.  Not a big deal to me.



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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

[Fmiser]

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Seems perfect - can someone find flaws?

Big flaw - it's an 1985 model.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] droolworthy

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Pricey drool.

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240 though, must be pokey...

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[MBZ] droolworthy

[Curt Raymond]

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/359684556.html
240 though, must be pokey...

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Re: [MBZ] droolworthy

[R A Bennell]

Looks very nice but $18K for a 79 might be a bit much??

Randy

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http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/359684556.html
240 though, must be pokey...

-Curt

   


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Re: [MBZ] droolworthy

[Chuck Landenberger]

Curt,

I recall an early 90's MBCA driving event at Summit Point Raceway in  
WV...  One member drove one of these on the 2 mile road course for  
time trials..  We used a sundial to time him!!
He took all the heat we could give him and just smiled!
On this one, seems a little pricey but could be a great weekender for  
the hills..

Take care,

Chuck
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Re: [MBZ] droolworthy

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On 6/25/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 240 though, must be pokey...


I love old Gs,  but those wheels look lame and the tires are way too small.


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