Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-06 Thread Zoltan Finks
I see that last night on Conan both he and his guest Tim Gunn, of all
people, acknowledged that she was attractive. I also heard that she
was runner up Ms. Alaska?
She could stand to lose a bit of junk from the trunk, but still.

Also heard someone on TV mention a thought I had
previously about the whole naughty librarian look she sports.

Also, you know who would do an excellent impression of her? Anna
Gasteyer formerly of Saturday Night Live.

Brian

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I already made that comment on Banned.  It's the whole sports
 star/beauty queen thing that I like

 Luther

 Zoltan Finks wrote:
  Not sure if political talk is still allowed here, but does anyone else
 find
  Palin to be pretty hot?
  Maybe Ive looked at Hillary too long.
 
  Brian
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-06 Thread Wonko the Sane
And not Tina Fey?

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/video/070730/tina_fey2.jpg
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/photos/Gov-Palin-2006_web.jpg

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 Also, you know who would do an excellent impression of her? Anna
 Gasteyer formerly of Saturday Night Live.

 Brian




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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-06 Thread Zoltan Finks
Actually yeah, Fey would.
But I really think Gasteyer would be perfect for it. I bet SNL will
have Fey do it, (does she do things like that? Or is she above it
now?). But a guest appearance from Gasteyer would be choice.

Anyway, I dont think Palen will still be in the news much beyond
November, sadly.

Brian

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And not Tina Fey?

 http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/video/070730/tina_fey2.jpg
 http://www.gov.state.ak.us/photos/Gov-Palin-2006_web.jpg

 On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
 
  Also, you know who would do an excellent impression of her? Anna
  Gasteyer formerly of Saturday Night Live.
 
  Brian
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-05 Thread Luther
Yes, I already made that comment on Banned.  It's the whole sports 
star/beauty queen thing that I like

Luther

Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Not sure if political talk is still allowed here, but does anyone else find
 Palin to be pretty hot?
 Maybe Ive looked at Hillary too long.

 Brian
   


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Ya know I was kinda thinkin that too. I did a google images search and 
found one of her on a Harley in a kind of daring skirt

She's not all that much older than I am. The 5 kids thing kind of bothers me, 
makes me know she'll be pushing for breeders rights which I'm not so sure I'm 
excited about but thats a whole different issue.

-Curt

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Not sure if political talk is still allowed here, but does anyone else find
Palin to be pretty hot?
Maybe Ive looked at Hillary too long.

Brian


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Not sure if political talk is still allowed here, but does anyone else find
 Palin to be pretty hot?

She's a couple of months younger than me, probably graduated HS the same year I 
did. We had a class reunion last year, and she'd definitely be in the top five 
there.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote:
 The 5 kids thing kind of bothers me, makes me know she'll be pushing for 
 breeders rights 

Watcha talkin' about Curtis?
She's very much into the anti-abortion scene, if that's what you're getting at.

She's against taxes and against gov't subsidies, I don't know how that will 
play 
out when it comes to tax subsidy issues like child tax credits.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax credits. 
Why should I pay for others to have kids?


--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:29 AM

Curt Raymond wrote:
 The 5 kids thing kind of bothers me, makes me know she'll be pushing
for breeders rights 

Watcha talkin' about Curtis?
She's very much into the anti-abortion scene, if that's what you're
getting at.

She's against taxes and against gov't subsidies, I don't know how
that will play 
out when it comes to tax subsidy issues like child tax credits.

Mitch.




  
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread pm7088

 -- Original message --
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax credits. 
 Why 
 should I pay for others to have kids?
 

Did your parents receive those same tax credits for you?  I'm betting they did.
Our society for many years has understood that raising children is expensive 
and it is a good and moral thing to subsidize those expenses.
If you disagree, you should work in the system to change it.

Pete


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
But if people want kids so bad shouldn't they be able to afford it first?

If I don't want kids why can't everybody else subsidize my dog? I've got to pay 
for the brats in the neighbor hood to go to school so they can grow up to be 
drug dealers and prostitutes why can't I get paid for Buster to go to doggie 
daycare?

We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is pushing up 
the price for everything, how does it make any sense to subsidize an increase 
in that problem?

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:14 AM

 -- Original message --
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax
credits. Why 
 should I pay for others to have kids?
 

Did your parents receive those same tax credits for you?  I'm betting they
did.
Our society for many years has understood that raising children is expensive
and it is a good and moral thing to subsidize those expenses.
If you disagree, you should work in the system to change it.

Pete




  
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote:
 We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is
 pushing up the price for everything, how does it make any sense to
 subsidize an increase in that problem?

I'm not a big fan of subsidizing kids, but there are two things I think 
mostly justify it.  If you *do* produce a kid, it does need to be taken 
care of since the kid had no choice in the matter. Also, on the whole, 
we don't have an overpopulation problem in the US.  This is ignoring the 
whole welfare argument I'm sure will be brought up shortly.  IMO, thats 
a different problem.

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread kaleb
yea, I do

 Not sure if political talk is still allowed here, but does anyone else
 find
 Palin to be pretty hot?
 Maybe Ive looked at Hillary too long.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I'm keepin away from the welfare argument completely.

In fact I'm a little annoyed with myself, I'd made a load of on topic posts and 
I'm backsliding...

One last thing though, I'd prefer to vote a Palin/McCain ticket than 
McCain/Palin. That said I'd really prefer a Ron Paul/Palin ticket

-Curt

Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:37:17 -0500
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Curt Raymond wrote:
 We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is
 pushing up the price for everything, how does it make any sense to
 subsidize an increase in that problem?

I'm not a big fan of subsidizing kids, but there are two things I think 
mostly justify it.  If you *do* produce a kid, it does need to be taken 
care of since the kid had no choice in the matter. Also, on the whole, 
we don't have an overpopulation problem in the US.  This is ignoring the 
whole welfare argument I'm sure will be brought up shortly.  IMO, thats 
a different problem.

John


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
Dont get me started.
We pay so stinkin much for other peoples kids and we dont really plan to
have any. Which by the way makes us generally less important you know.

Brian

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax
 credits. Why should I pay for others to have kids?


 --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:29 AM

 Curt Raymond wrote:
  The 5 kids thing kind of bothers me, makes me know she'll be pushing
 for breeders rights

 Watcha talkin' about Curtis?
 She's very much into the anti-abortion scene, if that's what you're
 getting at.

 She's against taxes and against gov't subsidies, I don't know how
 that will play
 out when it comes to tax subsidy issues like child tax credits.

 Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP - public assistance

2008-09-04 Thread Bill R
Curt - there is some of that and it irritates all of us.  I have not seen
the statistics for a few years, but the AVERAGE recipient of welfare is on
for less than a year.  What about a woman with kids who is deserted by her
spouse? The income possibilities for many of them is not enough to pay for
child care.  Here in Jacksonville they can get onto the waiting list for
publically funded childcare, but they have to be employed fuLL time for two
years to get on the list.  Or the working spouse becomes ill [#1 cause of
bankruptcy in the US, I think] and they lose their home and source of income
and health insurance? When you look at the leakers all of us want to get rid
of them [my wife used to offer a job to every young male applicant on
welfare - and pretty soon her applicant rate was cut by a large percentage
[that was 30 year ago, so I don't' remember how much].  The problem is
always the leakers who work the system.  Do we further hurt the ones who
really can't help where they are and want to get out, or have a system with
some loopholes worked by the fakers?  It isn't a perfect system by any
means.  It would take a lot more than any of us want to pay to make it very
much better.  
BillR  

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

But if people want kids so bad shouldn't they be able to afford it first?

If I don't want kids why can't everybody else subsidize my dog? I've got to
pay for the brats in the neighbor hood to go to school so they can grow up
to be drug dealers and prostitutes why can't I get paid for Buster to go to
doggie daycare?

We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is pushing
up the price for everything, how does it make any sense to subsidize an
increase in that problem?

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:14 AM

 -- Original message --
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax
credits. Why 
 should I pay for others to have kids?
 

Did your parents receive those same tax credits for you?  I'm betting they
did.
Our society for many years has understood that raising children is expensive
and it is a good and moral thing to subsidize those expenses.
If you disagree, you should work in the system to change it.

Pete




  
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP - public assistance

2008-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
As I said in my other post I'm not talking about welfare at all, I'm talking 
about child tax credits, public schools, after school programs, lunch programs, 
playgrounds and so on.

But overall Gary's right, given the choice I'd prefer to pay for kids than 
killing

-Curt

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP - public assistance
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 5:02 PM

Curt - there is some of that and it irritates all of us.  I have not seen
the statistics for a few years, but the AVERAGE recipient of welfare is on
for less than a year.  What about a woman with kids who is deserted by her
spouse? The income possibilities for many of them is not enough to pay for
child care.  Here in Jacksonville they can get onto the waiting list for
publically funded childcare, but they have to be employed fuLL time for two
years to get on the list.  Or the working spouse becomes ill [#1 cause of
bankruptcy in the US, I think] and they lose their home and source of income
and health insurance? When you look at the leakers all of us want to get rid
of them [my wife used to offer a job to every young male applicant on
welfare - and pretty soon her applicant rate was cut by a large percentage
[that was 30 year ago, so I don't' remember how much].  The problem is
always the leakers who work the system.  Do we further hurt the ones who
really can't help where they are and want to get out, or have a system with
some loopholes worked by the fakers?  It isn't a perfect system by any
means.  It would take a lot more than any of us want to pay to make it very
much better.  
BillR  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:31 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

But if people want kids so bad shouldn't they be able to afford it first?

If I don't want kids why can't everybody else subsidize my dog?
I've got to
pay for the brats in the neighbor hood to go to school so they can grow up
to be drug dealers and prostitutes why can't I get paid for Buster to go to
doggie daycare?

We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is pushing
up the price for everything, how does it make any sense to subsidize an
increase in that problem?

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:14 AM

 -- Original message --
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax
credits. Why 
 should I pay for others to have kids?
 

Did your parents receive those same tax credits for you?  I'm betting they
did.
Our society for many years has understood that raising children is expensive
and it is a good and moral thing to subsidize those expenses.
If you disagree, you should work in the system to change it.

Pete




  
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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP - world population

2008-09-04 Thread Bill R
The estimate of the terminal population of the earth is 17 billion, though
reaching the point at which births and deaths balance might not be possible
with the planet's resources.  ZPG today would result in another couple of
billion population due to the high number of children in third world
countries.  We are at a point now when every person on earth would fit into
the state of Texas with a bit over 1,000 sq ft each [I haven't done the math
in several years, but that should be about right today], with the rest of
the planet empty.  It isn't total population but a poor distribution pattern
and bad waste disposal and inadequate water and food distribution.  I don't
know - perhaps that is the same thing, except when you look at it like that
it does provide some perspective on being able to do something about it.  If
China can hit near ZPG - I'd have never believed it, though I am not crazy
about their methods - the rest of us should be able to tackle the problems
we have.  My 2 cents.
BillR

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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:37 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

Curt Raymond wrote:
 We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is
 pushing up the price for everything, how does it make any sense to
 subsidize an increase in that problem?

I'm not a big fan of subsidizing kids, but there are two things I think 
mostly justify it.  If you *do* produce a kid, it does need to be taken 
care of since the kid had no choice in the matter. Also, on the whole, 
we don't have an overpopulation problem in the US.  This is ignoring the 
whole welfare argument I'm sure will be brought up shortly.  IMO, thats 
a different problem.

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP

2008-09-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
Cause otherwise people won't have kids and there won't be anyone to wipe 
your bottom when you are in a nursing home. Of course plan B is to 
import workers but then you probably don't like that idea either.
More seriously though, the notion of subsidizing having kids is a 
example of a modern society, which recognizes that women give up 
work/financial independence to have children. This puts them at a 
financial disadvantage. You have to imagine what would the situation be 
if men did the child popping out thingy? I dare say the tax credits 
would be a lot higher and there would be 5 years of fully paid maternity 
leave and a truckload of other goodies for the expecting daddy.
Look I don't particularly like having my taxes go to wasters who are a 
burden on society but I don't consider the future generation to be in 
this category. We have to face up to the fact that the first world birth 
rate is declining because of changes in the structure of society.

Hendrik
who gets money from the government for the kids and no it doesn't get 
wasted on drugs, booze or gambling

Curt Raymond wrote:
 Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax credits. 
 Why should I pay for others to have kids?

   
   

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