sound (audio) problems

2006-08-13 Thread Tom Robinson
I have developed a language program that plays sound files (.wav).  
After I updated to 2.7.3, the sound files would not play. I did not  
modify any script related to the files. The dataPath is set properly  
and the files are stored in the proper folder. If I click on  
individual sound files outside of Revolution, they work fine so the  
audio problem is with Revolution and not with the computer. I have  
reinstalled Revolution but the problem remains. Most strange, the  
sound files in a standalone built months ago for another program no  
longer work. 
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Richmond snorts RR 2.6.1 - Linux Sound

2005-11-06 Thread Mathewson
Wow Baby! That was totally rad!

Downloaded the trial version of RR 2.6.1 for Linux and off
I went - to see what the new AU and AIF capabilities were
like.

A simple stack with a PLAY IT BABY! button containing the
following script:

on mouseUp
  play audioClip BROWN COW.aif
end mouseUp

did not produce my rich, mature, masculine voice saying
'Brown Cow' - but something rather like Mickey Mouse high
on drugs (the mind boggles) saying something like 'Brown
Cow' in a high-pitched eccentric voice.

the same went for an AU version of the same sound file.

Now, the fact that one no longer has to piss around (to
use a technical phrase) with xanim is FANTASTIC! REALLY
FANTASTIC!

NOW, I'm going to buy the latest version of RR for Linux
WHEN it both plays the sound files, and makes me sound like
me . . . 

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Re: Sound screws up in Linux

2005-11-06 Thread Mark Talluto


On Nov 4, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Mathewson wrote:


I suppose the bottom line is that I shall have to have a
very dirty weekend embedding every possible sound
configuration I can think of in a stack on the Mac and them
messing around with it on the Kubuntu PC - although a
little voice tells me that this  is rather inefficient.

I would be extremely grateful for any help in this area.



Hi Richmond,

I have been using .wav file successfully in Linux.  Give those a  
try.  The only problem is that you will have to convert all of your  
sound files to this format.  There are a number of programs on the  
Mac and probably PC that will do all the heavy lifting for you and  
batch process them.



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Sound screws up in Linux

2005-11-05 Thread Mathewson
Having spent some time on the first cycle of my EFL system
development - making the stacks using my licensed version
of Dreamcard - I popped them onto my new PC (PIII, 600
MHz, 128 MB RAM - Kubuntu 5.10) - A BIG THANK YOU TO NOVELL
for FREE RR 2.2.1 - and when I clicked on the button Brown
Cow instead of hearing my growly voice saying Brown Cow
(No rocket science round here - just English for 6 year-old
Bulgarians) I heard something very like a cat being run
over by a truck . . .

Hard science: recorded the sound on a Mac using the Sound
Studio program that came bundled with the 10.2 install -
Mono, 44.000, AIFF

I suspect this is not the right format for Linux, but can
find nothing in either RR or MC documentation.

More rests on this than my poxy little language school as
the resulting programs (standalones) for Linux will be
uploaded to Ubuntu for distribution in Africa (Mind you, I
can't help feeling sorry for the poor Africans having to
put up with my Brown Cows).

I hope, hope, hope that I can get sound to behave in Linux
without resort to the superannuated and crappy xanim. And,
Mike Talluto, as my name is mud in RR circles (!!!) I
cannot get into Bugzilla, etc. and say my piece about movie
files and so forth with RR/MC in Linux.

I suppose the bottom line is that I shall have to have a
very dirty weekend embedding every possible sound
configuration I can think of in a stack on the Mac and them
messing around with it on the Kubuntu PC - although a
little voice tells me that this  is rather inefficient.

I would be extremely grateful for any help in this area.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Sound on Linux and stupid Richmond

2005-11-05 Thread Mathewson
WELL ? ? ?

Is it stupid Richmond or under-documented RR ?

Dunno - leave the question open.

Anyway, Happy Campers - I, accidently discovered that RR
2.2.1 on Linux can only cope with WAV files . . .

And, How did I find this out?

By reading a page on the RunRev site that pointed out that
AU and AIFF support for Linux had been added in RR 2.5

NOW . . . wouldn't it be lovely if one could find these
things out in a simple and painless way . . .

For those of you working with the FREE NOVELL LINUX RR
Distro (for which I am extremely grateful) KNOW NOW that
the only sound format that works is WAV.

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Oh Dear, Linux and Sound - A-A-A-A-GAIN

2005-11-05 Thread Mathewson
More egg-salad with the WAV files.

1. Is the problem that the WAV files are embedded?

1a. This seems unlikely as Kubuntu makes a hash of the same
WAV files when played externally.

2. Whither QUICKTIME 4 LINUX and will this DO THE TRICK ?

3. Under-Documentation.

4. xanim - no, surely not?

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Re: Sound on Linux and stupid Richmond

2005-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:43:55 -0500
Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 For those of you working with the FREE NOVELL 
 LINUX RR Distro (for which I am extremely grateful) 
 KNOW NOW that the only sound format that 
 works is WAV.

Richmond, i noticed that you imply that
NOVELL gives away SUSE LINUX with a licenced 
version of RunRev v 2.2.1  :-O

Which SUSE version are you using that have
RunRev bundled for free?
Is it the Personal, Professional or free
version of SUSE?
Is it the DVD or CD version? :-O

http://www.runrev.com/section/press/36.php

Thanks in advance.

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Re: A problem with sound in Linux

2002-11-11 Thread Alejandro Diaz Infante
On Sunday 10 November 2002 19:22, Scott Rossi wrote:
  I've been noticing that in a good number of soundcards (including mine, a
  SB Live! with OSS driver), using play somesound.au or play audioclip
  somesound.au results a garbled audio output. There's nothing wrong with
  the audio files, and I can even play them perfectly in a console or
  terminal emulator, using xanim somesound.au or play somesound.au. If
  I use the wav format, I got the same result.
 
  Curiously, the only way I had found to play correctly those files in
  MetaCard is using something like start player somesound.
 
  Does somebody know why the play command does not work well in MetaCard
  with some soundcards, even though 'xanim' is up and running? Is there a
  way to solve it without having to create a player for each audio file?

 You might try checking the sample rates of the problem files.  MC's
 built-in playback favors standard sampling rates of 11k, 22k and 44k, at
 8 and 16 bits.  Also, playback seems to be even more finicky when it comes
 to .au formatted sounds.  I don't have any specific recipes for problems,
 but apparently it is unusual to have a 16 bit, 22k .au file, and MC will
 often not be able to handle it.


Thank you.

I have the sound files in standard sampling rates. The au files are 11Hz, 8 
bits, the wav files (which are not part of my program, used just for testing) 
are 22Hz, 16 bits. 'play' output is a garbled sound in both cases.

 The reason a player can handle these sounds is because (as I understand it)
 player objects hand off playback to the multimedia resources of the host
 system (QuickTime, Window Media Player, etc) and these technologies are
 much more forgiving of varying sampling rates/bit depths.


Ummmh. I had seen the 'play' problem only in some soundcards (there are others 
that handle those sound files very well). How could we know the source of the 
problem? is it the way metacard handle sound? 

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director

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Sound

2002-10-06 Thread Michael Crawford
Title: Sound




Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1):
I want to record some voice to a file and then play it.
This is what I have so far:

record sound file x
stop recording
start player 1

but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some
recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in
general.
Also, can I record to a variable instead of file?
I wish the archive had a search engine...

Regards, Andu Novac




There is an article about this at the sons of thunder
website:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/index2.htm


Which describes almost exactly the sort of problems you are
having and a potential solution.


This is quoted below:


 I've
wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound
 recording working. So before I try again with the latest version
of MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it?

Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3. It's a major hack internally,
though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD
quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output the
type of file requested).

 I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on
my
 windows.

Be sure you're recording to a format that play audioClip
understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT
can produce. If you must play those, use play videoClip
file instead. That uses QT, which although much slower
and more memory intensive can play many more formats than the default
play command which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS
which don't support compression.

Posted 9/2/2002
by Scott Raney to the MetaCard List



Michael




Re: Sound

2002-10-06 Thread andu



--On Monday, October 07, 2002 11:19:27 +1300 Michael Crawford 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 There  is an article about this at the sons of thunder website:

 http://www.sonsothunder.com/index2.htm


 Which describes almost exactly the sort of problems you are having and a
 potential solution.

snip

Thanks.


 Michael




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Re: Sound

2002-10-06 Thread Ken Ray

Actually, you can go right to the tip at:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/metacard.htm?aud002

Enjoy!

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- Original Message - 
From: Michael Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: Sound


 
 
 Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1):
 I want to record some voice to a file and then play it.
 This is what I have so far:
 
 record sound file x
 stop recording
 start player 1
 
 but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some
 recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general.
 Also, can I record to a variable instead of file?
 I wish the archive had a search engine...
 
 Regards, Andu Novac
 
 
 
 
 There  is an article about this at the sons of thunder website:
 
 http://www.sonsothunder.com/index2.htm
 
 
 Which describes almost exactly the sort of problems you are having 
 and a potential solution.
 
 
 This is quoted below:
 
 
  I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound
   recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of 
 MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it?
 
 Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3. It's a major hack internally, 
 though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD 
 quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output 
 the type of file requested).
 
   I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my
   windows.
 
 Be sure you're recording to a format that play audioClip 
 understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT 
 can produce. If you must play those, use play videoClip file 
 instead. That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory 
 intensive can play many more formats than the default play command 
 which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't 
 support compression.
 
 Posted 9/2/2002 by Scott Raney to the MetaCard List 
 
 
 
 Michael
 
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sound

2002-10-05 Thread andu

Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1):
I want to record some voice to a file and then play it.
This is what I have so far:

record sound file x
stop recording
start player 1

but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some 
recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general.
Also, can I record to a variable instead of file?
I wish the archive had a search engine...

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Re: sound

2002-10-05 Thread Phil Davis

I thought the archive does have a search feature:

  
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=metacard_lists_runrev_comrestrict=exclude=words=record+playback

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: andu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: sound


 Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1):
 I want to record some voice to a file and then play it.
 This is what I have so far:
 
 record sound file x
 stop recording
 start player 1
 
 but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some 
 recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general.
 Also, can I record to a variable instead of file?
 I wish the archive had a search engine...
 
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Re: sound

2002-10-05 Thread kweto



Sorry, can't advise about sound, but...

 I wish the archive had a search engine...

The archive_s_do. These are the urls for the two 
archives I know of:

(new archive) 
http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.runrev.com/

(old archive)
http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/

Cheers.

Nicolas Cueto


Re: sound

2002-10-05 Thread erik hansen

andu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:I wish the archive had a search engine...
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Re: sound

2002-10-05 Thread andu



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  andu wrote:
 I wish the archive had a search engine...

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 it does.

I found that out eventually but... the link at the bottom of list mails,
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard;, points to a page where 
there is no mention of a search function. That one is on the metacard site 
and it points to xworlds.com/... which in turn has the correct links for 
searchable archive... unless I'm getting blind.



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Recording sound on Win32 w/o QuickTime

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas McCarthy


I've gotten a lot of ideas, examples and help from the list and I figure it's my turn 
to contribute something.

I have a stack for recording .wav files on Win32 using MCIsendString (so you don't 
need Quicktime!)

You can grab it here:

http://perlingua.50megs.com/MCI_record.zip

Cheers
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Re: Sound Recording

2002-09-03 Thread Ray Horsley

on 9/2/02 1:04 PM, Scott Raney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound
 recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of
 MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it?
 
 Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3.  It's a major hack internally,
 though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD
 quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output the
 type of file requested).
 
 I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my
 windows.
 
 Be sure you're recording to a format that play audioClip
 understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT
 can produce.  If you must play those, use play videoClip file
 instead.  That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory
 intensive can play many more formats than the default play command
 which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't
 support compression.
 Regards
 Scott

I'm using Metacard 2.4.3, System 8.6 on a Mac Powerbook G3 and I'm still
getting chipmunks when I play back the sounds I record.  The easiest
solution I've found is to simply record sounds in AudioShop or something and
save them as WAVE files which play at normal speed.

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Sound Recording

2002-09-02 Thread Thomas McCarthy


I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound recording working. 
So before I try again with the latest version of MetaCard, has anyone had any success 
with it?

I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my windows.

My workaround so far is to use SendMCIstring on Windows and the external from RunRev 
on my Mac. But I'd rather have the same code for both platforms.

Thanks,
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Re: Sound Recording

2002-09-02 Thread Signe Marie Sanne

I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound 
recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of 
MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it?

No, nor have I. I've been told there is a bug in QuickTime (I have 
not tried the most recent version of it.)


I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my windows.

My workaround so far is to use SendMCIstring on Windows and the 
external from RunRev on my Mac. But I'd rather have the same code 
for both platforms.

Thanks,
Tom

Another workaround is:

   if the platform = win32 then
 get queryRegistry(hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\)
 put word 1 to -2 of it into lyd
 launch lyd
   end if

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Re: Sound Recording

2002-09-02 Thread Shari

If you're trying to record from within Metacard, and it has to be 
from within Metacard, no ideas.

If you're just trying to record to import into Metacard, I just use 
an empty stack, lauch ResEdit, open the sound resource, and record 
via ResEdit.  It creates a sound resource that I can then open from a 
sound editing program and clean up the pauses before and aft, and 
then save it to a .wav file to import.

A lot of steps, but it does work.  And without all the static and squeals.

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Re: Sound Recording

2002-09-02 Thread Scott Raney

On Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound
 recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of
 MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it?

Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3.  It's a major hack internally,
though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD
quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output the
type of file requested).

 I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my
 windows.

Be sure you're recording to a format that play audioClip
understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT
can produce.  If you must play those, use play videoClip file
instead.  That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory
intensive can play many more formats than the default play command
which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't
support compression.
  Regards
Scott


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Re: record sound bug?

2001-12-13 Thread Signe Marie Sanne

On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote:

There used to be a send bug reports to. on this mailing 
list...but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyway, back to the old 
record sound saga...

It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've 
been forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks 
before this) but I can only get it to work well when using the 
with dialog command...eg.
ask file what
record sound IT with dialog

This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 
'recordFormats()' options, and there are quite a few that sound 
really good on a Mac (OS 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little 
memory space as well.  Unfortunately, if you try to record directly 
in these formats, without going through the dialog, it doesn't 
sound good anymore. Moreover, the quality level makes no 
difference.  e.g.

record sound file it as fl64 with best quality

sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) 
recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear.  I suspect 
the culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect 
in the direct (non dialog) script.  I suspect that the dialog is 
recording as 'best' but not the direct script.  I wish I could see 
what the 'sound settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I 
can't find it.  I've tried putting quotes around the quality in the 
direct script (e.g with best quality), but the
compiler will not accept this.

In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any 
format which sounds really good on the Mac?  Or is there something 
broken here that might ought to be fixed (my opinion).  I don't 
want to have to go through the dialog each time.

Thanks!

mark mitchell


IMHO, something is wrong.  I can get it to record, but it is only in 
the Qualcomm PureVoice,Qclp.  This one records very clearly.  My 
only problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound 
and sometime it does.  Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the 
end of the recorded sound.  When I can get around to understanding 
it more, I will bug report it more clearly to Scott.

I use the following script in a record button:
   record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound file

Stop button:
   stop recording

I would be interested to know if this happens for you.  Have only 
done most of my testing on OS 10

-Mark Talluto


I am able to record (with dialog) on Mac at 22.050 kHz and on Windows 
at 44.100. However, I would also get rid of the dialog, and have 
chosen the PC inbuilt sound panel:
  put word 1 to -2 of 
queryRegistry(hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\) 
into tRecorder
launch tRecorder

On Mac I have found that the corresponding panel is called Apple 
Simple Sound Record Dialog, but I do not know how to open it from 
within MC. I'm sure someone must have the right recipe, either using 
GURLGURL, open process, or launch or something, or an Apple Event. 
I'm eagerly looking forward to suggestions. Thanks in advance.
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Re: record sound bug

2001-12-13 Thread cowhead
 amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne wrote:

 On Mac I have found that the corresponding panel is called "Apple
 Simple Sound Record Dialog", but I do not know how to open it from
 within MC. I'm sure someone must have the right recipe, either using
 "GURLGURL", open process, or launch or something, or an Apple Event.
 I'm eagerly looking forward to suggestions. Thanks in advance.
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You can launch the application "simpleSound" if it is present on the system, but you 
must then specify "new sound", record the sound, then specify the name and place to 
save it.  i.e.  it is fairly labor intensive.  So, instead, I have used a dedicated 
supercard stack which I can then pass all this info on to with a simple copy paste 
into a supercard field.  I can then launch this supercard stack each time from 
metacard and use this to access the apple record dialog.  After using this dialog, it 
does not ask
you to specify the file name and location, as the simple sound dialog does.  I do not 
know if that means it is actually a different dialog, or if that asking behaviour 
comes from the application 'simplesound'.  But you are right, it would be nice if we 
could access the same dialog direct from metacard.  If supercard can do it, surely 
metacard can too.  The dialog is nice as it allows multiple recordings and playbacks 
before one actually commits to saving anything as a file on the HD.  This is, as it 
turns
out, often crucial.

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Re: record sound bug?

2001-12-12 Thread fuegox


On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote:

 There used to be a send bug reports to. on this mailing 
 list...but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyway, back to the old 
 record sound saga...

 It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've been 
 forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks before 
 this) but I can only get it to work well when using the with dialog 
 command...eg.
 ask file what
 record sound IT with dialog

 This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 'recordFormats()' 
 options, and there are quite a few that sound really good on a Mac (OS 
 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little memory space as well.  
 Unfortunately, if you try to record directly in these formats, without 
 going through the dialog, it doesn't sound good anymore. Moreover, the 
 quality level makes no difference.  e.g.

 record sound file it as fl64 with best quality

 sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) 
 recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear.  I suspect the 
 culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect in the 
 direct (non dialog) script.  I suspect that the dialog is recording as 
 'best' but not the direct script.  I wish I could see what the 'sound 
 settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I can't find it.  I've 
 tried putting quotes around the quality in the direct script (e.g with 
 best quality), but the
 compiler will not accept this.

 In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any format 
 which sounds really good on the Mac?  Or is there something broken here 
 that might ought to be fixed (my opinion).  I don't want to have to go 
 through the dialog each time.

 Thanks!

 mark mitchell


IMHO, something is wrong.  I can get it to record, but it is only in the 
Qualcomm PureVoice™,Qclp.  This one records very clearly.  My only 
problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound and 
sometime it does.  Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the end of 
the recorded sound.  When I can get around to understanding it more, I 
will bug report it more clearly to Scott.

I use the following script in a record button:
   record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound 
file

Stop button:
   stop recording

I would be interested to know if this happens for you.  Have only done 
most of my testing on OS 10

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Sound recording

2001-12-10 Thread Signe Marie Sanne

In case someone else did not know it (it took me quite some time to 
find it out), you can launch the sound recording panel on Windows 
with the following command:

  put word 1 to -2 of 
queryRegistry(hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\) 
into tRecorder
launch tRecorder

I have not been able to find the equivalent on Mac, would be grateful 
for a recipe. Thanks in advance.

Regards
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re: recording sound

2001-11-26 Thread Signe Marie Sanne

  On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either
ulaw, ima4 or mace 3:1 chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050
khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as
mysound.mov) record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to
record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance.

44khz works fine here. QT  5 seems to be some kind of screwed with 22khz.

Tuviah

Thanks a lot, I have now got it to work on PC, but on repeated 
recordings it seems to refuse to record (I have just tried out Mac3 
+ 44.100 kHz) on Windows 2000.

Since it now is possible to script the compression (record ... as 
ulaw/ima4/mac3 etc) would it be possible to script the rate? (For 
instance: if the platform = macos then set the rate to 22.050 or if 
the platform = win32 then set the rate to 44.100)

As I have mentioned earlier I would also like to be able to launch 
the small built-in panel Sound - sound recording (if this is the 
name in English, I have just my Norwegian names). When I search for 
it, I just see 3 aliases. The students shall record short sound 
strings which they can listen to and compare them to a model voice. 
This means there is no need to save the sound to disk if they can use 
the panel instead. I have no experience with open process.. or 
queryRegistry so far if that's the way to go. Any suggestions?
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re: recording sound

2001-11-22 Thread diskot123

On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either 
ulaw, ima4 or mace 3:1 chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 
khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as 
mysound.mov) record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to 
record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance.

44khz works fine here. QT  5 seems to be some kind of screwed with 22khz.

Tuviah

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Re: Recording sound

2001-11-21 Thread Signe Marie Sanne

On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 06:04 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote:

Hello to all,

Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 -
I have struggled with Tuvias stack RecordSound from which I have taken:

  record sound lydfil with dialog
   put the seconds into nsecs
   repeat while recording is true
 wait for 0.20 seconds with messages
 set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness()
   end repeat
   put recorded for the seconds - nsecsseconds

On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either 
ulaw, ima4 or mace 3:1 chosen in the dialog box and with 
22.050 khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as 
mysound.mov) record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to 
record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance.


Have you tried the built-in sound recording feature in 2.4 and 
2.4.1?  While  I have yet to try it on the PC, I have used it with 
great success on the Mac.  You should download the latest version of 
2.4.1 while you are at it.

Sorry, just a typo, I'm using the very new version MC2.4.1 build 4 
(from 17th Nov). So back to my questions...

Has anyone got the recording to work on a PC? (I'm on Win2000) With 
what compression? and which khz? Which extension for the recorded 
sound? I have just tried .mov which I saw in a posting, what about 
.aif, .au or .wav? Does each of them correspond to a particular 
compression? Sorry for my ignorance.

I was also wondering about trying to launch the PC built-in sound 
recording panel (which I usually use to record my voice on PC, but 
outside MetaCard), but I do not know how to launch the panel from 
within PC, and I was hoping MC's new recording capability would make 
this unnecessary (as it actually has on Mac). My aim is to let 
students record their own voice, listen to it and compare it to a 
model voice.  Suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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Recording sound

2001-11-20 Thread Signe Marie Sanne


Hello to all,

Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 -
I have struggled with Tuvias stack RecordSound from which I have taken:

  record sound lydfil with dialog
   put the seconds into nsecs
   repeat while recording is true
 wait for 0.20 seconds with messages
 set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness()
   end repeat
   put recorded for the seconds - nsecsseconds

On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either 
ulaw, ima4 or mace 3:1 chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 
khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as 
mysound.mov) record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to 
record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Recording sound

2001-11-20 Thread fuegox


On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 06:04 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote:

 Hello to all,

 Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 -
 I have struggled with Tuvias stack RecordSound from which I have 
 taken:

  record sound lydfil with dialog
   put the seconds into nsecs
   repeat while recording is true
 wait for 0.20 seconds with messages
 set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness()
   end repeat
   put recorded for the seconds - nsecsseconds

 On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either 
 ulaw, ima4 or mace 3:1 chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 
 khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as mysound.mov) 
 record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to record on PC, 
 please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance.


Have you tried the built-in sound recording feature in 2.4 and 2.4.1?  
While  I have yet to try it on the PC, I have used it with great success 
on the Mac.  You should download the latest version of 2.4.1 while you 
are at it.

I have a fast mirror of all the MC files at:  
www.clearsoftware.com/mcmirror.html

-Mark Talluto


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Sound recording on a Mac?

2001-07-16 Thread Dennie S Hoopingarner

I have managed to work around the half-speed playback of sounds recorded in
Metacard (scrip to record with dialog).  My question is this: is it possible
to script the sample rate to 32 kHz instead of forcing the user to make the
selection in the dialog box? I can't find any reference in the documentation to
setting this parameter, and so I appeal to the gurus out there...

Thanks!

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record sound. MP3?

2001-06-28 Thread Mark Mitchell
I tried the 'record sound file' command in the new 2.4 beta, but the quality seems 
really bad, with no difference between
'good' , 'better' and 'best'.  The quality is significantly lower than the lowest 
quality of the supercard record sound (6:1
comp, AIFF format).  But what I would really like is to be able to record directly 
(from microphone) into MP3.  Given the
quality and universality and comparative cheapness of MP3 (converting the supercard 
'best' to MP3 cut the memory in half, with
no detectable loss in quality)  it seems silly to be messing with other formats at 
this time.  Does anyone know of a plug-in
that will allow direct recording of MP3 in either hyper, super, or meta card?  I know 
that using N2MP3Pro (commercial MP3
software) you can directly record from microphone to MP3, but I don't want the hassle 
of having to use a second application in
conjunction with my meta-card project.

thanks,

mark mitchell


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OT: Recording sound--quality issues

2001-06-21 Thread Sivakatirswami

We record a lot of sound and have used DAT tapes, but, in the interests of
trying to simplify hardware configurations (decks, amps plugs, cords) and
the time required to pass sound from DAT tapes to digital formats, (mpg) we
are working to record directly into our MACs in many contexts. With this
ability being on board in 2.4, direct input becomes even more enticing:

problem:  the background hiss/hum that seems to always get added to the
sound when it is recorded directly into a MAC...

We are using high quality microphones and the mic is held enough away from
the computer that the sound of the spinning of the hard drive can't be
implicated and there is a worry that possibly the internal hardware of the
MAC is actually adding this to the soundif I take the same mic and put
it into a DAT machine in the exact same spot... no background hum...so it is
definitely computer added.

If anyone knows about these issues and solutions,  perhaps you could email
me off list? Thanks

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RE: Sound recording beta bug?

2001-06-12 Thread Monte Goulding

Or even better create two folders in your MetaCard folder. Stable and
Latest. Then just put the 2.4 engine and tools in the latest folder and move
the 2.3.2 engine and tools into the stable folder. You can now use the same
Home and Help stacks for different versions.


 You need to put the Mac 2.4 files in with your 2.3.2 files.  They will
 replace the current files of the same name.  So, be careful when doing
 this as you will delete your mctools stack as well as your engines from
 2.3.2.  Make backups if you need them later.  This will make 2.4 work on
 your Mac with all the development tools of 2.3.2.

 -Mark Talluto


 On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 05:22 PM, Mark wrote:

  I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there does
  not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are in the
  ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the
  development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?).

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Re: Sound recording beta bug?

2001-06-12 Thread andu

Mark wrote:
 
 Hi everyone.
 
 I am currently playing around with the 2.4 beta, and have a couple of
 questions regarding sound recording and unusual behaviour.
 
 I have been using Tuvias recordsound example stack to record sounds
 with several settings (including the default settings), but when I
 play back the sounds using the QuickTime Player or Windows Media
 Player (for the formats it can play), the sound is played back at
 what seems roughly half speed.
 
 Using the play c:\sample command to play back the recorded sound
 from within MetaCard is even worse - harsh squeels are emitted from
 the speaker.
 
 Has anyone else had this sort of behaviour from the beta, and can
 anyone suggest a work around? eg., an external equivalent with some
 example 'how to use this' code? (Macintosh or Windows).
 
 I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there
 does not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are
 in the ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the
 development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?).

Don't know about recording sound but you can use the same development
environment with the appropriate engine for all platforms. That is, if
you have the home, tools and help stacks for windows transfer them over
to the mac and use them. You might want to change type/creator to MST
MICR.

 
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Re: Sound recording beta bug?

2001-06-12 Thread Mark



From: Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sound recording beta bug?

You need to put the Mac 2.4 files in with your 2.3.2 files.  They will
replace the current files of the same name.  So, be careful when doing
this as you will delete your mctools stack as well as your engines from
2.3.2.  Make backups if you need them later.  This will make 2.4 work on
your Mac with all the development tools of 2.3.2.

-Mark Talluto



Hmmm...  I tried that but get an error:
Warning: tools stack versiob (2.4B1) does not match engine version 
(2.3), and typing in record mysound in the message box returns no 
permission to send that, group: bad object type, go: error in 
background expression, and move: bad end point expression :-(

Has anyone managed to get the recordsound stack or the record command 
to work on a Macintosh, and if so, would they be willing to share 
their experience? eg., it just worked or here are the 8 steps I 
needed to use :-)

Has anyone managed to get the Windows side working correctly too? 
ie., without the play command making screeches instead of playing the 
sound back, and without Quicktime player/Windows media player playing 
the sounds back at half speed. That might tell me whether I should be 
playing with sound recording on another PC or not :-)

Cheers,
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RE: Sound recording beta bug?

2001-06-12 Thread Monte Goulding


 Hmmm...  I tried that but get an error:
 Warning: tools stack versiob (2.4B1) does not match engine version
 (2.3), and typing in record mysound in the message box returns no
 permission to send that, group: bad object type, go: error in
 background expression, and move: bad end point expression :-(

Well that's the answer. You have replaced the tools stack but not the
engine.


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Sound recording beta bug?

2001-06-11 Thread Mark

Hi everyone.

I am currently playing around with the 2.4 beta, and have a couple of 
questions regarding sound recording and unusual behaviour.

I have been using Tuvias recordsound example stack to record sounds 
with several settings (including the default settings), but when I 
play back the sounds using the QuickTime Player or Windows Media 
Player (for the formats it can play), the sound is played back at 
what seems roughly half speed.

Using the play c:\sample command to play back the recorded sound 
from within MetaCard is even worse - harsh squeels are emitted from 
the speaker.

Has anyone else had this sort of behaviour from the beta, and can 
anyone suggest a work around? eg., an external equivalent with some 
example 'how to use this' code? (Macintosh or Windows).

I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there 
does not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are 
in the ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the 
development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?).


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Re: Sound recording beta bug?

2001-06-11 Thread Mark Talluto

You need to put the Mac 2.4 files in with your 2.3.2 files.  They will 
replace the current files of the same name.  So, be careful when doing 
this as you will delete your mctools stack as well as your engines from 
2.3.2.  Make backups if you need them later.  This will make 2.4 work on 
your Mac with all the development tools of 2.3.2.

-Mark Talluto


On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 05:22 PM, Mark wrote:

 I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there does 
 not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are in the 
 ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the 
 development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?).

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recording sound

2001-06-05 Thread Mark

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Subject: re: Sound recording?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:42:11 -0400
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I have seen a couple of posts that mention recording sounds in MC 2.4
beta, but on the MC FTP site though only parts of the 2.4 beta seem
available.

I assume I cannot use these with the 2.3x environment because when I
try MC complains about the format of the command.

eg., I try record sound x and get errors about missing (, bad
form, missing ,, bad parameters etc etc.

So, where can the 2.4 development environment be downloaded from?
ftp://www.metacard.com/MetaCard/2.4


I downloaded it (again), and on the PC side I get mc.exe, mctools.mc 
and a readme file, and everything sort of seems right, but on the mac 
side I just get the engines (I presume) MetaCardcarbon, MetaCard PPC, 
and the mstools.mc and readme file.

Is the development environment for Mac side omitted by accident or 
design? I'm really wanting to have a play with the Mac side this 
weekend if I can.


  I've also seen references to a recordsound.mc stack written by Tuviah
- is this open source?
Actually it's just simple demo stacks, which I posted so people can see
the syntax to various new features in the 2.4 release, and most
importantly report any bugs that they find to MetaCard Corp so they can
be fixed while in beta. I'll probably trash it after 2.4 goes to final
release..or move it somewhere else (AOL FTP space is limited).

ftp://members.aol.com/tuvsnyder/mcdemos/

Tuviah


At first I couldn't get the stack to work. I was a bit lost until I 
tried  record sound x in the message box and got back a Quicktime 
couldn't initialise or similar error, which tells me I have to 
install quick time for Windows first :-)

I'll do that this weekend, and if I'm lucky enough to get the Mac 
side working, I'm sure I'll have fun this weekend :-).

Thanks for your help (and the stack),

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Sound recording?

2001-05-31 Thread Mark

Hi.

I have seen a couple of posts that mention recording sounds in MC 2.4 
beta, but on the MC FTP site though only parts of the 2.4 beta seem 
available.

I assume I cannot use these with the 2.3x environment because when I 
try MC complains about the format of the command.

eg., I try record sound x and get errors about missing (, bad 
form, missing ,, bad parameters etc etc.

So, where can the 2.4 development environment be downloaded from?

I've also seen references to a recordsound.mc stack written by Tuviah 
- is this open source? And if so, can anyone email/post the URL to 
this? I thought it might be under contributors at 
http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/, but no such luck :-(

Cheers,
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Re: Record Sound

2001-04-12 Thread David Bovill

Similar question - any way to use QuickTime to save/convert formats? I have
done this using the QuickTime externals that came with certain versions of
HyperCard, do these work in Metacard?

Anyone?

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 Subject: Record Sound
 
 
 The record sound command seems to record at 44 KHz. For internet
 applications, maybe 11 KHz is suitable (to conserve space). Can we have an
 'average' and 'poor' option that gives options of 11 and 22 KHz recordings.
 
 Ideally, like qteffects, maybe there can be a 'recordoptions' which gives
 the recording options supported. One can then choose from that list.
 
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Re: Distorted QT sound playback

2000-12-07 Thread Hugh Senior

Apologies. I recently reported poor sound reproduction using QT. The
problem has been located to an incorrect playback device setting in the
MultiMedia properties control panel.

However...

Playing sound or movies in QT from a CDROM can cause playback 'stuttering',
as if the system has to wait for the CDROM to catch up.

Does the original burn speed (x4) have anything to do with this?

/H

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Stopping Sound on Close Stack

2000-11-23 Thread Peter Reid

I'm trying to make sure that any currently playing sound is 
immediately terminated if a user clicks on a standalone app's close 
button under Windows NT.  I have put handlers for "CloseStackRequest" 
and "CloseStack", both of which do "play stop".  However, some of the 
time it works and other times it doesn't!  It seems to be more likely 
to fail when my app is running as a standalone rather than as a stack 
with the MC engine running as a Player.  This is with MC2.3.2b4 by 
the way.

Cheers
Peter
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