Re: [MBZ] Jaime or Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

SERIOUS INQUIRES ONLY PLEASE. If ad is posted I still have them do not ask!

I think we should all bombard him with "how much will you take for 
them?" and "are they still available?" and "can you ship them?"


--FT

On 4/19/19 11:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Me too. Very hard to sell.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:39 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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Thanks, but I’m good also... I’ve got a few sets!

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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Or anyone else.
Any interest in this stuff?





https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/pts/d/boone-grove-old-mercedes-headlight/6862342810.html


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime or Dan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Me too. Very hard to sell.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:39 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> Thanks, but I’m good also... I’ve got a few sets!
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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>
> > Or anyone else.
> > Any interest in this stuff?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/pts/d/boone-grove-old-mercedes-headlight/6862342810.html
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime or Dan

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Thanks, but I’m good also... I’ve got a few sets!

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> Or anyone else.
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Thanks for pointing it out. I’m not in need at this time.

-D

> On Apr 19, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Or anyone else.  
> Any interest in this stuff?
> 
> 
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Or anyone else.  
Any interest in this stuff?


https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/pts/d/boone-grove-old-mercedes-headlight/6862342810.html


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yeah. Ok. Time for a repost.

http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm

http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Question: Why do Englishmen drink room temperature beer?
Answer: Because Lucas builds refrigerators.

I've owned several Jags over the years... all of them have been "electron
infected".  "Prince of Darkness" title is well earned, and well deserved.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 6:34 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Today I saw a jag U wire station wagon at the gate of an AF base.  I was
> not aware such a thing had ever been made.
>
> And Herr Mann neglected to mention jag U wires are the residence of the
> Prince of Darkness
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 1/1/19 11:14 AM:
> > V12 Jag = Money Pit + you need a permanent parking bay at the
> mechanics...
> > Plan when you want to drive it, call the mechanic at least 2 weeks ahead
> of
> > time, arrive with a briefcase full of $100's, [to make a "progress
> payment"
> > for his work to date], take it out for the drive, have it towed back to
> > it's parking slot... take Uber home, yet again
> >
> > If you own a Jag, walking is more comfortable, because you have so much
> > less weight in your wallet.
> > [Personal experience after owning a V12 Sedan for a few years]
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Bespoke “shooting brake”. HRH the Prince of Living in Ladies’ Pants had one of 
the XJS flavor.  Some coachbuilder in Jolly Olde made them. 

--FT
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> On Jan 2, 2019, at 8:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Today I saw a jag U wire station wagon at the gate of an AF base.  I was not 
> aware such a thing had ever been made.
> 
> And Herr Mann neglected to mention jag U wires are the residence of the 
> Prince of Darkness
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 1/1/19 11:14 AM:
>> V12 Jag = Money Pit + you need a permanent parking bay at the mechanics...
>> Plan when you want to drive it, call the mechanic at least 2 weeks ahead of
>> time, arrive with a briefcase full of $100's, [to make a "progress payment"
>> for his work to date], take it out for the drive, have it towed back to
>> it's parking slot... take Uber home, yet again
>> 
>> If you own a Jag, walking is more comfortable, because you have so much
>> less weight in your wallet.
>> [Personal experience after owning a V12 Sedan for a few years]
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Today I saw a jag U wire station wagon at the gate of an AF base.  I was 
not aware such a thing had ever been made.


And Herr Mann neglected to mention jag U wires are the residence of the 
Prince of Darkness


G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 1/1/19 11:14 AM:

V12 Jag = Money Pit + you need a permanent parking bay at the mechanics...
Plan when you want to drive it, call the mechanic at least 2 weeks ahead of
time, arrive with a briefcase full of $100's, [to make a "progress payment"
for his work to date], take it out for the drive, have it towed back to
it's parking slot... take Uber home, yet again

If you own a Jag, walking is more comfortable, because you have so much
less weight in your wallet.
[Personal experience after owning a V12 Sedan for a few years]





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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Why so you rarely see  a Jag with smashed front end? Hard  to hit something
when you are always behind a wrecker.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 1, 2019 1:03 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> When I worked on Jags for a portion of my living in the late 70s/early
> 80s, we often joked that we should form an alliance with funeral directors,
> as we knew no matter how bad things got, we would always have a constant
> flow of customers….
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 1, 2019, at 12:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > V12 Jag = Money Pit + you need a permanent parking bay at the
> mechanics...
> > Plan when you want to drive it, call the mechanic at least 2 weeks ahead
> of
> > time, arrive with a briefcase full of $100's, [to make a "progress
> payment"
> > for his work to date], take it out for the drive, have it towed back to
> > it's parking slot... take Uber home, yet again
> >
> > If you own a Jag, walking is more comfortable, because you have so much
> > less weight in your wallet.
> > [Personal experience after owning a V12 Sedan for a few years]
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:54 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I love that color combo on a jagyooowahhh, it’s perfectamundo. The V12
> XJS
> >> has an appeal but is probably a really bad idea.
> >>
> >> That S600 is 2yr younger and 9k more miles than this SL600 I got.
> >> Interesting it’s accumulators were replaced too. Wear item I guess. The
> >> color does nothing for me, maybe OK in the warmer climes, black/black is
> >> the way to go!
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If Jaime likes working on V12s, this is a nice color on any car.
> >>> I don't know if he wants a V12 Jag with over 30k on the odometer,
> that's
> >> a lot of miles for those things...
> >>>
> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-jaguar-xjs-28/
> >>>
> >>> Mitch.
> >>>
>  On December 31, 2018 at 7:15 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>  Except the color is terrible on that car!
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When I worked on Jags for a portion of my living in the late 70s/early 80s, we 
often joked that we should form an alliance with funeral directors, as we knew 
no matter how bad things got, we would always have a constant flow of 
customers….

-D


> On Jan 1, 2019, at 12:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> V12 Jag = Money Pit + you need a permanent parking bay at the mechanics...
> Plan when you want to drive it, call the mechanic at least 2 weeks ahead of
> time, arrive with a briefcase full of $100's, [to make a "progress payment"
> for his work to date], take it out for the drive, have it towed back to
> it's parking slot... take Uber home, yet again
> 
> If you own a Jag, walking is more comfortable, because you have so much
> less weight in your wallet.
> [Personal experience after owning a V12 Sedan for a few years]
> 
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:54 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I love that color combo on a jagyooowahhh, it’s perfectamundo. The V12 XJS
>> has an appeal but is probably a really bad idea.
>> 
>> That S600 is 2yr younger and 9k more miles than this SL600 I got.
>> Interesting it’s accumulators were replaced too. Wear item I guess. The
>> color does nothing for me, maybe OK in the warmer climes, black/black is
>> the way to go!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If Jaime likes working on V12s, this is a nice color on any car.
>>> I don't know if he wants a V12 Jag with over 30k on the odometer, that's
>> a lot of miles for those things...
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-jaguar-xjs-28/
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
 On December 31, 2018 at 7:15 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 Except the color is terrible on that car!
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

That does look like a pretty nice car... not my first choice in color, but
overall very clean

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> Should have held off for a few weeks….
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-mercedes-benz-s600/?utm_source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_model_notification
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V12 Jag = Money Pit + you need a permanent parking bay at the mechanics...
Plan when you want to drive it, call the mechanic at least 2 weeks ahead of
time, arrive with a briefcase full of $100's, [to make a "progress payment"
for his work to date], take it out for the drive, have it towed back to
it's parking slot... take Uber home, yet again

If you own a Jag, walking is more comfortable, because you have so much
less weight in your wallet.
[Personal experience after owning a V12 Sedan for a few years]

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:54 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I love that color combo on a jagyooowahhh, it’s perfectamundo. The V12 XJS
> has an appeal but is probably a really bad idea.
>
> That S600 is 2yr younger and 9k more miles than this SL600 I got.
> Interesting it’s accumulators were replaced too. Wear item I guess. The
> color does nothing for me, maybe OK in the warmer climes, black/black is
> the way to go!
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If Jaime likes working on V12s, this is a nice color on any car.
> > I don't know if he wants a V12 Jag with over 30k on the odometer, that's
> a lot of miles for those things...
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-jaguar-xjs-28/
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On December 31, 2018 at 7:15 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Except the color is terrible on that car!
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I love that color combo on a jagyooowahhh, it’s perfectamundo. The V12 XJS has 
an appeal but is probably a really bad idea. 

That S600 is 2yr younger and 9k more miles than this SL600 I got. Interesting 
it’s accumulators were replaced too. Wear item I guess. The color does nothing 
for me, maybe OK in the warmer climes, black/black is the way to go!

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If Jaime likes working on V12s, this is a nice color on any car. 
> I don't know if he wants a V12 Jag with over 30k on the odometer, that's a 
> lot of miles for those things...
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-jaguar-xjs-28/
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>> On December 31, 2018 at 7:15 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Except the color is terrible on that car!
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Same seller as the 500E.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 8:03 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If Jaime likes working on V12s, this is a nice color on any car.
> I don't know if he wants a V12 Jag with over 30k on the odometer, that's a
> lot of miles for those things...
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-jaguar-xjs-28/
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On December 31, 2018 at 7:15 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <
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> >
> >
> > Except the color is terrible on that car!
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If Jaime likes working on V12s, this is a nice color on any car. 
I don't know if he wants a V12 Jag with over 30k on the odometer, that's a lot 
of miles for those things...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-jaguar-xjs-28/

Mitch.

> On December 31, 2018 at 7:15 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Except the color is terrible on that car!

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Sort of.  While a classy car like this should be a dark color in my opinion, I 
will say that a white car appears to be cleaner for a lot longer then a dark or 
black one does. At least that’s been my experience.

-D


> On Dec 31, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Except the color is terrible on that car!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Should have held off for a few weeks….
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-mercedes-benz-s600/?utm_source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_model_notification
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Except the color is terrible on that car!

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> 
> Should have held off for a few weeks….
> 
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[MBZ] Jaime Missed His Chance

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Should have held off for a few weeks….

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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Yes the ac can be cold but it is nice that it blows from the center.  I
always thought that required dash removal, but should research as it is
about the only thing not working on mine.

The ac hoses are available new for about 100 for the long one, so putting a
used one on is sort of weird.

I was referring more to the dash cracks. I think at 20k you are in
nitpicking territory. And yes that seat looks terrible.

I am considering all leather interior and new carpet. At that point someone
will have to give me 30k to buy it. But why sell? After you fix all the
stuff, it is time to enjoy it. Kind of fun to drive something that just
gets better and better as the years go by.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 11:50 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> The climate control actually worked well in this car, I think all the pods
> were done.  AC was some of the coldest I’ve seen in a 123.
>
> The botched valve job assembly definitely concerned me, but not anyone on
> BaT it seems.  The owner was really lucky when that retaining spring popped
> off the rocker shaft.  It could have gotten ugly.
>
> I didn’t like the painted needles (Why?!?) or the poorly rebuilt seat. All
> sloppy work.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not sure who Andrew is, but he gets an F.
> >
> > There is only one guy I would have do the rebuild: Mike Elias. There are
> a
> > lot of possible shortcuts. Did they use all new rocker arms, oiler tubes
> > and a new cam? Yada yada.
> >
> > Looks like they did all the timing guides, which is cool. But probably
> not
> > needed.
> >
> > Anyway it still needs subframe bushings and the dash out.
> >
> > How does one re-dye the spare tire cover?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 11:06 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On October 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM Mitch Haley 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > Oops, wrong link:
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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> On October 12, 2018 at 2:17 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not sure who Andrew is, but he gets an F.

Invoice says Andrew Villasenor on it. 
It says he restored the car, with among other things a rebuilt head. 
No mention of whether the head came from Classic Center, or whether he rebuilt 
a head himself, or sent a head to a machine shop for rebuilding...
But I'd be annoyed if I paid somebody $9k to bring my car up to snuff and a 
year later it started spitting out rocker arms.

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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Not this Andrew for sure.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Not sure who Andrew is, but he gets an F.
>
> There is only one guy I would have do the rebuild: Mike Elias. There are a
> lot of possible shortcuts. Did they use all new rocker arms, oiler tubes
> and a new cam? Yada yada.
>
> Looks like they did all the timing guides, which is cool. But probably not
> needed.
>
> Anyway it still needs subframe bushings and the dash out.
>
> How does one re-dye the spare tire cover?
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 11:06 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On October 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM Mitch Haley 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-12/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-10-11
> >
> > Oops, wrong link:
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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The climate control actually worked well in this car, I think all the pods
were done.  AC was some of the coldest I’ve seen in a 123.

The botched valve job assembly definitely concerned me, but not anyone on
BaT it seems.  The owner was really lucky when that retaining spring popped
off the rocker shaft.  It could have gotten ugly.

I didn’t like the painted needles (Why?!?) or the poorly rebuilt seat. All
sloppy work.

Jaime


On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Not sure who Andrew is, but he gets an F.
>
> There is only one guy I would have do the rebuild: Mike Elias. There are a
> lot of possible shortcuts. Did they use all new rocker arms, oiler tubes
> and a new cam? Yada yada.
>
> Looks like they did all the timing guides, which is cool. But probably not
> needed.
>
> Anyway it still needs subframe bushings and the dash out.
>
> How does one re-dye the spare tire cover?
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 11:06 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On October 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM Mitch Haley 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-12/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-10-11
> >
> > Oops, wrong link:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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Not sure who Andrew is, but he gets an F.

There is only one guy I would have do the rebuild: Mike Elias. There are a
lot of possible shortcuts. Did they use all new rocker arms, oiler tubes
and a new cam? Yada yada.

Looks like they did all the timing guides, which is cool. But probably not
needed.

Anyway it still needs subframe bushings and the dash out.

How does one re-dye the spare tire cover?

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>
> > On October 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM Mitch Haley 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-12/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-10-11
>
> Oops, wrong link:
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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> On October 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM Mitch Haley  wrote:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-12/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-10-11

Oops, wrong link:
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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> On October 12, 2018 at 10:26 AM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:02:09 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > And they didnt say who rebuilt the head.
> 
> See
> https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/1984_mercedes-benz_300td_turbo_15379009676607c8IMG_1908a.jpg
> 

Bzzz, wrong. 
Jaime didn't rebuild the head, Andrew did. 
Jaime just fixed what Andrew messed up. 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:02:09 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> And they didnt say who rebuilt the head.

See
https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/1984_mercedes-benz_300td_turbo_15379009676607c8IMG_1908a.jpg


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Well it has had some stuff done to it.

I think it should have had new rear subframe bushings minimum. They make
the car swim down the road at highway speed if not replaced at those miles.
It should also have had a new transmission for those dollars. And they
didnt say who rebuilt the head.

I guess it just goes to show the cars hold a little bit of value now when
you keep them up rather than running them into the ground. Good to know.

I think it is time to switch to agreed value on the auto policy! No more of
this lowballing crap from usaa. They would total this car out at about 4k.





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> Holy crap
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Oct 11, 2018, at 6:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > $18,750.
> > Mitch.
> >> On October 11, 2018 at 5:24 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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Holy crap

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> On Oct 11, 2018, at 6:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> $18,750.
> Mitch. 
>> On October 11, 2018 at 5:24 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

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$18,750.
Mitch. 
> On October 11, 2018 at 5:24 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-12/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-10-11

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[MBZ] Jaime mentioned on BAT 300TD auction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"An engine issue in July 2018 prompted the seller to take the car to *Jaime
Kopchinki’s *shop in Morristown, New Jersey for an inspection as shown on
an included receipt. It was discovered that the rocker shaft for cylinder
#1 was bent, the front rocker arm was broken, and the second rocker arm was
displaced. A locating pin on the first rocker shaft bracket was never
installed during the 2016 work. The valve train was inspected and
reassembled with a new rocker shaft, rocker arm, and retaining springs.
Valve clearances were adjusted and a compression test reportedly found 29,
25, 28, 26, and 27 bar on cylinders 1-5 respectively. New injector heat
shields and return hoses were also installed, the throttle linkage was
lubricated, and the oil/filter was changed."

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime car!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

That thing is pretty stripped... the price is near scrap, at least

Rustier than a lot of NJ cars, unfortunately.

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> good 108 rolling chassis to start with.  Transfer interior and drive train
> from NJ rustbucket.
>
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

good 108 rolling chassis to start with.  Transfer interior and drive 
train from NJ rustbucket.


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! Questions about your Ponton ...

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Hi Craig,
Thank you!

No, looks like the author is driving, I'm in the passenger seat in the
photos.

The color is 221 "dark green".  It seems to have no longer been used after
1959 or so.  I had a really difficult time finding someone who could look
it up and mix some:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_05_15_Mercedes_219/large-68.html

When I found the car, it had original tires on it still.  So I preserved
them and found a used set of 5 wheels, had them blasted and painted to the
correct color, then mounted new tires on them.

Jaime



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> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 17:50:31 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > My ponton and I are in this month's issue of Automobile!
> > http://www.automobilemag.com/news/six-1950s-sedans-lime-rock-park/
>
> Great pictures of a great car!
>
> Was that you driving it, Jaime, or were you the one in the passenger seat?
>
> What color is it painted? I presume it's the original color.
>
> I went through many of the articles pictures and downloaded 26 pictures
> totaling 57 MB.
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 17:50:31 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> My ponton and I are in this month's issue of Automobile!
> http://www.automobilemag.com/news/six-1950s-sedans-lime-rock-park/

Great pictures of a great car!

Was that you driving it, Jaime, or were you the one in the passenger seat?

What color is it painted? I presume it's the original color.

I went through many of the articles pictures and downloaded 26 pictures
totaling 57 MB.


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Dealers are privately owned and therefore not a direct  reflection of
Mercedes as a company.



I just wondered if you knew which dealer it might be, since it was in New 
Jerkski.

Mitch


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Au contraire a bad dealership is a direct reflection on Mercedes-Benz. They may 
not want it to be but it is.
An example is how nobody in the TDI community will take their car to a VW 
dealer for service. Its become abundantly clear in the community that taking 
your car to VW for service = Broken car. The number of stories of VW dealers 
putting timing belt tensioners in backwards is staggering. So sadly a 
dealership with competent techs is painted with a broad brush...

-Curt

  From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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Cc: Jaime Kopchinski 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?
   
Dealers are privately owned and therefore not a direct  reflection of
Mercedes as a company.

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> http://www.corporateofficeheadquarters.com/2011/07/mercedes-benz-usa.html
>
> Anonymous
> February 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM
>
> I recently was an employee for a Mercedes Benz Dealership in South Jersey.
> I worked for the body shop and it was as if working for a no name chop shop
> body shop. They do not care for their customers, all they want is the
> insurance money. The best part is that the body shop manager is hooked on
> oxycontin and all other types of narcotic pain medications, so he steals
> from customer vehicles and from the body shop itself and blames the
> employees. So what i did to cover the rest of the employees is record the
> manager stealing/ selling what does not belong to him. I take this
> information to the general service manager and explain to him what is going
> on and 3 days later i was layed off. All managers in that dealership are a
> team, they look out for each other. One employee who has been there for 27
> years knows this has been going on for years and told me not to say
> anything or it would come back and bite me in the rear, IT DID. I would
> strongly recommend taking the vehicle to Princeton Mercedes or other body
> shops. This body shop which is not far from Philadelphia is doing
> everything completely wrong and dishonest. MANAGEMENT not its current
> employees!!!
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Dealers are privately owned and therefore not a direct  reflection of
Mercedes as a company.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
wrote:

> http://www.corporateofficeheadquarters.com/2011/07/mercedes-benz-usa.html
>
> Anonymous
> February 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM
>
> I recently was an employee for a Mercedes Benz Dealership in South Jersey.
> I worked for the body shop and it was as if working for a no name chop shop
> body shop. They do not care for their customers, all they want is the
> insurance money. The best part is that the body shop manager is hooked on
> oxycontin and all other types of narcotic pain medications, so he steals
> from customer vehicles and from the body shop itself and blames the
> employees. So what i did to cover the rest of the employees is record the
> manager stealing/ selling what does not belong to him. I take this
> information to the general service manager and explain to him what is going
> on and 3 days later i was layed off. All managers in that dealership are a
> team, they look out for each other. One employee who has been there for 27
> years knows this has been going on for years and told me not to say
> anything or it would come back and bite me in the rear, IT DID. I would
> strongly recommend taking the vehicle to Princeton Mercedes or other body
> shops. This body shop which is not far from Philadelphia is doing
> everything completely wrong and dishonest. MANAGEMENT not its current
> employees!!!
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[MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?

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Anonymous
February 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I recently was an employee for a Mercedes Benz Dealership in South Jersey. I 
worked for the body shop and it was as if working for a no name chop shop body 
shop. They do not care for their customers, all they want is the insurance 
money. The best part is that the body shop manager is hooked on oxycontin and 
all other types of narcotic pain medications, so he steals from customer 
vehicles and from the body shop itself and blames the employees. So what i did 
to cover the rest of the employees is record the manager stealing/ selling what 
does not belong to him. I take this information to the general service manager 
and explain to him what is going on and 3 days later i was layed off. All 
managers in that dealership are a team, they look out for each other. One 
employee who has been there for 27 years knows this has been going on for years 
and told me not to say anything or it would come back and bite me in the rear, 
IT DID. I would strongly recommend taking the vehicle to Princeton Mercedes or 
other body shops. This body shop which is not far from Philadelphia is doing 
everything completely wrong and dishonest. MANAGEMENT not its current employees!!!


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime Bait Alert! 123 not 114...

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I missed it!

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice 123 coupe, unique 80's gasser...
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > Remember this Euro W114 coupe ws at $10k?
> >
> > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5478416618.html <
> > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5478416618.html>
> >
> > I’m thinking $4000 will probably get it.
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[MBZ] Jaime Bait Alert! 123 not 114...

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice 123 coupe, unique 80's gasser...

-
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> Remember this Euro W114 coupe ws at $10k?
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5478416618.html <
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5478416618.html>
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> I’m thinking $4000 will probably get it.
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime might be on the next plane to okieville

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Is it in your yard yet? I thought you bought all the green/green cars . . .

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime might be on the next plane to okieville

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My first 240D was,that color-exterior not the green interior.
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[MBZ] Jaime might be on the next plane to okieville

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime must be selling this one

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One of the lowest miles 300Ds on WHAT planet?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/252041617495?rmvSB=true&rmvSB=true
>
> I think this has Jaime written all over it...
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[MBZ] Jaime must be selling this one

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252041617495?rmvSB=true&rmvSB=true

I think this has Jaime written all over it...
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - An Easy Flip!!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That's called CADD

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> On Jul 2, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's too new for me!  But thanks Dan.
> 
> And I'm more of a add-value and resell kinda kind.  I never flip.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Here you go:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2398233-1993-mercedes-benz-400sel-sale-whole.html#post12414633
>> <
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2398233-1993-mercedes-benz-400sel-sale-whole.html#post12414633
>> 
>> I’ll give you $500 for it when you’re done.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - An Easy Flip!!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

That's too new for me!  But thanks Dan.

And I'm more of a add-value and resell kinda kind.  I never flip.

Jaime

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> Here you go:
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2398233-1993-mercedes-benz-400sel-sale-whole.html#post12414633
> <
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2398233-1993-mercedes-benz-400sel-sale-whole.html#post12414633
> >
>
> I’ll give you $500 for it when you’re done.
>
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[MBZ] Jaime - An Easy Flip!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here you go:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2398233-1993-mercedes-benz-400sel-sale-whole.html#post12414633
 


I’ll give you $500 for it when you’re done.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

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Speakers were not grounded from the factory.  Beware if this is the case.

Jaime

On Saturday, June 20, 2015, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Meade wrote:
> >
> > I'm concerned because I've read in several forum posts that
> > modern radios don't like how Mercedes grounded the speakers
> > in the 80's, now I need to see how the Becker 1492
> > installation compares to my 87 wagon, maybe in '94/'95
> > Mercedes continued with its speaker grounding method and
> > the 1492 won't care.
>
> Ah.  They grounded one side of the speaker line - huh?
> *shakes head*  Not a good idea.  Oh well.  It is what it is.
>
> You might be able to test your 1492 with a meter.  Measure
> the resistance between the various speaker "-" terminal.
> Also measure from the "-" terminal to chassis ground.
> Probably should check both polarities.
>
> Compare that to the same test procedure done with the "+"
> terminals.  If the amp output is NOT ground referenced, the
> two could be similar.  I don't know what values to expect.
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Meade wrote:
> 
> I'm concerned because I've read in several forum posts that
> modern radios don't like how Mercedes grounded the speakers
> in the 80's, now I need to see how the Becker 1492
> installation compares to my 87 wagon, maybe in '94/'95
> Mercedes continued with its speaker grounding method and
> the 1492 won't care.

Ah.  They grounded one side of the speaker line - huh?
*shakes head*  Not a good idea.  Oh well.  It is what it is.

You might be able to test your 1492 with a meter.  Measure
the resistance between the various speaker "-" terminal.
Also measure from the "-" terminal to chassis ground.
Probably should check both polarities.  

Compare that to the same test procedure done with the "+"
terminals.  If the amp output is NOT ground referenced, the
two could be similar.  I don't know what values to expect.

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Meade wrote:
> 
> ...should I combine the front and rear signals (more
> power) to feed the fader?

Bad idea.  If the amplifier sections are designed
appropriately, it's possible to combine them - but you either
get double the current or double the voltage and without
changing the speaker impedance you likely won't get much more
power.

And most likely, the amplifier sections are NOT designed that
way.  In which case the amp outputs "fight" each other and
all the power goes into destroying the amp rather than out
the speakers.


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Jaime,

I figured out those speaker connectors behind the radio are indeed the rear 
speaker connectors, so I can use jumpers through the fader connector for the 
front speaker (+) signal, now I need to figure out the (-) signal.


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'95 E300

On June 19, 2015 7:46:12 PM EDT, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Hi Meade,
>You can easily bypass the fader switch... In earlier cars (which I'm
>familiar with) the fader switch wiring harness has connections to the
>rear
>speakers in the center console.  If you work with the wire, you can
>stretch
>them up to the radio.  No need to run new wires to the rear.  I run new
>wiring to the fronts, since the factory wiring is part of the factory
>fader
>harness.  Normally I do this with out cutting anything (I have lots of
>the
>male factory speaker connectors, and access to the original crimp tool
>for
>them) so I can return the car to original.
>
>The original style speaker connectors are labeled + and - if you look
>very
>carefully at the plastic pieces.
>
>Good luck!
>Jaime
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Hi Meade,
You can easily bypass the fader switch... In earlier cars (which I'm
familiar with) the fader switch wiring harness has connections to the rear
speakers in the center console.  If you work with the wire, you can stretch
them up to the radio.  No need to run new wires to the rear.  I run new
wiring to the fronts, since the factory wiring is part of the factory fader
harness.  Normally I do this with out cutting anything (I have lots of the
male factory speaker connectors, and access to the original crimp tool for
them) so I can return the car to original.

The original style speaker connectors are labeled + and - if you look very
carefully at the plastic pieces.

Good luck!
Jaime


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> Jaime,
>
> The aftermarket Sony radio in my '87 wagon finally died, and whomever
> installed it really hacked up the factory wiring.  Some of the original
> connectors appear to be there, I found two.  Looks like the factory radio
> should have been a Becker Grand Prix, model 754.
>
> I've got a spare Becker 1492, which I'd like to install.  This afternoon I
> went by a local pick-n-pull and from a W202 I cut the radio connectors and
> about a foot of the factory wiring, so I have connectors that fit into the
> back of the 1492 including the CD changer port.
>
> Q1: What to do with the nearly-dead fader switch in the center console?
> Should I bypass, or bite the bullet and get a new fader switch.  If bypass,
> have you got a wiring diagram?  I have already tried a thorough cleaning
> with De-Ox-It, which helped a little, but it is still pretty miserable.
>
> Q2: The 1492 has a connection port for a CD changer, but I have no such
> thing in the wagon.  Have you a wiring diagram so I can make an aux input
> connection?
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[MG via Mercedes]

Max, The fader on my 123 just plugs into the wiring right under 
it. Makes it easy to replace and to run new wires from the radio 
to that plug. No need to look for any other plug in point.


Manfred

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:21:35 -0400
From: Meade Dillon 

The easiest of all will be finding the rear speaker wire connections,
hopefully in the center console and accessible without too much 
trouble.
If I can find those, then I can connect the radio directly to the 
speakers,

bypassing the fader.

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Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Actually now that you mention it I think it was the '78 240D I ran new wires 
on, on the '84 I think I spliced into the wires that were already there leaving 
it so it'd be easy to reconfigure to factory if somebody wanted to.
-Curt
  From: Meade Dillon 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement
   
The easiest of all will be finding the rear speaker wire connections, hopefully 
in the center console and accessible without too much trouble.  If I can find 
those, then I can connect the radio directly to the speakers, bypassing the 
fader.

-
Max
Charleston SC



On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

This is how every MB I've owned other than my '81 300TD with the factory Becker 
has worked. The '84 190D I ran the wires myself...
-Curt      




  
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The easiest of all will be finding the rear speaker wire connections,
hopefully in the center console and accessible without too much trouble.
If I can find those, then I can connect the radio directly to the speakers,
bypassing the fader.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is how every MB I've owned other than my '81 300TD with the factory
> Becker has worked. The '84 190D I ran the wires myself...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This is how every MB I've owned other than my '81 300TD with the factory Becker 
has worked. The '84 190D I ran the wires myself...
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas  
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement
   
Probably easier to just snake new wires back to the speakers and then 
connect directly to the head unit or the connector or whatever you can 
get to

--R



On 6/19/15 10:33 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> The issue is that the fader gets two-channel input (only two wires), and
> outputs four-channels (only four wires).  The _ground_ or _negative_ signal
> to the speakers doesn't go through the fader, it goes from the radio
> through connector X48H and X48G, which are not listed in the FSM index of
> connector locations.  I suspect they are somewhere under the center
> console.  So I would need to run two more wires to that fader socket for
> either the front or the rear speakers, OR I could go directly to the front
> speakers from the radio (those connectors are readily available right
> behind the radio hole), and then jumper the fader input wires to the rear
> speaker signals.  Unfortunately the electrical diagram from the FSM does
> not give pin numbers at the fader socket, so I guess that will be trial and
> error with a 9v battery.
>
> I'm concerned because I've read in several forum posts that modern radios
> don't like how Mercedes grounded the speakers in the 80's, now I need to
> see how the Becker 1492 installation compares to my 87 wagon, maybe in
> '94/'95 Mercedes continued with its speaker grounding method and the 1492
> won't care.
>
> I'd like to put the Aux Input plug in the hole for the fader.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> You could just clip a jumper across the terminals for each side and turn
>> the fader "off" -- that will create the easy path for the electrons to
>> flow.  Won't bugger the switch.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/19/15 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Rich.  I think the easy route will be to bypass the fader, I'd like
>>> to figure out how to do that without cutting off the fader connector so
>>> that it can be restored to stock in the future.  I'm not having much luck
>>> finding a DIY on the intertubes for which pins to jumper (or run new wires
>>> to) in order to route sound signal to the rear speakers.
>>>
>>> Aux input: yes, it looks like hacking into the cassette board will be the
>>> best option, if I can't figure out how to use the CD changer inputs.  I'm
>>> not sure how to approach that yet, may need an o-scope to sample the
>>> signals.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think those fader "swithces" are just variable resistors/potentiometer
>>>> things. put a meter on it and see what it does.
>>>>
>>>> Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but
>>>> any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass
>>>> it
>>>> and use the "native" function.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I don't know about Beckers but I was looking at the schematic for
>>>> the radio in my truck, which I liberated from the 2000 Suburban when I
>>>> put
>>>> a new unit in there.  I want to put an aux input for an ipod or a
>>>> bluetooth
>>>> module, and the way to do that is to tap into the cassette line.  The
>>>> unit
>>>> itself has a remote cassette player that uses that line so just a matter
>>>> of
>>>> putting the wires and a mini-plug socket somewhere near the unit.  Of
>>>> course this is on my "to-do" list...  Some people have found success by
>>>> just opening up the unit and looking at the board or inputs and just
>>>> tapping/splicing into the proper wire or trace or plug or something on
>>>> the
>>>> main board -- apparently most of them are annotated on the boards or it
>>>> is
>>>> easy enough to see what goes where.
>>>>
>>>> --R
>>>

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Probably easier to just snake new wires back to the speakers and then 
connect directly to the head unit or the connector or whatever you can 
get to


--R



On 6/19/15 10:33 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

The issue is that the fader gets two-channel input (only two wires), and
outputs four-channels (only four wires).  The _ground_ or _negative_ signal
to the speakers doesn't go through the fader, it goes from the radio
through connector X48H and X48G, which are not listed in the FSM index of
connector locations.  I suspect they are somewhere under the center
console.  So I would need to run two more wires to that fader socket for
either the front or the rear speakers, OR I could go directly to the front
speakers from the radio (those connectors are readily available right
behind the radio hole), and then jumper the fader input wires to the rear
speaker signals.  Unfortunately the electrical diagram from the FSM does
not give pin numbers at the fader socket, so I guess that will be trial and
error with a 9v battery.

I'm concerned because I've read in several forum posts that modern radios
don't like how Mercedes grounded the speakers in the 80's, now I need to
see how the Becker 1492 installation compares to my 87 wagon, maybe in
'94/'95 Mercedes continued with its speaker grounding method and the 1492
won't care.

I'd like to put the Aux Input plug in the hole for the fader.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


You could just clip a jumper across the terminals for each side and turn
the fader "off" -- that will create the easy path for the electrons to
flow.  Won't bugger the switch.

--R




On 6/19/15 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


Thanks Rich.  I think the easy route will be to bypass the fader, I'd like
to figure out how to do that without cutting off the fader connector so
that it can be restored to stock in the future.  I'm not having much luck
finding a DIY on the intertubes for which pins to jumper (or run new wires
to) in order to route sound signal to the rear speakers.

Aux input: yes, it looks like hacking into the cassette board will be the
best option, if I can't figure out how to use the CD changer inputs.  I'm
not sure how to approach that yet, may need an o-scope to sample the
signals.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  I think those fader "swithces" are just variable resistors/potentiometer

things. put a meter on it and see what it does.

Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but
any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass
it
and use the "native" function.

Again, I don't know about Beckers but I was looking at the schematic for
the radio in my truck, which I liberated from the 2000 Suburban when I
put
a new unit in there.  I want to put an aux input for an ipod or a
bluetooth
module, and the way to do that is to tap into the cassette line.  The
unit
itself has a remote cassette player that uses that line so just a matter
of
putting the wires and a mini-plug socket somewhere near the unit.  Of
course this is on my "to-do" list...  Some people have found success by
just opening up the unit and looking at the board or inputs and just
tapping/splicing into the proper wire or trace or plug or something on
the
main board -- apparently most of them are annotated on the boards or it
is
easy enough to see what goes where.

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The issue is that the fader gets two-channel input (only two wires), and
outputs four-channels (only four wires).  The _ground_ or _negative_ signal
to the speakers doesn't go through the fader, it goes from the radio
through connector X48H and X48G, which are not listed in the FSM index of
connector locations.  I suspect they are somewhere under the center
console.  So I would need to run two more wires to that fader socket for
either the front or the rear speakers, OR I could go directly to the front
speakers from the radio (those connectors are readily available right
behind the radio hole), and then jumper the fader input wires to the rear
speaker signals.  Unfortunately the electrical diagram from the FSM does
not give pin numbers at the fader socket, so I guess that will be trial and
error with a 9v battery.

I'm concerned because I've read in several forum posts that modern radios
don't like how Mercedes grounded the speakers in the 80's, now I need to
see how the Becker 1492 installation compares to my 87 wagon, maybe in
'94/'95 Mercedes continued with its speaker grounding method and the 1492
won't care.

I'd like to put the Aux Input plug in the hole for the fader.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You could just clip a jumper across the terminals for each side and turn
> the fader "off" -- that will create the easy path for the electrons to
> flow.  Won't bugger the switch.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 6/19/15 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rich.  I think the easy route will be to bypass the fader, I'd like
>> to figure out how to do that without cutting off the fader connector so
>> that it can be restored to stock in the future.  I'm not having much luck
>> finding a DIY on the intertubes for which pins to jumper (or run new wires
>> to) in order to route sound signal to the rear speakers.
>>
>> Aux input: yes, it looks like hacking into the cassette board will be the
>> best option, if I can't figure out how to use the CD changer inputs.  I'm
>> not sure how to approach that yet, may need an o-scope to sample the
>> signals.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I think those fader "swithces" are just variable resistors/potentiometer
>>> things. put a meter on it and see what it does.
>>>
>>> Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but
>>> any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass
>>> it
>>> and use the "native" function.
>>>
>>> Again, I don't know about Beckers but I was looking at the schematic for
>>> the radio in my truck, which I liberated from the 2000 Suburban when I
>>> put
>>> a new unit in there.  I want to put an aux input for an ipod or a
>>> bluetooth
>>> module, and the way to do that is to tap into the cassette line.  The
>>> unit
>>> itself has a remote cassette player that uses that line so just a matter
>>> of
>>> putting the wires and a mini-plug socket somewhere near the unit.  Of
>>> course this is on my "to-do" list...  Some people have found success by
>>> just opening up the unit and looking at the board or inputs and just
>>> tapping/splicing into the proper wire or trace or plug or something on
>>> the
>>> main board -- apparently most of them are annotated on the boards or it
>>> is
>>> easy enough to see what goes where.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You could just clip a jumper across the terminals for each side and turn 
the fader "off" -- that will create the easy path for the electrons to 
flow.  Won't bugger the switch.


--R



On 6/19/15 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks Rich.  I think the easy route will be to bypass the fader, I'd like
to figure out how to do that without cutting off the fader connector so
that it can be restored to stock in the future.  I'm not having much luck
finding a DIY on the intertubes for which pins to jumper (or run new wires
to) in order to route sound signal to the rear speakers.

Aux input: yes, it looks like hacking into the cassette board will be the
best option, if I can't figure out how to use the CD changer inputs.  I'm
not sure how to approach that yet, may need an o-scope to sample the
signals.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I think those fader "swithces" are just variable resistors/potentiometer
things. put a meter on it and see what it does.

Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but
any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass it
and use the "native" function.

Again, I don't know about Beckers but I was looking at the schematic for
the radio in my truck, which I liberated from the 2000 Suburban when I put
a new unit in there.  I want to put an aux input for an ipod or a bluetooth
module, and the way to do that is to tap into the cassette line.  The unit
itself has a remote cassette player that uses that line so just a matter of
putting the wires and a mini-plug socket somewhere near the unit.  Of
course this is on my "to-do" list...  Some people have found success by
just opening up the unit and looking at the board or inputs and just
tapping/splicing into the proper wire or trace or plug or something on the
main board -- apparently most of them are annotated on the boards or it is
easy enough to see what goes where.

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

If you leave the fader connected for the rears, a rear-seat
passenger can lean forward and turn down his own volume when
you're making it too loud in back!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Rich.  I think the easy route will be to bypass the fader, I'd like
to figure out how to do that without cutting off the fader connector so
that it can be restored to stock in the future.  I'm not having much luck
finding a DIY on the intertubes for which pins to jumper (or run new wires
to) in order to route sound signal to the rear speakers.

Aux input: yes, it looks like hacking into the cassette board will be the
best option, if I can't figure out how to use the CD changer inputs.  I'm
not sure how to approach that yet, may need an o-scope to sample the
signals.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think those fader "swithces" are just variable resistors/potentiometer
> things. put a meter on it and see what it does.
>
> Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but
> any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass it
> and use the "native" function.
>
> Again, I don't know about Beckers but I was looking at the schematic for
> the radio in my truck, which I liberated from the 2000 Suburban when I put
> a new unit in there.  I want to put an aux input for an ipod or a bluetooth
> module, and the way to do that is to tap into the cassette line.  The unit
> itself has a remote cassette player that uses that line so just a matter of
> putting the wires and a mini-plug socket somewhere near the unit.  Of
> course this is on my "to-do" list...  Some people have found success by
> just opening up the unit and looking at the board or inputs and just
> tapping/splicing into the proper wire or trace or plug or something on the
> main board -- apparently most of them are annotated on the boards or it is
> easy enough to see what goes where.
>
> --R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I think those fader "swithces" are just variable resistors/potentiometer 
things. put a meter on it and see what it does.


Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but 
any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass 
it and use the "native" function.


Again, I don't know about Beckers but I was looking at the schematic for 
the radio in my truck, which I liberated from the 2000 Suburban when I 
put a new unit in there.  I want to put an aux input for an ipod or a 
bluetooth module, and the way to do that is to tap into the cassette 
line.  The unit itself has a remote cassette player that uses that line 
so just a matter of putting the wires and a mini-plug socket somewhere 
near the unit.  Of course this is on my "to-do" list...  Some people 
have found success by just opening up the unit and looking at the board 
or inputs and just tapping/splicing into the proper wire or trace or 
plug or something on the main board -- apparently most of them are 
annotated on the boards or it is easy enough to see what goes where.


--R



On 6/19/15 7:53 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Dan,

Thanks for that info on the CD changer port.  I've got a couple of old CD
changers, not sure if either works, maybe I can enlist Rich to figure out
what the CD changer is saying to the radio to make the CD input active.

I have seen a couple of "hacks" to solder the aux cables to the cassette
tape board, that doesn't look too bad.  One hack required that a gutted
tape be inserted in the tape player to make the tape input active, but I
wonder if the radio would then count down the 30 hours and then call for
the head cleaning.

I still need to decide how to tackle the fader switch.  Perhaps the only
redeeming feature of the so-called "installation" job done to the car
earlier is that they didn't mess with the fader switch and wiring.

If I keep the fader switch, do I only feed it the front speaker signals
from the 1492, or should I combine the front and rear signals (more power)
to feed the fader?  My gut tells me that combining the signals is a bad
idea, so if no one can answer that I'll probably only feed either the front
or the rear signals to the fader.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Max,

In researching possible mods to the 1492s in my W140 chassis cars, I
looked at the CD changer inputs and determined that they cannot be used for
auxiliary inputs.  This is due to the need for a signal to be coming back
from the changer for the changer input to be active.  It’s not something
you can “fake”, either.

I believe the Becker folks do it by connecting to the tape head on the
cassette player section in order to get it to work.

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan,

Thanks for that info on the CD changer port.  I've got a couple of old CD
changers, not sure if either works, maybe I can enlist Rich to figure out
what the CD changer is saying to the radio to make the CD input active.

I have seen a couple of "hacks" to solder the aux cables to the cassette
tape board, that doesn't look too bad.  One hack required that a gutted
tape be inserted in the tape player to make the tape input active, but I
wonder if the radio would then count down the 30 hours and then call for
the head cleaning.

I still need to decide how to tackle the fader switch.  Perhaps the only
redeeming feature of the so-called "installation" job done to the car
earlier is that they didn't mess with the fader switch and wiring.

If I keep the fader switch, do I only feed it the front speaker signals
from the 1492, or should I combine the front and rear signals (more power)
to feed the fader?  My gut tells me that combining the signals is a bad
idea, so if no one can answer that I'll probably only feed either the front
or the rear signals to the fader.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Max,
>
> In researching possible mods to the 1492s in my W140 chassis cars, I
> looked at the CD changer inputs and determined that they cannot be used for
> auxiliary inputs.  This is due to the need for a signal to be coming back
> from the changer for the changer input to be active.  It’s not something
> you can “fake”, either.
>
> I believe the Becker folks do it by connecting to the tape head on the
> cassette player section in order to get it to work.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Max,

In researching possible mods to the 1492s in my W140 chassis cars, I looked at 
the CD changer inputs and determined that they cannot be used for auxiliary 
inputs.  This is due to the need for a signal to be coming back from the 
changer for the changer input to be active.  It’s not something you can “fake”, 
either.

I believe the Becker folks do it by connecting to the tape head on the cassette 
player section in order to get it to work.

Dan





> On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jaime,
> 
> The aftermarket Sony radio in my '87 wagon finally died, and whomever
> installed it really hacked up the factory wiring.  Some of the original
> connectors appear to be there, I found two.  Looks like the factory radio
> should have been a Becker Grand Prix, model 754.
> 
> I've got a spare Becker 1492, which I'd like to install.  This afternoon I
> went by a local pick-n-pull and from a W202 I cut the radio connectors and
> about a foot of the factory wiring, so I have connectors that fit into the
> back of the 1492 including the CD changer port.
> 
> Q1: What to do with the nearly-dead fader switch in the center console?
> Should I bypass, or bite the bullet and get a new fader switch.  If bypass,
> have you got a wiring diagram?  I have already tried a thorough cleaning
> with De-Ox-It, which helped a little, but it is still pretty miserable.
> 
> Q2: The 1492 has a connection port for a CD changer, but I have no such
> thing in the wagon.  Have you a wiring diagram so I can make an aux input
> connection?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Jaime,

The aftermarket Sony radio in my '87 wagon finally died, and whomever
installed it really hacked up the factory wiring.  Some of the original
connectors appear to be there, I found two.  Looks like the factory radio
should have been a Becker Grand Prix, model 754.

I've got a spare Becker 1492, which I'd like to install.  This afternoon I
went by a local pick-n-pull and from a W202 I cut the radio connectors and
about a foot of the factory wiring, so I have connectors that fit into the
back of the 1492 including the CD changer port.

Q1: What to do with the nearly-dead fader switch in the center console?
Should I bypass, or bite the bullet and get a new fader switch.  If bypass,
have you got a wiring diagram?  I have already tried a thorough cleaning
with De-Ox-It, which helped a little, but it is still pretty miserable.

Q2: The 1492 has a connection port for a CD changer, but I have no such
thing in the wagon.  Have you a wiring diagram so I can make an aux input
connection?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime type prices

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Hey Kaleb.. when are you going to show pictures of the Gull Wing you got
out of Cuba?  ;)))

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime

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Oh….I didn’t even know the 280SE was for sale.  It looked like a sweet car!

Jon


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> At the moment I have:
> 79 300SD -> same one I've had for years, will probably get some significant
> attention this winter.
> 67 300SEL -> on going project for the last three years
> 83 300D -> will be sold shortly, i'm bored of it
> 83 300SD ->  just bought for cheap, to replace the 300D as a daily driver.
> 15 GLK250 BT -> company car
> 
> Yesterday I sold the brown 70 280SE.  So I'm looking for more :-)
> 
> So, you want to buy something?
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime

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At the moment I have:
79 300SD -> same one I've had for years, will probably get some significant
attention this winter.
67 300SEL -> on going project for the last three years
83 300D -> will be sold shortly, i'm bored of it
83 300SD ->  just bought for cheap, to replace the 300D as a daily driver.
15 GLK250 BT -> company car

Yesterday I sold the brown 70 280SE.  So I'm looking for more :-)

So, you want to buy something?

Jaime





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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

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That is about what my 02 w220 does.  I get within 100 feet of the place most 
days.

clay

On Jul 29, 2014, at 3:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

> Hi Ned,
> 
> Updated maps are released annually.  My department does the final testing
> on them.
> 
> And house numbers are certainly available... usually down to the precision
> of one block.  What isn't available is an interpolation to position the
> destination exactly on that block (which is often inaccurate in other
> systems for a variety of reasons).  But if you have a street several miles
> long, you should be able to choose from a range of house numbers in the
> form of something like 1..99, 101..199, etc.  This also depends on map
> data:  if you live in a rural area, you'll greatly benefit from a new disc
> as detailed coverage has improved significantly.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have the original window sticker from my recently acquired 2006 E320 CDI.
>> 
>> It shows a Comand system including harmon/kardon Logic7 surround sound with
>> a 6 CD changer and DVD navigation.  The Command system along with a glass
>> sun -roof, powered rear window shade, and heated front seats cost the PO
>> $2950.  It also has a $500 Sirius Satellite, which I’ve never activated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The sound system is awesome.  It puts out something like 430 watts to more
>> speakers than I can find.  And the tuner gets great reception in spite of
>> the antenna being embedded in the back window.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But the navigation system is lame.  My circa 2008 Garmin Nuvi runs rings
>> around it.   This Comand unit can only navigate to a street or road.  There
>> seems to be no way to key in a house number.  Makes it worse than useless
>> in communities where there are multiple roads with the same name but each
>> has different ranges of house numbers.  I think the navigation system can
>> be updated by inserting a new DVD in the trunk-mounted unit.  But I have
>> never seen an update newer than 2008.   And that update costs about 2X or
>> 3X the price of a new Garmin.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It’s reassuring to hear the Comand is robust.  If it goes bad many readouts
>> on the dash would quit working.   Even the analog clock in the dash is
>> controlled by the navigation system.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

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I take umbrage at the crack at the 8 track.  I resemble that remark in my SL.  
Right now I am trying to get the damn cassette adapter to spin up tapes.  The 8 
tracks play fine

clay

On Jul 28, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2014 10:52 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"
>> 
>> We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I
> wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the
> outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
> 
> Of course I'd prefer to stick with my phone which is more or less always up
> to date and my trusty 1999 Rand McNally (probably due for an update), but
> the car comes with nav and it takes up a lot of prominent real estate on
> the dash.  Need to know I can expect to use it for the duration even though
> by time I'll be done with the car it will look as quaint as an in-dash 8
> track player does today.
> 
> Kids these days sure get a kick out of the tape deck in the 140.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

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Hi Ned,

Updated maps are released annually.  My department does the final testing
on them.

And house numbers are certainly available... usually down to the precision
of one block.  What isn't available is an interpolation to position the
destination exactly on that block (which is often inaccurate in other
systems for a variety of reasons).  But if you have a street several miles
long, you should be able to choose from a range of house numbers in the
form of something like 1..99, 101..199, etc.  This also depends on map
data:  if you live in a rural area, you'll greatly benefit from a new disc
as detailed coverage has improved significantly.

Jaime



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have the original window sticker from my recently acquired 2006 E320 CDI.
>
> It shows a Comand system including harmon/kardon Logic7 surround sound with
> a 6 CD changer and DVD navigation.  The Command system along with a glass
> sun -roof, powered rear window shade, and heated front seats cost the PO
> $2950.  It also has a $500 Sirius Satellite, which I’ve never activated.
>
>
>
> The sound system is awesome.  It puts out something like 430 watts to more
> speakers than I can find.  And the tuner gets great reception in spite of
> the antenna being embedded in the back window.
>
>
>
> But the navigation system is lame.  My circa 2008 Garmin Nuvi runs rings
> around it.   This Comand unit can only navigate to a street or road.  There
> seems to be no way to key in a house number.  Makes it worse than useless
> in communities where there are multiple roads with the same name but each
> has different ranges of house numbers.  I think the navigation system can
> be updated by inserting a new DVD in the trunk-mounted unit.  But I have
> never seen an update newer than 2008.   And that update costs about 2X or
> 3X the price of a new Garmin.
>
>
>
> It’s reassuring to hear the Comand is robust.  If it goes bad many readouts
> on the dash would quit working.   Even the analog clock in the dash is
> controlled by the navigation system.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[ned kleinhenz via Mercedes]

I have the original window sticker from my recently acquired 2006 E320 CDI.

It shows a Comand system including harmon/kardon Logic7 surround sound with
a 6 CD changer and DVD navigation.  The Command system along with a glass
sun -roof, powered rear window shade, and heated front seats cost the PO
$2950.  It also has a $500 Sirius Satellite, which I’ve never activated.



The sound system is awesome.  It puts out something like 430 watts to more
speakers than I can find.  And the tuner gets great reception in spite of
the antenna being embedded in the back window.



But the navigation system is lame.  My circa 2008 Garmin Nuvi runs rings
around it.   This Comand unit can only navigate to a street or road.  There
seems to be no way to key in a house number.  Makes it worse than useless
in communities where there are multiple roads with the same name but each
has different ranges of house numbers.  I think the navigation system can
be updated by inserting a new DVD in the trunk-mounted unit.  But I have
never seen an update newer than 2008.   And that update costs about 2X or
3X the price of a new Garmin.



It’s reassuring to hear the Comand is robust.  If it goes bad many readouts
on the dash would quit working.   Even the analog clock in the dash is
controlled by the navigation system.



Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

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On Jul 28, 2014 10:52 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"
>
> We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I
wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the
outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map...
>
> -Curt
>

Of course I'd prefer to stick with my phone which is more or less always up
to date and my trusty 1999 Rand McNally (probably due for an update), but
the car comes with nav and it takes up a lot of prominent real estate on
the dash.  Need to know I can expect to use it for the duration even though
by time I'll be done with the car it will look as quaint as an in-dash 8
track player does today.

Kids these days sure get a kick out of the tape deck in the 140.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Amazing!  Paper still works.   ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!


When we went to Michigan last month I bought a new navigation system at our 
local sporting goods store. Its put out by National Geographic and has 
pressed wood fibers between two plastic layers. I like the plastic layers 
for protecting the wood fibers. Its large but thin, kind of like a serving 
tray and fits nicely between the seat and the center console. It covers all 
of North America which makes for fun browsing as you drive.


We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I 
wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the 
outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map...


-Curt



From: Gary Hurst via Mercedes 
To: Jaime Kopchinski ; Mercedes Discussion List 


Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!


i bought my navigation system at the gay thrift shop. it's pretty nice and
used to be on a ship. it's brass and was in a wood box but i took it out
of the box


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Hi Tom,

The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is 
still

reliable and stable. And, a huge advantage: Becker Autosound can service
and repair the components at a reasonable price. I think the high end
logic7 sound system is outstanding as well.

Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well.

Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern
phones.

Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one.

Jaime



On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage  wrote:

> Jaime, I need help, too!
>
> I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007. I have paid zero
> attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the
> newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system
> solid? What about upgradability?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> It turns out 140s do rust, after all
>


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

When we went to Michigan last month I bought a new navigation system at our 
local sporting goods store. Its put out by National Geographic and has pressed 
wood fibers between two plastic layers. I like the plastic layers for 
protecting the wood fibers. Its large but thin, kind of like a serving tray and 
fits nicely between the seat and the center console. It covers all of North 
America which makes for fun browsing as you drive.

We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I wasn't 
sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the outbound ride but 
the rest of the trip was all with a paper map...

-Curt



 From: Gary Hurst via Mercedes 
To: Jaime Kopchinski ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
 

i bought my navigation system at the gay thrift shop.  it's pretty nice and
used to be on a ship.  it's brass and was in a wood box but i took it out
of the box


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still
> reliable and stable.  And, a huge advantage:  Becker Autosound can service
> and repair the components at a reasonable price.  I think the high end
> logic7 sound system is outstanding as well.
>
> Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well.
>
> Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern
> phones.
>
> Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage  wrote:
>
> > Jaime, I need help, too!
> >
> > I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007.  I have paid zero
> > attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the
> > newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system
> > solid?  What about upgradability?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> > It turns out 140s do rust, after all
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

i bought my navigation system at the gay thrift shop.  it's pretty nice and
used to be on a ship.  it's brass and was in a wood box but i took it out
of the box


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> Hi Tom,
>
> The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still
> reliable and stable.  And, a huge advantage:  Becker Autosound can service
> and repair the components at a reasonable price.  I think the high end
> logic7 sound system is outstanding as well.
>
> Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well.
>
> Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern
> phones.
>
> Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage  wrote:
>
> > Jaime, I need help, too!
> >
> > I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007.  I have paid zero
> > attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the
> > newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system
> > solid?  What about upgradability?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> > It turns out 140s do rust, after all
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Hi Tom,

The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still
reliable and stable.  And, a huge advantage:  Becker Autosound can service
and repair the components at a reasonable price.  I think the high end
logic7 sound system is outstanding as well.

Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well.

Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern
phones.

Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one.

Jaime



On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage  wrote:

> Jaime, I need help, too!
>
> I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007.  I have paid zero
> attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the
> newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system
> solid?  What about upgradability?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> It turns out 140s do rust, after all
>


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Tom Savage via Mercedes]

Jaime, I need help, too!

I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007.  I have paid zero
attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the
newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system
solid?  What about upgradability?

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Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

red bank is an expensive town, so much so that i couldn' afford a beer
there and jaime had to buy me one


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> Agreed... I'll keep an eye on it.  Your post was good... its true she's at
> top dollar already.  I'd guess she's using what they paid for it two years
> ago as a reference, which might make her somewhat rigid in her price.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > I believe this might be in your neighborhood?
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2093378-sale-450-sl-red-bank-nj.html#post9598042
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Agreed... I'll keep an eye on it.  Your post was good... its true she's at
top dollar already.  I'd guess she's using what they paid for it two years
ago as a reference, which might make her somewhat rigid in her price.

Jaime



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> I believe this might be in your neighborhood?
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2093378-sale-450-sl-red-bank-nj.html#post9598042
>
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[MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I believe this might be in your neighborhood?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2093378-sale-450-sl-red-bank-nj.html#post9598042

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime!!!

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Oh man... Maybe a little too rough for me!

On Friday, May 2, 2014, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Quick before Andrew snaps it up!
>
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[Meade Dillon]

Quick before Andrew snaps it up!

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

[Peter Frederick]

Yeah, but it doesn't go 800 miles between fillups either.

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well the 420 does feel like a diesel compared to a 560

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> On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
> I agree that the SDL is the one to get.  The 420 never felt powerful enough
> for me to warrant the extra two cylinders.  M103 powered 126s aren't so
> bad... not fast, but a good all around car.  I'd get one.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Tim Crone  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2014 8:39 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember mine as ~ 28 mpg.
>> 
>> My records say the 300SDL got 22-25.  All in town, and mostly short trips
>> at that.  It never felt underpowered to me.
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[Peter Frederick]

Any W126 is a good car.  The 560's are gas hogs, but otherwise very  
very nice.  Best one of the bunch is the SDL as far as I'm concerned  
-- good performance, excellent milage.


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

[Jaime Kopchinski]

I agree that the SDL is the one to get.  The 420 never felt powerful enough
for me to warrant the extra two cylinders.  M103 powered 126s aren't so
bad... not fast, but a good all around car.  I'd get one.

Jaime



On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Tim Crone  wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2014 8:39 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
> >
> > I remember mine as ~ 28 mpg.
>
> My records say the 300SDL got 22-25.  All in town, and mostly short trips
> at that.  It never felt underpowered to me.
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On Feb 8, 2014 8:39 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>
> I remember mine as ~ 28 mpg.

My records say the 300SDL got 22-25.  All in town, and mostly short trips
at that.  It never felt underpowered to me.

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[OK Don]

I remember mine as ~ 28 mpg.


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> You want the SDL then --
>>
>
> Indeed.  Ours never felt underpowered,
> and it turned in a pretty reliable 27MPG.
> I think best-ever was 31MPG.
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

[Jim Cathey]

You want the SDL then --


Indeed.  Ours never felt underpowered,
and it turned in a pretty reliable 27MPG.
I think best-ever was 31MPG.

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[OK Don]

You want the SDL then --


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

>
> I always wanted a 300SEL (W126 chassis, that is.)  I know it would
> probably be a little underpowered, but an economical car to drive with a
> big ass passenger compartment.
>
> Dan
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

[Peter Frederick]

Sadly the 420 usually gets better gas milage along with more power,  
the M103 in that car is a bit breathless.  No better than my TE, at  
any rate -- 19 mpg on the highway, probably a bit better when I get  
the gas leak fixed (again).


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

[Dan Penoff]

He's pretty desperate.  Show up with money in hand and $500 might get you the 
car.

I always wanted a 300SEL (W126 chassis, that is.)  I know it would probably be 
a little underpowered, but an economical car to drive with a big ass passenger 
compartment.

Dan


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> Oh man... thats pretty rough!  $500, maybe.
> 
> If it had a trailer hitch I might be interested.  I still need a tow car.
> 
> Thanks for the heads up...
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> 1984 Euro 280SE wife wants it gone Northern NJ.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1815274-1984-280se-euro-sale-new-jersey.html#post6774906
>> 
>> Dan
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[Jaime Kopchinski]

Oh man... thats pretty rough!  $500, maybe.

If it had a trailer hitch I might be interested.  I still need a tow car.

Thanks for the heads up...
Jaime



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>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1815274-1984-280se-euro-sale-new-jersey.html#post6774906
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Another Orphan!!

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it's true, penoff.  it took you a damn long time to figure it out though


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> Not only are you sexy, you're funny, too!
>
> Oy.
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > jaime is an orphan?  oh dear!  maybe gordon can adopt him and feed him
> okra
> > with lentils
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
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> >> 1984 Euro 280SE wife wants it gone Northern NJ.
> >>
> >>
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