Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
Why not just beat down on the side that is too high to begin with? MG mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: By bent, you mean you smashed a flange in towards the other flange? It sounds like you'll need to set up a dial indicator to find the center of the dent and measure the runout, and gradually bend it out with a wedge of some sort, assuming you can do that without bending the other flange out instead...if you go too far then it's big brass hammer taps to bring it back in. If the whole pulley is bent instead of just one flange, it might get a little more interesting, but if you can take it off the mower and use a big brass hammer inboard of the flanges you might get it right. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5HQ1BO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
If you can give me the dimensions, at thew bottom of the groove of both pulleys, the total height of the assembly and the inside diameter of the bore I may have one from a Gravely. Manfred Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Actually, the pulley is a top pulley that connects the top belt to the engine, and a bottom pulley that runs the blades. It is the top pulley that is bent and apparently it is an assembly that appears to cost close to $300. In other words, I really need to try to get this one bent back into closer to flat position. On 9/7/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to replace the belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove blades to sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. Deck hit the floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring loaded to tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and installed it. The thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it broke after about 5 minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I installed it I noticed the top pulley which connects the deck to mower was wobbling. In other words I must have bent it when I dropped it. I mowed a couple of times with it just fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I am assuming the wobble is vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am going to have to pull it apart again. Does anybody have any advice on trying to straighten it out? I am looking for a replacement now but if I can get this one back flat that would best as JD parts tend to be expensive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
For a $300 replacement cost, + NLA [you can't get one] it makes just finding a pulley with the same diameter and belt pitch [distance of the "V" ] it makes sense to have a hub center machined to match the old one that fits the shaft and weld the pulley to the new hub.. "Can't get one, make one" rule. On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 10:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I will have to pull it off and see. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > How is the pulley connected to the shaft? If it's removable, you can > > probably find a similar pulley to replace it with. > > > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 11:51 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> It appears to be an assembly with one on top and one on bottom that > costs > >> $300 but appears it might be NLA > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Is the pulley something special? Might be better to just find a > >> replacement pulley not from JD. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > On 07/09/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to > >> replace the belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove > >> blades to sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. > Deck > >> hit the floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring > >> loaded to tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and > >> installed it. The thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it > >> broke after about 5 minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I > >> installed it I noticed the top pulley which connects the deck to mower > was > >> wobbling. In other words I must have bent it when I dropped it. I > mowed a > >> couple of times with it just fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I > am > >> assuming the wobble is vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am > going > >> to have to pull it apart again. Does anybody have any advice on trying > to > >> straighten it out? I am looking for a replacement now but if I can get > >> this one back flat that would best as JD parts tend to be expensive. > > ___ > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > > are wearing." > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
I will have to pull it off and see. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > How is the pulley connected to the shaft? If it's removable, you can > probably find a similar pulley to replace it with. > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 11:51 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> It appears to be an assembly with one on top and one on bottom that costs >> $300 but appears it might be NLA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Is the pulley something special? Might be better to just find a >> replacement pulley not from JD. >>> >>> Randy >>> On 07/09/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to >> replace the belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove >> blades to sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. Deck >> hit the floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring >> loaded to tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and >> installed it. The thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it >> broke after about 5 minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I >> installed it I noticed the top pulley which connects the deck to mower was >> wobbling. In other words I must have bent it when I dropped it. I mowed a >> couple of times with it just fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I am >> assuming the wobble is vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am going >> to have to pull it apart again. Does anybody have any advice on trying to >> straighten it out? I am looking for a replacement now but if I can get >> this one back flat that would best as JD parts tend to be expensive. ___ >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > are wearing." > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
How is the pulley connected to the shaft? If it's removable, you can probably find a similar pulley to replace it with. On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 11:51 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It appears to be an assembly with one on top and one on bottom that costs > $300 but appears it might be NLA > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Is the pulley something special? Might be better to just find a > replacement pulley not from JD. > > > > Randy > > > >> On 07/09/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >> Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to > replace the belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove > blades to sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. Deck > hit the floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring > loaded to tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and > installed it. The thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it > broke after about 5 minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I > installed it I noticed the top pulley which connects the deck to mower was > wobbling. In other words I must have bent it when I dropped it. I mowed a > couple of times with it just fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I am > assuming the wobble is vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am going > to have to pull it apart again. Does anybody have any advice on trying to > straighten it out? I am looking for a replacement now but if I can get > this one back flat that would best as JD parts tend to be expensive. > >> > >> ___ > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
It appears to be an assembly with one on top and one on bottom that costs $300 but appears it might be NLA Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is the pulley something special? Might be better to just find a replacement > pulley not from JD. > > Randy > >> On 07/09/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to replace the >> belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove blades to >> sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. Deck hit the >> floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring loaded to >> tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and installed it. The >> thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it broke after about 5 >> minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I installed it I noticed the >> top pulley which connects the deck to mower was wobbling. In other words I >> must have bent it when I dropped it. I mowed a couple of times with it just >> fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I am assuming the wobble is >> vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am going to have to pull it apart >> again. Does anybody have any advice on trying to straighten it out? I am >> looking for a replacement now but if I can get this one back flat that would >> best as JD parts tend to be expensive. >> >> ___ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
Is the pulley something special? Might be better to just find a replacement pulley not from JD. Randy On 07/09/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to replace the belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove blades to sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. Deck hit the floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring loaded to tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and installed it. The thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it broke after about 5 minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I installed it I noticed the top pulley which connects the deck to mower was wobbling. In other words I must have bent it when I dropped it. I mowed a couple of times with it just fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I am assuming the wobble is vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am going to have to pull it apart again. Does anybody have any advice on trying to straighten it out? I am looking for a replacement now but if I can get this one back flat that would best as JD parts tend to be expensive. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
While you are doing that, use the broken pot metal piece as a template and make a new one out of steel... On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:15 AM G Mann wrote: > If you can remove the pulley from the assembly, heat is your friend to > massage the bend back to straight... a few minutes with a rosebud torch tip > to heat the flange area, and then a steady pressure [some sort of lever > device you just invented to fit the problem] instead of hammer blows which > are nearly impossible to get just the right pressure and not do other > damage. > "Create the wreck in reverse" gently with heat, carefully applied. > It's amazing what you can do when you are saving a $300 part that nobody > has in stock. > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:42 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> When it dropped and hit the ground I think it bent it from the center >> shaft so it’s no longer in a flat plane but rather tilted. I will have to >> get it off the mower and see what I can do. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 8, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > By bent, you mean you smashed a flange in towards the other flange? >> > >> > It sounds like you'll need to set up a dial indicator to find the >> center of the dent and measure the runout, and gradually bend it out with a >> wedge of some sort, assuming you can do that without bending the other >> flange out instead...if you go too far then it's big brass hammer taps to >> bring it back in. >> > >> > If the whole pulley is bent instead of just one flange, it might get a >> little more interesting, but if you can take it off the mower and use a big >> brass hammer inboard of the flanges you might get it right. >> > >> > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5HQ1BO >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
If you can remove the pulley from the assembly, heat is your friend to massage the bend back to straight... a few minutes with a rosebud torch tip to heat the flange area, and then a steady pressure [some sort of lever device you just invented to fit the problem] instead of hammer blows which are nearly impossible to get just the right pressure and not do other damage. "Create the wreck in reverse" gently with heat, carefully applied. It's amazing what you can do when you are saving a $300 part that nobody has in stock. On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:42 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When it dropped and hit the ground I think it bent it from the center > shaft so it’s no longer in a flat plane but rather tilted. I will have to > get it off the mower and see what I can do. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 8, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > By bent, you mean you smashed a flange in towards the other flange? > > > > It sounds like you'll need to set up a dial indicator to find the center > of the dent and measure the runout, and gradually bend it out with a wedge > of some sort, assuming you can do that without bending the other flange out > instead...if you go too far then it's big brass hammer taps to bring it > back in. > > > > If the whole pulley is bent instead of just one flange, it might get a > little more interesting, but if you can take it off the mower and use a big > brass hammer inboard of the flanges you might get it right. > > > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5HQ1BO > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
When it dropped and hit the ground I think it bent it from the center shaft so it’s no longer in a flat plane but rather tilted. I will have to get it off the mower and see what I can do. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > By bent, you mean you smashed a flange in towards the other flange? > > It sounds like you'll need to set up a dial indicator to find the center of > the dent and measure the runout, and gradually bend it out with a wedge of > some sort, assuming you can do that without bending the other flange out > instead...if you go too far then it's big brass hammer taps to bring it back > in. > > If the whole pulley is bent instead of just one flange, it might get a little > more interesting, but if you can take it off the mower and use a big brass > hammer inboard of the flanges you might get it right. > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5HQ1BO > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
By bent, you mean you smashed a flange in towards the other flange? It sounds like you'll need to set up a dial indicator to find the center of the dent and measure the runout, and gradually bend it out with a wedge of some sort, assuming you can do that without bending the other flange out instead...if you go too far then it's big brass hammer taps to bring it back in. If the whole pulley is bent instead of just one flange, it might get a little more interesting, but if you can take it off the mower and use a big brass hammer inboard of the flanges you might get it right. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5HQ1BO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bent pulley on mower
Actually, the pulley is a top pulley that connects the top belt to the engine, and a bottom pulley that runs the blades. It is the top pulley that is bent and apparently it is an assembly that appears to cost close to $300. In other words, I really need to try to get this one bent back into closer to flat position. On 9/7/2022 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Earlier this summer I removed the deck on my 54" riding mower to replace the belt. I was going to turn mower deck upside down to remove blades to sharpen them while I had it off and ended up dropping it. Deck hit the floor and broke an arm that holds the pulley on which is spring loaded to tighten the belt. I got a replacement arm from ebay and installed it. The thing is basically made out of pot metal. Anyway, it broke after about 5 minutes of mowing. Seller sent new arm but when I installed it I noticed the top pulley which connects the deck to mower was wobbling. In other words I must have bent it when I dropped it. I mowed a couple of times with it just fine and suddenly the arm broke again. I am assuming the wobble is vibrating the arm causing it to break. I am going to have to pull it apart again. Does anybody have any advice on trying to straighten it out? I am looking for a replacement now but if I can get this one back flat that would best as JD parts tend to be expensive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
