Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes
Yes, a big no-no. I am told if one is to be tramping in the woods doing things like that, best to carry a walking stick to sorta pound around on things to at least give the snake a bit of warning and time to move or something, so you don't startle them to bite. Snake boots help too. Best not to step over the log (or go poking in the wood pile too). A little kid last year got hit by a big rattler 3 or 4 times when he stepped over a log in the woods in a park around here, I think he was in the hospital for like 3 months, was touch and go for quite some time but he finally made it though has some system degradation. --R On 9/4/13 6:18 PM, Craig wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), Craig wrote: I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. Step _on_ the log. That keeps your feet further away from the under-the-log snake habitat. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Sounds like airspeed and altitude in an airplane. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes Having come upon over 100 rattlesnakes in the past 24 months.. I guess I'm something near PhD in Rattlesnake.. I've found them in all kinds of places.. all which you would least expect.. they are the masters of stealth attack.. Of the 100+ only 4 to date gave warning rattle.. something you should be aware of.. Apparently, from discussions with Herpologist, the snakes that rattle have been killed out of the breeding pool over the past generations as man has further invaded their turf... those that survive go the the stealth and strike posture. Rattlesnake strike zone is, by rule of thumb, 2/3rd it's length.. stay beyond that and your risk of getting hit goes down exponentially. The trick it to judge just how long the coiled snake is... live or die.. snap judgement.. Strikes are lightening quick.. and multiple strikes are normal.. faster than you can imagine.. Nature has made them the ultimate hunter/killer machine. They know all about you long before you discover them and are ready. Distance is your friend.. see one.. get some . Grant... On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes, a big no-no. I am told if one is to be tramping in the woods doing things like that, best to carry a walking stick to sorta pound around on things to at least give the snake a bit of warning and time to move or something, so you don't startle them to bite. Snake boots help too. Best not to step over the log (or go poking in the wood pile too). A little kid last year got hit by a big rattler 3 or 4 times when he stepped over a log in the woods in a park around here, I think he was in the hospital for like 3 months, was touch and go for quite some time but he finally made it though has some system degradation. --R On 9/4/13 6:18 PM, Craig wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Never saw one in Greenland. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes I think that if I lived where I might have come upon over 100 in the past 24 months, I would no longer be living in that area. The distance I would have got would have been considerable. It is one thing we don't have much of in this area. Maybe they don't like snow. Randy Having come upon over 100 rattlesnakes in the past 24 months.. Distance is your friend.. see one.. get some . Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep; not quite the best kind. Best kind is stiff - dried up stiff. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes If you had, it likely would have been a bit sluggish from the cold. Randy On 05/09/2013 3:35 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Never saw one in Greenland. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes I think that if I lived where I might have come upon over 100 in the past 24 months, I would no longer be living in that area. The distance I would have got would have been considerable. It is one thing we don't have much of in this area. Maybe they don't like snow. Randy Having come upon over 100 rattlesnakes in the past 24 months.. Distance is your friend.. see one.. get some . Grant... _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Having come upon over 100 rattlesnakes in the past 24 months.. I guess I'm something near PhD in Rattlesnake.. I've found them in all kinds of places.. all which you would least expect.. they are the masters of stealth attack.. Of the 100+ only 4 to date gave warning rattle.. something you should be aware of.. Apparently, from discussions with Herpologist, the snakes that rattle have been killed out of the breeding pool over the past generations as man has further invaded their turf... those that survive go the the stealth and strike posture. Rattlesnake strike zone is, by rule of thumb, 2/3rd it's length.. stay beyond that and your risk of getting hit goes down exponentially. The trick it to judge just how long the coiled snake is... live or die.. snap judgement.. Strikes are lightening quick.. and multiple strikes are normal.. faster than you can imagine.. Nature has made them the ultimate hunter/killer machine. They know all about you long before you discover them and are ready. Distance is your friend.. see one.. get some . Grant... On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes, a big no-no. I am told if one is to be tramping in the woods doing things like that, best to carry a walking stick to sorta pound around on things to at least give the snake a bit of warning and time to move or something, so you don't startle them to bite. Snake boots help too. Best not to step over the log (or go poking in the wood pile too). A little kid last year got hit by a big rattler 3 or 4 times when he stepped over a log in the woods in a park around here, I think he was in the hospital for like 3 months, was touch and go for quite some time but he finally made it though has some system degradation. --R On 9/4/13 6:18 PM, Craig wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com attachment: ZV2dM7e.jpg___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 05/09/2013 10:36 AM, David Kristin Gilmore wrote: Step _on_ the log, not over it is the way I was taught. Then look down and if you see a poisonous snake freeze your movement until the snake crawls away. Carrying a stick is a good idea too. Something to bang around with and long enough to fend off a rabid coon, fox, or skunk. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Does that stick have a hole in the end and a place where you insert shells? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sacrificial dog, like the canary in the mine? (Yes, I know, sick joke). On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: So what do people with dogs do? Do they leave them home when they go into snake territory? Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you had, it likely would have been a bit sluggish from the cold. Randy On 05/09/2013 3:35 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Never saw one in Greenland. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes I think that if I lived where I might have come upon over 100 in the past 24 months, I would no longer be living in that area. The distance I would have got would have been considerable. It is one thing we don't have much of in this area. Maybe they don't like snow. Randy Having come upon over 100 rattlesnakes in the past 24 months.. Distance is your friend.. see one.. get some . Grant... _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think that if I lived where I might have come upon over 100 in the past 24 months, I would no longer be living in that area. The distance I would have got would have been considerable. It is one thing we don't have much of in this area. Maybe they don't like snow. Randy Having come upon over 100 rattlesnakes in the past 24 months.. Distance is your friend.. see one.. get some . Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 11:36:35 -0400 David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: On 9/4/13 6:18 PM, Craig wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. Step _on_ the log, not over it is the way I was taught. Then look down and if you see a poisonous snake freeze your movement until the snake crawls away. Carrying a stick is a good idea too. Something to bang around with and long enough to fend off a rabid coon, fox, or skunk. So what do people with dogs do? Do they leave them home when they go into snake territory? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 05/09/2013 11:34 AM, Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), Craig wrote: I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. Step _on_ the log. That keeps your feet further away from the under-the-log snake habitat. --Philip I thought the standard defence was good leather boots up to the knee or more. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just like hunting in Alaska. When a bear attacks, shoot the dog! Dan On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Sacrificial dog, like the canary in the mine? (Yes, I know, sick joke). On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: So what do people with dogs do? Do they leave them home when they go into snake territory? Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 10:30 AM 9/5/2013, --R wrote: Yes, a big no-no. I am told if one is to be tramping in the woods doing things like that, best to carry a walking stick to sorta pound around on things to at least give the snake a bit of warning and time to move or something, so you don't startle them to bite. Snake boots help too. Best not to step over the log (or go poking in the wood pile too). A little kid last year got hit by a big rattler 3 or 4 times when he stepped over a log in the woods in a park around here, I think he was in the hospital for like 3 months, was touch and go for quite some time but he finally made it though has some system degradation. --R On 9/4/13 6:18 PM, Craig wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. Step _on_ the log, not over it is the way I was taught. Then look down and if you see a poisonous snake freeze your movement until the snake crawls away. Carrying a stick is a good idea too. Something to bang around with and long enough to fend off a rabid coon, fox, or skunk. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The true measure of a mountain's greatness is not its height but whether it is charming enough to attract dragons. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Step _on_ the log. That keeps your feet further away from the under-the-log snake habitat. Exactly the opposite of wet woods lore. (Where falling through rotten timber is a risk.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a coupla copperhead skins that are really beautiful. Not sure what to do with them, but I tanned them so they are useful for maybe a hatband or a belt. You could do the same with the rattlers, and I hear they are some tasty eatin on the barbee. --R On 9/3/13 8:11 PM, G Mann wrote: Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten, due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away. Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does not render it safe.. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so.. should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to pick it up cause it's dead... They are also very territorial. If you find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way back within the next month.. When I first took the Ranch, I would capture and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary] so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or vultures eat... nothing goes to waste. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had rattlesnake for dinner when I was a kid camping with my parents in Stoney Fork, PA. I think it was PA. Was good, tender and sweet. I wonder if Grants bat fed mine snakes are anywhere near as tasty. Maybe a new diner named after your ex that only serves bat and blind rattlesnake?? Mike On Sep 4, 2013 9:11 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I have a coupla copperhead skins that are really beautiful. Not sure what to do with them, but I tanned them so they are useful for maybe a hatband or a belt. You could do the same with the rattlers, and I hear they are some tasty eatin on the barbee. --R On 9/3/13 8:11 PM, G Mann wrote: Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten, due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away. Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does not render it safe.. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so.. should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to pick it up cause it's dead... They are also very territorial. If you find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way back within the next month.. When I first took the Ranch, I would capture and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary] so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or vultures eat... nothing goes to waste. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant, Thanks for the offer to put my family to work. Paula Dean is a cousin somehow on my Mom's side. I think she could probably make your menu work. I can see it now. SM theme and a constant recording of Puddle of Mud's She Hates Me playing in the background. I only request free meals to serve folks I don't like in lieu of royalties. Good luck, Mike On Sep 4, 2013 11:55 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Sister of Satan Cafe I can see the franchise possibilities already. However, since she had no culinary talent in the kitchen [along with other lacking talents] one does wonder about the menu selections. In keeping with her cooking talents.. the rattlesnake would be served live. The bats burned and impaled on cactus spikes with a side salad of Cholla bolls [known as the nasty jumping cactus that has thousands of nasty spines the burrow into your skin] Yep .. that should about do it. Wonder if Paula Dean could run the kitchen help? That should about round it out.. Undertaker services instead of wine steward perhaps? After dinner Latte and burial as a menu item.. I like how you're thinking.. ha. Grant... Seriously folks.. enough about me.. can't we go back to bitching about Trent.. or maybe an oil thread.. ;))) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I had rattlesnake for dinner when I was a kid camping with my parents in Stoney Fork, PA. I think it was PA. Was good, tender and sweet. I wonder if Grants bat fed mine snakes are anywhere near as tasty. Maybe a new diner named after your ex that only serves bat and blind rattlesnake?? Mike On Sep 4, 2013 9:11 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I have a coupla copperhead skins that are really beautiful. Not sure what to do with them, but I tanned them so they are useful for maybe a hatband or a belt. You could do the same with the rattlers, and I hear they are some tasty eatin on the barbee. --R On 9/3/13 8:11 PM, G Mann wrote: Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten, due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away. Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does not render it safe.. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so.. should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to pick it up cause it's dead... They are also very territorial. If you find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way back within the next month.. When I first took the Ranch, I would capture and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary] so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or vultures eat... nothing goes to waste. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Many years ago I spent a couple of months in Cameron County, TX (the world's rattlesnake capitol) where I was lucky enough to skin a decent sized rattler. I salted and rolled the skin thinking to make a nice belt from it. Unfortunately my BIL's dog enjoyed it before I had the chance. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes I have a coupla copperhead skins that are really beautiful. Not sure what to do with them, but I tanned them so they are useful for maybe a hatband or a belt. You could do the same with the rattlers, and I hear they are some tasty eatin on the barbee. --R On 9/3/13 8:11 PM, G Mann wrote: Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten, due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away. Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does not render it safe.. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so.. should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to pick it up cause it's dead... They are also very territorial. If you find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way back within the next month.. When I first took the Ranch, I would capture and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary] so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or vultures eat... nothing goes to waste. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:55:27 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously folks.. enough about me.. can't we go back to bitching about Trent.. or maybe an oil thread.. ;))) Well, Grant, we are only interested because your living arangements are most unusual to the rest of us. Some of us would like to live on 36,000 acres, sans the mine shafts and rattlesnakes. And you haven't answered all our questions, like how did you come into your spread? Let's not go back to Trent. We have had enough of that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was indeed born poor. I did walk to school uphill. Although I wore shoes in the winter. I won a card game at age 10.. which gave me ownership in a hay truck.. which, through sweat and hard work, hired helpers and ran a hay operation that paid for flight school and college. That card game investment, developed into other business ventures.. some aviation related, that generated both large investments and large income supplying parts for airliners and business jets repaired by overhaul shops I had a stake in. Other business opportunities were taken, along with attendant risks.. so in effect it was still a poker game... all in, win or lose. Land, Lumber, Livestocks, Materials Equipment, Worldwide. Keep track of that for a while and you wake up tired most days. Success is 90% perspiration, 10% inspiration... 20 hr days and 7 day weeks. No vacations, ever. I bitch about the Sister of Satan ex.. but truth is.. I was never home.. my mistress was business and profit. Women have a short storage shelf life. Being surrounded by acreage may seem exotic... but the attraction to me is it's quiet.. there is no phone to ring 24/7, and I don't have to deal with people. There is no grass to mow, no HOA to fight. Just over friendly rattlesnakes and desert. and taxes.. can't forget those.. Hendrik is writing the screen play.. Gary will play the naked fat biker part, I believe.. Don't have a clue how he will handle the mutant snake thing.. Looks like I'll have the recluse eccentric part pretty well sewed up.. With your kind permission.. this is the part where I kiss my horse and ride into the sunset.. Grant... On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:55:27 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously folks.. enough about me.. can't we go back to bitching about Trent.. or maybe an oil thread.. ;))) Well, Grant, we are only interested because your living arangements are most unusual to the rest of us. Some of us would like to live on 36,000 acres, sans the mine shafts and rattlesnakes. And you haven't answered all our questions, like how did you come into your spread? Let's not go back to Trent. We have had enough of that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 17:51:14 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to be able to see where one will be stepping. she heard it, stopped, and was like OHSH*T and decided she could move faster than a coiled rattler. FAIL. Took her quite some time to recover but she did, I guess that is why she was so worked up about the dog. Yes, that would make one quite worked up about one's dog. I saw an eastern king snake in the driveway a week or two ago when I was going to get the paper, it was coiled up and was Not Happy to see me. I poked at it with a stick and it decided retreat was the best option, but it was shaking its tail. Actually, eastern king snakes appear to be one of the good guys. http://srelherp.uga.edu/snakes/lamget.htm says, Habits: In our region kingsnakes are active almost exclusively by day but are most active in the morning during the summer. They are strong constrictors and consume a variety of prey including snakes, lizards, rodents, birds, and especially turtle eggs. Kingsnakes are resistant to the venom of pit-vipers and they readily eat copperheads, cottonmouths, and rattlesnakes. Although they frequently rattle their tail, release musk, and bite upon capture, they generally tame quickly and are often kept as pets. This species mates in the spring and males bite the neck of females while mating. Females lay 3-24 eggs under debris or in rotting logs in early summer and eggs hatch in August-September. From the pictures on the page, they are quite pretty. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Eastern rattlesnakes are on the threatened and endangered species list so you'd best leave them alone. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:55:27 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously folks.. enough about me.. can't we go back to bitching about Trent.. or maybe an oil thread.. ;))) Well, Grant, we are only interested because your living arangements are most unusual to the rest of us. Some of us would like to live on 36,000 acres, sans the mine shafts and rattlesnakes. And you haven't answered all our questions, like how did you come into your spread? Let's not go back to Trent. We have had enough of that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sister of Satan Cafe I can see the franchise possibilities already. However, since she had no culinary talent in the kitchen [along with other lacking talents] one does wonder about the menu selections. In keeping with her cooking talents.. the rattlesnake would be served live. The bats burned and impaled on cactus spikes with a side salad of Cholla bolls [known as the nasty jumping cactus that has thousands of nasty spines the burrow into your skin] Yep .. that should about do it. Wonder if Paula Dean could run the kitchen help? That should about round it out.. Undertaker services instead of wine steward perhaps? After dinner Latte and burial as a menu item.. I like how you're thinking.. ha. Grant... Seriously folks.. enough about me.. can't we go back to bitching about Trent.. or maybe an oil thread.. ;))) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: I had rattlesnake for dinner when I was a kid camping with my parents in Stoney Fork, PA. I think it was PA. Was good, tender and sweet. I wonder if Grants bat fed mine snakes are anywhere near as tasty. Maybe a new diner named after your ex that only serves bat and blind rattlesnake?? Mike On Sep 4, 2013 9:11 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I have a coupla copperhead skins that are really beautiful. Not sure what to do with them, but I tanned them so they are useful for maybe a hatband or a belt. You could do the same with the rattlers, and I hear they are some tasty eatin on the barbee. --R On 9/3/13 8:11 PM, G Mann wrote: Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten, due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away. Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does not render it safe.. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so.. should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to pick it up cause it's dead... They are also very territorial. If you find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way back within the next month.. When I first took the Ranch, I would capture and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary] so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or vultures eat... nothing goes to waste. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think there might be plenty in the immediate area. You are welcome to come inspect. A guy I know on Wadmalaw had his dog bit a few weeks back and had to fly it to Raleigh or Chapel Hill to get antivenom (or venin, I can never remember that word). He flew the dog up there in his jet at his wife's insistence. His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO), she heard it, stopped, and was like OHSH*T and decided she could move faster than a coiled rattler. FAIL. Took her quite some time to recover but she did, I guess that is why she was so worked up about the dog. I have curtailed my woodland rambles this summer because of all the rain has apparently got the snakes energized. I saw an eastern king snake in the driveway a week or two ago when I was going to get the paper, it was coiled up and was Not Happy to see me. I poked at it with a stick and it decided retreat was the best option, but it was shaking its tail. --R On 9/4/13 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Eastern rattlesnakes are on the threatened and endangered species list so you'd best leave them alone. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:55:27 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously folks.. enough about me.. can't we go back to bitching about Trent.. or maybe an oil thread.. ;))) Well, Grant, we are only interested because your living arangements are most unusual to the rest of us. Some of us would like to live on 36,000 acres, sans the mine shafts and rattlesnakes. And you haven't answered all our questions, like how did you come into your spread? Let's not go back to Trent. We have had enough of that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
