Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Definitely an 88. I bought it the year I moved to WI, which was 88. October or November, as I got it shortly before Thanksgiving. The deer strike was on our trip back to Indianapolis for Thanksgiving…. -D > On Dec 11, 2018, at 12:58 AM, fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Dan wrote: > >> 1988, I believe. Bought it new, I think it was around $16k. > > From the taillight in the photo, I'd guess later than '84. > Probably before 89 but I'm less sure of that. > > I have a few of those around here. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
> G wrote: > Does anyone here use the "Deer Whistles" device that you mount > on front bumper? FLAPS most often carry them. About $10 or > less. The wind through them send out a sound that puts deer and > elk on high alert and they run away rather than toward your car. Mounting location can be important to make them work well. Hard to tell as the sound is ultrasonic to humans. It was those that inspired me to try using the car horn. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
> Kaleb wrote: > Oh so the old square body as they call it I believe. Yup. Squarebody pickups are '73-'87. Suburban and crew-cab are '73-'91. But there were some minor changes through those years ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
> Dan wrote: > 1988, I believe. Bought it new, I think it was around $16k. >From the taillight in the photo, I'd guess later than '84. Probably before 89 but I'm less sure of that. I have a few of those around here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I use them on all vehicles. After our pastor had two deer encounters I gave her a set: no deer strikes since. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G > Mann via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 12:28 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: G Mann > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley) > > Does anyone here use the "Deer Whistles" device that you mount on front > bumper? FLAPS most often carry them. About $10 or less. The wind through > them send out a sound that puts deer and elk on high alert and they run away > rather than toward your car. > > Seem to work quite well... certainly cheap insurance, small and don't detract > from car, attach easily. > I installed a set on all the ranch vehicles after I hit a deer on a desert > road. > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on > > fuel, especially on the highway. > > > > -D > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the > > > cream > > stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air > > caused trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was > > great. OD auto not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again > > by 200 K miles when I sold it. > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Wow, that's a blast from the past. At first I thought you meant Reagan. On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 1:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I thought Regan was the king of "I don't recall." > > -Curt > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018, 11:00:37 PM EST, Curley McLain via > Mercedes wrote: > > " I do not recall" Right up there with "depends on what yer definition > of is is" They BOTH need Depends! (for both ends) > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/9/18 9:53 PM: > > Thanks, those are the ones I have I was not correct in what I paid > for > > them and where I got them.. U senior moment? > > > > Or the Hillary defense.. "I do not recall" ? > > > > In any case, you nailed it them is it... > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I thought Regan was the king of "I don't recall." -Curt On Sunday, December 9, 2018, 11:00:37 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: " I do not recall" Right up there with "depends on what yer definition of is is" They BOTH need Depends! (for both ends) G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/9/18 9:53 PM: > Thanks, those are the ones I have I was not correct in what I paid for > them and where I got them.. U senior moment? > > Or the Hillary defense.. "I do not recall" ? > > In any case, you nailed it them is it... > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
" I do not recall" Right up there with "depends on what yer definition of is is" They BOTH need Depends! (for both ends) G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/9/18 9:53 PM: Thanks, those are the ones I have I was not correct in what I paid for them and where I got them.. U senior moment? Or the Hillary defense.. "I do not recall" ? In any case, you nailed it them is it... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Thanks, those are the ones I have I was not correct in what I paid for them and where I got them.. U senior moment? Or the Hillary defense.. "I do not recall" ? In any case, you nailed it them is it... On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 2:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I use only the Sav-a-Life deer alert. These are made in Germany and > sold by someone in NYC, or sometimes available for less on fleabay. > They are NOT $10, and they don't make the bambi run, they make the bambi > stop in their tracks. I can attest they DO work at speeds over 40 mph > or so. > > http://www.sav-a-life.com/catalog/search > > EX: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deer-Alert-Deer-whistles-DAAB-NEW-in-package/310717232241 > ? > This is a pretty good price. > > The $10 flaps ones, made in china; Well made in china pretty much says > it all. YMWV. > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/9/18 11:28 AM: > > Does anyone here use the "Deer Whistles" device that you mount on front > > bumper? FLAPS most often carry them. About $10 or less. The wind through > > them send out a sound that puts deer and elk on high alert and they run > > away rather than toward your car. > > > > Seem to work quite well... certainly cheap insurance, small and don't > > detract from car, attach easily. > > I installed a set on all the ranch vehicles after I hit a deer on a > desert > > road. > > > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on > >> fuel, especially on the highway. > >> > >> -D > >> > >> > >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >>> I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the > cream > >> stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused > >> trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD > >> auto not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K > miles > >> when I sold it. > >>> > >>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Yes we used to catch land locked salmon in Lake Ontario. also in finger lakes- 'Cayuga Lake'. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 9, 2018 6:33 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Uh, yeah, there are salmon in the Great Lakes. Have been for decades. > > http://www.salmonfishingnow.com/great-lakes-salmon-fishing/ > > -D > > > > > On Dec 9, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 09:05:05 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> You can see the corner of it in this picture of my father in law. > >> That’s the salmon he caught in the river behind our house in Sheboygan, > >> WI along with the broken fishing rod…. that’s his Buick in the > >> background. > >> > >> http://penoff.com/photodump.html#0 > > > > Salmon in Wisconsin? Never heard of that before ... > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Uh, yeah, there are salmon in the Great Lakes. Have been for decades. http://www.salmonfishingnow.com/great-lakes-salmon-fishing/ -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 09:05:05 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> You can see the corner of it in this picture of my father in law. >> That’s the salmon he caught in the river behind our house in Sheboygan, >> WI along with the broken fishing rod…. that’s his Buick in the >> background. >> >> http://penoff.com/photodump.html#0 > > Salmon in Wisconsin? Never heard of that before ... > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 09:05:05 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > You can see the corner of it in this picture of my father in law. > That’s the salmon he caught in the river behind our house in Sheboygan, > WI along with the broken fishing rod…. that’s his Buick in the > background. > > http://penoff.com/photodump.html#0 Salmon in Wisconsin? Never heard of that before ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I use only the Sav-a-Life deer alert. These are made in Germany and sold by someone in NYC, or sometimes available for less on fleabay. They are NOT $10, and they don't make the bambi run, they make the bambi stop in their tracks. I can attest they DO work at speeds over 40 mph or so. http://www.sav-a-life.com/catalog/search EX: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deer-Alert-Deer-whistles-DAAB-NEW-in-package/310717232241? This is a pretty good price. The $10 flaps ones, made in china; Well made in china pretty much says it all. YMWV. G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/9/18 11:28 AM: Does anyone here use the "Deer Whistles" device that you mount on front bumper? FLAPS most often carry them. About $10 or less. The wind through them send out a sound that puts deer and elk on high alert and they run away rather than toward your car. Seem to work quite well... certainly cheap insurance, small and don't detract from car, attach easily. I installed a set on all the ranch vehicles after I hit a deer on a desert road. On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on fuel, especially on the highway. -D On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the cream stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD auto not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K miles when I sold it. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
It’s a purely subjective thing. I knew people in WI that swore by them, because they had never hit a deer. However, I’m not really sure that’s a valid assumption. Can’t hurt. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 12:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does anyone here use the "Deer Whistles" device that you mount on front > bumper? FLAPS most often carry them. About $10 or less. The wind through > them send out a sound that puts deer and elk on high alert and they run > away rather than toward your car. > > Seem to work quite well... certainly cheap insurance, small and don't > detract from car, attach easily. > I installed a set on all the ranch vehicles after I hit a deer on a desert > road. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
My carbed version wasn't bad on the highway either. However, as the transmission got old it required effort to keep it in overdrive. When it dropped into 3rd the rpm rose and the mileage dropped. Also noisy and rougher at 3K plus rpm. In 4th around 2K rpm. Had to be very light on the gas pedal or it would shift down and proved difficult to get it back into 4th at higher speeds. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-09 9:58 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley) The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on fuel, especially on the highway. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the cream > stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused > trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD auto > not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K miles when I > sold it. > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I had an 87 Blazer I loved but it rusted out in the rear after I moved to Houston from Boston area and the rear tailgate would no longer open. I had put a new engine in it, which I pulled along with the tranny and have in the garage, and gave the hulk to some guy I knew who was into cars. Engine had the TBI which was somewhat problematic toward the end. I found some app a guy in Finland or somewhere had made to run on XP, along with a little circuit he designed you could tap into the ALDI (I think that is what it was called) and read engine data in real time on a laptop. I did that a few times, it was kinda interesting, but reprogramming the computer was a very involved thing. A newer 4bbl or a controllable throttle body injection system would probably be the thing to do if I ever do something with the engine. As I recall it would get about 17 on the highway, about what the 96 Silverado and 2000 Suburban get. Not a lot of progress in that aspect. --FT On 12/9/18 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on fuel, especially on the highway. -D On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the cream stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD auto not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K miles when I sold it. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Does anyone here use the "Deer Whistles" device that you mount on front bumper? FLAPS most often carry them. About $10 or less. The wind through them send out a sound that puts deer and elk on high alert and they run away rather than toward your car. Seem to work quite well... certainly cheap insurance, small and don't detract from car, attach easily. I installed a set on all the ranch vehicles after I hit a deer on a desert road. On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on > fuel, especially on the highway. > > -D > > > > On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the cream > stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused > trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD > auto not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K miles > when I sold it. > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
The 88 had throttle body injection, so it was actually pretty good on fuel, especially on the highway. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:46 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the cream > stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused > trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD auto > not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K miles when I > sold it. > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I drove an 86 Silverado Suburban for almost 10 years. Red with the cream stripe around the middle. 2WD, barn doors, 3rd seat etc. Rear air caused trouble. Salt ate the pipes underneath twice. 350 4 barrel was great. OD auto not so good. Rebuilt once and needed to be done again by 200 K miles when I sold it. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-09 8:05 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley) 1988, I believe. Bought it new, I think it was around $16k. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > What year was it? > > I always like to keep as Suburban around. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a >> heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up >> Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high >> volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, >> overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise >> control, thank goodness. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Beats me. Just a base model 1988 Suburban. You couldn’t get much more basic than this one. They thought I was nuts because I didn’t care that it didn’t have a radio. I sold it a couple years later and actually made money on it. That was when I started with my 300TD. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oh so the old square body as they call it I believe. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> 1988, I believe. Bought it new, I think it was around $16k. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> What year was it? >>> >>> I always like to keep as Suburban around. >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Nice Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > You can see the corner of it in this picture of my father in law. That’s the > salmon he caught in the river behind our house in Sheboygan, WI along with > the broken fishing rod…. that’s his Buick in the background. > > http://penoff.com/photodump.html#0 > > -D > > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a >> heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up >> Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high >> volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, >> overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise >> control, thank goodness. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Oh so the old square body as they call it I believe. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > 1988, I believe. Bought it new, I think it was around $16k. > > -D > > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> What year was it? >> >> I always like to keep as Suburban around. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a >>> heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up >>> Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high >>> volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, >>> overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise >>> control, thank goodness. >>> >>> -D >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
1988, I believe. Bought it new, I think it was around $16k. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > What year was it? > > I always like to keep as Suburban around. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a >> heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up >> Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high >> volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, >> overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise >> control, thank goodness. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
You can see the corner of it in this picture of my father in law. That’s the salmon he caught in the river behind our house in Sheboygan, WI along with the broken fishing rod…. that’s his Buick in the background. http://penoff.com/photodump.html#0 -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a > heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up > Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high > volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, > overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise > control, thank goodness. > > -D > > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
What year was it? I always like to keep as Suburban around. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a > heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up > Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high > volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, > overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise > control, thank goodness. > > -D > > >> On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Yup. Brown, base model, AC, heater and rubber floor mats, no radio. Had a heck of a time finding it, as everything the dealers had was all tarted up Wisconsin station wagon style. Had to go to Milwaukee to find it at a high volume Chevy dealer that did a lot of work trucks. 350 short block, overdrive auto, actually got pretty good mileage. It did have cruise control, thank goodness. -D > On Dec 9, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I can’t picture you driving a Suburban. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The one I hit with the Suburban I didn’t kill. I was going down I-43 just > south of Sheboygan, WI when it started to run into the road. I was driving > at highway speed and my youngster was in the cargo area unsecured, so I > slowed down as quickly as I could in order to not make him become airborne. > The deer lost it’s footing on the hard surfaced road, and instead of ending > up directly in front of me, got hit in the head by my passenger side mirror. > > That spun it around so that it slammed into the passenger side (front) door > parallel to the truck, after which it bounced into the road behind me. An > elderly couple in a Buick then hit it head on, causing it to fly over their > car and land on the shoulder of the road. > > I pulled over immediately, saw Old People were OK but stunned, then noticed > the two kids in the Chrysler K-car pull over, get out, grab the deer carcass > by the legs and toss it into their trunk, then drive off. At that point I > was calling the sheriff to get an accident report filed so I had something to > turn into my insurance company. > > Ironically, this was an area where there were cornfields on both sides of the > interstate, and deer were quite common in the area as they were out in the > fields eating the corn stubble. The wife drove through it daily during her > commute, and never once encountered a deer. Needless to say she gave me a > lot of crap about this…. > > -D > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I've tapped 2 deer, one I hit in the butt with my Ranger, I don't think it >> killed her, I never found her anyway. That one bent the bumper into the tire >> at hard lock and ruined the fog light.The other I hit with my '85 190D (MB >> content), it was standing on the yellow line when I noticed it and commenced >> hard braking. I ended up hitting that one in the face with the driver's >> mirror. The fact that it didn't break the mirror suggests I didn't hit it >> that hard. We got stopped and I looked back to see the deer shake its head >> and bound off the road... >> -Curt >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
It has been crazy season around here lately with the boy deers chasing the girl deers and other boy deers to get them away from the girl deers they lust after, and paying NO attention to anything else, esp cars on the roads. I drive the 2-lane country roads on this island and at night one has to be especially careful as there will be multiples running across chasing or being chased. So far so good for me but there are plenty around to keep the clean-up crews well-fed. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > deer ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
The one I hit with the Suburban I didn’t kill. I was going down I-43 just south of Sheboygan, WI when it started to run into the road. I was driving at highway speed and my youngster was in the cargo area unsecured, so I slowed down as quickly as I could in order to not make him become airborne. The deer lost it’s footing on the hard surfaced road, and instead of ending up directly in front of me, got hit in the head by my passenger side mirror. That spun it around so that it slammed into the passenger side (front) door parallel to the truck, after which it bounced into the road behind me. An elderly couple in a Buick then hit it head on, causing it to fly over their car and land on the shoulder of the road. I pulled over immediately, saw Old People were OK but stunned, then noticed the two kids in the Chrysler K-car pull over, get out, grab the deer carcass by the legs and toss it into their trunk, then drive off. At that point I was calling the sheriff to get an accident report filed so I had something to turn into my insurance company. Ironically, this was an area where there were cornfields on both sides of the interstate, and deer were quite common in the area as they were out in the fields eating the corn stubble. The wife drove through it daily during her commute, and never once encountered a deer. Needless to say she gave me a lot of crap about this…. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've tapped 2 deer, one I hit in the butt with my Ranger, I don't think it > killed her, I never found her anyway. That one bent the bumper into the tire > at hard lock and ruined the fog light.The other I hit with my '85 190D (MB > content), it was standing on the yellow line when I noticed it and commenced > hard braking. I ended up hitting that one in the face with the driver's > mirror. The fact that it didn't break the mirror suggests I didn't hit it > that hard. We got stopped and I looked back to see the deer shake its head > and bound off the road... > -Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I've tapped 2 deer, one I hit in the butt with my Ranger, I don't think it killed her, I never found her anyway. That one bent the bumper into the tire at hard lock and ruined the fog light.The other I hit with my '85 190D (MB content), it was standing on the yellow line when I noticed it and commenced hard braking. I ended up hitting that one in the face with the driver's mirror. The fact that it didn't break the mirror suggests I didn't hit it that hard. We got stopped and I looked back to see the deer shake its head and bound off the road... -Curt On Saturday, December 8, 2018, 4:08:06 PM EST, ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote: Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread. I merely started it as somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise. Similar to the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks. I realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to discuss. As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile. I will probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 300SD and put it back on the road. As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. Now I continue to do the same in the South. I've been lucky having driven for over 50 years and never hit a deer. I just hope to stay lucky. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
Yes, I definitely agree about the horn. I use it when necessary. Where I grew up there weren't many deer, but you had to worry more about a cow out of pasture or a horse on the lose, etc. I still rely more on my vision and constant search of both roadsides. It has served me well so far and I only hope it continues. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Stop. Back up. Or do your best Boris Badenov impression. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:35:52 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Using the horn is a bad idea with moose. They take it as a challenge >> and will charge the vehicle. > > Oops. > > So what does one do when encountering a moose? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:35:52 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > Using the horn is a bad idea with moose. They take it as a challenge > and will charge the vehicle. Oops. So what does one do when encountering a moose? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Using the horn is a bad idea with moose. They take it as a challenge and will charge the vehicle. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: fmiser via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-08 4:32 PM (GMT-06:00) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser , ROGER HALE Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley) > ROGER wrote: > As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive > "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up > North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the > road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. That is the first step. Then, the most effective reaction is to sound the horn. And not a polite "toot, toot" but push the button and keep pushing until the risk is over. At the same time, slow down. And don't keep watching the deer you spotted. Very often there are more around and any that you see you have already seen and the _unseen_ ones are the most surprising. This is based on many, many miles of driving in rural deer country. So while I have impacted many deer, the one that got this wagon is the only contact in the last decade or so that I have used the horn. There have been at least a dozen situations that could have easily included impact. Of course, I can't say what would have really happened. In urban and suburban, the horn sounding may be an issue. Use at your own risk. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 16:27:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I deeply appreciate the fine work that went into creating these sorts > of things, and I really enjoy looking at them in detail to see how the > builder made certain joints or applied marquetry to enhance a part of > the design. >From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquetry: Marquetry (also spelled as marqueterie; from the French marqueter, to varigate) is the art and craft of applying pieces of veneer to a structure to form decorative patterns, designs or pictures. The technique may be applied to case furniture or even seat furniture, to decorative small objects with smooth, veneerable surfaces or to freestanding pictorial panels appreciated in their own right. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
> ROGER wrote: > As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive > "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up > North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the > road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. That is the first step. Then, the most effective reaction is to sound the horn. And not a polite "toot, toot" but push the button and keep pushing until the risk is over. At the same time, slow down. And don't keep watching the deer you spotted. Very often there are more around and any that you see you have already seen and the _unseen_ ones are the most surprising. This is based on many, many miles of driving in rural deer country. So while I have impacted many deer, the one that got this wagon is the only contact in the last decade or so that I have used the horn. There have been at least a dozen situations that could have easily included impact. Of course, I can't say what would have really happened. In urban and suburban, the horn sounding may be an issue. Use at your own risk. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Roger, I thought your 300SD was pretty much a daily driver? Is that not the case? I’m a little curious about something, as I was thinking about you the other day. There’s a high end resale furniture shop that I frequent here, since I used to build custom furniture when I had the space and equipment to do so. I like to go in and look over the pieces they take in, which are sometimes very unusual and unique pieces from estates and other such sources. I deeply appreciate the fine work that went into creating these sorts of things, and I really enjoy looking at them in detail to see how the builder made certain joints or applied marquetry to enhance a part of the design. While I was speaking with one of the owners as I walked through the store with them, they were bemoaning the fact that furniture such as china cabinets and sideboards were falling by the wayside and starting to disappear from a lot of furniture builder’s catalogs. They seem to think that the current generations no longer place any value on such legacy possessions such as the family silver or china, or have any desire to own furniture such as this. They say that more often than not, younger clients are coming in and buying dining room furniture and leaving the china cabinets behind. Since you deal in china, I was wondering if you are seeing a similar decrease in interest in such things? On a related note, I was just looking at our family silver that was handed down to me. We use it when we have family gatherings or guests, but I can see why others might not place a lot of value on such things. For that matter, I was also looking at the tea service I gave the wife for an anniversary gift many, many years ago. It has almost no value on the market these days - not that we would ever sell it. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:07 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread. I merely started it as > somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise. Similar > to the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese > favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks. > I realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to > discuss. As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile. I will > probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 > 300SD and put it back on the road. > > As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and > currently drive in the South. When learning up North, the main issue was to > constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. > Now I continue to do the same in the South. I've been lucky having driven > for over 50 years and never hit a deer. I just hope to stay lucky. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread. I merely started it as somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise. Similar to the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks. I realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to discuss. As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile. I will probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 300SD and put it back on the road. As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. Now I continue to do the same in the South. I've been lucky having driven for over 50 years and never hit a deer. I just hope to stay lucky. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Well, since Roger tagged me to this thread... I have a W163 that had been sitting for a few weeks. The previous owner sold it to State Farm after pasting a deer with the left front corner. I have no idea what happened to the venison. I replaced the radiator, headlight, hood/grille, and fender. Still need to replace the fog light, and the front bumper cover has cracks in it, but the cracks are no longer stuffed with deer hair. This weekend's projects include replacing 12 spark plugs and changing the oil. Mitch. > On December 7, 2018 at 11:06 PM fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > I have a wagon that has been sitting for a few years. It was > taken out of active duty after a high-energy impact with a deer. > The venison is all gone, and I got the car back on the road a > month or so ago. Dan P. would be aghast at the fit and finish - > it's pretty ugly, and Dimitri would probably cry at the crooked > and twisted metal that's still there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
As Pierre often says to me, “We saved another one!!” This is a Good Thing. -D > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Waytago!Glad the car is back on the road! > > Functional, is more important than appearance. > > Too bad more of us don't have Dimitri's talent! > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 10:06 PM: >> >> I have a wagon that has been sitting for a few years. It was >> taken out of active duty after a high-energy impact with a deer. >> The venison is all gone, and I got the car back on the road a >> month or so ago. Dan P. would be aghast at the fit and finish - >> it's pretty ugly, and Dimitri would probably cry at the crooked >> and twisted metal that's still there. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Waytago! Glad the car is back on the road! Functional, is more important than appearance. Too bad more of us don't have Dimitri's talent! fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 10:06 PM: I have a wagon that has been sitting for a few years. It was taken out of active duty after a high-energy impact with a deer. The venison is all gone, and I got the car back on the road a month or so ago. Dan P. would be aghast at the fit and finish - it's pretty ugly, and Dimitri would probably cry at the crooked and twisted metal that's still there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
> > Roger wrote: > > > > This is a sad Mercedes day. Our list has declined down to > > "compost from road kill). Oh the humanity I can remember > > a time when... > Dwight wrote: > I agree Roger & share blame for this . We should return to Dr. > Booth rules. I did hit a deer a year ago with my 90 300D. MB 1- > deer 0.+ I have a wagon that has been sitting for a few years. It was taken out of active duty after a high-energy impact with a deer. The venison is all gone, and I got the car back on the road a month or so ago. Dan P. would be aghast at the fit and finish - it's pretty ugly, and Dimitri would probably cry at the crooked and twisted metal that's still there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I agree Roger & share blame for this . We should return to Dr. Booth rules. I did hit a deer a year ago with my 90 300D. MB 1- deer 0.+ Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2018 10:23 PM, "ROGER HALE via Mercedes" wrote: > This is a sad Mercedes day. Our list has declined down to "compost from > road kill). Oh the humanity I can remember a time when... > > Best Wishes and Merry Christmas to all > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
This is a sad Mercedes day. Our list has declined down to "compost from road kill). Oh the humanity I can remember a time when... Best Wishes and Merry Christmas to all Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
The deputy breaking the law got off for $195. Less than speeding tickets in some places. They shoulda had his badge. Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 8:03 PM: There was a recent case in which a LEO was prosecuted for that. He was called to the scene to provide a salvage tag for the deer. He refused to issue a salvage tag (minor dereliction of duty), and then was seen later sawing the antlers off of it without issuing himself a tag first (big fish and game violation). https://www.1380kcim.com/news/2018/greene-county-deputy-cited-by-dnr-for-unlawfully-harvesting-deer-antlers/ Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
I hear you. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2018 9:45 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > It is near DC. Waste is a way of life! > > Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 7:26 PM: > >> What a waste of good road kill. Places I have lived regarded grilled >> venison & grilled turkey as,staples. When i was,a vol firefighter & we >> got >> roadkill call we put out code so known road kill fans would come & get it >> while sherrif looked,away. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
It is near DC. Waste is a way of life! Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 7:26 PM: What a waste of good road kill. Places I have lived regarded grilled venison & grilled turkey as,staples. When i was,a vol firefighter & we got roadkill call we put out code so known road kill fans would come & get it while sherrif looked,away. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
I believe it. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2018 9:15 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" wrote: > > > On December 7, 2018 at 8:19 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > 10,000 bambis a year hit, x what? $3500 damage to each vehicle on > > average? That is $35,000,000 a year in damages to vehicles just in MD, > > a state not known for deer hunting or big deer. > > Back in the 1990s, a friend of mine in CT claimed that Martha walked into > a gun store while he was there. She was looking for somebody to come to her > neighborhood and shoot the deer who were eating her ornamental plantings > and tearing up her landscaping. They had to clue her in on a few details, > like game seasons, bag limits, and especially bans on shooting in > residential areas. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
> On December 7, 2018 at 8:19 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > 10,000 bambis a year hit, x what? $3500 damage to each vehicle on > average? That is $35,000,000 a year in damages to vehicles just in MD, > a state not known for deer hunting or big deer. Back in the 1990s, a friend of mine in CT claimed that Martha walked into a gun store while he was there. She was looking for somebody to come to her neighborhood and shoot the deer who were eating her ornamental plantings and tearing up her landscaping. They had to clue her in on a few details, like game seasons, bag limits, and especially bans on shooting in residential areas. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
There was a recent case in which a LEO was prosecuted for that. He was called to the scene to provide a salvage tag for the deer. He refused to issue a salvage tag (minor dereliction of duty), and then was seen later sawing the antlers off of it without issuing himself a tag first (big fish and game violation). https://www.1380kcim.com/news/2018/greene-county-deputy-cited-by-dnr-for-unlawfully-harvesting-deer-antlers/ Mitch. > On December 7, 2018 at 8:50 PM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > In WI if you hit a deer you have to buy a tag if you want to keep it. > > I hit a deer years ago with my brand new Chevy Suburban. The deer didn’t > survive, and while I was surveying the damage to my truck two kids in a K car > pull over, grab the carcass, toss it in their trunk and take off. I’m up > thinking that, “That was nice of them, saves the highway guys the hassle of > cleaning up.” > > When I call the sheriff’s office to report the damage they were more worried > about who took the deer. The sheriff wanted a description of the two guys and > their car rather than filling out an accident report for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
In WI if you hit a deer you have to buy a tag if you want to keep it. I hit a deer years ago with my brand new Chevy Suburban. The deer didn’t survive, and while I was surveying the damage to my truck two kids in a K car pull over, grab the carcass, toss it in their trunk and take off. I’m up thinking that, “That was nice of them, saves the highway guys the hassle of cleaning up.” When I call the sheriff’s office to report the damage they were more worried about who took the deer. The sheriff wanted a description of the two guys and their car rather than filling out an accident report for me. -D > On Dec 7, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > What a waste of good road kill. Places I have lived regarded grilled > venison & grilled turkey as,staples. When i was,a vol firefighter & we got > roadkill call we put out code so known road kill fans would come & get it > while sherrif looked,away. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Dec 7, 2018 3:52 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> MARYLANDHighway agency turns its roadkill compost into turfPublished: >> Friday, December 7, 2018 >> >> Deer are acting up for mating season — and while that means more collisions >> with motorists and more roadkill, for the Maryland State Highway >> Administration, it also means more compost. >> >> Spokesman Charlie Gischlar said the administration has been turning dead >> deer into compost since 2004, when the program started in Carroll County, >> Md. Now, there's a second facility in Frederick County that helps in the >> effort. >> >> The recipe is simple: deer carcasses, manure and wood chips. Let that >> decompose long enough, and you've got compost. >> >> Gary Felton, an associate professor and agricultural extension specialist >> with the University of Maryland for almost 25 years, said the deer >> concoction checks all the boxes of a good compost — but it suffers from two >> major problems. >> >> "Big bones don't decompose very fast, so you end up with big bones if you >> don't sift [the compost]," Felton said. "That's a common thing to do, but >> for the State Highway Administration, that means more money." >> >> And the second problem he listed is exactly what you'd imagine: "The >> concept that people have of 'yuck, that's a dead body.'" >> >> The deer compost naturally heats up to temperatures between 130 and 160 >> degrees Fahrenheit when the microbes in the mix are consuming carbon, >> Felton said, so the final product is pathogen-free. >> >> Even so, Gischlar said, the mix is only used to enrich native wildflowers >> near roads. >> >> Felton, who has advised the administration on their compost, said this year >> the mix was also extended to growing turf in medians and beside roads — and >> that even though it was safe to use on all plants, those two projects used >> up the State Highway Administration's supply of deer compost. >> >> There's no one place to find the number of deer struck by motor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
What a waste of good road kill. Places I have lived regarded grilled venison & grilled turkey as,staples. When i was,a vol firefighter & we got roadkill call we put out code so known road kill fans would come & get it while sherrif looked,away. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2018 3:52 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > MARYLANDHighway agency turns its roadkill compost into turfPublished: > Friday, December 7, 2018 > > Deer are acting up for mating season — and while that means more collisions > with motorists and more roadkill, for the Maryland State Highway > Administration, it also means more compost. > > Spokesman Charlie Gischlar said the administration has been turning dead > deer into compost since 2004, when the program started in Carroll County, > Md. Now, there's a second facility in Frederick County that helps in the > effort. > > The recipe is simple: deer carcasses, manure and wood chips. Let that > decompose long enough, and you've got compost. > > Gary Felton, an associate professor and agricultural extension specialist > with the University of Maryland for almost 25 years, said the deer > concoction checks all the boxes of a good compost — but it suffers from two > major problems. > > "Big bones don't decompose very fast, so you end up with big bones if you > don't sift [the compost]," Felton said. "That's a common thing to do, but > for the State Highway Administration, that means more money." > > And the second problem he listed is exactly what you'd imagine: "The > concept that people have of 'yuck, that's a dead body.'" > > The deer compost naturally heats up to temperatures between 130 and 160 > degrees Fahrenheit when the microbes in the mix are consuming carbon, > Felton said, so the final product is pathogen-free. > > Even so, Gischlar said, the mix is only used to enrich native wildflowers > near roads. > > Felton, who has advised the administration on their compost, said this year > the mix was also extended to growing turf in medians and beside roads — and > that even though it was safe to use on all plants, those two projects used > up the State Highway Administration's supply of deer compost. > > There's no one place to find the number of deer struck by motorists in > Maryland per year, but administration data show that between January and > October of this year, its workers have responded to 9,800 reports of deer > carcasses on state roads. > > Gischlar said the deer that are not composted are either buried or given to > outside rendering companies. *— Savannah Williams, Capital News > Service/Associated Press* > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
10,000 bambis a year hit, x what? $3500 damage to each vehicle on average? That is $35,000,000 a year in damages to vehicles just in MD, a state not known for deer hunting or big deer. If there are 20 states at that rate, the damage would be $700 million a year. I sispect there are more than 200,000 bambi hits a year, plus this does not include the ones where bambi didn't die, or wandered off the right of way before croaking. Safe to say that over a billion a year damage done to vehicles. Eat more Bambi! Save on insurance! Lobby your legislature for open season anytime the temp is below 40º at night. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 2:51 PM: MARYLANDHighway agency turns its roadkill compost into turfPublished: Friday, December 7, 2018 There's no one place to find the number of deer struck by motorists in Maryland per year, but administration data show that between January and October of this year, its workers have responded to 9,800 reports of deer carcasses on state roads. Gischlar said the deer that are not composted are either buried or given to outside rendering companies. *— Savannah Williams, Capital News Service/Associated Press* __ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com