Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control
Happy ending! Keeping the coolant clean will get the max life out of the unit. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Douglas jgi...@comcast.net wrote: Well today I opened the Servo up and though it seemed to work fine using the driveway mechanic write up. I couldn't get it to park when the servo was moved to Heat. Looking at the diagram I realized that the connection for the park circuit makes ground through the Amplifier. Thus taking the top off and cleaning a bit of corrosion from the wiper contacts. I cycled through my collection of Amps and found the ones that worked and the ones that did not. This time I marked them. It seems to work now. I will leave the amp hanging so I can get to it for some time. Thanks to the list with this help. Douglas - -- OK Don W124 Diesels Ubuntu 8.10 KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090222/c469f80d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Well I am beginning to feel that this is going to be the way I end up. Hate the price but it will make the car as it should be. the only thing I have to do is convince my SO. Douglas I sell the Unwired Tools kit for $675.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: John Robbins je...@msstate.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control. Ralph W wrote: My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Can only find used or rebuilt units. Both still have the same inherent problems, and will eventually fail. Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. I think so, and it is *expensive*!! Think four digits. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Possible but not likely. And if you do find a good one, it will be really close to the price of the aftermarket electronic replacement This is really the only solution unless you want to roll your own... it is pricey, but maintains full functionality of the original system. Maybe not something you want to spend on a free car, but there it is... http://unwiredtools.com/accii.asp HTH! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Douglas - I doubt the friction is caused by lack of lube, more likely junk in the coolant binding up the works. Barry Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
you will need to replace the servo, I dont think anybody can tell you want type of grease to use because nobody has ever been able to rebuild them. I think you will find when you get it apart its going to need more than grease to keep it from getting stuck. Douglas wrote: Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? Douglas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Are they interchangeable with 123's? Any advice would be appreciated. It's not often I can actually return a favor or two for my Indy. Ralph W. 2001 E320 wagon 1983 300CD 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1982 300TD parts wagon On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: you will need to replace the servo, I dont think anybody can tell you want type of grease to use because nobody has ever been able to rebuild them. I think you will find when you get it apart its going to need more than grease to keep it from getting stuck. Douglas wrote: Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? Douglas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090219/b84a5900/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
barry Stark wrote: Douglas - I doubt the friction is caused by lack of lube, more likely junk in the coolant binding up the works. They do make aftermarket coolant filters. I'll have to look into that when I start driving my W116 again. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
you will need to replace the servo, I dont think anybody can tell you want type of grease to use because nobody has ever been able to rebuild them. I think you will find when you get it apart its going to need more than grease to keep it from getting stuck. George Murphy's article on fixing them looks pretty plausible to me. It's about 6MB of PDF. I hope I never have to try it. My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Are they interchangeable with 123's? They've gone up to obscenely expensive, if they're even still available. Good used are few and far between. That's why the re-engineered digital system is now available. All the servos are interchangeable, even the ones from Chryslers IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Ralph W wrote: My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Can only find used or rebuilt units. Both still have the same inherent problems, and will eventually fail. Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. I think so, and it is *expensive*!! Think four digits. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Possible but not likely. And if you do find a good one, it will be really close to the price of the aftermarket electronic replacement This is really the only solution unless you want to roll your own... it is pricey, but maintains full functionality of the original system. Maybe not something you want to spend on a free car, but there it is... http://unwiredtools.com/accii.asp HTH! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
I sell the Unwired Tools kit for $675.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: John Robbins je...@msstate.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control. Ralph W wrote: My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Can only find used or rebuilt units. Both still have the same inherent problems, and will eventually fail. Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. I think so, and it is *expensive*!! Think four digits. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Possible but not likely. And if you do find a good one, it will be really close to the price of the aftermarket electronic replacement This is really the only solution unless you want to roll your own... it is pricey, but maintains full functionality of the original system. Maybe not something you want to spend on a free car, but there it is... http://unwiredtools.com/accii.asp HTH! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I sell the Unwired Tools kit for $675.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 This is the way to go. Clean system, works nicely and efficiently. The installation can be made a bit nicer than the instructions call for, but the product itself is quite sound. This product makes owning an ACCII car worthy of contemplation once again. Servos should be sold on a lease basis. It is only a matter of time until they fail. Regards, Mathieu Cama Old World Automotive Lawrenceville, GA www.oldworldauto.com 404-550-8000 9:30 AM - 5:30 PM Mon-Fri ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Got it thanks. didn't notice Douglas - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control. In my message the URLs wrap and the last letters aren't in the highlighted part. You need to copy and paste the 2 parts then there they are. --R Douglas wrote: WOW! I clicked on the url and got the 404 not found! Douglas. WOW, somebody who actually uses the archives, I am impressed!! Greg Fiorentino wrote: I am struggling with the same problem on the wife's '79 TD. I found some good articles by George Murphy in your archives. The articles include test procedures http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment.pdf http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? Douglas WOW! I clicked on the url and got the 404 not found! Douglas. WOW, somebody who actually uses the archives, I am impressed!! Greg Fiorentino wrote: I am struggling with the same problem on the wife's '79 TD. I found some good articles by George Murphy in your archives. The articles include test procedures http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment.pdf http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? I hear that ground-up 100-dollar bills works all right. There are reasons that some of us call it the Evil Chrysler System From Hell. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
I coughed up the $300+ for a new one shortly after I got the '78 450SLC, then changed the coolant every year - it was still working when I traded the car off. That was some five years of service. I think that a clean coolant system is the secret for max life from the evil chrysler system from hell. YMMV. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? I hear that ground-up 100-dollar bills works all right. There are reasons that some of us call it the Evil Chrysler System From Hell. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don W124 Diesels Ubuntu 8.10 KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090218/a7bb1275/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
WOW! I clicked on the url and got the 404 not found! Douglas. WOW, somebody who actually uses the archives, I am impressed!! Greg Fiorentino wrote: I am struggling with the same problem on the wife's '79 TD. I found some good articles by George Murphy in your archives. The articles include test procedures http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment.pdf http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
In my message the URLs wrap and the last letters aren't in the highlighted part. You need to copy and paste the 2 parts then there they are. --R Douglas wrote: WOW! I clicked on the url and got the 404 not found! Douglas. WOW, somebody who actually uses the archives, I am impressed!! Greg Fiorentino wrote: I am struggling with the same problem on the wife's '79 TD. I found some good articles by George Murphy in your archives. The articles include test procedures http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment.pdf http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
WOW, worked fine for me. Douglas wrote: WOW! I clicked on the url and got the 404 not found! Douglas. Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Yes I have been for the last.. ahh. 2 years working on my climate control. Yes its the hated servo. It seems that it works intermintently and when it fails its stuck on heat. I have several amps and have cycled them all with the same result. The system works for a few days that goes to all heat. That is _the_ symptom of these, is it not? Sticking servo? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
yea, then it burns out the amp if I am not mistaken. Jim Cathey wrote: Yes I have been for the last.. ahh. 2 years working on my climate control. Yes its the hated servo. It seems that it works intermintently and when it fails its stuck on heat. I have several amps and have cycled them all with the same result. The system works for a few days that goes to all heat. That is _the_ symptom of these, is it not? Sticking servo? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
I am struggling with the same problem on the wife's '79 TD. I found some good articles by George Murphy in your archives. The articles include test procedures http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment.pdf http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control. Yes I have been for the last.. ahh. 2 years working on my climate control. Yes its the hated servo. It seems that it works intermintently and when it fails its stuck on heat. I have several amps and have cycled them all with the same result. The system works for a few days that goes to all heat. It seems that when I test the servo by using a 9 volt battery to drive the little motor, then connect the amp all works for a few days then all heat. Now I am thinking that somehow the servo motor does not have enough lubrication and is STUCK. and while in normal mode with the amp it only gets like maybe 4 Volts. Then when I put the 9 Volts to it. the servo frees up! So my question is .. how do I test this I do know the amp works correctly. I have put a meter on the servo.. and run it through the cycle heat and cool. Just was thinking do this test while its not working.. to make sure its on the ball. I know you all hate this system. yes me to it sucks .. though am not ready to throw. $800 for the digital. plus I have been working on this for so so long!.. Any Ideas.. will be taken.. thanks Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090215/0e 4bcb40/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
WOW, somebody who actually uses the archives, I am impressed!! Greg Fiorentino wrote: I am struggling with the same problem on the wife's '79 TD. I found some good articles by George Murphy in your archives. The articles include test procedures http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment.pdf http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4 e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (little more help scott?)
For testing, I'd be inclined to use a cigarette-lighter plug so you can easily connect it and disconnect it. If that does the job, you probably want to tap into the switched power to the blower. Unfortunately, I'm on the road and don't have the CD files with me. But you want to look at the ETM schematic for the ACC. Maybe there is a fuse that's energized only when the ACC is on; in that case you can connect to the back side of the fuse panel which is under the dash. Otherwise, you may need to tap into a wire in the ACC system. I don't currently have the data to advise. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jgiels Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (little more help scott?) As many of you have listened and helped me through this with my car I have still had trouble with it. No I do not care to give up! I am suspecting that the in car sesor just doesn't have enough air flow over it. So I have robbed a bosch aspirator from a later model car and am wanting to test this. Where should I get the 12 Volts for this sucker! I would really like it only active when the climate control is though am unsure were to slice in. I am thinking that I can scab off the radio for testing it though would rather connect to something more esthetic. Thanks.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (little more help scott?)
Where should I get the 12 Volts for this sucker! I would really like it only active when the climate control is though am unsure were to slice in. The normal aspirator runs at all times with the key on, it is not conditional on the ACC being active. (So that it's ready to do the right thing if you were to turn the ACC on, that's what I figure.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control
Jim Cathy was kindly posted this Type II ACC amplifier data at: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html so it is available to others. Be warned that there is more than one version of this circuit, but they are similar. For some reason, the schematic does not show well in a web browser so I recommend viewing it with a graphic app like Paint or MS Picture and Fax viewer. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Sherman Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 21:24 To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control I want to thank the LIST for all the help repairing my climate control. I have been working anywhere from 6-8 hours a day on it for a week straight! Yesterday I went to the pick N pull to get the parts I needed to make a tester for the ACC Amp. The '79 that I was stripping had a amp and a original Servo, took the parts from the servo that I could use. Paid the exorborant price of $28.52 for the stuff I needed. Once home I decided that I would try the Amp. It worked perfectly!! I want to say that Scott really helped me tremedously! Many thanks Scott. I believe that the little Op Amp on the circuit board on both of the acc amps are bad. So my advice to you all is that when you see those original Servo's the amp probably hasn't gotten much use and might be good. And they fit in the pocket. I called Unwiredtools.com today and the support guy Steve gave me some ideas on my vacuum leak said it was probably the double vacuum servo for the defrost. My system leaks down within min. though with the contol panel to off it doesn't. Also at their web site they have a really nice electrical diagram for the climate control am going to scan and enlarge them to see if they are better to read. Scott the more I think about it I think that the OP amp on the ACC seems to short to the cold. Well thanks again.. hope to find that Vacuum leak.. soon.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control
Here tis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Sherman Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 01:05 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control Scott I am looking over the schematics, seems rather well done BTW! You mentioned that you had relevant pages for the electrical troubleshooting manual? Yes I would really like to get them also if its not to much trouble. I think that for some reason the sensor chain could be open to the AMP. Going to check that tomorrow. Though when I select the Defrost the Servo doesn't move from the cold position. Also I would imagine the freon being gone after 2 years. Going to add so to see if it comes on. Thanks Again all for the help Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 80_300.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1501162 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071024/3d249f58/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (w/Servo)
Doug I'm attaching scans of two articles from The Star on the ACC Type II servo. I found these helpful understanding the servo and diagnosing it. I'm also attaching a schematic of the ACC amplifier. I'm still working on it so it may not be perfect. The scan files are big and all attachments will probably be stripped from the list copy. Scott Ritchey 1970 300TD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Sherman Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 18:06 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (w/Servo) I wrote something along these lines though I do not know if it went out so my appologies if this is a repeat. I have been working on my climate control, changed the control panel and then opened the Servo to find that the wires to the motor were off. Resoldered them and the servo motor works though now when I put the motor say in the middle of its swing and turn the ignition on the servo goes to what it thinks is park comes to a halt though still does not stop. The motor stops but the voltage to the motor is still at 8 Volts. It stops moving though because of a mechanical stop limit. Now is there anyone who knows where to spin the valve in the bottom of the servo where this valve engages the motor clockworks is just a cross. Please help! TIA Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Servo Care and Feeding.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2506023 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4e87a1/attachment.pdf -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Servo Repair.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 3807329 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4e87a1/attachment-0001.pdf -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ACC Amp Schematic.ppt Type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint Size: 102400 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071023/8f4e87a1/attachment.ppt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (w/Servo)
Scott Ritchey wrote: The scan files are big and all attachments will probably be stripped from the list copy. Thank you. Kleb, what's up with the server settings? I can never download an attachment in one shot, the server kicks me off after 30-50kb and I have to restart the download. It's sort of a pain to download a picture of an ignition key in 5 pieces, but the bigger attachments are awful. The .pdfs for the climate control articles took me 52 downloads for the 2.4mb one and 91 downloads for the 3.6mb article. Is there any way to set your server to cooperate with those of us downloading through POTS at 3k per second without cutting us off every 10-20 seconds? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control
The A/C system hasn't run in 2 years does that presure switch at the drier cut out on high or low. Just low pressure cutout at that age. Low and high came later. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (w/Servo)
Yes Doug there is, and his name is George Murphy. He knows more about these servos probably than anyone else anywhere. I'll probably get the usual rash of grumblers that we always get when one mentions him but facts are facts. He is the servo expert bar none. He can certainly answer your question but I'm not sure if he will as he has a business to repair servos, but it can't hurt to ask. I think this is current contact info for him but if someone knows differently please chime in. Barry George Murphy Performance Analysis, Inc. 1345 Oak Ridge Turnpike, PMB 258 Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37830 (865) 482-9175 Now is there anyone who knows where to spin the valve in the bottom of the servo where this valve engages the motor clockworks is just a cross. Please help! TIA Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
