Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Proper tires can be had for $200-250. Compare that to what tires cost on the modern equivalent to your 450SL: a 2013 SL550 will run $300-400 tire. Overall, you're doing well. Jaime On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am budget conscience. I just do not see dropping $500 each for rubber. The tax on owners of old cars is wrong. We should be allowed access to consumables at a reasonable price. There is no need for dropping monster cash to get simple enough tires, when the ricer boys are tossing five figures to put rubber bands on trash can lid size rims. Classic center Tom tells me to purchase his over priced rims so that I can use 15 tires. If I wanted to make the car into a hoopty, I could just hit any low rent wheel shop. Might as well get some LEDs for under the body, maybe a banging stereo with DVD player pop up screen and some 4500 watt bass boosters. Swap out the muffler for a coffee can system and some Thrush glaspacks. Then change the door hinges to Lambos, find a HID kit, maybe bull bars, and cut the springs to lower it. clay On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Clay, Tires are available that meet your needs. You're just unwilling to pay for them! Jaime PS - The Ferrari guys do pay for them. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not enamored of the classic center. They are elitist and do not support the owners of the models that made the company money. If you happen to share a part with a more elitist vehicle, you can pay multiples of the value of your car to acquire it. Poop! We end up at the PnP to source our parts and keep the cars on the road, providing unremunerated marketing to the marque, so they can pillage our bank accounts when we need a part. Poop! Fie on them! I want my dang tires. Why am I not allowed to have access to tires that meet the design specifications for my car? Mercedes should endorse and procure a tire that meets the needs and design requirements of the cars they built. I am certain there would be ample market for a V rated 14 inch tire at a reasonable price. The drivers of the larger sedans as well as sport coupes of the 1970's and early 1980's would buy out any production run of said tires. We would also have a smaller market demand from the Ferrari owners, since they too are in need of high speed rubber. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Wow! What a deal! /sarcasm Dan On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:02:17 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantlyreduced price! Message-ID: f76db723-f9a8-4565-95a0-68d456559...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am budget conscience. I just do not see dropping $500 each for rubber. The tax on owners of old cars is wrong. We should be allowed access to consumables at a reasonable price. There is no need for dropping monster cash to get simple enough tires, when the ricer boys are tossing five figures to put rubber bands on trash can lid size rims. Classic center Tom tells me to purchase his over priced rims so that I can use 15 tires. If I wanted to make the car into a hoopty, I could just hit any low rent wheel shop. Might as well get some LEDs for under the body, maybe a banging stereo with DVD player pop up screen and some 4500 watt bass boosters. Swap out the muffler for a coffee can system and some Thrush glaspacks. Then change the door hinges to Lambos, find a HID kit, maybe bull bars, and cut the springs to lower it. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
If you really think there are enough cars that use that tire size in that spec to make money at it start your own dammed tire company and make the tires. Otherwise shaddup. Clearly you've never worked anywhere that MAKES anything. Companies will do whatever they can to make money. If there were such a big market then people would be filling it. I think the various tire manufacturers have all decided the market is filled for that size with the expensive tires and that not enough people give a crap. I suspect if you look at most of the other cars like yours they're running the lower rated tires and doing just fine with them, or they've bought new wheels... Your whine is getting repetitive. Tell me you've at least written to the tire makers? Clearly whining at us isn't going to get tires made. You need to go to people who already make tires, try their Facebook pages... -Curt Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:02:17 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantlyreduced price! Message-ID: f76db723-f9a8-4565-95a0-68d456559...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am budget conscience. I just do not see dropping $500 each for rubber. The tax on owners of old cars is wrong. We should be allowed access to consumables at a reasonable price. There is no need for dropping monster cash to get simple enough tires, when the ricer boys are tossing five figures to put rubber bands on trash can lid size rims. Classic center Tom tells me to purchase his over priced rims so that I can use 15 tires. If I wanted to make the car into a hoopty, I could just hit any low rent wheel shop. Might as well get some LEDs for under the body, maybe a banging stereo with DVD player pop up screen and some 4500 watt bass boosters. Swap out the muffler for a coffee can system and some Thrush glaspacks. Then change the door hinges to Lambos, find a HID kit, maybe bull bars, and cut the springs to lower it. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Come on, Curt, that is almost good enough to be banned. clay On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: If you really think there are enough cars that use that tire size in that spec to make money at it start your own dammed tire company and make the tires. Otherwise shaddup. Clearly you've never worked anywhere that MAKES anything. Companies will do whatever they can to make money. If there were such a big market then people would be filling it. I think the various tire manufacturers have all decided the market is filled for that size with the expensive tires and that not enough people give a crap. I suspect if you look at most of the other cars like yours they're running the lower rated tires and doing just fine with them, or they've bought new wheels... Your whine is getting repetitive. Tell me you've at least written to the tire makers? Clearly whining at us isn't going to get tires made. You need to go to people who already make tires, try their Facebook pages... -Curt Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:02:17 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantlyreduced price! Message-ID: f76db723-f9a8-4565-95a0-68d456559...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am budget conscience. I just do not see dropping $500 each for rubber. The tax on owners of old cars is wrong. We should be allowed access to consumables at a reasonable price. There is no need for dropping monster cash to get simple enough tires, when the ricer boys are tossing five figures to put rubber bands on trash can lid size rims. Classic center Tom tells me to purchase his over priced rims so that I can use 15 tires. If I wanted to make the car into a hoopty, I could just hit any low rent wheel shop. Might as well get some LEDs for under the body, maybe a banging stereo with DVD player pop up screen and some 4500 watt bass boosters. Swap out the muffler for a coffee can system and some Thrush glaspacks. Then change the door hinges to Lambos, find a HID kit, maybe bull bars, and cut the springs to lower it. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
I am not enamored of the classic center. They are elitist and do not support the owners of the models that made the company money. If you happen to share a part with a more elitist vehicle, you can pay multiples of the value of your car to acquire it. Poop! We end up at the PnP to source our parts and keep the cars on the road, providing unremunerated marketing to the marque, so they can pillage our bank accounts when we need a part. Poop! Fie on them! I want my dang tires. Why am I not allowed to have access to tires that meet the design specifications for my car? Mercedes should endorse and procure a tire that meets the needs and design requirements of the cars they built. I am certain there would be ample market for a V rated 14 inch tire at a reasonable price. The drivers of the larger sedans as well as sport coupes of the 1970's and early 1980's would buy out any production run of said tires. We would also have a smaller market demand from the Ferrari owners, since they too are in need of high speed rubber. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Wow! What a deal! /sarcasm Dan On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Clay, Tires are available that meet your needs. You're just unwilling to pay for them! Jaime PS - The Ferrari guys do pay for them. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not enamored of the classic center. They are elitist and do not support the owners of the models that made the company money. If you happen to share a part with a more elitist vehicle, you can pay multiples of the value of your car to acquire it. Poop! We end up at the PnP to source our parts and keep the cars on the road, providing unremunerated marketing to the marque, so they can pillage our bank accounts when we need a part. Poop! Fie on them! I want my dang tires. Why am I not allowed to have access to tires that meet the design specifications for my car? Mercedes should endorse and procure a tire that meets the needs and design requirements of the cars they built. I am certain there would be ample market for a V rated 14 inch tire at a reasonable price. The drivers of the larger sedans as well as sport coupes of the 1970's and early 1980's would buy out any production run of said tires. We would also have a smaller market demand from the Ferrari owners, since they too are in need of high speed rubber. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Wow! What a deal! /sarcasm Dan On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
I am budget conscience. I just do not see dropping $500 each for rubber. The tax on owners of old cars is wrong. We should be allowed access to consumables at a reasonable price. There is no need for dropping monster cash to get simple enough tires, when the ricer boys are tossing five figures to put rubber bands on trash can lid size rims. Classic center Tom tells me to purchase his over priced rims so that I can use 15 tires. If I wanted to make the car into a hoopty, I could just hit any low rent wheel shop. Might as well get some LEDs for under the body, maybe a banging stereo with DVD player pop up screen and some 4500 watt bass boosters. Swap out the muffler for a coffee can system and some Thrush glaspacks. Then change the door hinges to Lambos, find a HID kit, maybe bull bars, and cut the springs to lower it. clay On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Clay, Tires are available that meet your needs. You're just unwilling to pay for them! Jaime PS - The Ferrari guys do pay for them. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not enamored of the classic center. They are elitist and do not support the owners of the models that made the company money. If you happen to share a part with a more elitist vehicle, you can pay multiples of the value of your car to acquire it. Poop! We end up at the PnP to source our parts and keep the cars on the road, providing unremunerated marketing to the marque, so they can pillage our bank accounts when we need a part. Poop! Fie on them! I want my dang tires. Why am I not allowed to have access to tires that meet the design specifications for my car? Mercedes should endorse and procure a tire that meets the needs and design requirements of the cars they built. I am certain there would be ample market for a V rated 14 inch tire at a reasonable price. The drivers of the larger sedans as well as sport coupes of the 1970's and early 1980's would buy out any production run of said tires. We would also have a smaller market demand from the Ferrari owners, since they too are in need of high speed rubber. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Wow! What a deal! /sarcasm Dan On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
On Feb 7, 2013 12:49 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: 1. The manufacturer of my vehicle specifies the use of DOT 3 brake fluid. Can I also use DOT 4 brake fluid? No! The specifications of the vehicle manufacturer must be complied with. ATE recommends only using the DOT class which is recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Surprised nobody is chiming in on this issue (DOT4 brake fluid in DOT3-era cars). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
ATE has lawyered up, now that they are owned by ITT, originally a 'merkun company. DOT 4 is superior in any VEEhicle. they are claiming older MBs are DOT3 only, but I am here to testify that merkun DOT3 in any post 1959 MB will swell the brake hoses shut. I think the same it true for any postwar MB ,but don't have experience there. DOT5 can be used in any MB also, but does require changeout and flush, and in my experience, multiple follow-up drainings to be sure the DOT3/4/water is all gone. When DOT5 was new, MB said the hoses were incompatible. Subsequent study shoed that hosed used with DOT4 prior to changeover/flush to DOT5 work well. I presume that hoses made by MB more then 5 yrs after into of DOT5 are ok new. I never had any trouble either way. For high performance braking, DOT5 is the way to go, unless you like brake fade and loss of braking under duress. Remember this is only an opinion... On Feb 7, 2013 12:49 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: 1. The manufacturer of my vehicle specifies the use of DOT 3 brake fluid. Can I also use DOT 4 brake fluid? No! The specifications of the vehicle manufacturer must be complied with. ATE recommends only using the DOT class which is recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Surprised nobody is chiming in on this issue (DOT4 brake fluid in DOT3-era cars). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Wow! What a deal! /sarcasm Dan On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
On 07/02/2013 12:31 PM, Craig wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ So, will one from a Chevy Impala fit? I read somewhere recently that people swap Ford Oxygen sensors into MB,s because they are essentially the same with a different plug on the end, and a whole lot cheaper. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
What??!!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price! On 07/02/2013 12:31 PM, Craig wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ So, will one from a Chevy Impala fit? I read somewhere recently that people swap Ford Oxygen sensors into MB,s because they are essentially the same with a different plug on the end, and a whole lot cheaper. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Randy Bennell wrote: So, will one from a Chevy Impala fit? I don't think 50 year old Fords have Alfred Teves (ATE) boosters in them. It's entirely possible that other cars from east of the Atlantic use the T50, but I don't know how to find out. The cost to rebuild has to be a 3 digit number if you can find somebody who can fix it. According to ATE: http://www.ate.de/generator/www/com/en/ate/ate/general/hidden/faq_de.html 3. I need an ATE T50 brake booster. Where can I buy one? New T50 and T50/12 brake boosters have been manufactured by ATE.These are exclusively available from Mercedes Benz or Mercedes Benz Classic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Here's a FAQ WTF: (I always thought DOT 4 was to DOT 3 what Mobil 1 5W40 is to generic dino 15W40) Fluid 1. The manufacturer of my vehicle specifies the use of DOT 3 brake fluid. Can I also use DOT 4 brake fluid? No! The specifications of the vehicle manufacturer must be complied with. ATE recommends only using the DOT class which is recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Mitch Haley wrote: I don't think 50 year old Fords have Alfred Teves (ATE) boosters in them. Oops, might have to eat those words, if the original Bendix product will interchange. Interesting how buying the rights to a Bendix product is scoring another innovative breakthrough. http://www.ate.de/generator/www/com/en/ate/ate/themes/30_ate_classic/ate_classic_en,tabNr=1.html 1951 Teves acquired the rights to the Hydrovac vacuum booster from the U.S. Bendix company and marketed it in Germany as the ATE T50. The vacuum booster came in response to the fact that cars were getting heavier and heavier, and more and more physical effort was needed to apply the brakes. It uses the vacuum generated on the intake side of the engine to boost the brake force, making for a vast improvement in driver comfort. This technology rapidly displaced the principle of self-energizing foundation brakes which was being pursued by the automobile industry. scoring another innovative breakthrough for Teves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Last time I priced wunnadem was 30-40 years ago and they were something like $300 then. Considering inflation, that is probably about the same price. ~$3000+ - You don't want to buy a new one anyhow, because they are rebuildable (if you can find a kit) I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
On 08/02/2013 2:45 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: So, will one from a Chevy Impala fit? I don't think 50 year old Fords have Alfred Teves (ATE) boosters in them. It's entirely possible that other cars from east of the Atlantic use the T50, but I don't know how to find out. The cost to rebuild has to be a 3 digit number if you can find somebody who can fix it. According to ATE: http://www.ate.de/generator/www/com/en/ate/ate/general/hidden/faq_de.html 3. I need an ATE T50 brake booster. Where can I buy one? New T50 and T50/12 brake boosters have been manufactured by ATE.These are exclusively available from Mercedes Benz or Mercedes Benz Classic. ___ Oh, come on. Where is your spirit of adventure? It is only the brakes. If they work, that is just a bonus. Brakes are over rated. You never gonna get where you'r goin if you keep your foot on the brake all the time. And it shouldn't be all that hard to stuff in a brake booster while you are stuffing that big block chevy into your old gullwing MB. They might even be from the same donor car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
I read somewhere recently that people swap Ford Oxygen sensors into MB,s because they are essentially the same with a different plug on the end, and a whole lot cheaper. Randy Funny, I have never had to replace an o2 sensor an any of my MB diesels; or even the couple odd gassers, for that matter. (but that is a different deal) or even the dogdes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
One other thing. These are not the typical brake booster we think of, with the master cyl. mounted to it. These are remote boosters. On the 220Sb, they are mounted behind and below the headlight bucket. Mitch Haley wrote: I don't think 50 year old Fords have Alfred Teves (ATE) boosters in them. Oops, might have to eat those words, if the original Bendix product will interchange. Interesting how buying the rights to a Bendix product is scoring another innovative breakthrough. http://www.ate.de/generator/www/com/en/ate/ate/themes/30_ate_classic/ate_classic_en,tabNr=1.html 1951 Teves acquired the rights to the Hydrovac vacuum booster from the U.S. Bendix company and marketed it in Germany as the ATE T50. The vacuum booster came in response to the fact that cars were getting heavier and heavier, and more and more physical effort was needed to apply the brakes. It uses the vacuum generated on the intake side of the engine to boost the brake force, making for a vast improvement in driver comfort. This technology rapidly displaced the principle of self-energizing foundation brakes which was being pursued by the automobile industry. scoring another innovative breakthrough for Teves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Although many of you have hard time looking past the price (I buy cars for that much!), you must consider the meaning of this announcement. The classic center has identified a market for these and made them more available at a reduced price. What other manufacturer is doing that for cars they made 50+ years ago!? No doubt, they're of a very high quality and quite beautiful. Probably assembled by hand in Germany too. As pointed out, these aren't your typical brake booster found on later cars. Jaime On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price but still expensive!
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jun06/29_New_T50_Brake_Booster_For_Classic_Mercedes_Released.html These are not brake boosters but a work of art. Lets put this in perspective, my rear muffler on the TE is pretty much knackered, I patched it up to keep going, with the hope of finding a good S/H one (more likely to come across unicorn feathers) or perhaps get one made up. You might ask yourself, why bother patching it up, well I can give you over 500 reasons. http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=yearid=1989@@1989makeid=63@@MERCEDESmodelid=6241%3AMBC%7C1521%3AED%7C1013@@300TEcatid=241035@@Exhaustsubcatid=241069@@Mufflerapplicationid=W0133-1715919@@Muffler%20-%20Rearmode=PA Eberspaecher are the OEM same as ATE is. So they can charge that sort of money for a basic muffler but a brake booster that has been re-engineered to meet modern standards is expensive at 2.2k? Hendrik whose TE is quite again On 08/02/13 05:12, Dan Penoff wrote: Wow! What a deal! /sarcasm Dan On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just received the February 2013: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center News email. One item in it says, Good news for all owners of Mercedes-Benz classics from the 1950s and early 1960s: as of now, the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center is offering the type ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters - for historical Mercedes-Benz cars such as the 190 SL (W121), the 300 SL (W198), the 300 Sc (W188) and the Ponton models - at a significantly reduced price! Few drivers realize that their brake boosters are no longer functioning properly because they get used to the continuously rising pedal pressure required and the longer stopping distances. Don't hesitate and take a chance on the functionality of your brakes when you need them the most. Order your new brake booster today for $2,220.00 (was $3,470.00)! Contact us at 1-866-622-5277 (toll-free) or email classicpa...@mbusa.com. Yes, it's 36% off, but I still choke at $2,220.00 for a brake booster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:47:59 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Although many of you have hard time looking past the price (I buy cars for that much!), you must consider the meaning of this announcement. The classic center has identified a market for these and made them more available at a reduced price. What other manufacturer is doing that for cars they made 50+ years ago!? That's true. It is dripping with meaning, even moreso than an old brake booster. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
What's wrong with a used brake booster? I needed one for my 280SE 3.5 coupe. Cost was like $500 but the classic center told me that mine was interchangeable with one from a 116 sedan. $95 used. Voila. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:47:59 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Although many of you have hard time looking past the price (I buy cars for that much!), you must consider the meaning of this announcement. The classic center has identified a market for these and made them more available at a reduced price. What other manufacturer is doing that for cars they made 50+ years ago!? That's true. It is dripping with meaning, even moreso than an old brake booster. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATE T50 and T50/12 brake boosters at a significantly reduced price!
Well, 45 year old rubber CAN degrade, after all! Used is fine, but for a collectable car, I'd spring for new if I needed one. Those particular boosters are the remote ones, I think (from when only the front brakes were disk) and are a different animal than the one attached to the brake pedal. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
