Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Well, I safely avoided going to it! Do I get a prize? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:18:34 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Well, I safely avoided going to it! Do I get a prize? Atta boy!!! Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Hmm, the lathe and mill (lots #1 2) are the only two auction items with a reserve. That probably lets me out! -- Jim
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You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap The MOG wants to come over the mountains What, _again_? My collection vehicle is the Dodge pickup, not the Mog. But I am going to pass on the stuff, there's nothing I desperately need half so much as chewing away at the already existing project pile. -- Jim
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It is calling you You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Hmm, _is_ some cool stuff there! (You b*d!) -- Jim
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Well, that stuff would not fit in a pick up! If you are not disposed to get it, then no need for me to pester you with it. On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 06:12 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap The MOG wants to come over the mountains What, _again_? My collection vehicle is the Dodge pickup, not the Mog. But I am going to pass on the stuff, there's nothing I desperately need half so much as chewing away at the already existing project pile. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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From the look of it, I am sure you could cobble together a nice Bioprocessor with the pumps and heaters On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 06:43 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: It is calling you You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Hmm, _is_ some cool stuff there! (You b*d!) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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The state has auctions I am certain the local paper would have notice. If not, the UW has scads of laptop with full complement of PC card. The gateway came with 3Com cards for both 56k, 10bt and a dual card. Slow as death 233mhz with 128mb and 4gig. $30. I was slow and got the last one that morning. The PIII ones were gone in the first two minutes the doors were open. Sometimes there are toilet seat ibooks. Just depends on what is being surplus. http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html The Endoscope would be great for looking inside the engines. The plasma torch would surely be a great way to loosen stuck engine bits. Lot #68 would be the envy of every dominatrix, but you are looking for lot #69 pallet of laptop.Unless you need a dozen iMacs (#94 #105) I think Jim could use that lot #100 Vicker welder with his new toy genset. On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: If I could find a laptop with Cat-5, or better yet, wireless capability for $30, I'd seriously wet myself. I don't work for the state, rather I contract with a non-profit as a legislative research analyst. They don't have too much free stuff floating around. On 1/20/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey, can you not pick up a surplus laptop that you dedicate to only running IE? I snagged a Gateway the UW no longer needed and gave it to my oldest. All of $30 and it came with everything. I am sure there are warehouses filled with crap Olympia no longer uses just waiting for employees to take home. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Now _that_ looks like a fun auction. The milling machine and lathe lots (1 2) look real nice. But I think I had better lay low, SWMBA (A: annoyed) has already been provoked recently. -- Jim
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jim... Jim... JIM. It is calling you You need this stuff It is going to go really cheap The MOG wants to come over the mountains On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 05:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html Now _that_ looks like a fun auction. The milling machine and lathe lots (1 2) look real nice. But I think I had better lay low, SWMBA (A: annoyed) has already been provoked recently. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
My experience has been that the 10% who refuse to run the Microsoft browser will account for 90% of your customer service problems. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 1/15/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am suprised that you lost IE on a Windoze system. I mean, I am surprised you were able to. It used to be that deletion of IE would completely disable the Windows operating system. If you have high speed internet access, you can download the Mepis ISO from www.mepis.com and burn it to a CD. The CD is live, meaning that you can then boot to the CD and it will run Linux straight off the CD without installing anything on your hard drive. If you have a high speed internet connection, Mepis should detect this also and give you internet connectivity straightaway. You can try the Konqueror browser on Mepis- I have found that it often does a better job of rendering MicroSoft created pages than does Mozilla and others. When I am in this position, I also like to take a few minutes to e-mail the webmaster, let him know that IE Explorer currently holds less than 90% of the browser market, and suggest that unless he wants to lose 10% or more of his business he needs to make the site browser-agnostic. Zeitgeist wrote: Win XP Had to give up on Opera, cuz it wasn't operating correctly within the system. Damn, this is maddening! On 1/15/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had luck with Konqueror. What OS are you running? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Not to start an argument, but the reason non-IE users have trouble is IE/Microsoft -- they are almost as bad as Apple for strange implementations of standards. This is not an accident, but deliberate attempts to prevent anyone else developing a usable product. I don't use IE for several reasons (mostly lousy support for my Macs, but also ActiveX virus susecptibilty) -- I strongly resent web pages and so forth that won't run properly on other people's browsers, most of which outperform IE when incompatible code is removed. If I'm forced to quite using Macs, I will switch to Linux -- the hassle of making Unix operate is more than worth the effort to get free of Microsoft. 'nough said. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
Peter Frederick wrote: Not to start an argument, but the reason non-IE users have trouble is IE/Microsoft -- they are almost as bad as Apple for strange implementations of standards. This is not an accident, but deliberate attempts to prevent anyone else developing a usable product. There are also a few people I know who run Firefox out of necessity. If IE happens to break, fixing it can be very difficult. Because it's part of the OS, you can't just remove it and then reinstall it. Using Firefox is sometimes a more expedient option than reinstalling Windows to get IE working again.
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You are probably best to do a clean install. I have a 2003 server that IE went wonky on after some adware started spawning zillions of popups. AVG got rid of the popups, but IE was still crippled. I did a second option repair and ie works most of the time, but still does some weird things. If you are running something other than XP at home, you could do an XP install as a dual boot, then boot to XP for work at home. At 09:20 AM 1/20/2006, you wrote: I suspect I'll need to reinstall Windows in order to re-enable IE. Under most circumstances I'd just say good riddance to that inferior browser, but here in WA, the State has entered into a deal with the devil (Gates, et al) and builds it's administrative web interfaces with MS architecture. Working from home, apparently requires that I use IE in order to properly view the web tables used in those interfaces. This really sucks. The cruelest thing about this, is that IE repeatedly crashes on the crappy XP computer I use at work. On 1/19/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are also a few people I know who run Firefox out of necessity. If IE happens to break, fixing it can be very difficult. Because it's part of the OS, you can't just remove it and then reinstall it. Using Firefox is sometimes a more expedient option than reinstalling Windows to get IE working again. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
Casey, can you not pick up a surplus laptop that you dedicate to only running IE? I snagged a Gateway the UW no longer needed and gave it to my oldest. All of $30 and it came with everything. I am sure there are warehouses filled with crap Olympia no longer uses just waiting for employees to take home. On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 07:20 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: I suspect I'll need to reinstall Windows in order to re-enable IE. Under most circumstances I'd just say good riddance to that inferior browser, but here in WA, the State has entered into a deal with the devil (Gates, et al) and builds it's administrative web interfaces with MS architecture. Working from home, apparently requires that I use IE in order to properly view the web tables used in those interfaces. This really sucks. The cruelest thing about this, is that IE repeatedly crashes on the crappy XP computer I use at work. On 1/19/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are also a few people I know who run Firefox out of necessity. If IE happens to break, fixing it can be very difficult. Because it's part of the OS, you can't just remove it and then reinstall it. Using Firefox is sometimes a more expedient option than reinstalling Windows to get IE working again. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
If I could find a laptop with Cat-5, or better yet, wireless capability for $30, I'd seriously wet myself. I don't work for the state, rather I contract with a non-profit as a legislative research analyst. They don't have too much free stuff floating around. On 1/20/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey, can you not pick up a surplus laptop that you dedicate to only running IE? I snagged a Gateway the UW no longer needed and gave it to my oldest. All of $30 and it came with everything. I am sure there are warehouses filled with crap Olympia no longer uses just waiting for employees to take home. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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I have had luck with Konqueror. What OS are you running? Zeitgeist wrote: is there another browser alternative that should display web tables very closely to IE specifications? Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
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Win XP Had to give up on Opera, cuz it wasn't operating correctly within the system. Damn, this is maddening! On 1/15/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had luck with Konqueror. What OS are you running? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?
I am suprised that you lost IE on a Windoze system. I mean, I am surprised you were able to. It used to be that deletion of IE would completely disable the Windows operating system. If you have high speed internet access, you can download the Mepis ISO from www.mepis.com and burn it to a CD. The CD is live, meaning that you can then boot to the CD and it will run Linux straight off the CD without installing anything on your hard drive. If you have a high speed internet connection, Mepis should detect this also and give you internet connectivity straightaway. You can try the Konqueror browser on Mepis- I have found that it often does a better job of rendering MicroSoft created pages than does Mozilla and others. When I am in this position, I also like to take a few minutes to e-mail the webmaster, let him know that IE Explorer currently holds less than 90% of the browser market, and suggest that unless he wants to lose 10% or more of his business he needs to make the site browser-agnostic. Zeitgeist wrote: Win XP Had to give up on Opera, cuz it wasn't operating correctly within the system. Damn, this is maddening! On 1/15/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had luck with Konqueror. What OS are you running? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
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Hopefully you're not still at work, but try this - open windows explorer - and type a web address into the address line instead of the file address - should work for you. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K
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Zeitgeist wrote: I'm working (on a Sunday!!!), and the legislative bill tracking webpage I'm working with doesn't display correctly in either Firefox or Netscape 8.0. A while back I managed to delete IE from my machine, or at least to disable it from loading somehow. I'd rather not download that odious MS product again, so is there another browser alternative that should display web tables very closely to IE specifications? Is there a way to get either those other two browsers to display tables differently? You could try Opera, but I don't know if it's any closer to IE. It's different from the Gecko engine used in Netscape/Firefox, though. There used to be a lot of alternative browsers out there for Windows that were really just different skins on top of the IE browser engine, which is a DLL that other pieces of software can load. You could try to find one of those. I can't think of the names of any, right of the bat, though.
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Thanks, Opera seems to be loading the page better, but still not exactly the same as IE. It is allowing my to see some critical tables that Firefox/Netscape didn't, which means I can actually get some real work done now. On 1/15/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could try Opera, but I don't know if it's any closer to IE. It's different from the Gecko engine used in Netscape/Firefox, though. There used to be a lot of alternative browsers out there for Windows that were really just different skins on top of the IE browser engine, which is a DLL that other pieces of software can load. You could try to find one of those. I can't think of the names of any, right of the bat, though. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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You have not deleted ie, but perhaps removed/hidden access to it. The basic functionality is embedded and required by the operating system. The core DLL's are referenced by os calls. If you delete the DLL's, the OS will crash - more than usual. If you dislike it that much, try Linux. -Dave Walton 94 S350, 99E300 On 1/15/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another computer related question. I'm working (on a Sunday!!!), and the legislative bill tracking webpage I'm working with doesn't display correctly in either Firefox or Netscape 8.0. A while back I managed to delete IE from my machine, or at least to disable it from loading somehow. I'd rather not download that odious MS product again, so is there another browser alternative that should display web tables very closely to IE specifications? Is there a way to get either those other two browsers to display tables differently? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
