Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy Cruze

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

A possibilty. Send me some details.

Allan

Curley McLain via Mercedes  writes:

> Buy Mitch's!
>
> Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote on 10/22/19 11:14 AM:
>> Any experiences?
>>
>> Needing to replace our venerable Focus soon. Still runs well at 210K
>> miles but rust is taking its toll and it has a number of other cosmetic
>> and mechanical issues.
>>
>> Noticed that the Cruze is (or was) available with a 6-speed manual and
>> wondering how that might compare to the automatic in terms of
>> durability/longevity? There was also a diesel option but that's a
>> non-negotiable "no" with my wife.
>>
>> Also considering a newer Focus.
>>
>> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy Cruze

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Buy Mitch's!

Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote on 10/22/19 11:14 AM:

Any experiences?

Needing to replace our venerable Focus soon. Still runs well at 210K
miles but rust is taking its toll and it has a number of other cosmetic
and mechanical issues.

Noticed that the Cruze is (or was) available with a 6-speed manual and
wondering how that might compare to the automatic in terms of
durability/longevity? They was also a diesel option but that's a
non-negotiable "no" with my wife.

Also considering a newer Focus.

Allan





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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy Cruze

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Stick shift not fun in an enthusiast way,better mpg in town, and at least the 
2nd gen cars, especially 2nd gen diesels, have serious reliability issues with 
the stupid dual mass flywheel, and above average issues with clutch hydraulics.

The auto six speed is pretty good, except fuel economy stinks in stop and go 
traffic. When you're in a car that can get 50 mpg in 5th or 6th with the clutch 
locked, 25-30 mpg in town can bother a guy like me, especially when I turn a 
47mpg tank into a 45mpg tank being in town for 15 minutes.

I've been sitting here with two Cruzes since the kid moved out, a red 2016 with 
20kmi and a black 2017 with body damage and 2k. Need to put the black one back 
together and sell one of them, or sell the red one so I have to get off my butt 
and fix the black one.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Why use "real" controls when you can bury some button 18 layers down in 
the interface?



Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 9/24/19 1:54 PM:

Earlier this summer we rented a VW Passat for one day, one way, mostly
driving at night.

I was not too impressed because of a couple of major design "features".

(1) the parking brake is activated by a button near the gear shift, which
is difficult to identify and far from intuitive to use.  Several times I
thought I had it engaged, but it wasn't.  I believe that it would
automatically disengage when the engine was running and the gear shift was
moved out of park!

(2) in order to dim the instrument panel for night driving, which is done
via several layers of menus on the touchscreen, I had to pull over to the
side of the road and spend a few minutes examining / playing with all the
various buttons and wheels on the dash and then finally resigning to
searching through the touchscreen menu, with print so small it would be
quite impossible so safely adjust those lights at night, while driving on a
strange road.

Many other controls were ergonomically perfect and right where they should
be, identical to cars and trucks I'm used to driving, but these two things
sunk it for me.  Ride was very quiet, handling responsive, power was
adequate, visibility was not too bad but nowhere close to as good as my 124
cars.  No thanks, I'll keep driving my anachronisms.

I think this car also had something odd about how the gear shifter
controlled the automatic trans which was also "non-standard" so one had to
pay close attention going into reverse or something.
-
Max
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

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On 24/09/2019 5:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On September 24, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
The Impala had separate controls below the touch screen for the HVAC.

The touch screen handled the GPS navigation, backup camera and the sound
system. Not sure if it did anything else.

If it's like my Cruze, the common radio controls (preset station selection and 
volume) are duplicated with hidden buttons on the back of the steering wheel. 
And there are mechanical knobs/buttons for volume/tuning/power below the 
touchscreen and above the HVAC controls.

Mitch.

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Yes, I think so. I did not use the buttons on the steering wheel (I did 
not use the radio) but there are also knobs on the dash below the screen 
and above the HVAC controls.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 24, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> The Impala had separate controls below the touch screen for the HVAC.
> 
> The touch screen handled the GPS navigation, backup camera and the sound 
> system. Not sure if it did anything else.

If it's like my Cruze, the common radio controls (preset station selection and 
volume) are duplicated with hidden buttons on the back of the steering wheel. 
And there are mechanical knobs/buttons for volume/tuning/power below the 
touchscreen and above the HVAC controls. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I believe that it [parking brake] would automatically disengage when the
> engine was running and the gear shift was moved out of park!
>

As did our Mercury Park Lane.  In 1965.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My mother has a Cherokee with touch screen everything, maybe theres a fan 
control, I don't recall. I hate it.Dad's Renegade is, I think, 2 years newer, 
the HVAC is all real controls, the GPS, radio, etc is all touch controls, that 
I can live with, I think the radio has a real volume knob...
-Curt

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 5:41:37 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 24/09/2019 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  I don't like touchscreens, especially if they control the HVAC on them. I 
>don't like having something I can't feel, it requires that I have to take my 
>eyes off the road.
> The "automatic" transmission in VWs today is in fact a manual transmission 
> with a clutch that you don't get to operate. Fords are the same. I find them 
> grabby and annoying in close quarters like a parking lot, I much prefer a 
> manual transmission or a real slushbox.
> -Curt
>
>    

The Impala had separate controls below the touch screen for the HVAC.

The touch screen handled the GPS navigation, backup camera and the sound 
system. Not sure if it did anything else.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 24/09/2019 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  I don't like touchscreens, especially if they control the HVAC on them. I 
don't like having something I can't feel, it requires that I have to take my 
eyes off the road.
The "automatic" transmission in VWs today is in fact a manual transmission with 
a clutch that you don't get to operate. Fords are the same. I find them grabby and 
annoying in close quarters like a parking lot, I much prefer a manual transmission or a 
real slushbox.
-Curt

   


The Impala had separate controls below the touch screen for the HVAC.

The touch screen handled the GPS navigation, backup camera and the sound 
system. Not sure if it did anything else.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I don't like touchscreens, especially if they control the HVAC on them. I 
don't like having something I can't feel, it requires that I have to take my 
eyes off the road.
The "automatic" transmission in VWs today is in fact a manual transmission with 
a clutch that you don't get to operate. Fords are the same. I find them grabby 
and annoying in close quarters like a parking lot, I much prefer a manual 
transmission or a real slushbox.
-Curt

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 2:55:32 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Earlier this summer we rented a VW Passat for one day, one way, mostly
driving at night.

I was not too impressed because of a couple of major design "features".

(1) the parking brake is activated by a button near the gear shift, which
is difficult to identify and far from intuitive to use.  Several times I
thought I had it engaged, but it wasn't.  I believe that it would
automatically disengage when the engine was running and the gear shift was
moved out of park!

(2) in order to dim the instrument panel for night driving, which is done
via several layers of menus on the touchscreen, I had to pull over to the
side of the road and spend a few minutes examining / playing with all the
various buttons and wheels on the dash and then finally resigning to
searching through the touchscreen menu, with print so small it would be
quite impossible so safely adjust those lights at night, while driving on a
strange road.

Many other controls were ergonomically perfect and right where they should
be, identical to cars and trucks I'm used to driving, but these two things
sunk it for me.  Ride was very quiet, handling responsive, power was
adequate, visibility was not too bad but nowhere close to as good as my 124
cars.  No thanks, I'll keep driving my anachronisms.

I think this car also had something odd about how the gear shifter
controlled the automatic trans which was also "non-standard" so one had to
pay close attention going into reverse or something.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:18 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I just had a 2019 Chevy Impala Premier Addition rental car for several
> days. It was essentially new with 4200 miles on it. I found it to be a
> nice vehicle and very easy to drive. Lots of bells and whistles so who
> knows how it would stand the test of time, but as a new vehicle, really
> pretty decent. Silver with black leather interior. I think I would like
> one if they were not so expensive and about to disappear from production.
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I hear you loud and clear. I had a 2002 F150 Supercrew and I now have a 
2013 F150 Supercrew. One sort of expects that each generation should get 
better as the designers tend to pay more attention to ergonomics than 
they once did.


However, on the 2013, they moved the ignition lock such that I cannot 
see it when sitting in the driver's seat unless I lean over and look for 
it. It was much easier to put the key in the ignition of the 2002 
because I could see the ignition lock without having to  contort myself 
to see the lock.


The second thing that annoys me is that the switch on the dash to change 
into 4 wheel drive is now behind the shifter when the truck is in drive. 
It is difficult to access in the winter when I am wearing gloves. It was 
fine in the 2002 version as it was in a different spot on the dash.


Randy



On 24/09/2019 1:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Earlier this summer we rented a VW Passat for one day, one way, mostly
driving at night.

I was not too impressed because of a couple of major design "features".

(1) the parking brake is activated by a button near the gear shift, which
is difficult to identify and far from intuitive to use.  Several times I
thought I had it engaged, but it wasn't.  I believe that it would
automatically disengage when the engine was running and the gear shift was
moved out of park!

(2) in order to dim the instrument panel for night driving, which is done
via several layers of menus on the touchscreen, I had to pull over to the
side of the road and spend a few minutes examining / playing with all the
various buttons and wheels on the dash and then finally resigning to
searching through the touchscreen menu, with print so small it would be
quite impossible so safely adjust those lights at night, while driving on a
strange road.

Many other controls were ergonomically perfect and right where they should
be, identical to cars and trucks I'm used to driving, but these two things
sunk it for me.  Ride was very quiet, handling responsive, power was
adequate, visibility was not too bad but nowhere close to as good as my 124
cars.  No thanks, I'll keep driving my anachronisms.

I think this car also had something odd about how the gear shifter
controlled the automatic trans which was also "non-standard" so one had to
pay close attention going into reverse or something.
-
Max
Charleston SC






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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Earlier this summer we rented a VW Passat for one day, one way, mostly
driving at night.

I was not too impressed because of a couple of major design "features".

(1) the parking brake is activated by a button near the gear shift, which
is difficult to identify and far from intuitive to use.  Several times I
thought I had it engaged, but it wasn't.  I believe that it would
automatically disengage when the engine was running and the gear shift was
moved out of park!

(2) in order to dim the instrument panel for night driving, which is done
via several layers of menus on the touchscreen, I had to pull over to the
side of the road and spend a few minutes examining / playing with all the
various buttons and wheels on the dash and then finally resigning to
searching through the touchscreen menu, with print so small it would be
quite impossible so safely adjust those lights at night, while driving on a
strange road.

Many other controls were ergonomically perfect and right where they should
be, identical to cars and trucks I'm used to driving, but these two things
sunk it for me.  Ride was very quiet, handling responsive, power was
adequate, visibility was not too bad but nowhere close to as good as my 124
cars.  No thanks, I'll keep driving my anachronisms.

I think this car also had something odd about how the gear shifter
controlled the automatic trans which was also "non-standard" so one had to
pay close attention going into reverse or something.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:18 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I just had a 2019 Chevy Impala Premier Addition rental car for several
> days. It was essentially new with 4200 miles on it. I found it to be a
> nice vehicle and very easy to drive. Lots of bells and whistles so who
> knows how it would stand the test of time, but as a new vehicle, really
> pretty decent. Silver with black leather interior. I think I would like
> one if they were not so expensive and about to disappear from production.
>
> Randy
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Chevy, Ford and Chrysler have been making adequate, if not exciting, cars for 
over a decade now. If your goal was to have a toaster to take you from place to 
place I'd say one of the big three is the way to go.
While they're expensive if you check on a comparably equipped Toyota I think 
you'll find them similar if not cheaper.
Last week I had a bright red Kia Soul rental. Other than the very buzzy four 
banger its adequate transportation. I generally like Kias because they're 
brightly colored. Often I forget what my rental car is and lose it in a parking 
lot. A bright color helps.
-Curt

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 1:40:00 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I just had a 2019 Chevy Impala Premier Addition rental car for several 
days. It was essentially new with 4200 miles on it. I found it to be a 
nice vehicle and very easy to drive. Lots of bells and whistles so who 
knows how it would stand the test of time, but as a new vehicle, really 
pretty decent. Silver with black leather interior. I think I would like 
one if they were not so expensive and about to disappear from production.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy Cruze Diesel

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

G Mann via Mercedes 
February 19, 2017 at 3:48 PM
A good marketing department ...
We ARE talking GM here.  I don't think they have had a good ad since 
they fired Dinah Shore.

... blah blah
blah..

So it is probably doomed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy Cruze Diesel

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A good marketing department would make exactly that issue a strong point..

ie... "Our diesel powered car passes ALL EPA EMISSIONS REQUIREMENTS" and
delivers  miles per gallon. Unlike some of our competitors... blah blah
blah..


On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dontcha think the VW diesel fubar will be affecting sales of these?
> Who wants to go through what VW owners have been suffering under the
> name diesel.
> tin-man
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy Cruze Diesel

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dontcha think the VW diesel fubar will be affecting sales of these?
Who wants to go through what VW owners have been suffering under the
name diesel.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy Cruze Diesel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

How long does it take for the 52mpg diesel to overcome its price premium over 
the 40mpg 1.4L gasser?

Mitch. 

> Yes you should get a Cruze diesel, or better yet a Colorado diesel then you 
> can haul stuff 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy Cruze Diesel

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes you should get a Cruze diesel, or better yet a Colorado diesel then you can 
haul stuff 

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> On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> *Just when it was looking like Diesel sedans were disappearing:*
> 
> The 2017 Chevrolet Cruze Diesel makes a powerful argument for the benefits
> automakers and their customers get from global engineering and
> manufacturing.
> 
> Chevrolet wouldn’t have the engine without General Motors’ product
> development and manufacturing operations around the world. U.S. diesel car
> sales are too small to justify developing and building the engine. To make
> economic sense, the program had to piggyback on diesel production in other
> parts of the world, offering U.S. buyers a choice they wouldn’t otherwise
> have.
> 
> Diesels are very popular in some countries, but they account for a tiny
> share of American passenger vehicle sales, peaking around 3% before
> plummeting when Volkswagen’s diesel program went up in smoke.
> 
> Despite that, GM is optimistic about the technology’s prospects. In
> addition to the Cruze compact sedan and hatchback, GM will offer the new
> 1.6-liter diesel in the 2018 Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain compact SUVs
> that go on sale later this year.
> 
> In the Cruze, the new 1.6-liter four-cylinder turbodiesel gives the Cruze
> the highest EPA rating for highway fuel economy of any non-hybrid or
> electric vehicle sold in the U.S. — 52 miles per gallon with General
> Motor’s new nine-speed automatic transmission.
> 
> The engine also gets 30 mpg in the city and 37 mpg in combined city and
> highway driving. The engine is also 50% quieter at idle than the previous
> Cruze diesel.
> 
> “Diesels are and will remain an important part” of Chevrolet’s program to
> reduce carbon dioxiThe new 1.6-liter four-cylinder turbodiesel gives the
> Cruze the highest EPA rating for highway fuel economy of any non-hybrid or
> electric vehicle sold in the U.S. — 52 miles per gallon with General
> Motor’s new nine-speed automatic transmission.
> 
> GM vice president of global propulsion systems Dan Nicholson said, adding
> that the engines’ efficiency can save customers thousands of dollars in
> fuel bills, despite the fact that the engine adds about $2,800 to the price
> of a Cruze hatchback.
> 
> “Diesels present an opportunity for growth for Chevrolet,” because they
> combine fuel economy and high torque output for acceleration, Nicholson
> said.
> 
> The Cruze’s 1.6-liter turbodiesel produces 137 horsepower.
> 
> Chevrolet and GMC will have a total of 10 diesel vehicles on sale in the
> U.S. by the end of this year, ranging from the Cruze and Equinox to the
> Colorado and Canyon midsize pickups and heavy-duty full-size pickups. GM
> sells a total 34 diesel-powered vehicles around the world, including many
> small cars and SUVs in Europe and Korea, where diesels are very popular.
> 
> “Diesels are one of the lowest cost ways to reduce carbon dioxide
> emissions,” Nicholson said.
> 
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/gm-goes-global-to-make-chevy-cruze-diesel/ar-AAn6JjP?li=BBnbfcN
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks

[Peter Frederick]

There are several known points of failure on these guys.

First and foremost, a broken pressure relief valve spring will cause  
a complete loss of oil pressure.  So will a broken drive shaft inside  
the pump (no rotation of the gears although the shaft turns).


You may also have a worn out oil pump if it was not replaced, they  
aren't like a Benz, there isn't that much reserve capacity to allow  
wear.


Check to make sure you don't have too much oil flow to the upper end  
-- some of them over-oil the lifter gallery, and if the lifter holes  
are worn, they will drop oil pressure.


And it may just have been a crappy rebuild.  Not uncommon on those,  
the usual cheap job is to ball hone the cylinder and toss in  
oversized rings and slap cheap bearings in it.  Worse yet, people do  
a valve job and restore the compression on a worn engine and don't do  
the bottom half, leaving you will marginal crank and rods on a new  
engines.  They often toss a rod shortly after a head job for that  
reason.


Check the bores for shiny spots around the bolts -- if this is the  
case, the rebuild was junk.  You can only machine or measure those  
bores properly with a torque plate, the bolts distort the cylinders  
quite a bit, so if machined without the plate bolted on, the pistons  
will bind when you put the head on


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks

[Fmiser]

 R A Bennell wrote:

 Anyone on here with real experience with older Chevy small
 blocks?
 
 I finally pulled the oilpan on the motor from the boat to have
 a look. It was fairly obvious from the knocking noises that it
 had suffered a loss of oil pressure. We half expected to find
 the oil pickup had fallen off of the pump. However that was
 not the case. The oil pump is intact and the shaft turns when
 one turns the crankshaft with a breaker bar.

 So, why did it lose pressure? Any ideas on what I should look
 for?

Did you check the interior of the oil pump?

 Have not pulled enough parts yet to lift the crank out and
 look at the holes that feed the crank. That may be sufficient
 to tell the tale. I doubt it is anything a simple as incorrect
 parts installed as I believe it was run for a summer without
 problems before it came to grief the next summer.

It would be hard to block the primary oil feed if the pump was
good.  They can develop a _lot_ of pressure.

Plugged oil filter?

Remote filter with pinched lines?

--   Philip My other motor is a small block Chevy

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks

[Peter Frederick]

A glob of silicone sealant wrecked the crank (and block eventually)  
on my brother's 75 300D.  It blocked the oil flow to the #2 crankpin,  
which eventually scored the crank and caused it to break.  I've also  
seen a bit of paper towel ruin a large engine by blocking the flow of  
oil to a bearing.  Doesn't take all that much, just has to prevent  
oil from going past.  Pressure is fairly low, after all, something  
like 65 psi max.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks / ASCII Characters

[LWB250]

This is what I'm talking about, smartass:

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks / ASCII Characters

[LWB250]

Maybe it's just Peter's mail

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks / ASCII Characters

[Peter Frederick]

Ho, now THAT's fun!

I do have a mac, but I don't think you should be getting text with  
the high bit set!


Anyone else getting hash from me?

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chevy small blocks / ASCII Characters

[OK Don]

It came through as normal text on Gmail -- except the example LWB250
forwarded.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Ho, now THAT's fun!

 I do have a mac, but I don't think you should be getting text with the high
 bit set!

 Anyone else getting hash from me?

 Peter




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy full-size 4WD systems

[R A Bennell]

I'm not really familiar with the Chevy's so maybe I should just keep quiet, but 
I am guessing they are similar to
the Fords. My Supercrew has a button set up to switch between 2WD and 4WD high 
and low but is not fulltime. I
cannot run in 4WD on dry pavement. The button just operates an electrical setup 
that does the shifting in lieu of a
manual lever like on the older ones.

Randy

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Chevy full-size 4WD systems


I know a lot of guys on the list have Suburbans, Tahoes, and full-size
Chevy/GMC trucks, so somebody must know the scoop on this.  I'm
looking at mid-to-late-'90s Suburbans and I think I'm seeing at least
three different kinds of 4WD systems, but I'm not sure of the details.
 Most of the '95s and '96s I've seen have the transfer case lever on
the floor labeled 2WD, 4WD LO, and 4WD HI---that makes sense to me.

I know that in 1998 the lever on the floor went away and a full-time
system was offered with a viscous coupling in the middle of the
drivetrain so that you could leave it in 4WD all the time without
ruining the front differential.  At least some of the trucks with this
system (maybe all?) have buttons on the left side of the dash to
actuate it, presumably via solenoids in the driveline somewhere.

But I just looked at a '97 and it has buttons for the 4WD on the right
side of the steering column, kind of hidden behind the shift lever.
What kind of system is this?

Anybody have any opinions to offer on the pros and cons of the various
systems?  I'm used to the simplicity of the manual transfer case on my
Isuzu Trooper, but hate the auto-locking hubs on that truck (I'm going
to replace them with manual Warns at some point). But SWMBO is going
to be driving the Suburban occasionally, and she'd definitely prefer
fully automatic AWD.

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy full-size 4WD systems

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well supposedly the old fashioned manual version is more reliable, less 
to go wrong.  Both were offered along side each other, may still be.  My 
old 87 burb had the leaver, so did my 93.  My 02 truck is push button 
but I have seen other 02's and newer with the leaver.


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

I know a lot of guys on the list have Suburbans, Tahoes, and full-size
Chevy/GMC trucks, so somebody must know the scoop on this.  I'm
looking at mid-to-late-'90s Suburbans and I think I'm seeing at least
three different kinds of 4WD systems, but I'm not sure of the details.
 Most of the '95s and '96s I've seen have the transfer case lever on
the floor labeled 2WD, 4WD LO, and 4WD HI---that makes sense to me.

I know that in 1998 the lever on the floor went away and a full-time
system was offered with a viscous coupling in the middle of the
drivetrain so that you could leave it in 4WD all the time without
ruining the front differential.  At least some of the trucks with this
system (maybe all?) have buttons on the left side of the dash to
actuate it, presumably via solenoids in the driveline somewhere.

But I just looked at a '97 and it has buttons for the 4WD on the right
side of the steering column, kind of hidden behind the shift lever.
What kind of system is this?

Anybody have any opinions to offer on the pros and cons of the various
systems?  I'm used to the simplicity of the manual transfer case on my
Isuzu Trooper, but hate the auto-locking hubs on that truck (I'm going
to replace them with manual Warns at some point). But SWMBO is going
to be driving the Suburban occasionally, and she'd definitely prefer
fully automatic AWD.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: CHevy 265/283/302/305/350/366/400/427 small blocks

[jfreezn]

the Corvette Z06, released in 2006, is powered by an LS7, a?427 inch variation 
of the 265 inch small block, as well.? Producing 505 HP, it?was the only 
production?car over 400 HP to avoid the gas guzzler tax.

The 400 badged cars of the 70s could have been either a small block, or a 
smog version of the big block, dispacing 403 cu inch.

Finally, a twin turbo version of the LS7 is making the news lately, with 
somewhere about 650 HP, when released, and using a few LESS cubic inches which 
will allow a beefier block.

Jim in Phoenix


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350  MB at speed



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Originaly the 265 Cu/in V8.  Very early ones had bad cranks, evolved in one 
 of 
the most widly used engines in our time.  They have been made up to 400 cu/in, 
and very stout!


So my dad's Chevy Kingswood wagon with '400' badges on the fenders had a
small block? My sister had the same car with a 327. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: CHevy 265/283/302/305/350/366/400/427 small blocks

[Fmiser]

 Jim in Phoenix

You missed the 327 and 397 in the subject.

*grin*

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Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[Tom Hargrave]

Do a rolling oil change if you want to, but.

A friend of mine used the same theory in his 1973 Olds Omega. He owned
the car since new and he'd always change the filter  top off the oil.

At about 60,000 miles, he started the engine in his driveway and it went
knock, knock, knock, knock, knock and then it stopped. The engine was
locked up.

He pulled the dipstick  it read full. I came over that weekend and we
started to pull the engine. I unscrewed the drain plug  nothing came
out! Went back to the dip stick  it read full!

We went ahead  pulled the engine. I pulled the pan  it was full of
hard sludge, with a small depression for the end of the dip stick 
another larger depression for the oil pump pickup.

I figured the engine had been running on about one quart of oil for a
long, long time.

Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

On Feb 11, 2008 2:05 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perfect system, never have to change it, just top it up.  After 3 top
ups,
 the oil is all new. hee hee.

There's something wrong with the logic there, but I can't quite put my
finger on it.  It kind of reminds me of the argument that you might as
well just pour beer into the toilet and eliminate the middleman.  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[E M]

I have a friend working over in the middle east.  He tells me, ppl there do
regular oil changes, as oil costs next to nothing, but they seldom change
the filter.  lol

Ed
300E

On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do a rolling oil change if you want to, but.

 A friend of mine used the same theory in his 1973 Olds Omega. He owned
 the car since new and he'd always change the filter  top off the oil.

 At about 60,000 miles, he started the engine in his driveway and it went
 knock, knock, knock, knock, knock and then it stopped. The engine was
 locked up.

 He pulled the dipstick  it read full. I came over that weekend and we
 started to pull the engine. I unscrewed the drain plug  nothing came
 out! Went back to the dip stick  it read full!

 We went ahead  pulled the engine. I pulled the pan  it was full of
 hard sludge, with a small depression for the end of the dip stick 
 another larger depression for the oil pump pickup.

 I figured the engine had been running on about one quart of oil for a
 long, long time.

 Tom
 www.kegkits.com


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 Received: 2/11/08 5:33 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC:
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

 On Feb 11, 2008 2:05 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Perfect system, never have to change it, just top it up.  After 3 top
 ups,
  the oil is all new. hee hee.

 There's something wrong with the logic there, but I can't quite put my
 finger on it.  It kind of reminds me of the argument that you might as
 well just pour beer into the toilet and eliminate the middleman.  ;)

 Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[E M]

HA HA HA.

Ed
300E

On 11/02/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 11, 2008 2:05 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Perfect system, never have to change it, just top it up.  After 3 top
 ups,
  the oil is all new. hee hee.


 There's something wrong with the logic there, but I can't quite put my
 finger on it.  It kind of reminds me of the argument that you might as
 well just pour beer into the toilet and eliminate the middleman.  ;)

 Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Feb 11, 2008 2:05 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perfect system, never have to change it, just top it up.  After 3 top ups,
 the oil is all new. hee hee.

There's something wrong with the logic there, but I can't quite put my
finger on it.  It kind of reminds me of the argument that you might as
well just pour beer into the toilet and eliminate the middleman.  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] OT CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[E M]

Perfect system, never have to change it, just top it up.  After 3 top ups,
the oil is all new. hee hee.  Almost as good as an old Jag, pour it in the
top and watch it drip out the bottom. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 11/02/2008, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My old VW bug (no longer have it) used 2.5 quarts, filter did not matter
 because it did not have one ...But the air cleaned was oil bath, think it
 used about third of a quart can't quite remember ..


 George Larribeau
 Dallas Texas


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 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:22 PM
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 I still own a 1977 Vette with a 350. The oil capacity is 4 quarts with a
  filter change.
 
  Tom
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Re: [MBZ] OT: CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[E M]

Hey, I hear you.  I had to do some serious digging with the last one I
changed.  And of course, there was half a foot of snow on the ground when it
happened too!  Never fails. :-)

Ed
300E

On 11/02/2008, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The core is pretty well buried up under the dash. The blower fan took me a
 good half a day, I imagine the core would take a whole day.
 I just want to limp the truck along until next winter when I've saved up
 some $$ for a newer one.

 Although I do know of a '98 S10 extended cab with only 48,000 miles for a
 good price.

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:35:33 -0500
 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I'd stay away from that sealant stuff, and just change the core.  That
 sealant stuff can plug holes, and everything else too.  I always worry
   about
 that kind of stuff being in all the coolant passageways.  I changed a
   heater
 core once that let go right at the joint where the hole connects.  The
 connection was plastic, so when it let go, it did so in a BIG way!  I
   made
 sure the replacement core was all metal. I wasn't far from home but
   still
 managed to go through 30 litres of mineral water I had to pick up at a
   store
 on the way back.  So, 30 litres of water in less than 4 kms is a pretty
   good
 leak. hee hee.

 Ed
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Re: [MBZ] OT: CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges

[Curt Raymond]

The core is pretty well buried up under the dash. The blower fan took me a good 
half a day, I imagine the core would take a whole day.
I just want to limp the truck along until next winter when I've saved up some 
$$ for a newer one.

Although I do know of a '98 S10 extended cab with only 48,000 miles for a good 
price.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:35:33 -0500
From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'd stay away from that sealant stuff, and just change the core.  That
sealant stuff can plug holes, and everything else too.  I always worry
 about
that kind of stuff being in all the coolant passageways.  I changed a
 heater
core once that let go right at the joint where the hole connects.  The
connection was plastic, so when it let go, it did so in a BIG way!  I
 made
sure the replacement core was all metal. I wasn't far from home but
 still
managed to go through 30 litres of mineral water I had to pick up at a
 store
on the way back.  So, 30 litres of water in less than 4 kms is a pretty
 good
leak. hee hee.

Ed 
300E

   
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