Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Holy crap they're even made in the USA!

Onto my Christmas list. I'm on economy measures, trying to save up some cash. A 
portion of our roof has to be replaced, which in itself is no big deal but if 
the contractor comes up with a good enough deal I'll have him do the whole 
thing...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 23:47:14 -0500
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Curt
Williams - Sonoma has these on sale
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/usa-pan-goldtouch-nonstick-loaf-pan/?bnrid=3102206cm_ven=E3cm_cat=EDMcm_pla=0909_BrevilleOven_HEcm_ite=bnr_1Ballcm_em=rawil...@gmail.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-09 Thread Mountain Man
drfaty wrote:
 i do admire...

We have a bucket of Bob's Red Mill gluten with about 20 pounds
remaining - for the shipping, or for barter.  Anyone?  Tell me more
about the pans, Peter - please.  Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-09 Thread Russ Williams

Curt
Williams - Sonoma has these on sale
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/usa-pan-goldtouch-nonstick-loaf-pan/?bnrid=3102206cm_ven=E3cm_cat=EDMcm_pla=0909_BrevilleOven_HEcm_ite=bnr_1Ballcm_em=rawil...@gmail.com


On 9/8/2013 10:56, Curt Raymond wrote:

Hand kneading is too much like real work.

King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to the 
factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a common 
thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up some of the 
special bread flour thats only available at the factory.

The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best I've 
ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely use 
anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above.

I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable 
but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

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We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my

grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).
Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly
quickly else it molds.

Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found
around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.

My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the
yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for
half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right
consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.
You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that
KitchenAid is great.

If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non-
wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if
they have more time to absorb water before kneading.

Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a
bit, then bake.

Best thing going, homemade bread!

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
You're not getting good enough bread. I make my own the intensely lazy way 
http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/easy-no-knead-dutch-oven-crusty-bread.aspx
With high quality unbleached flour http://www.heckersceresota.com/
and the results are fantastic. I mostly cook in the dutch oven as detailed 
above but occasionally I'll do it in a loaf pan. I need to get a smaller loaf 
pan, the one I have produces some weird loaves because its so big.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 19:00:49 -0400
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i've become more anti wheat than anti gluten.  i find whole rye a good sub
for whole wheat


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is
 just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's
 less than in all white flour waffles.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Peter Frederick
We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my  
grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).   
Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly  
quickly else it molds.


Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found  
around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.


My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the  
yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for  
half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right  
consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.   
You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that  
KitchenAid is great.


If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- 
wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if  
they have more time to absorb water before kneading.


Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a  
bit, then bake.


Best thing going, homemade bread!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Hand kneading is too much like real work.

King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to the 
factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a common 
thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up some of the 
special bread flour thats only available at the factory.

The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best I've 
ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely use 
anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above.

I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable 
but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
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We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my  
grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).  
Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly  
quickly else it molds.

Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found  
around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.

My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the  
yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for  
half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right  
consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.  
You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that  
KitchenAid is great.

If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- 
wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if  
they have more time to absorb water before kneading.

Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a  
bit, then bake.

Best thing going, homemade bread!

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Peter Frederick

My pans are roughly 8x4x3 hxwxd.  Makes a perfect sized loaf.

Good luck finding something that size, though.  I've got some nice  
tinned steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago  
that are just too big and don't have straight enough side.  Don't know  
what to do with them, too nice to toss out but I never use them.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread OK Don
We use all whole grain flours from Bob's Red Mill. You can find some of it
the stores, but we've taken to ordering it from them - it arrives at the
front door, no muss, no fuss.
By adding gluten flour, you can use any other combination and still get a
nice textured loaf. My wife has also stopped using the bread pans
altogether - just forms long rounded loafs and bakes them on a pizza stone.
Works great.
I think the current version uses spelt and buckwheat flours primarily, with
some of the gluten flour. Yes, the Kitchen Aid is great for kneading it -
been using it for 30+ years now.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hand kneading is too much like real work.

 King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to
 the factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a
 common thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up
 some of the special bread flour thats only available at the factory.

 The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best
 I've ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely
 use anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above.

 I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is
 acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is
 too big...

 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500
 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
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 We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my
 grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).
 Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly
 quickly else it molds.

 Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found
 around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.

 My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the
 yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for
 half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right
 consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.
 You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that
 KitchenAid is great.

 If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non-
 wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if
 they have more time to absorb water before kneading.

 Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a
 bit, then bake.

 Best thing going, homemade bread!

 Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I got some non-stick glass loaf pans from Walmart (I think they are 
Corning or something like that) that work great as the loaves pop out 
easily.  THey have a red coating on them.


--R


On 9/8/13 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable 
but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big...



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Try adding some quinoa to the mix. We got some bread that has it from Whole 
Foods, it gives a neat nutty flavor. Also adds a complete protein to the bread 
making it much more nutritious.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:50:43 -0500
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
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We use all whole grain flours from Bob's Red Mill. You can find some of it
the stores, but we've taken to ordering it from them - it arrives at the
front door, no muss, no fuss.
By adding gluten flour, you can use any other combination and still get a
nice textured loaf. My wife has also stopped using the bread pans
altogether - just forms long rounded loafs and bakes them on a pizza stone.
Works great.
I think the current version uses spelt and buckwheat flours primarily, with
some of the gluten flour. Yes, the Kitchen Aid is great for kneading it -
been using it for 30+ years now.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Complete with toxins from China?

I'm looking for something not-coated and made in the USA, I'll coat with butter 
my own self.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 14:00:27 -0400
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I got some non-stick glass loaf pans from Walmart (I think they are 
Corning or something like that) that work great as the loaves pop out 
easily.  THey have a red coating on them.

--R


On 9/8/13 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is 
 acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too 
 big...
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Mountain Man
Peter wrote:
 I've got some nice tinned
 steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just
 too big and don't have straight enough side.  Don't know what to do with
 them, too nice to toss out but I never use them.

Maybe sell them to someone here that makes bread?  What size are they?
 What price do you need?  Do you drink Assam tea? as barter?

All this talk of flour.  Doesn't anyone grind their own flour?  We
grind our flour and make bread by hand knead.  We make a very tasty
sourdough Polish bread that is full of different seeds and tasty.
Also, we used to add gluten to bread to make a better loaf but have
quit using gluten entirely.  I forget what got us away from gluten.
We usually make rye with molasses and then also the Polish sourdough.
Bread is too nice to not make at home, fresh ground.  My first grinder
I would spend 2 hours grinding by hand for a batch of bread.  Then I
bought some sheaves and belts at grainger, added a washing machine
motor and let electricity do the work.  A friend had a nice wood cased
electric grinder that was attractive, but when I called Retsel in
McCammon, ID, the guy convinced me that ugly but fully cleanable was
best, so we use the Retsel - not cheap, but very durable stone
grinder.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Gary Hurst
i do admire many elements of your lifestyle, gordon


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter wrote:
  I've got some nice tinned
  steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just
  too big and don't have straight enough side.  Don't know what to do with
  them, too nice to toss out but I never use them.

 Maybe sell them to someone here that makes bread?  What size are they?
  What price do you need?  Do you drink Assam tea? as barter?

 All this talk of flour.  Doesn't anyone grind their own flour?  We
 grind our flour and make bread by hand knead.  We make a very tasty
 sourdough Polish bread that is full of different seeds and tasty.
 Also, we used to add gluten to bread to make a better loaf but have
 quit using gluten entirely.  I forget what got us away from gluten.
 We usually make rye with molasses and then also the Polish sourdough.
 Bread is too nice to not make at home, fresh ground.  My first grinder
 I would spend 2 hours grinding by hand for a batch of bread.  Then I
 bought some sheaves and belts at grainger, added a washing machine
 motor and let electricity do the work.  A friend had a nice wood cased
 electric grinder that was attractive, but when I called Retsel in
 McCammon, ID, the guy convinced me that ugly but fully cleanable was
 best, so we use the Retsel - not cheap, but very durable stone
 grinder.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-07 Thread Jim Cathey

where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast Tea  ?


To the best of my knowledge you have conflated two
different blends, I've never seen those two together
like that.

I generally prefer Bigelow's packaged teas.  The foil
packs keep 'em fresher longer.

Stores long ago stopped carrying their oolong, instead
devoting the shelf space to vanilla fudge coconut green
tea swirl, and other such traditional favorite teas.  I
mail-order it by the case now.  Of the non-specialist
sources I like their oolong by far the best.

(I was treated to an oolong tasting session 30 years ago
in a high-end tea shop in Taipei by a rather attractive girl
I was working with.  I guess it stuck with me for some reason!)

My daily drink, though, is Lipton, steeped to death.
Very different.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
That chink dogfood killed my dog some years ago.  I don't buy much 
(people) stuff in a can or that is processed, and look carefully to see 
where it might be from.


Most apple juice and honey is from China now, and pickles from India.  I 
mostly get local stuff now and some stuff that says where it is from.




Wait until our packaged chicken comes from there, and soon.
First, it has to be USA chicken, killed, frozen, shipped to China, thawed, 
processed (and maybe dog food poison added) froze again and shipped back here.

Once we get used to that, they can start using Chinese grown chicken.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/31/business/chinese-chicken-processors-are-cleared-to-ship-to-us.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-07 Thread G Mann
On that same note.. just read an article that due to pollution, infertility
among Chinese women has gone from 2% to 17+%.  Seems the air and water is
off the EPA charts by more than 300 points above the maximum limit to
support human life in most major China cities.

Further, the link between mercury in fish harvested in Pacific has now been
found to be from toxic drift of coal fired Chinese power plants. Earths
rotation causes wind and weather to travel west to east carrying emissions
out to Pacific... they deposit there and are then taken up the food chain
to become stored in the fatty tissue of fish.. who are harvested by fishing
fleets and eaten in fine restaurants in Boston.. for example...  or
elsewhere into our food chain... Lovely..

Glad our EPA is all over us like white on rice.. I feel so safe now...

Grant...
Beam me up Scotty


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Froma Haroup was writing in her column that the rich orientals are fleeing
 the continent and setting up shop in high end apartments in Boston.  Just
 so they can breath.

 clay

 On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

  There was a story on NPR about Chinese folks buying baby formula from
 outside the country because they don't trust anything locally...
 
  Apparently the import is illegal but not strictly enforced.
 
  -Curt
 
  Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:45:43 -0400
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea
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  the chinese are famous for cheating every spec.  it hasn't stopped them
  from ruling hte world, so it's probably a good plan
 
  so if the spec calls for a dog food to be 20% protein, they'll use 10%
  protein and spike it with coal dust as that will make it read over 20%.
  kill your dog?  kill your baby?  they have discovered that americans
 don't
  care about any of that as long as it is a nickel cheaper
 
  this outrage is all consumer driven.  we got what we asked for
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
longer.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 My current waffle/pancake batter includes spelt, kamut, oatmeal, flax seed
 meal, buckwheat and/or rye, a bunch of eggs, a bunch of chopped walnuts,
 and no-fat yogurt diuted 2/3rds with water. Oh yes, a bit of salt, baking
 powder and baking soda. My wife approves :-)
 I'll have to add some fine corn meal - try that out.

 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

  Throw in some fine corn meal with that pancake batter (and waffle batter
  too) -- muy sabrosa!
 
  --R
 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread OK Don
Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my father's
and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk anymore
(weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for cooking/baking.
Works great.

We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit of
sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff from
blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)


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 Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
 longer.





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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Are you following a gluten free diet?  if so, tack on an additional 10
years to the longevity estimate.


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my father's
 and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
 Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk anymore
 (weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for cooking/baking.
 Works great.

 We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit of
 sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff from
 blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)


 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
  longer.
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread OK Don
NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is
just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's
less than in all white flour waffles.


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Are you following a gluten free diet?  if so, tack on an additional 10
 years to the longevity estimate.


 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my
 father's
  and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
  Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk anymore
  (weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for cooking/baking.
  Works great.
 
  We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit of
  sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff from
  blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
   longer.
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i've become more anti wheat than anti gluten.  i find whole rye a good sub
for whole wheat


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is
 just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's
 less than in all white flour waffles.


 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Are you following a gluten free diet?  if so, tack on an additional 10
  years to the longevity estimate.
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my
  father's
   and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
   Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk
 anymore
   (weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for
 cooking/baking.
   Works great.
  
   We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit
 of
   sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff
 from
   blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)
  
  
   On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
longer.
   
   
  
  
  
   --
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread OK Don
I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
proportions, and you've got it.

I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black tea
to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered tea
in bags from the mass markets.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers here,
 so someone may know.

 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

 Grant.




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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Lipton is the way to go

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2013, at 11:31 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.
 
 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
 proportions, and you've got it.
 
 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.
 
 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered tea
 in bags from the mass markets.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers here,
 so someone may know.
 
 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
 Grant.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Gerry Archer


From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com

On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers here,
so someone may know.
Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not 
the

same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
Grant..


Local health food store used to have it.  Also, here's a link:

http://troisgtea.com/teaproducts_flavoredtea.html

Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Rich Thomas

What is your source of tea when you order it?

I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG 
or something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't 
remember where I got it.


--R


On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
proportions, and you've got it.

I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black tea
to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered tea
in bags from the mass markets.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:


On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers here,
so someone may know.

Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not the
same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Randy Bennell

Stu, Hank et al


On 06/09/2013 4:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations to be
pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into these
really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for those
of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is the
other list:?


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and
selling tea directly from India.
You might wish to check him out.

Randy



On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
such
as H-mart


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

  What is your source of tea when you order it?

I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG
or
something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
where I got it.

--R



On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

  I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast

blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
proportions, and you've got it.

I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
tea
to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered
tea
in bags from the mass markets.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

   On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers


here,
so someone may know.

Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it
was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not
the
same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Gary Hurst
do you know that this list exists because stu's assistant threw me off his
list like 15 years ago?


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Stu, Hank et al



 On 06/09/2013 4:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations to
 be
 pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into these
 really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for those
 of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is the
 other list:?


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:

  There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and
 selling tea directly from India.
 You might wish to check him out.

 Randy



 On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
 such
 as H-mart


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructi**vity.net http://constructivity.net
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 

 wrote:

   What is your source of tea when you order it?

 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG
 or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't
 remember
 where I got it.

 --R



 On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

   I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish
 breakfast

 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine
 the
 proportions, and you've got it.

 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas
 better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced
 tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
 tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than
 powered
 tea
 in bags from the mass markets.


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea
 drinkers

  here,
 so someone may know.

 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
 Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it
 was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are
 not
 the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Dan Penoff
Sujit?

Dan

On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and 
 selling tea directly from India.
 You might wish to check him out.
 
 Randy
 
 
 On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets such
 as H-mart
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 What is your source of tea when you order it?
 
 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
 where I got it.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
 
 I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.
 
 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
 proportions, and you've got it.
 
 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.
 
 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered
 tea
 in bags from the mass markets.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers
 here,
 so someone may know.
 
 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
 Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not
 the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
 Grant.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Gary Hurst
did you just sneeze?


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Sujit?

 Dan

 On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

  There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing
 and selling tea directly from India.
  You might wish to check him out.
 
  Randy
 
 
  On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
  the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
 such
  as H-mart
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
  richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
  What is your source of tea when you order it?
 
  I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green
 EG or
  something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't
 remember
  where I got it.
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
 
  I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
  blend could not be flavored with bergamot.
 
  I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
  best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine
 the
  proportions, and you've got it.
 
  I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas
 better
  blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced
 tea
  now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
 tea
  to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.
 
  I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than
 powered
  tea
  in bags from the mass markets.
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers
  here,
  so someone may know.
 
  Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
  Breakfast
  Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and
 it was
  my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are
 not
  the
  same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
  Grant.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Dan Penoff
The crispy pancake list.

Dan 

On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Stu, Hank et al
 
 
 On 06/09/2013 4:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations to be
 pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into these
 really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for those
 of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is the
 other list:?
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and
 selling tea directly from India.
 You might wish to check him out.
 
 Randy
 
 
 
 On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
 such
 as H-mart
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:
 
  What is your source of tea when you order it?
 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG
 or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
 where I got it.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
 
  I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.
 
 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
 proportions, and you've got it.
 
 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
 tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.
 
 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered
 tea
 in bags from the mass markets.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers
 
 here,
 so someone may know.
 
 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
 Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it
 was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not
 the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Dan Penoff
You were a founding member like me.  Only at the time I was banned from the 
MBCA and not from the Hilter list (yet).

Dan who still has numerous alter egos that enjoy crispy pancakes

On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 do you know that this list exists because stu's assistant threw me off his
 list like 15 years ago?
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 Stu, Hank et al
 
 
 
 On 06/09/2013 4:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations to
 be
 pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into these
 really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for those
 of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is the
 other list:?
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:
 
 There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and
 selling tea directly from India.
 You might wish to check him out.
 
 Randy
 
 
 
 On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
 such
 as H-mart
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructi**vity.net http://constructivity.net
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 
 
 wrote:
 
  What is your source of tea when you order it?
 
 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG
 or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't
 remember
 where I got it.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
 
  I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish
 breakfast
 
 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.
 
 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine
 the
 proportions, and you've got it.
 
 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas
 better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced
 tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
 tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.
 
 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than
 powered
 tea
 in bags from the mass markets.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea
 drinkers
 
 here,
 so someone may know.
 
 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
 Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it
 was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are
 not
 the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
 Grant.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread OK Don
I buy from www.enjoyingtea.com, www.adagio.com, www.coffeeam.com, and
www.sfherb.com, and others that I've forgotten.
I had some Earl Greyer tea once - double the bergamot - that was good.

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 What is your source of tea when you order it?

 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
 where I got it.

 --R






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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Russ Williams

This what you looking of Rich?
http://www.redstickspice.com/collections/teas-2/products/earl-grey-green

On 9/6/2013 15:30, Rich Thomas wrote:

What is your source of tea when you order it?

I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green 
EG or something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't 
remember where I got it.


--R


On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
proportions, and you've got it.

I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black 
tea

to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than 
powered tea

in bags from the mass markets.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers 
here,

so someone may know.

Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish 
Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and 
it was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are 
not the

same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

Grant.







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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Curt Raymond
There was a story on NPR about Chinese folks buying baby formula from outside 
the country because they don't trust anything locally...

Apparently the import is illegal but not strictly enforced.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:45:43 -0400
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

the chinese are famous for cheating every spec.  it hasn't stopped them
from ruling hte world, so it's probably a good plan

so if the spec calls for a dog food to be 20% protein, they'll use 10%
protein and spike it with coal dust as that will make it read over 20%.
kill your dog?  kill your baby?  they have discovered that americans don't
care about any of that as long as it is a nickel cheaper

this outrage is all consumer driven.  we got what we asked for
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Randy Bennell

On 06/09/2013 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The crispy pancake list.

Dan



My father would never have fit in - he made gooey pancakes.

A foot in diameter and 3/4 of an inch thick - burnt on the outside and 
gooey in the middle.


Wierd as he was a reasonably good cook - just not with pancakes.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread G Mann
On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers here,
so someone may know.

Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not the
same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

Grant..


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 There was a story on NPR about Chinese folks buying baby formula from
 outside the country because they don't trust anything locally...

 Apparently the import is illegal but not strictly enforced.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:45:43 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea
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 CACioK3s6YV0_67RBwHCjYqJcrJr1ffmmjeWXXzrTrKadX=r...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 the chinese are famous for cheating every spec.  it hasn't stopped them
 from ruling hte world, so it's probably a good plan

 so if the spec calls for a dog food to be 20% protein, they'll use 10%
 protein and spike it with coal dust as that will make it read over 20%.
 kill your dog?  kill your baby?  they have discovered that americans don't
 care about any of that as long as it is a nickel cheaper

 this outrage is all consumer driven.  we got what we asked for
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Gary Hurst
dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations to be
pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into these
really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for those
of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is the
other list:?


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and
 selling tea directly from India.
 You might wish to check him out.

 Randy



 On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
 such
 as H-mart


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

  What is your source of tea when you order it?

 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG
 or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
 where I got it.

 --R



 On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

  I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
 proportions, and you've got it.

 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
 tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered
 tea
 in bags from the mass markets.


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

   On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers

 here,
 so someone may know.

 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
 Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it
 was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not
 the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

 Grant.








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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Randy Bennell
There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing 
and selling tea directly from India.

You might wish to check him out.

Randy


On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets such
as H-mart


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


What is your source of tea when you order it?

I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG or
something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
where I got it.

--R



On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:


I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
proportions, and you've got it.

I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black tea
to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered
tea
in bags from the mass markets.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers

here,
so someone may know.

Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not
the
same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

Grant.











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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread dseretakis
My father used to make his own pancake mix which included yeast. Those things 
were pretty puffed up and tasty.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 06/09/2013 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 The crispy pancake list.
 
 Dan
 My father would never have fit in - he made gooey pancakes.
 
 A foot in diameter and 3/4 of an inch thick - burnt on the outside and gooey 
 in the middle.
 
 Wierd as he was a reasonably good cook - just not with pancakes.
 
 Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Randy Bennell

On 06/09/2013 4:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Dan who still has numerous alter egos that enjoy crispy pancakes



Not a surprise.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Throw in some fine corn meal with that pancake batter (and waffle batter 
too) -- muy sabrosa!


--R




On 9/6/13 6:17 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

My father used to make his own pancake mix which included yeast. Those things 
were pretty puffed up and tasty.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


On 06/09/2013 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The crispy pancake list.

Dan

My father would never have fit in - he made gooey pancakes.

A foot in diameter and 3/4 of an inch thick - burnt on the outside and gooey in 
the middle.

Wierd as he was a reasonably good cook - just not with pancakes.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Randy Bennell

Yes

He appears to be trying to unload his old MBs now too.

Randy

On 06/09/2013 4:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Sujit?

Dan

On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and 
selling tea directly from India.
You might wish to check him out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Gary Hurst
actually, THE founding member.  but it wasn't my idea.  neither was bimby.
both were dickarde's idea.  his ideas got less good after that  :(


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 You were a founding member like me.  Only at the time I was banned from
 the MBCA and not from the Hilter list (yet).

 Dan who still has numerous alter egos that enjoy crispy pancakes

 On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  do you know that this list exists because stu's assistant threw me off
 his
  list like 15 years ago?
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:
 
  Stu, Hank et al
 
 
 
  On 06/09/2013 4:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
  dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations
 to
  be
  pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into
 these
  really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for
 those
  of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is
 the
  other list:?
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
  wrote:
 
  There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing
 and
  selling tea directly from India.
  You might wish to check him out.
 
  Randy
 
 
 
  On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
  the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets
  such
  as H-mart
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
  richthomas79TD300@**constructi**vity.net http://constructivity.net
 
  richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.net
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 
 
  wrote:
 
   What is your source of tea when you order it?
 
  I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was
 green EG
  or
  something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't
  remember
  where I got it.
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
 
   I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish
  breakfast
 
  blend could not be flavored with bergamot.
 
  I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like
 the
  best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup,
 Refine
  the
  proportions, and you've got it.
 
  I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas
  better
  blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced
  tea
  now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored
 black
  tea
  to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.
 
  I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than
  powered
  tea
  in bags from the mass markets.
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea
  drinkers
 
  here,
  so someone may know.
 
  Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
  Breakfast
  Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago
 and it
  was
  my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just
 are
  not
  the
  same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Ask captain Picard.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers here,
 so someone may know.
 
 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.
 
 Grant..
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 There was a story on NPR about Chinese folks buying baby formula from
 outside the country because they don't trust anything locally...
 
 Apparently the import is illegal but not strictly enforced.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:45:43 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea
 Message-ID:
CACioK3s6YV0_67RBwHCjYqJcrJr1ffmmjeWXXzrTrKadX=r...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 the chinese are famous for cheating every spec.  it hasn't stopped them
 from ruling hte world, so it's probably a good plan
 
 so if the spec calls for a dog food to be 20% protein, they'll use 10%
 protein and spike it with coal dust as that will make it read over 20%.
 kill your dog?  kill your baby?  they have discovered that americans don't
 care about any of that as long as it is a nickel cheaper
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Randy Bennell

I have heard the stories.

Randy


On 06/09/2013 4:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

do you know that this list exists because stu's assistant threw me off his
list like 15 years ago?


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


Stu, Hank et al



On 06/09/2013 4:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


dickarde was a BIG fan of indian teas but i found his recommendations to
be
pretty harsh.  it could have just been that he was putting me into these
really strong assam's but i haven't looked at indian tea since.  for those
of us who have been extendedly pretty much out of the loop, which is the
other list:?


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
wrote:

  There is an Indian fellow on the other list that has been importing and

selling tea directly from India.
You might wish to check him out.

Randy



On 06/09/2013 4:02 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets

such
as H-mart


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79TD300@**constructi**vity.net http://constructivity.net
richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

   What is your source of tea when you order it?


I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG
or
something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't
remember
where I got it.

--R



On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

   I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish
breakfast


blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine
the
proportions, and you've got it.

I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas
better
blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced
tea
now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black
tea
to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than
powered
tea
in bags from the mass markets.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea
drinkers

  here,

so someone may know.

Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
Breakfast
Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it
was
my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are
not
the
same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

Grant.




  



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread Gary Hurst
the best places i've ever seen to buy tea are large asian supermarkets such
as H-mart


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 What is your source of tea when you order it?

 I too recall having some other kind of Earl Grey, maybe it was green EG or
 something, and it was good, but I never found it again and can't remember
 where I got it.

 --R



 On 9/6/13 12:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

 I've never heard of it, but I don't see any reason why Irish breakfast
 blend could not be flavored with bergamot.

 I'd try blending your own, find the Irish breakfast blend you like the
 best, and some Earl Grey, and use some of both to make a cup, Refine the
 proportions, and you've got it.

 I like my hot tea straight, not blended, but I like the iced teas better
 blended. I'm drinking a 50/50 mixture of Darjeeling and Keemun iced tea
 now. Love it. I also mix hibiscus with a cinnamon plum flavored black tea
 to drink iced. Very refreshing in the heat.

 I buy all my tea on-line. Loose tea in bulk is much better than powered
 tea
 in bags from the mass markets.


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  On the issue of tea.. apparently there are some devoted tea drinkers
 here,
 so someone may know.

 Is there anywhere on the planet where I can buy Earl Gray Irish
 Breakfast
 Tea  ?  Last time I saw it sold was perhaps 2 decades ago and it was
 my absolute favorite.  The other Twinnings irish breakfast just are not
 the
 same as well as others calling themselves irish breakfast teas.

 Grant.





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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-06 Thread OK Don
My current waffle/pancake batter includes spelt, kamut, oatmeal, flax seed
meal, buckwheat and/or rye, a bunch of eggs, a bunch of chopped walnuts,
and no-fat yogurt diuted 2/3rds with water. Oh yes, a bit of salt, baking
powder and baking soda. My wife approves :-)
I'll have to add some fine corn meal - try that out.

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Throw in some fine corn meal with that pancake batter (and waffle batter
 too) -- muy sabrosa!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-06 Thread clay
Froma Haroup was writing in her column that the rich orientals are fleeing the 
continent and setting up shop in high end apartments in Boston.  Just so they 
can breath.

clay

On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 There was a story on NPR about Chinese folks buying baby formula from outside 
 the country because they don't trust anything locally...
 
 Apparently the import is illegal but not strictly enforced.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:45:43 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea
 Message-ID:
 CACioK3s6YV0_67RBwHCjYqJcrJr1ffmmjeWXXzrTrKadX=r...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 the chinese are famous for cheating every spec.  it hasn't stopped them
 from ruling hte world, so it's probably a good plan
 
 so if the spec calls for a dog food to be 20% protein, they'll use 10%
 protein and spike it with coal dust as that will make it read over 20%.
 kill your dog?  kill your baby?  they have discovered that americans don't
 care about any of that as long as it is a nickel cheaper
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread OK Don
Damn, Now I've ordered yet MORE tea - got to try the USA stuff, didn't know
it existed!


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Y'all should get some fine tea from America's Tea Plantation which is the
 only one in North America and is about a mile from where I sit.  Maybe 2.
  Charleston Tea Plantation.  Fun to visit too.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)





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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 2, 2013 7:05 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 yunnan is particularly known for
 puerh, which is actually a green tea that
 is fermented dark. i drink some every
 day.   quite good for the digestion


So if you can't trust the quality of Chinese car parts, why do you trust
that Chinese tea doesn't contain anything harmful (pesticides banned in the
US, for instance, let alone inedible fillers as with the recent
melamine-in-dog-food scandal)?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread OK Don
Yup - now they're talking about salmonella in dried spices from China and
India. Don't make sun tea - use boiling water.
 FYI - I find puerh tea to be disgusting - to each his own.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 So if you can't trust the quality of Chinese car parts, why do you trust
 that Chinese tea doesn't contain anything harmful (pesticides banned in the
 US, for instance, let alone inedible fillers as with the recent
 melamine-in-dog-food scandal)?

 Alex




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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread Jim Cathey
So if you can't trust the quality of Chinese car parts, why do you 
trust

that Chinese tea doesn't contain anything harmful


They _drink_ tea.  A lot.  I'd distrust the purely-for-export
products a lot more.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread Gary Hurst
this is actually a good question.  it'sa  faith that they hold tea sacred,
but maybe they hold nothing sacred

puerh is my only china sourced tea as i dont' know of it beign made
anywhere else


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sep 2, 2013 7:05 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  yunnan is particularly known for
  puerh, which is actually a green tea that
  is fermented dark. i drink some every
  day.   quite good for the digestion
 

 So if you can't trust the quality of Chinese car parts, why do you trust
 that Chinese tea doesn't contain anything harmful (pesticides banned in the
 US, for instance, let alone inedible fillers as with the recent
 melamine-in-dog-food scandal)?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas
That chink dogfood killed my dog some years ago.  I don't buy much 
(people) stuff in a can or that is processed, and look carefully to see 
where it might be from.


Most apple juice and honey is from China now, and pickles from India.  I 
mostly get local stuff now and some stuff that says where it is from.


The tea I had today was grown and picked right close by.

--R


On 9/5/13 10:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

So if you can't trust the quality of Chinese car parts, why do you trust
that Chinese tea doesn't contain anything harmful


They _drink_ tea.  A lot.  I'd distrust the purely-for-export
products a lot more.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-05 Thread Gary Hurst
the chinese are famous for cheating every spec.  it hasn't stopped them
from ruling hte world, so it's probably a good plan

so if the spec calls for a dog food to be 20% protein, they'll use 10%
protein and spike it with coal dust as that will make it read over 20%.
kill your dog?  kill your baby?  they have discovered that americans don't
care about any of that as long as it is a nickel cheaper

this outrage is all consumer driven.  we got what we asked for


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 That chink dogfood killed my dog some years ago.  I don't buy much
 (people) stuff in a can or that is processed, and look carefully to see
 where it might be from.

 Most apple juice and honey is from China now, and pickles from India.  I
 mostly get local stuff now and some stuff that says where it is from.

 The tea I had today was grown and picked right close by.

 --R



 On 9/5/13 10:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 So if you can't trust the quality of Chinese car parts, why do you trust
 that Chinese tea doesn't contain anything harmful


 They _drink_ tea.  A lot.  I'd distrust the purely-for-export
 products a lot more.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You got banned and moved somewhere so I never did.  And actually I have 
not been over there in ages, and I keep meaning to go but it is like a 
50mi roundtrip if I drive but would only be a coupla miles if I took the 
kayak if I had a place to throw it in close by.  I'll get over there 
sometime, or you could just order some off their web site.  They do sell 
bagged American Classic in the grocery store, which I buy.  I think it 
has tea mixed in it from their (Bigelow) plantations in SA, as the woman 
at the Plantation here told me, though the boxes recently seem to 
suggest it is all from here.


--R


On 9/2/13 11:16 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

you were supposed to send me some once  :P


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Y'all should get some fine tea from America's Tea Plantation which is the
only one in North America and is about a mile from where I sit.  Maybe 2.
  Charleston Tea Plantation.  Fun to visit too.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-03 Thread Gary Hurst
everyone has excuses for why they can't deliver -- except me!


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 You got banned and moved somewhere so I never did.  And actually I have
 not been over there in ages, and I keep meaning to go but it is like a 50mi
 roundtrip if I drive but would only be a coupla miles if I took the kayak
 if I had a place to throw it in close by.  I'll get over there sometime, or
 you could just order some off their web site.  They do sell bagged American
 Classic in the grocery store, which I buy.  I think it has tea mixed in it
 from their (Bigelow) plantations in SA, as the woman at the Plantation here
 told me, though the boxes recently seem to suggest it is all from here.

 --R



 On 9/2/13 11:16 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 you were supposed to send me some once  :P


 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

  Y'all should get some fine tea from America's Tea Plantation which is
 the
 only one in North America and is about a mile from where I sit.  Maybe
 2.
   Charleston Tea Plantation.  Fun to visit too.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-02 Thread Gary Hurst
yunnan is particularly known for puerh, which is actually a green tea that
is fermented dark. i drink some every day.   quite good for the digestion

i drink mostly yorskshire tea on ice.  for hot i drink mostly green tea
with roasted brown rice in it.

i plan to be around for a long time to come, so you've got a shot of
becoming a customer


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:57 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very good - so do I. I'm getting a cuppa Yunnan Black right now, my new
 favorite black tea.

 Semi-on-topic, will you be selling me parts for my 2012 Passat when it's
 out of warranty in a few years?
 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  i drink a lot of tea
 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Y'all should get some fine tea from America's Tea Plantation which is the only 
one in North America and is about a mile from where I sit.  Maybe 2.  
Charleston Tea Plantation.  Fun to visit too.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

yunnan is particularly known for puerh, which is actually a green tea that
is fermented dark. i drink some every day.   quite good for the digestion

i drink mostly yorskshire tea on ice.  for hot i drink mostly green tea
with roasted brown rice in it.

i plan to be around for a long time to come, so you've got a shot of
becoming a customer


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:57 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very good - so do I. I'm getting a cuppa Yunnan Black right now, my new
 favorite black tea.
 
 Semi-on-topic, will you be selling me parts for my 2012 Passat when it's
 out of warranty in a few years?
 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i drink a lot of tea
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea

2013-09-02 Thread Gary Hurst
you were supposed to send me some once  :P


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Y'all should get some fine tea from America's Tea Plantation which is the
 only one in North America and is about a mile from where I sit.  Maybe 2.
  Charleston Tea Plantation.  Fun to visit too.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)

 On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 yunnan is particularly known for puerh, which is actually a green tea that
 is fermented dark. i drink some every day.   quite good for the digestion

 i drink mostly yorskshire tea on ice.  for hot i drink mostly green tea
 with roasted brown rice in it.

 i plan to be around for a long time to come, so you've got a shot of
 becoming a customer


 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:57 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

  Very good - so do I. I'm getting a cuppa Yunnan Black right now, my new
  favorite black tea.
 
  Semi-on-topic, will you be selling me parts for my 2012 Passat when it's
  out of warranty in a few years?
  On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  i drink a lot of tea
 
 
 
  --
  OK Don
  They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
  safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
  in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
 taxes.
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  2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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