Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, I though that was a bit of a d*ck move on their part. I certainly 
wouldn't have given them $1000 for the car knowing they were going to scrap it 
for $300-$400 later that week.

Want to bet it's still there on Friday?

-D

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That seller sounds a bit of a jerk. He thinks that on Thursday, he's going
> to get $300 or $400 from a junkyard, more like $100 I'll bet.  "...but
> since $1,000 is a good price for this, I will not come down on principle,
> if someone waits until the last day to pay $400 just because that is how
> much the junk yard will give me."
> 
> I'd park across the street from the seller's house, find out what junkyard
> it goes to, and then purchase it from them for less than $1k I'll bet.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> There's a $1000 240D near Jaime on Benzworld that looks nice, too, for the
>> money.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That seller sounds a bit of a jerk. He thinks that on Thursday, he's going
to get $300 or $400 from a junkyard, more like $100 I'll bet.  "...but
since $1,000 is a good price for this, I will not come down on principle,
if someone waits until the last day to pay $400 just because that is how
much the junk yard will give me."

I'd park across the street from the seller's house, find out what junkyard
it goes to, and then purchase it from them for less than $1k I'll bet.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> There's a $1000 240D near Jaime on Benzworld that looks nice, too, for the
> money.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

There's a $1000 240D near Jaime on Benzworld that looks nice, too, for the 
money.

-D

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> So who's going to snap this up?  Mitch?
> 
> Supposedly the engine was replaced just 10k miles ago, maybe with a factory
> crate engine?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
>> 
>> 1990 350SDL for $750
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
>> 385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html
>> 
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So who's going to snap this up?  Mitch?

Supposedly the engine was replaced just 10k miles ago, maybe with a factory
crate engine?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> 1990 350SDL for $750
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
> 385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

SE mitchigan...
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On April 24, 2017 6:34:56 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>Anybody close? I might be interested 
>
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>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Where is it at?  Rusty?
>> 
>>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> April 24, 2017 at 3:40 PM
>>> 1990 350SDL for $750
>>> 
>>>
>http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Anybody close? I might be interested 

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> On Apr 24, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where is it at?  Rusty?
> 
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> April 24, 2017 at 3:40 PM
>> 1990 350SDL for $750
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

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SE Michigan.  No mention of rust, no pix.
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On April 24, 2017 6:30:01 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Where is it at?  Rusty?
>
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> April 24, 2017 at 3:40 PM
>> 1990 350SDL for $750
>>
>>
>http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html
>>
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Where is it at?  Rusty?


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
April 24, 2017 at 3:40 PM
1990 350SDL for $750

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html

-
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender.

[Constantine N. Polites]

The 350 SDL does have a low level oil indicator. The switch is located 
on the left side of the motor below the IP.  When the motor is one liter 
low the light will go one  ( if the bulb is ok).
Constantine

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Tom Hargrave]

Maybe, but then maybe the key did get sucked into the oil pump after
wearing through the screen.

Another list member mentioned that it's not like a defect from the
factory  he's probably right. More than likely, someone had the head
off at some time  dropped the cam key into the engine. Then instead of
doing the right thing  pulling the pan, he just figured that the oil
pump screen would stop any damage.

Many years ago, I was working on a friend's 1971 220D. We were advancing
the engine so that we could check timing chain stretch  I immediately
noticed that the master link keeper was missing from the timing chain.
The master link was being held in place by grooves worn in the posts.

I told him that we had to pull the lower pan and he responded with why,
won't the screen block the part? We pulled the pan  found the keeper
inbedded in the screen  it was well worn into the pickup screen. I
don't know how many miles it would have taken to wear through but given
time, the keeper (or what was left of it) would have been sucked into
the oil pump.

Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
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Maybe the bulb is burned out, or they let it go too long.

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 Not likely. The engine has a oil level sensor that turns on a red
light
 in the dash long before the oil is low enough to cause damage.
 
 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Kaleb C. Striplin, work]

Maybe the bulb is burned out, or they let it go too long.

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 Not likely. The engine has a oil level sensor that turns on a red light
 in the dash long before the oil is low enough to cause damage.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Tom Hargrave]

Or the key would need to wedge in the screen and work back and forth as
the engine was started and stopped for 20 miles until it wore
through the screen.

Very likely.

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A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked
its way into the oil pump, jamming it. 

In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake
would have to fall out.

Unlikely.

-Dave Walton


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 Oil pump failure... yeah, right.


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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[dave walton]

BT, WRONG!

Gravity is working against you. If it were to move, it would drop back
in the pan.

-Dave Walton

On 11/15/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or the key would need to wedge in the screen and work back and forth as
 the engine was started and stopped for 20 miles until it wore
 through the screen.

 Very likely.

 Thanks, Tom
 256-656-1924

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

 A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked
 its way into the oil pump, jamming it. 

 In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake
 would have to fall out.

 Unlikely.

 -Dave Walton


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  Oil pump failure... yeah, right.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Allan Streib]

Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Or the key would need to wedge in the screen and work back and forth as
 the engine was started and stopped for 20 miles until it wore
 through the screen.

 Very likely.

How likely is it that a key was left in the pan AT THE FACTORY in the
first place?  THAT seems unlikely to me... I'd think the pan would be
about the last thing installed on a new engine and probably done at
its own station on the line.  More likely, if the story is true at
all, it was dropped in during some subsequent repair or maintenance
job.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[John Robbins]

LarryT wrote:
 The seller wrote MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when there is 
 an oil pressure failure
 
 Well, Heoo?  Maybe that's because there's a Oil Pressure *gauge* 
 in the dash??  Duh!?

You can have both!!!  Not everyone has trained themselves to have a 30 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Rick Knoble]

It is a RODBENDER. At 200k miles the cylinder(s) got ovalled out, it started 
using oil and no one bothered to check the oil or add any. That is my guess.

Rick Knoble 
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 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Or the key would need to wedge in the screen and work back and forth as
 the engine was started and stopped for 20 miles until it wore
 through the screen.

 Very likely.
 
 How likely is it that a key was left in the pan AT THE FACTORY in the
 first place?  THAT seems unlikely to me... I'd think the pan would be
 about the last thing installed on a new engine and probably done at
 its own station on the line.  More likely, if the story is true at
 all, it was dropped in during some subsequent repair or maintenance
 job.
 
 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Tom Hargrave]

Not likely. The engine has a oil level sensor that turns on a red light
in the dash long before the oil is low enough to cause damage.

Tom
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It is a RODBENDER. At 200k miles the cylinder(s) got ovalled out, it
started using oil and no one bothered to check the oil or add any. That
is my guess.

Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT

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 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Or the key would need to wedge in the screen and work back and forth
as
 the engine was started and stopped for 20 miles until it wore
 through the screen.

 Very likely.
 
 How likely is it that a key was left in the pan AT THE FACTORY in the
 first place?  THAT seems unlikely to me... I'd think the pan would be
 about the last thing installed on a new engine and probably done at
 its own station on the line.  More likely, if the story is true at
 all, it was dropped in during some subsequent repair or maintenance
 job.
 
 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Tom Hargrave]

Maybe Kaleb needs to offer $200.00 for it.

Thanks,
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Oil pump failure... yeah, right. 

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

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 Maybe Kaleb needs to offer $200.00 for it.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave

Actually, for a grand it's probably not a bad deal. Just needs about seven 
grand in new motor to go another 300k miles.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I already have a motor for it

Rick Knoble wrote:
 Maybe Kaleb needs to offer $200.00 for it.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 
 Actually, for a grand it's probably not a bad deal. Just needs about seven 
 grand in new motor to go another 300k miles.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[LarryT]

The seller wrote MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when there is 
an oil pressure failure

Well, Heoo?  Maybe that's because there's a Oil Pressure *gauge* 
in the dash??  Duh!?

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Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender


 Oil pump failure... yeah, right.

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 Rick Knoble
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 '87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Allan Streib]

On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:10 PM, LarryT wrote:

 The seller wrote MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when  
 there is
 an oil pressure failure

 Well, Heoo?  Maybe that's because there's a Oil  
 Pressure *gauge*
 in the dash??  Duh!?

Yeah, but a buzzer would be a nice backup.  Do you keep an eye glued  
to the oil pressure every second?

My '91 VW did not have a pressure gauge, but it had an idiot light  
AND a very loud, raspy buzzer if you lost pressure while the engine  
was running.  I activated it once or twice banking hard on highway  
exit ramps, and it was impossible to miss.

Allan
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1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[dave walton]

A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked
its way into the oil pump, jamming it. 

In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake
would have to fall out.

Unlikely.

-Dave Walton


On 11/14/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oil pump failure... yeah, right.

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ290179588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Loren Faeth]

MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when there is an oil 
pressure failure. 

Duh, no, it actually has a gauge that TELLS You something! Duh



At 07:03 PM 11/14/2007, you wrote:
A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked
its way into the oil pump, jamming it. 

In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake
would have to fall out.

Unlikely.

-Dave Walton


On 11/14/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oil pump failure... yeah, right.
 
  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ290179588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
  Rick Knoble
  '85 300 CD
  '87 190 DT
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender

[Mitch Haley]

dave walton wrote:
 
 A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked
 its way into the oil pump, jamming it. 
 
 In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake
 would have to fall out.

Or the key would have to make it into the drive chain.
Mitch.

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