Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
Costco sells Preservision? Cool! When I look at the grid I see elephants and tigers, oh my! On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 8:59 AM wrote: > Here's the price sheets for Costco lenses. > When I photographed the bifocal/trifocal page I cut off the prism info. > Sorry. > > Most frames are $60-80. > Kirklands are all $60. > Ray Ban are $100. > Some fashion frames (Coach etc) are $200-600. > Compared to retail optician prices, I can believe the claim that Costco > aims to break even in stores and profit on memberships. > > Same patient/simultaneous orders get $50 off on each frame/Rx lens set > after the first one. So if I bought general use/sunglass/computer glass > I'd save $100 and be looking at about $350 for all 3. > > Mom's frames are both titanium and both $60. The Saki is made in Japan. > The Jill Stuart is made in China, as are 95% of frames at Costco. An > equivalent Saki/Japan for men is $75. I found a good looking Bulova > men's frame for $75, but it's made in China. > The Saki mom bought would fit me, but the only color Costco has is rose > gold (metallic pink), so I'll pay $75 for black. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On 2024-06-15 23:44, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 23:12:50 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I have adult diplopia/strabismus - aka double vision ... I have Rxs for lenses to correct the diplopia. I will try Costco. IIRC, Costco does not do prism (wedge) corrections. We ordered glasses at Costco for my mom Thursday. She's 1 BU 1 BO on the right, and 1 BD 1 BO on the left. I just looked it up on the Costco order sheet. I'll send the progressive lens price sheet to Craig, Andrew and Dan in a separate email. Most of the lenses are available with prism up to 5.5 or 6.0. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On 2024-06-15 23:03, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I’ve worn progressives from the start, and have learned that it’s important to have “tall” lenses so that the transition isn’t too “quick,” for lack of a better description. When “thin” styles were all the rage I tried a set and quickly realized these would not work for me. Remember OmniLux? This started out as a thread about OmniLux. Some brands of progressive lens can be had with a transition corridor as tall as 18mm. OmniLux is 22mm. Progressives are like no-line trifocals. Most of the induced astigmatism (swim) on the sides is due to the two spots where the transition is somewhat abrupt. OmniLux is a continuous (but not linear) transition from 20 to 1 foot. You still get the bad areas on the sides but they aren't riddled with astigmatism. The good zone on a progressive is hourglass shaped, with the top part (full distance vision) as wide as the lens, the bottom part (reading zone) much narrower, and the good zone at intermediate range is practically a pinpoint. The good zone with OmniLux is funnel shaped. Again you have a full width 20' zone, and then it gets narrower as you get down towards the bottom of the lens. Where the narrowest useful area in a PAL is right in the middle, with OmniLux the narrow part is on the bottom. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
I have what I was told, ten years ago, was a very aggressive form of AMD. Aggressive in that there was no evidence of it in an exam then at the next exam it was like, whoa! I’ve been taking the generic/Costco version of the Presservision and I look at the grid on the fridge every morning for about 10 years and things are going well. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have adult diplopia/strabismus - aka double vision - and just learned I > also have age related macular degeneration (AMD) in the right eye. Anyone > else with AMD? > > The eye doctor prescribed Preservision vitamins to see if that arrests the > AMD in 6 months. I have Rxs for lenses to correct the diplopia. I will > try Costco. > >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 11:04 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Starting about 25 years ago my near vision started to go. Slowly at first, >> then more rapidly over about a 5 year period. Neighbor/friend is an >> ophthalmologist and she kept close tabs on my vision. It was mainly due to >> aging, as expected. >> >> I see her once a year, and for the past 3-4 years my prescription has >> barely changed, mainly refinements to my distance vision. >> >> I’ve worn progressives from the start, and have learned that it’s >> important to have “tall” lenses so that the transition isn’t too “quick,” >> for lack of a better description. When “thin” styles were all the rage I >> tried a set and quickly realized these would not work for me. >> >> That latest pair of glasses I ordered and returned to Zennie has >> disappeared into a black hole. They said 14 days to “review” but I haven’t >> heard a peep. >> >> -D >> >>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 7:55 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 2024-06-15 22:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Is “monovision” like when they do LASIK and one eye does close and the >> other dies distance? That always seemed weird to me. >>> >>> Yes. >>> I believe it's intended for people who don't like to wear glasses >> because they value vanity over seeing properly. Most people get used to it >> over time. The guy I'm talking about invested in two pair of glasses with >> high end Carl Zeiss lenses to undo the effects of monovision. But 20 years >> later he does go without glasses some of the time. >>> Back when it happened, there was a lot of "if you want to go with us, >> hop in the damn car already" "wait a minute, I just realized I'm wearing my >> computer glasses. I have to go back in the house and change". His first eye >> was 20/15 post surgery. If they'd tried to do the same to the other eye he >> would have been happy, even if it came out 20/30. >>> >>> Now back to me. My non dominate eye is easily correctable to 20/20, >> almost good enough for the 20/15 line on the chart. Trying to do a >> refractive exam on my dominate eye drives me nuts because it never really >> gets sharp, except momentarily it almost gets good before going bad again. >> It's not horrible, but I just closed my right eye while typing this and the >> screen went fuzzy. All the sharpness is coming from my left eye. >>> When I wake up in the morning my vision is blurry and then gradually >> clears up. I finally figured it out just now, it clears up when my left eye >> takes over. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 23:12:50 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > I have adult diplopia/strabismus - aka double vision ... I have Rxs > for lenses to correct the diplopia. I will try Costco. IIRC, Costco does not do prism (wedge) corrections. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
Yeah now that I think more about it, my friend who was complaining about it could have had the surgery covered, but implanting corrective lenses was the part that was not covered, as that was considered "cosmetic." He had the droopy eyelids too, and got those fixed. On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, at 19:12, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Not quite true. > > Medicare Parts A & B cover the diagnosis and treatment of cataracts > when it has been deemed “medically necessary.” That’s the catch. In > other words, you’ve probably got to be close to legally blind before > you qualify. > > I have droopy eyelids like my Mom did, and they’ve flat-out told me > that they won’t consider corrective surgery until they’re blocking my > vision. > > -D > >> On Jun 15, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> If your insurance covers cataracts get it done. Medicare doesn’t, from what >> I’ve heard, so don’t wait until you retire. >> >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, at 15:52, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: >>> Took my mom to the Costco in East Lansing MI Thursday. >>> We used the optometrist who rents an office inside Costco, who turned >>> out to be great. >>> $79 for full exam. He listened to her complaints of double vision when >>> fatigued, and spent a lot of time dialing in prism correction to >>> eliminate it. >>> >>> Now on to the optical department. Found a Japanese titanium frame that >>> fit her and was very lightweight. $60. She had polycarb trifocals and >>> wanted to stick with that. OK, lenses, $110, all coatings included in >>> the base price. For reference, the frame was nicer than she currently >>> wears, the lenses identical, and she paid $252 (plus $256 from her >>> insurance coverage) in 2019. OK, we're half done. Found a slightly >>> larger frame, also titanium, also $60, but made in China like everything >>> else. Bifocal polarized gray sunglasses, also polycarb, $108. Discount >>> for buying multiple sets of glasses for the same patient in the same >>> order: $50. Total $118 for sunglasses, plus $170 for the first pair, is >>> $288 for glasses. >>> >>> Now about me: I saw the same optometrist today for a 2nd opinion on my >>> Rx and to fix my computer glasses Rx that my MD wrote for 16 away when I >>> need 20-24". He wrote my Rx, but referred me to a surgeon and >>> recommended I don't buy glasses yet. When I went to my MD two months >>> ago, I fully expected we'd be setting up a referral for cataract >>> removal, but he didn't think it was time yet. The DO agrees that I'm >>> having trouble seeing, and thinks everything in my eyes is OK except for >>> the cataracts. Therefore he thinks the reason my dominate right eye is >>> blurred is cataracts. >>> >>> Everybody I know says they wished they'd had their cataracts removed >>> years earlier than they did. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
I have adult diplopia/strabismus - aka double vision - and just learned I also have age related macular degeneration (AMD) in the right eye. Anyone else with AMD? The eye doctor prescribed Preservision vitamins to see if that arrests the AMD in 6 months. I have Rxs for lenses to correct the diplopia. I will try Costco. On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 11:04 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Starting about 25 years ago my near vision started to go. Slowly at first, > then more rapidly over about a 5 year period. Neighbor/friend is an > ophthalmologist and she kept close tabs on my vision. It was mainly due to > aging, as expected. > > I see her once a year, and for the past 3-4 years my prescription has > barely changed, mainly refinements to my distance vision. > > I’ve worn progressives from the start, and have learned that it’s > important to have “tall” lenses so that the transition isn’t too “quick,” > for lack of a better description. When “thin” styles were all the rage I > tried a set and quickly realized these would not work for me. > > That latest pair of glasses I ordered and returned to Zennie has > disappeared into a black hole. They said 14 days to “review” but I haven’t > heard a peep. > > -D > > > On Jun 15, 2024, at 7:55 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On 2024-06-15 22:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> Is “monovision” like when they do LASIK and one eye does close and the > other dies distance? > >> That always seemed weird to me. > > > > Yes. > > I believe it's intended for people who don't like to wear glasses > because they value vanity over seeing properly. Most people get used to it > over time. The guy I'm talking about invested in two pair of glasses with > high end Carl Zeiss lenses to undo the effects of monovision. But 20 years > later he does go without glasses some of the time. > > Back when it happened, there was a lot of "if you want to go with us, > hop in the damn car already" "wait a minute, I just realized I'm wearing my > computer glasses. I have to go back in the house and change". His first eye > was 20/15 post surgery. If they'd tried to do the same to the other eye he > would have been happy, even if it came out 20/30. > > > > Now back to me. My non dominate eye is easily correctable to 20/20, > almost good enough for the 20/15 line on the chart. Trying to do a > refractive exam on my dominate eye drives me nuts because it never really > gets sharp, except momentarily it almost gets good before going bad again. > It's not horrible, but I just closed my right eye while typing this and the > screen went fuzzy. All the sharpness is coming from my left eye. > > When I wake up in the morning my vision is blurry and then gradually > clears up. I finally figured it out just now, it clears up when my left eye > takes over. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
Starting about 25 years ago my near vision started to go. Slowly at first, then more rapidly over about a 5 year period. Neighbor/friend is an ophthalmologist and she kept close tabs on my vision. It was mainly due to aging, as expected. I see her once a year, and for the past 3-4 years my prescription has barely changed, mainly refinements to my distance vision. I’ve worn progressives from the start, and have learned that it’s important to have “tall” lenses so that the transition isn’t too “quick,” for lack of a better description. When “thin” styles were all the rage I tried a set and quickly realized these would not work for me. That latest pair of glasses I ordered and returned to Zennie has disappeared into a black hole. They said 14 days to “review” but I haven’t heard a peep. -D > On Jun 15, 2024, at 7:55 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2024-06-15 22:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Is “monovision” like when they do LASIK and one eye does close and the other >> dies distance? >> That always seemed weird to me. > > Yes. > I believe it's intended for people who don't like to wear glasses because > they value vanity over seeing properly. Most people get used to it over time. > The guy I'm talking about invested in two pair of glasses with high end Carl > Zeiss lenses to undo the effects of monovision. But 20 years later he does go > without glasses some of the time. > Back when it happened, there was a lot of "if you want to go with us, hop in > the damn car already" "wait a minute, I just realized I'm wearing my computer > glasses. I have to go back in the house and change". His first eye was 20/15 > post surgery. If they'd tried to do the same to the other eye he would have > been happy, even if it came out 20/30. > > Now back to me. My non dominate eye is easily correctable to 20/20, almost > good enough for the 20/15 line on the chart. Trying to do a refractive exam > on my dominate eye drives me nuts because it never really gets sharp, except > momentarily it almost gets good before going bad again. It's not horrible, > but I just closed my right eye while typing this and the screen went fuzzy. > All the sharpness is coming from my left eye. > When I wake up in the morning my vision is blurry and then gradually clears > up. I finally figured it out just now, it clears up when my left eye takes > over. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On 2024-06-15 22:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Is “monovision” like when they do LASIK and one eye does close and the other dies distance? That always seemed weird to me. Yes. I believe it's intended for people who don't like to wear glasses because they value vanity over seeing properly. Most people get used to it over time. The guy I'm talking about invested in two pair of glasses with high end Carl Zeiss lenses to undo the effects of monovision. But 20 years later he does go without glasses some of the time. Back when it happened, there was a lot of "if you want to go with us, hop in the damn car already" "wait a minute, I just realized I'm wearing my computer glasses. I have to go back in the house and change". His first eye was 20/15 post surgery. If they'd tried to do the same to the other eye he would have been happy, even if it came out 20/30. Now back to me. My non dominate eye is easily correctable to 20/20, almost good enough for the 20/15 line on the chart. Trying to do a refractive exam on my dominate eye drives me nuts because it never really gets sharp, except momentarily it almost gets good before going bad again. It's not horrible, but I just closed my right eye while typing this and the screen went fuzzy. All the sharpness is coming from my left eye. When I wake up in the morning my vision is blurry and then gradually clears up. I finally figured it out just now, it clears up when my left eye takes over. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 02:39:20 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > Is “monovision” like when they do LASIK and one eye does close and the > other dies distance? Yes, one eye does close, one eye does distance. > That always seemed weird to me. It seems weird to me, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
Is “monovision” like when they do LASIK and one eye does close and the other dies distance? That always seemed weird to me. -D > On Jun 15, 2024, at 7:33 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2024-06-15 21:43, OK DonN via Mercedes wrote: > >> In several situations I see better than she does now, but the Dr wants me to >> get the cataracts out - but then he's the surgeon as well. I think I'll find >> an ophthalmologist who doesn't do the surgery for a second opinion. > > I mentioned to my new optometrist that my ophthalmologist (retired five years > ago) did both my parents' cataracts. He was not keen on the idea, thinks that > a full time surgeon should do that work. Both my parents' operations were > successful without complications but I never considered asking his successor > if he did surgery. > > A friend of mine went to a somewhat famous surgeon who is the founding > partner in a huge practice, back when the founder did surgery full time. The > operations were a success, but the planned result was what the surgeon > thought the patient should want, not what the patient actually wanted. My new > optometrist said "I hate when they play God". (the issue was monovision, > which my friend didn't want and the surgeon thought everybody should have). > I'm in the "no monovision" camp. I want perfect binocular vision, and if I > have to wear reading glasses, so be it. It's better than wearing distance and > reading glasses because one eye doesn't do distance and one eye doesn't do > near. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On 2024-06-15 21:43, OK DonN via Mercedes wrote: In several situations I see better than she does now, but the Dr wants me to get the cataracts out - but then he's the surgeon as well. I think I'll find an ophthalmologist who doesn't do the surgery for a second opinion. I mentioned to my new optometrist that my ophthalmologist (retired five years ago) did both my parents' cataracts. He was not keen on the idea, thinks that a full time surgeon should do that work. Both my parents' operations were successful without complications but I never considered asking his successor if he did surgery. A friend of mine went to a somewhat famous surgeon who is the founding partner in a huge practice, back when the founder did surgery full time. The operations were a success, but the planned result was what the surgeon thought the patient should want, not what the patient actually wanted. My new optometrist said "I hate when they play God". (the issue was monovision, which my friend didn't want and the surgeon thought everybody should have). I'm in the "no monovision" camp. I want perfect binocular vision, and if I have to wear reading glasses, so be it. It's better than wearing distance and reading glasses because one eye doesn't do distance and one eye doesn't do near. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
My wife has had cataract surgery, isn't really happy with the result, but it's better than it was. Medicare A took care of 80% and our supplemental insurance covered that last 20%. The Dr declared it medically necessary, so no issue. There was a cocktail of eye drops they recommended that wasn't covered because we don't have part D, but it was ~ $70 - no problem. In several situations I see better than she does now, but the Dr wants me to get the cataracts out - but then he's the surgeon as well. I think I'll find an ophthalmologist who doesn't do the surgery for a second opinion. On Saturday, June 15th, 2024 at 6:12 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > Not quite true. > > Medicare Parts A & B cover the diagnosis and treatment of cataracts when it > has been deemed “medically necessary.” That’s the catch. In other words, > you’ve probably got to be close to legally blind before you qualify. > > I have droopy eyelids like my Mom did, and they’ve flat-out told me that they > won’t consider corrective surgery until they’re blocking my vision. > > -D > > > On Jun 15, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > If your insurance covers cataracts get it done. Medicare doesn’t, from what > > I’ve heard, so don’t wait until you retire. > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, at 15:52, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > Took my mom to the Costco in East Lansing MI Thursday. > > > We used the optometrist who rents an office inside Costco, who turned > > > out to be great. > > > $79 for full exam. He listened to her complaints of double vision when > > > fatigued, and spent a lot of time dialing in prism correction to > > > eliminate it. > > > > > > Now on to the optical department. Found a Japanese titanium frame that > > > fit her and was very lightweight. $60. She had polycarb trifocals and > > > wanted to stick with that. OK, lenses, $110, all coatings included in > > > the base price. For reference, the frame was nicer than she currently > > > wears, the lenses identical, and she paid $252 (plus $256 from her > > > insurance coverage) in 2019. OK, we're half done. Found a slightly > > > larger frame, also titanium, also $60, but made in China like everything > > > else. Bifocal polarized gray sunglasses, also polycarb, $108. Discount > > > for buying multiple sets of glasses for the same patient in the same > > > order: $50. Total $118 for sunglasses, plus $170 for the first pair, is > > > $288 for glasses. > > > > > > Now about me: I saw the same optometrist today for a 2nd opinion on my > > > Rx and to fix my computer glasses Rx that my MD wrote for 16 away when I > > > need 20-24". He wrote my Rx, but referred me to a surgeon and > > > recommended I don't buy glasses yet. When I went to my MD two months > > > ago, I fully expected we'd be setting up a referral for cataract > > > removal, but he didn't think it was time yet. The DO agrees that I'm > > > having trouble seeing, and thinks everything in my eyes is OK except for > > > the cataracts. Therefore he thinks the reason my dominate right eye is > > > blurred is cataracts. > > > > > > Everybody I know says they wished they'd had their cataracts removed > > > years earlier than they did. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
Not quite true. Medicare Parts A & B cover the diagnosis and treatment of cataracts when it has been deemed “medically necessary.” That’s the catch. In other words, you’ve probably got to be close to legally blind before you qualify. I have droopy eyelids like my Mom did, and they’ve flat-out told me that they won’t consider corrective surgery until they’re blocking my vision. -D > On Jun 15, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > If your insurance covers cataracts get it done. Medicare doesn’t, from what > I’ve heard, so don’t wait until you retire. > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, at 15:52, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: >> Took my mom to the Costco in East Lansing MI Thursday. >> We used the optometrist who rents an office inside Costco, who turned >> out to be great. >> $79 for full exam. He listened to her complaints of double vision when >> fatigued, and spent a lot of time dialing in prism correction to >> eliminate it. >> >> Now on to the optical department. Found a Japanese titanium frame that >> fit her and was very lightweight. $60. She had polycarb trifocals and >> wanted to stick with that. OK, lenses, $110, all coatings included in >> the base price. For reference, the frame was nicer than she currently >> wears, the lenses identical, and she paid $252 (plus $256 from her >> insurance coverage) in 2019. OK, we're half done. Found a slightly >> larger frame, also titanium, also $60, but made in China like everything >> else. Bifocal polarized gray sunglasses, also polycarb, $108. Discount >> for buying multiple sets of glasses for the same patient in the same >> order: $50. Total $118 for sunglasses, plus $170 for the first pair, is >> $288 for glasses. >> >> Now about me: I saw the same optometrist today for a 2nd opinion on my >> Rx and to fix my computer glasses Rx that my MD wrote for 16 away when I >> need 20-24". He wrote my Rx, but referred me to a surgeon and >> recommended I don't buy glasses yet. When I went to my MD two months >> ago, I fully expected we'd be setting up a referral for cataract >> removal, but he didn't think it was time yet. The DO agrees that I'm >> having trouble seeing, and thinks everything in my eyes is OK except for >> the cataracts. Therefore he thinks the reason my dominate right eye is >> blurred is cataracts. >> >> Everybody I know says they wished they'd had their cataracts removed >> years earlier than they did. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
If your insurance covers cataracts get it done. Medicare doesn’t, from what I’ve heard, so don’t wait until you retire. On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, at 15:52, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > Took my mom to the Costco in East Lansing MI Thursday. > We used the optometrist who rents an office inside Costco, who turned > out to be great. > $79 for full exam. He listened to her complaints of double vision when > fatigued, and spent a lot of time dialing in prism correction to > eliminate it. > > Now on to the optical department. Found a Japanese titanium frame that > fit her and was very lightweight. $60. She had polycarb trifocals and > wanted to stick with that. OK, lenses, $110, all coatings included in > the base price. For reference, the frame was nicer than she currently > wears, the lenses identical, and she paid $252 (plus $256 from her > insurance coverage) in 2019. OK, we're half done. Found a slightly > larger frame, also titanium, also $60, but made in China like everything > else. Bifocal polarized gray sunglasses, also polycarb, $108. Discount > for buying multiple sets of glasses for the same patient in the same > order: $50. Total $118 for sunglasses, plus $170 for the first pair, is > $288 for glasses. > > Now about me: I saw the same optometrist today for a 2nd opinion on my > Rx and to fix my computer glasses Rx that my MD wrote for 16 away when I > need 20-24". He wrote my Rx, but referred me to a surgeon and > recommended I don't buy glasses yet. When I went to my MD two months > ago, I fully expected we'd be setting up a referral for cataract > removal, but he didn't think it was time yet. The DO agrees that I'm > having trouble seeing, and thinks everything in my eyes is OK except for > the cataracts. Therefore he thinks the reason my dominate right eye is > blurred is cataracts. > > Everybody I know says they wished they'd had their cataracts removed > years earlier than they did. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 15:52:24 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > Everybody I know says they wished they'd had their cataracts removed > years earlier than they did. Shirley had cataract surgery on both eyes. Her experience was no doubt complicated by her long-term Type 1 diabetes and by an irritated and uncooperative retinologist for her second eye. After the cataract surgery, the back sides of her lens capsules clouded and caused her to be unable to see well. She ended up having laser surgery where they made X cuts in the back sides of the lens capsules, which caused the points of the cut portions to curl back out of the way so she could see again. All that considered, the cataract surgery was helpful for her. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Optometry and glasses (Costco content)
Took my mom to the Costco in East Lansing MI Thursday. We used the optometrist who rents an office inside Costco, who turned out to be great. $79 for full exam. He listened to her complaints of double vision when fatigued, and spent a lot of time dialing in prism correction to eliminate it. Now on to the optical department. Found a Japanese titanium frame that fit her and was very lightweight. $60. She had polycarb trifocals and wanted to stick with that. OK, lenses, $110, all coatings included in the base price. For reference, the frame was nicer than she currently wears, the lenses identical, and she paid $252 (plus $256 from her insurance coverage) in 2019. OK, we're half done. Found a slightly larger frame, also titanium, also $60, but made in China like everything else. Bifocal polarized gray sunglasses, also polycarb, $108. Discount for buying multiple sets of glasses for the same patient in the same order: $50. Total $118 for sunglasses, plus $170 for the first pair, is $288 for glasses. Now about me: I saw the same optometrist today for a 2nd opinion on my Rx and to fix my computer glasses Rx that my MD wrote for 16 away when I need 20-24". He wrote my Rx, but referred me to a surgeon and recommended I don't buy glasses yet. When I went to my MD two months ago, I fully expected we'd be setting up a referral for cataract removal, but he didn't think it was time yet. The DO agrees that I'm having trouble seeing, and thinks everything in my eyes is OK except for the cataracts. Therefore he thinks the reason my dominate right eye is blurred is cataracts. Everybody I know says they wished they'd had their cataracts removed years earlier than they did. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
