subject:"Re\: \[MBZ\] 85 300CD"

I pretty much ran thru all the things it might need after sitting that long to 
get it running. Will need a full service for sure. 

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s easy to make a case on a non-operable car. Just start going down the 
> list of all the things you *can’t* check out and it gets ugly real quick. If 
> the person is unwilling to accept this, make your best offer, walk away, and 
> know that there will be others.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume 
>> risk.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, 
>> what would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be 
>> worth if it’s not running?
>> 
>> (I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)
>> 
>> The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
 drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
 leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
 a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
 body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
 would have several.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com  
 >> wrote:
>> 
>>  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>  the past
>>  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>  interested in
>>  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>  about
>>  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>  All the
>>  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>  spots on
>>  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>  chrome is
>>  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>  time
>>  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>  to see
>>  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>  going to
>>  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>  him want
>>  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>  take
>>  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>  thru
>>  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>  listed for
>>  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>  has
>>  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

It’s easy to make a case on a non-operable car. Just start going down the list 
of all the things you *can’t* check out and it gets ugly real quick. If the 
person is unwilling to accept this, make your best offer, walk away, and know 
that there will be others.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume 
> risk.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, 
> what would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be 
> worth if it’s not running?
> 
> (I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)
> 
> The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
> > 
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> >> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
> >> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> >>> 
> >>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>  Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> >> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> >> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>  I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> >> would have several.
>  
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
>  
>  On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com  
> >> >> wrote:
>  
>    There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>    about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>    the past
>    looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>    interested in
>    selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>    about
>    5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>    All the
>    tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>    Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>    spots on
>    the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>    leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>    Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>    chrome is
>    peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>    Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>    compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>    time
>    seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>    to see
>    that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>    probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>    going to
>    sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>    him want
>    he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>    threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>    take
>    it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>    thru
>    $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>    listed for
>    that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>    deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>    has
>    me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>  
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

2020-04-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume
risk.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running,
> what would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be
> worth if it’s not running?
>
> (I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a
> point.)
>
> The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it
> for a
> >> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the
> mechanicals it
> >> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> >>>
> >>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>  Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> >> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> >> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>  I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> >> would have several.
> 
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
> 
>  On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>    There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>    about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>    the past
>    looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>    interested in
>    selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>    about
>    5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>    All the
>    tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>    Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>    spots on
>    the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>    leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>    Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>    chrome is
>    peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>    Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>    compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>    time
>    seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>    to see
>    that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>    probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>    going to
>    sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>    him want
>    he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>    threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>    take
>    it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>    thru
>    $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>    listed for
>    that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>    deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>    has
>    me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD


I thought the AC was dead.  Oh well, my bad memory I guess.

On 4/28/2020 5:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The AC worked and I was very, very lucky that my buyer got into a bidder’s 
pissing match and got caught on the top. It was a nice car, but not an $8k nice 
car. Maybe $5k-$6k.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things done to 
it.  I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling what would 
happen.  After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no working AC for crazy 
money?

On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.

On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

The AC worked and I was very, very lucky that my buyer got into a bidder’s 
pissing match and got caught on the top. It was a nice car, but not an $8k nice 
car. Maybe $5k-$6k.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things done to 
> it.  I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling what would 
> happen.  After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no working AC for 
> crazy money?
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
>> and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
>> price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
>>> figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
 Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 
 wrote:
 
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals 
> it
> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>> 
>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> would have several.
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>>the past
>>>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>>interested in
>>>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>>about
>>>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>>All the
>>>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>>spots on
>>>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>>chrome is
>>>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>>time
>>>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>>to see
>>>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>>going to
>>>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>>him want
>>>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>>take
>>>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>>thru
>>>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>>listed for
>>>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>>has
>>>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

Yep, I have been watching that thread over there.

On 4/28/2020 5:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.

I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is trying to sell his father
in law’s 1984 380SL. FIL no longer drives and they need some $$ towards his
care. FIL is convinced his 35+ year old car, the red headed stepchild of the
model line, with over 160k on the clock and numerous minor issues, is worth BIG
BUCKS. Why? Because a few years back he saw a Mecum or other high line auction
with a car “just like his” that went for big bucks.

FIL wants to list the car for $9k. Son in law says $6k, knowing it’s a $3k-$4k
car on a very good day. FIL has agreed to list at $6k after protracted begging
from son in law. I told the son in law to get FIL to agree to lower the price
$1000/month for every month it’s listed somewhere. That and keep track of every
offer, no matter how lousy it is, so he can compile a list of offers and show
FIL what the market says it’s worth.

This will be a long, drawn out, painful process, and we all know where it will
end. This is what happens when emotion comes into a transaction.

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I see
them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if they are
selling for that. I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as it sits at that
very moment. He then started to talk about if he wanted to just sell it for
that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get it going. I think he is in
love with the car which adds to it in his mind. He also talked about a
grandson who told him recently he would like to come over and help him get it
running. There is that factor to. As I mentioned before he seems to have a
$7500-$12k figure in his mind for what nice ones go for.

On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Did you explain this to him?

Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay it
out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so they
don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip them
off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that if
they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be
interested at a higher price.

More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few
days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been cleaned
up and is now running.

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants to
get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should get it
running. I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, its been
many years since I have had one. Will end up selling at least 1 of my 240Ds.

On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can
that compare?

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

That’s true

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during a,blizzard. I
was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so body shop restored &
painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i would
have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it 
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.

I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is trying to sell his father 
in law’s 1984 380SL. FIL no longer drives and they need some $$ towards his 
care. FIL is convinced his 35+ year old car, the red headed stepchild of the 
model line, with over 160k on the clock and numerous minor issues, is worth BIG 
BUCKS. Why? Because a few years back he saw a Mecum or other high line auction 
with a car “just like his” that went for big bucks.

FIL wants to list the car for $9k. Son in law says $6k, knowing it’s a $3k-$4k 
car on a very good day. FIL has agreed to list at $6k after protracted begging 
from son in law. I told the son in law to get FIL to agree to lower the price 
$1000/month for every month it’s listed somewhere. That and keep track of every 
offer, no matter how lousy it is, so he can compile a list of offers and show 
FIL what the market says it’s worth.

This will be a long, drawn out, painful process, and we all know where it will 
end. This is what happens when emotion comes into a transaction.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I see 
> them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if they are 
> selling for that.  I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as it sits at 
> that very moment.  He then started to talk about if he wanted to just sell it 
> for that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get it going.  I think he 
> is in love with the car which adds to it in his mind.  He also talked about a 
> grandson who told him recently he would like to come over and help him get it 
> running.  There is that factor to.  As I mentioned before he seems to have a 
> $7500-$12k figure in his mind for what nice ones go for.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you explain this to him?
>> 
>> Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay 
>> it out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, 
>> so they don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to 
>> rip them off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) 
>> that if they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might 
>> be interested at a higher price.
>> 
>> More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
>> days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been 
>> cleaned up and is now running.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he 
>>> wants to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he 
>>> should get it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get 
>>> a turbo, its been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at 
>>> least 1 of my 240Ds.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
 that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t 
 run. How can that compare?
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s true
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it 
>> for a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the 
>> mechanicals it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>> 
 On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
 a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 
 so body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
 I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
 would have several.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
  All the
  tires we

Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things 
done to it.  I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling 
what would happen.  After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no 
working AC for crazy money?


On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.

On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

Mmmm, good point. A CDI properly sorted is a wonderful modern MB. Even my 
eldest’s 2005 with nearly 350k on it is still a very pleasant car to drive. 
Much nicer than a CD.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you explain this to him?
> 
> Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay 
> it out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so 
> they don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip 
> them off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that 
> if they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be 
> interested at a higher price.
> 
> More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
> days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been 
> cleaned up and is now running.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants 
>> to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should 
>> get it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, 
>> its been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at least 1 of 
>> my 240Ds.
>> 
>> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
>>> that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. 
>>> How can that compare?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That’s true
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for 
> a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the 
> mechanicals it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
>>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>>> would have several.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>> about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>> the past
>>> looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>> interested in
>>> selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>> about
>>> 5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>> All the
>>> tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>> Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>> spots on
>>> the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>> leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>> Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>> chrome is
>>> peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>> Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>> compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>> time
>>> seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>> to see
>>> that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>> probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>> going to
>>> sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>> him want
>>> he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>> threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>> take
>>> it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>> thru
>>> $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>> listed for
>>> that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>> deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>> has
>>> me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I
see them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if
they are selling for that. I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as
it sits at that very moment. He then started to talk about if he wanted
to just sell it for that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get
it going. I think he is in love with the car which adds to it in his
mind. He also talked about a grandson who told him recently he would
like to come over and help him get it running. There is that factor
to. As I mentioned before he seems to have a $7500-$12k figure in his
mind for what nice ones go for.

On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Did you explain this to him?

More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few
days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been cleaned
up and is now running.

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can
that compare?

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

That’s true

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD. He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today. Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good. Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure. It is a smoke silver with tan
leather. Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it. Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off. Wheels are chromed and peeling. Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor. I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close. Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess. He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again. I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind. I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it. Just said he would think about it. He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape. I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that. Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
> figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
>>> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
>>> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
 
 On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
>>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
>>> would have several.
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>the past
>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>interested in
>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>about
>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>All the
>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>spots on
>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>chrome is
>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>time
>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>to see
>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>going to
>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>him want
>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>take
>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>thru
>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>listed for
>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>has
>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

I am sure I could have thrown a battery in it and I bet it would start 
right up.  Knowing the guy (who is Jewish BTW which may factor in, sorry 
if I offended any of our Jewish friends) I figure it probably runs 
good.  I was make the offer as is trying to make it seem like it will 
take a lot more to get it running that what I am betting it needs.  On 
the other hand, it may have zero compression and not run at all, or 
maybe the tank is full of algae.


On 4/28/2020 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, what 
would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be worth if 
it’s not running?

(I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)

The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

   There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
   about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
   the past
   looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
   interested in
   selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
   about
   5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
   All the
   tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
   Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
   spots on
   the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
   leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
   Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
   chrome is
   peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
   Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
   compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
   time
   seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
   to see
   that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
   probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
   going to
   sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
   him want
   he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
   threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
   take
   it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
   thru
   $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
   listed for
   that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
   deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
   has
   me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

Did you explain this to him?

Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay it 
out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so they 
don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip them 
off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that if 
they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be 
interested at a higher price.

More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been cleaned 
up and is now running.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants 
> to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should get 
> it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, its 
> been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at least 1 of my 
> 240Ds.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
>> that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. 
>> How can that compare?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s true
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for 
 a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals 
 it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> 
>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>> would have several.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>  the past
>>  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>  interested in
>>  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>  about
>>  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>  All the
>>  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>  spots on
>>  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>  chrome is
>>  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>  time
>>  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>  to see
>>  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>  going to
>>  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>  him want
>>  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>  take
>>  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>  thru
>>  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>  listed for
>>  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>  has
>>  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically 
so I figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.


On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, what 
would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be worth if 
it’s not running?

(I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)

The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
>> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
>> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
 I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
>> would have several.

 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

   There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
   about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
   the past
   looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
   interested in
   selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
   about
   5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
   All the
   tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
   Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
   spots on
   the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
   leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
   Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
   chrome is
   peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
   Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
   compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
   time
   seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
   to see
   that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
   probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
   going to
   sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
   him want
   he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
   threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
   take
   it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
   thru
   $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
   listed for
   that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
   deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
   has
   me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he
wants to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he
should get it running. I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to
get a turbo, its been many years since I have had one. Will end up
selling at least 1 of my 240Ds.

On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can
that compare?

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

That’s true

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D

On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

2020-04-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> >
> > On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
> >> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> would have several.
> >>
> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
> >>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
> >>the past
> >>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
> >>interested in
> >>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
> >>about
> >>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
> >>All the
> >>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
> >>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
> >>spots on
> >>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
> >>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
> >>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
> >>chrome is
> >>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
> >>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
> >>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
> >>time
> >>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
> >>to see
> >>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
> >>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
> >>going to
> >>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
> >>him want
> >>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
> >>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
> >>take
> >>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
> >>thru
> >>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
> >>listed for
> >>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
> >>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
> >>has
> >>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s 
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can 
that compare?

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s true 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
>> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
>> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>> 
 On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
 a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
 body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
 I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
 would have several.

 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI

> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
  All the
  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
  spots on
  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
  chrome is
  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
  time
  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
  to see
  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
  going to
  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
  him want
  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
  take
  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
  thru
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

That’s true 

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
>>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>>> would have several.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>>   about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>>   the past
>>>   looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>>   interested in
>>>   selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>>   about
>>>   5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
>>>   All the
>>>   tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>>   Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>>   spots on
>>>   the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>>   leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>>   Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>>   chrome is
>>>   peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>>   Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>>   compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>>   time
>>>   seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>>   to see
>>>   that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>>   probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>>   going to
>>>   sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>>   him want
>>>   he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>>   threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>>   take
>>>   it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>>   thru
>>>   $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>>   listed for
>>>   that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>>   deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>>   has
>>>   me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so body 
>> shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i would 
>> have several.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>the past
>>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>interested in
>>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>about
>>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
>>All the
>>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>spots on
>>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>chrome is
>>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>time
>>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>to see
>>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>going to
>>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>him want
>>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>take
>>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>thru
>>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>listed for
>>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>has
>>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD


Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 
so body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
would have several.


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

2020-04-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
> about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in the past
> looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be interested in
> selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting about
> 5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.  All the
> tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
> Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of spots on
> the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
> leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
> Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the chrome is
> peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
> Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
> compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first time
> seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting to see
> that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner.  It was
> probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either going to
> sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked him want
> he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
> threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not take
> it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500 thru
> $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are listed for
> that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
> deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car.  This now has
> me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-11-01 Thread andrew strasfogel

I think this particular 300CD was built on the MONDAY after the Octoberfest
weekend!  It has a whole bunch of weird problems.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If that is the case it is quite strange.  Usually its the shutoff valve or
>> other leaks.  I have never see the ignition part go bad.
>>
>
> The one on the Albatross was full of oil, and popped apart.
> I put it back together, clean, and it worked just fine.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread Jim Cathey

If that is the case it is quite strange.  Usually its the shutoff 
valve or other leaks.  I have never see the ignition part go bad.


The one on the Albatross was full of oil, and popped apart.
I put it back together, clean, and it worked just fine.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

If that is the case it is quite strange.  Usually its the shutoff valve 
or other leaks.  I have never see the ignition part go bad.


andrew strasfogel wrote:

Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch.  They need to remove the cluster to get
at it.  Has anyone ever heard of this?

Car is a W123 1983 300CD turbodiesel.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:


Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work.

Wilton

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I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

 Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and

on?

Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood.  That's
the lock system.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread Peter Frederick

The switch often fails if oil gets into the line from a bad shutoff  
valve.


We had to replace the one on my brother's 76 W115, so it's not  
unheard of.


Easy fix, just pop out the cluster, unscrew the switch, install new  
one, re-install cluster.  Maybe an hour's labor.


Peter

On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:
Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the  
shutoff

under the dash near ignition switch.


AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the  
ignition switch, and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from  
under the hood. I suppose if you knew which line was the vacuum  
feed to the shutoff system you could hook up a Mity-Vac and see if  
it leaks. If the dealer mechanic has been looking at it, he  
probably already did that. Seems like the vac servo/solenoid/ 
actuator on the back of the IP fails more often than the valve/ 
switch on the steering column.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread Jim Cathey

Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the 
shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch.  They need to remove the cluster 
to get

at it.  Has anyone ever heard of this?


The _switch_ is behind there.  They can go bad, especially
if they've gotten filled with oil.  Perhaps the dealership's
standard repair is to flush out the lines and possibly replace
the vacuum switch whenever replacing the shutoff actuator.
(Since the latter can leak oil into the vacuum system.)

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley


andrew strasfogel wrote:

Do you mean the vacuum control valve, 123 070 0046?  That part is NLA!


I believe the official name for the valve that controls the vacuum applied to 
the transmission modulator (controlling shift harshness/slippage) is vacuum 
control valve. Not sure what the shutoff valve on the ignition switch is called.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel

Do you mean the vacuum control valve, 123 070 0046?  That part is NLA!

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff
>> under the dash near ignition switch.
>>
>
> AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the ignition
> switch, and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from under the hood. I
> suppose if you knew which line was the vacuum feed to the shutoff system you
> could hook up a Mity-Vac and see if it leaks. If the dealer mechanic has
> been looking at it, he probably already did that. Seems like the vac
> servo/solenoid/actuator on the back of the IP fails more often than the
> valve/switch on the steering column.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley


andrew strasfogel wrote:

Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch.  


AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the ignition switch, 
and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from under the hood. I suppose if 
you knew which line was the vacuum feed to the shutoff system you could hook up 
a Mity-Vac and see if it leaks. If the dealer mechanic has been looking at it, 
he probably already did that. Seems like the vac servo/solenoid/actuator on the 
back of the IP fails more often than the valve/switch on the steering column.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel

Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch.  They need to remove the cluster to get
at it.  Has anyone ever heard of this?

Car is a W123 1983 300CD turbodiesel.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work.
>
> Wilton
>
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
>
>
> > I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >  Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and
> on?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood.  That's
> > > the lock system.
> > >
> > > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-27 Thread Wilton Strickland

Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work.

Wilton

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> I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct?
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and
on?
> >>
> >
> > Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood.  That's
> > the lock system.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-27 Thread andrew strasfogel

I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on?
>>
>
> Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood.  That's
> the lock system.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and 
on?


Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood.  That's
the lock system.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-26 Thread Wonko the Sane

The vacuum line to my 240D's central locking system has a big ol' golf tee
stuck in it, for that very reason.

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on?
>  There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check
> out OK.  I replaced the fuel door servo this summer.  Could a breach in the
> trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting
> off?  The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock).
> Andrew
> SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...

2008-10-26 Thread Wilton Strickland

Yes - not "leaving" enough vacuum to operate the fuel shutoff.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...


> Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on?
>  There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check
> out OK.  I replaced the fuel door servo this summer.  Could a breach in
the
> trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting
> off?  The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock).
> Andrew
> SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-02 Thread Tom Hargrave

I've owned a CD and several 300D's and I can say that the battery
compartment is tighter in the CDs. You won't notice the difference with a
Wal-Mart or discount parts house battery because these are smaller than the
correct battery but the difference is very obvious with the correct size
Mercedes or aftermarket battery.

The battery will lift right out of a 300D but you will struggle while
pulling a battery out of a CD because some of the sheet metal interferes
with the back edge of the battery. You have to lift up the back edge about 2
inches first & then pull the battery out at an angle. The same situation
exists with the 280CE - I owned one of these too.

The space where the battery sits & where the fuse box is at (opposite side)
are tighter due to the fact that the windshield is more sloped on the CD &
CE, but Mercedes used the same piece of glass that they used in the 4 door
123 body cars. This moved some of the sheet metal more foreword on the CD.

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Perhaps a few pictures and detailed notes as to why it is so relatively 
hard to get a batt out of a CD might help us to understand, particularly 
us over ere who have never seen a CD, let alone had a gander under the 
bonnet.

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my
> messages carefully!  ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is
> a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward.
>
>   
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-02 Thread Hendrik

Perhaps a few pictures and detailed notes as to why it is so relatively 
hard to get a batt out of a CD might help us to understand, particularly 
us over ere who have never seen a CD, let alone had a gander under the 
bonnet.

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my
> messages carefully!  ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is
> a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward.
>
>   
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-02 Thread andrew strasfogel

You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my
messages carefully!  ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is
a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward.

On 9/2/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45
> > minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and
> > installing the new one.  Perhaps someone can do some measurements to
> > determine why this job was so difficult.
>
> Good chance the tech had never changed a battery in W123 before in his
> life.  I had a battery changed at the Interstate Battery shop
> (installation was free) and they did not have any problems getting the
> old one out, but remarked on the novelty of the hood being able to
> open all the way to vertical.
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-02 Thread Allan Streib

"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45
> minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and
> installing the new one.  Perhaps someone can do some measurements to
> determine why this job was so difficult.

Good chance the tech had never changed a battery in W123 before in his
life.  I had a battery changed at the Interstate Battery shop
(installation was free) and they did not have any problems getting the
old one out, but remarked on the novelty of the hood being able to
open all the way to vertical.

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-02 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes
>  before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the
> new one.  

It only took me 5-10 minutes to wrestle the battery out of the wrecked
190Dt. (it was hit behind the right front wheel, and the battery compartment
is a fair bit smaller than it was before) Reinstalling the battery was a
bit harder than removing it. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-01 Thread Hendrik

It's hard to get a battery out, armed only with a laptop and mobile phone.

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes
>  before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the
> new one.  Perhaps someone can do some measurements to determine why
> this job was so difficult.
>   

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-09-01 Thread andrew strasfogel

All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes
 before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the
new one.  Perhaps someone can do some measurements to determine why
this job was so difficult.

On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no, they are the same too.  They have a different air cleaner, but it is
> located up front, so there is even more room on those.
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
>
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> >> I dont really see how that could be.  A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the
> >> same
> >> from the windshield up.
> >
> > The California versions are different...
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

no, they are the same too.  They have a different air cleaner, but it is 
located up front, so there is even more room on those.

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> Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>> I dont really see how that could be.  A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the 
>> same
>> from the windshield up.
>
> The California versions are different...
>
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread Tom Hargrave

They are not the same. The coup windshield has a steeper slope & the car has
a lower roof line, but they used the same piece of glass. Also, the back
window is slightly shorter because of the lower roof & the seats sit lower
to accommodate the lower roof line. I'm sure they also  did some juggling
around the rear of the engine compartment to accommodate the windshield
since the bottom edge would sit slightly more foreword.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

I dont really see how that could be.  A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same

from the windshield up.

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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question


> The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped
> than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT.


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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread ernest breakfield

FWIW, it wasn't difficult at all the change out the battery in my '85 
California 300D; only took a few minutes.


cheers!
e


John Robbins wrote:
> Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>   
>> I dont really see how that could be.  A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same 
>> from the windshield up.
>> 
>
> The California versions are different...
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread John Robbins

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> I dont really see how that could be.  A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same 
> from the windshield up.

The California versions are different...


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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

I dont really see how that could be.  A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same 
from the windshield up.

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> The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped
> than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT.


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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

I have never removed an air cleaner to remove a battery, I dont see any 
reason to.

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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 2:26 PM
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> it's identical.  Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air 
> cleaner?
>
> Luther
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread Luther

Interesting, my '82 CD has the same configuration as my '82D, '85D, and dad's 
'85D-cali, and '85TD.  What gives?

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:29:55 -0500, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped
> than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT.
>
>
>
> On 8/31/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> it's identical.  Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air
>> cleaner?
>>
>> Luther
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it?
>> >
>> > ---
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>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
>> >
>> >
>> >> It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD
>> coupe.
>> >> On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.
>> >
>> >
>



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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel

The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped
than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT.



On 8/31/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> it's identical.  Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air
> cleaner?
>
> Luther
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it?
> >
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> > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
> >
> >
> >> It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD
> coupe.
> >> On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
> '82 300CD (166 kmi)
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread Luther

it's identical.  Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air cleaner?

Luther

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it?
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
>
>
>> It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe.
>> On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.
>
>
>



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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it?

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- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question


> It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe.
> On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.


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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel

It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe.
On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.



On 8/31/07, Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Woah, I literally, read this message, went on to the next one and then
> paused and said "Was that the banned list?"
> Then I came back to this message and realized we were talking about
> battery
> replacement.
>
> On THAT topic, I will also comment that I didn't think it was very
> difficult
> to change the battery in my 83' 300D...
>
> Levi
>
> On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 10 minutes?  Takes me less than 2 minutes.
> >
> > ---
> > Kaleb C. Striplin
> > Cox Auto Trader
> > 730 FSBO Supervisor
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
> >
> >
> > > WOW, I can R&R a 123 battery in less than 10 mins.  I much prefer the
> > pull
> > > out drop in of the 126.  Remove the air cleaner.  Have new rubber air
> > > cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad.
> > >
> > > Luther
> > >
> > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s -
> > >> that will help. This is a tough job!   It took the Mercedes Roadside
> > >> tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD.  I came out
> > >> ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
> > > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
> > > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
> > > '82 300CD (166 kmi)
> > > '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
> > > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-31 Thread Levi Smith

Woah, I literally, read this message, went on to the next one and then
paused and said "Was that the banned list?"
Then I came back to this message and realized we were talking about battery
replacement.

On THAT topic, I will also comment that I didn't think it was very difficult
to change the battery in my 83' 300D...

Levi

On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 10 minutes?  Takes me less than 2 minutes.
>
> ---
> Kaleb C. Striplin
> Cox Auto Trader
> 730 FSBO Supervisor
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
>
>
> > WOW, I can R&R a 123 battery in less than 10 mins.  I much prefer the
> pull
> > out drop in of the 126.  Remove the air cleaner.  Have new rubber air
> > cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad.
> >
> > Luther
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s -
> >> that will help. This is a tough job!   It took the Mercedes Roadside
> >> tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD.  I came out
> >> ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
> > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
> > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
> > '82 300CD (166 kmi)
> > '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
> > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
> >
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