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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread fmiser via Mercedes

> Donald wrote:
> 
> What do you all think of this:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
> Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.

Others mention it's an '87.  No, I did not take the time to load a
huge page.

> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like
> that.  I know the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton,
> so it has the heavy duty suspension and heavy duty transmission.

The transmission in '87 would be the 700R4 - not a heavy duty
transmission from the factory.  In '92 the name changed to 4L60.  I
don't think there was any difference in the transmission from the
1/2 ton up.  From the factory.  Aftermarket rebuilds can make it a
strong, sturdy transmission.

I don't know about '87, but in the years prior there was a light
and a heavy 3/4 ton. Look at the VGW to see which it is.  The
suspension on the light 3/4 ton is not much different than the 1/2
ton.  The heavy 3/4 ton gets the heavier axle, bigger brakes, etc.

> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any
> real evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the
> underside.  But, am I looking in the wrong place?

Rust shows up in the back corners between the bumper and the
wheels, the bottom of the doors, rocker panels, front wheel fender
aft of the wheel.  Factory paint peals off as they had not yet
figured out how to use the EPA mandated paint process.  Especially
bad on the roof.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

I had a brand new 1988 Suburban with the 350 TBI engine, base model, almost no 
options besides heat, AC and radio, with rubber floor mats. Great vehicle, 
plenty of power, easy to drive, and surprisingly good gas mileage considering 
the size and weight.

Got rid of it a few years later when my round trip commute went from 5 miles to 
70. I traded it in on a brand new 91 Ford Escort wagon. Dummy dealer sales guy 
who was just a pup didn't calculate the residual on the lease and had to eat it 
when I traded it. Lost his job over that mistake. Ouch.

Dan

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> They do not display right away on a phone
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>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Somebody didn't scroll down...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
>> 
>> Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What do you all think of this:
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
>>>   Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.
>>> 
>>> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know 
>>> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
>>> suspension and heavy duty transmission.
>>> 
>>> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have 
>>> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on 
>>> the exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like 
>>> these.
>>> 
>>> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real 
>>> evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I 
>>> looking in the wrong place?
>>> 
>>> Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

They do not display right away on a phone

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Somebody didn't scroll down...
> -Curt
> 
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> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
> 
> Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What do you all think of this:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
>>   Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.
>> 
>> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know 
>> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
>> suspension and heavy duty transmission.
>> 
>> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have 
>> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the 
>> exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.
>> 
>> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence 
>> of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I looking 
>> in the wrong place?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Somebody didn't scroll down...
-Curt

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Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> What do you all think of this:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
>   Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.
> 
> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know 
> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
> suspension and heavy duty transmission.
> 
> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have 
> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the 
> exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.
> 
> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence 
> of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I looking in 
> the wrong place?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

If this one had the 6.2 diesel it would be closer to being worth 7k

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will say the same thing that I said about the Jeep Wagoneer.
> It would make a good hobby vehicle for you but I cannot see it as your daily 
> driver.
> You have an old pickup truck if I recall. It would be a lot like driving your 
> old pickup all the time.
> Sort of a fun vehicle to have around but not if you have to use it every day.
> 
> I drove a 1986 Chevy Suburban for almost 10 years but that was a while back. 
> I got it in August 1991 and sold it in December 2000.
> It was useful as it had 3 rows of bench seating and seatbelts for 9 people. 
> The engine never caused much trouble but the AT did. 700R4 transmissions were 
> not wonderful.
> Not much else was trouble  - did normal stuff like tires, brakes, ball joints 
> etc.
> AC was a bit of trouble as it had rear air and the lines under the truck 
> feeding the back unit would corrode with salt and leak.  I had them replaced 
> twice.
> Paint was not wonderful. I had it completely repaired and re-painted but 
> within a couple of years, it needed more repairs- especially around the rear 
> quarters and back doors.
> 
> Newer vehicles - especially trucks drive much nicer, make better mileage, and 
> are much quieter. I like the look of the old ones but I am not interested in 
> swapping my 2013 F150 Supercrew for an 80's Suburban.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 16/09/2016 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> What do you all think of this:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
>>   Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.
>> 
>> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know 
>> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
>> suspension and heavy duty transmission.
>> 
>> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have 
>> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the 
>> exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.
>> 
>> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence 
>> of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I looking 
>> in the wrong place?
>> 
>> Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Ok well in that case it might be worth it but still way on the high side

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:32:19 + Donald Snook via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> What do you all think of this:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
> 
> 
>> Too [sic] see the pictures you have to look in the description.
> 
> Yes, 150 of them!
> 
> The outside does look sharp.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do you all think of this:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
>   Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.
> 
> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know 
> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
> suspension and heavy duty transmission.
> 
> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have 
> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the 
> exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.
> 
> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence 
> of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I looking in 
> the wrong place?
> 
> Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

It's not a Mercedes - friends don't let friends drive non-Mercedes . . . .

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What do you all think of this:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=
> item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513  Too see the
> pictures you have to look in the description.
>
> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know
> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty
> suspension and heavy duty transmission.
>
> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have
> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on
> the exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like
> these.
>
> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real
> evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I
> looking in the wrong place?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

I will say the same thing that I said about the Jeep Wagoneer.
It would make a good hobby vehicle for you but I cannot see it as your
daily driver.
You have an old pickup truck if I recall. It would be a lot like driving
your old pickup all the time.
Sort of a fun vehicle to have around but not if you have to use it every
day.

I drove a 1986 Chevy Suburban for almost 10 years but that was a while
back. I got it in August 1991 and sold it in December 2000.
It was useful as it had 3 rows of bench seating and seatbelts for 9
people. The engine never caused much trouble but the AT did. 700R4
transmissions were not wonderful.
Not much else was trouble - did normal stuff like tires, brakes, ball
joints etc.
AC was a bit of trouble as it had rear air and the lines under the truck
feeding the back unit would corrode with salt and leak. I had them
replaced twice.
Paint was not wonderful. I had it completely repaired and re-painted but
within a couple of years, it needed more repairs- especially around the
rear quarters and back doors.

Newer vehicles - especially trucks drive much nicer, make better
mileage, and are much quieter. I like the look of the old ones but I am
not interested in swapping my 2013 F150 Supercrew for an 80's Suburban.

On 16/09/2016 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

What do you all think of this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.

I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know the
350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty
suspension and heavy duty transmission.

I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have always
liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the
exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.

Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence of
rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking in the
wrong place?

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I had an 87 Blazer, same truck.  Very agricultural.  Not much to go 
wrong.  I really liked it but it pretty much rusted out around the back 
tailgate (NE truck).


TBI engine is your basic 350, would probably benefit from a EFI upgrade 
that is readily available, or just a new carb.  There is minimal 
emissions junk on it.  There is an app I found, and made a little dongle 
to plug into the port, to watch what the TBI engine is doing on this app 
on an XP laptop.


If it is in nice shape, it would probably run pretty much forever, not a 
lot to go wrong, and what might go wrong is eminently fixable.  I put a 
new tranny on mine at some point, which is sitting in the garage 
attached to a new engine I put in it (and then removed when I gave the 
hulk away).


--FT


On 9/16/16 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats a beauty.
'87 is the first year for the injected engine I think but theres not much that goes wrong 
with them. I wouldn't say its a "great" engine, its underpowered for its 
displacement but that does make them rugged. 3/4 ton will ride rougher than a 1/2 ton 
will and of course with live axles this won't handle terrifically well. Mileage won't be 
terrific but then again we've already discussed that if you don't drive all that much it 
probably doesn't matter.
-Curt

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  Subject: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

What do you all think of this:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
  Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.

I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know the 
350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
suspension and heavy duty transmission.

I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have always 
liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the 
exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.

Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence of 
rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I looking in the 
wrong place?

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:32:19 + Donald Snook via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What do you all think of this:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513


> Too [sic] see the pictures you have to look in the description.

Yes, 150 of them!

The outside does look sharp.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban

2016-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Thats a beauty.
'87 is the first year for the injected engine I think but theres not much that 
goes wrong with them. I wouldn't say its a "great" engine, its underpowered for 
its displacement but that does make them rugged. 3/4 ton will ride rougher than 
a 1/2 ton will and of course with live axles this won't handle terrifically 
well. Mileage won't be terrific but then again we've already discussed that if 
you don't drive all that much it probably doesn't matter.
-Curt

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Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
   
What do you all think of this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0=172337688513
  Too see the pictures you have to look in the description.

I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that.  I know the 
350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty 
suspension and heavy duty transmission.

I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion.  I have always 
liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the 
exterior).  So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these.

Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence of 
rust other than minor surface rust on the underside.  But, am I looking in the 
wrong place?

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT suburban (was annoying drivers)

2012-04-16 Thread John Reames

Speaking of suburbans, has anyone looked at replacing the stock stanadyne model 
80 sieve (on an 86 6.2L oil burner) with a FM 100 like is on the 6.5L turbos?

It looks like a little wiring harness adaptation (WIF sensor and fuel heater 
lines), bracket fabrication, and placing a water drain valve. 

Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Thanks.

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On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:12, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 On another aspect, my wife was driving up to Chapel Hill the other day, and 
 out in the middle of nowhere on I95 she had a LF blowout on the Suburban.  
 From her description I thought it might have been a puncture from something 
 on the road, she was not sure but she thought she heard something hit the 
 inner fender, or something indicating an acute failure.  Anyway, she called 
 AAA and they put on the spare.  The tires were getting to the point they 
 needed to be replaced, so she had that done up there, and they put the 
 blown-out tire in a bag for her to bring home to show me.  I took one look at 
 it, and right in the middle of the tread was perfect 1/4 punched hole, with 
 a circle around it about 1.25 diameter, looked like a bolt or something had 
 hit it straight on.  She probably heard the bolt hit the fender when it got 
 thrown out.   The tire was totally destroyed, the sidewalls ripped open most 
 of the way around, radially, and a good part of the tread belt was separated 
 from both sides.  So it just decompressed almost immediately from that 
 puncture and almost totally shredded.
 
 It kinda freaked her out, but she managed to get the truck off the road OK 
 and not lose (loose) control or anything.
 
 Teaching her to change a tire is a futile effort, and probably safer anyway 
 to have someone come to do it on that road.
 
 $800 for a new set of tires installed...damn those things have got expensive.
 
 --R
 
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