[meteorite-list] new skyrox??? f.park? cliff note's version wanted
just got back from doing back flips in the pipe 2 steamboat- can someone out there give the cliff note's version of the forest park thread? way- too mant emails to read.Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Thuathe found in graveyard.
A few years ago I lead a meteorite search with the just founded Colorado Meteorite Society (COMETS) for the Johnstown achondrite fall of 1924. We did visit (not search) the graveyard where a burial service was interrupted by a fifteen pound meteorite landing thirty feet from the church door. Our club did not find any Johnstown that day. However, today I purchased an 86 gram Thuathe meteorite that was found in the Ha Mothoane graveyard by Motlalepula Ramoabi. I trust that Motalepula did not use a burial shovel to dig this meteorite out of the ground as did the gentlemen at Johnstown, Colorado, during the burial service on that warm July day. I have Mr. Chauncey Walden to thank for bringing this meteorite from a most unusual location to my attention. Mr. Walden has some Thuathe left for sale (our club members purchased some from him tonight). And to the guys on this list that eat meteorites, my answer is...NO WAY, you sick puppies! May You Live Long And Prosper, Fred Hall
Re: [meteorite-list] Fair Price for Park Forest?
Hey Walter, Do these look like Park Forest to you, first of all. I have'nt seen any close-ups till this set, but for a fresh fall, which we'll assume these are meteorites and they did'nt hit a dog, cow, crashed through a roof and destroy any CPU peripherals(printers, etc.), or the owner-for a supposedly untested L6, one of our list allegedly eyeballed it as an L6 Chondrite - a fair price would be in the neighborhood of $10.00gram. But you have to tell the owner that condition is a factor in pricing it- you know, fusion crust coverage percentage, fractures (pieces missing). I personally would wait and see what the 50lb. heads (scientists) come up with as far as any unusual composition, cause you might regret selling it so fast if it has a unique composition. Unless you know for a fact that they have a definitive analysis on this sucker, already, I would advise the fellow to wait it out and not join in in the selling frenzy. There's some guy on (SELL IT NOW)like Ebay, I personally never heard of it, maybe it's a part of Ebay, is selling his for $200.00gram-that's just greediness if the fall has'nt even been analyzed, even if it is a scientificaly proven ordinary L6, $200.00gr.? you gotta be out of your frieken mind to pay that. One of the List, I think it's Matteo(mcomemeteorites.it) wrote a check it out about the $200.00gram fellow. I hope that helps you a little bit. Nice to meet you. ~* Out of The Smoke Trail IMCA #0583 -Roman N. From: walter branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Fair Price for Park Forest? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:40:06 -0500 Hello Everyone, I received this email a few minutes ago. Anyone care to step up to the plate and suggest a fair retail price, on or off list. The images the person provided are here: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/Dscf0033.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/Dscf0034.jpg Hi, I saw your web site and wanted to get your thoughts on a fair selling price for some Park Forest meteorites I found over the last few days. I have included a few phots of my finds: Aprox. Weights 119.5 grams 16.1 g 6.5 g 5.4 g 3.6 g Thanks! -Walter - www.branchmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] P.S.
I forgot to mention the metal veins in the black melt pieces. Let the conjecture begin. G,night = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] video of Park Forest meteoroid
video of Park Forest meteoroidhttp://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/032703_ns_skyflash.html Ron Hartman
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall
extremely but no esagerated - I have see others ask $200/gr. for this fallfor a similar price I buy Siena or Ensisheim Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, you are usually the one defending extremely high prices Matteo. We wouldn't want the price of Park Forest to be in ruin. Rob Wesel I have pay Tenham historical fall piece with complete crust for $1/gr..this price only why the meteorite have hit houses or cars? Uhmmmand my new italian meteorite how much I have to ask, find over 3000 mt. from sea level, complete individual with crust? I have buy the complete stone for 600 Euro - over the USD the Euro - and is 200 grams. $200/gr.? Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The price will be in the $20 to $30.00 gram range retail fragments and partslices. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall Just curious guys what do you think the going rate on this rock will be when it finally gets reasonable that is? Im just a collector new to this I might like to have a specimen of a historical fall if it's not $500 an ounce lol. Later guys best of luck to you all, Ron = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 7 yes/7 noGood morning list
Good morning list.I want to thank those who purchased some of my micro's yesterday.I was on the computer all day except for when I had to go bowling for 3 hours las night.Just want to let everybody know I still have 7 piece's of each type left.7 crusted and 7 non crusted piece's.There are still some good sized non crusted piece's left.I have 1 piece that is 8x5x4 mm,another that is 8x6x4and another with a very small piece of crust(that one escaped me), that is 8x4x3.So you see there are a few nice micro's left.As usual, let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] News from Park Forest.
Well, the situation is even worse today. Several new dealers have show up, desperate for specimens and finding that the buying price is well over $12 gram, and they are offering more to get a specimen. so this price is rising further, out of control, so many people searching the streets today, it looks like day of the living dead with people walking over every piece of open ground, head down searching. I acquired a couple more pieces today, not much. Tonight I saw an individual, very nice, I am working on getting it. We'll see. I might leave tomorrow, or Tuesday, I hunted all day with no luck. One question, I know nothing about orbit data, but I must assume that with so many camera angles that caught this fireball on tape, that this meteorite should be one with a known orbit! Is this the case? Mike Farmer
[meteorite-list] Volcano Bombs Impact Breccia Identification
March 31, 2003 Greetings Meteorite Enthusiasts! I may not have found an actual space rock yet, but I have strong suspicions that I did when it deals with impact crater material. Keep in mind these are rock pieces found in end moraines deposited by glaciers, since there is no bedrock near my location as far as I know. This is where I need to ask the questions: 1. Are volcano bombs commonly found in Michigan and are they ever mistaken for impact breccias? 2. Also, are there any good clues that distinguish terrestrial breccias from the impact created ones? Thank you again for everyone's help! I hope you all are continuing to keep finding those black Park Forest rocks! It just so happens that one of the pictures I saw of one reminds me of the black melt veins seen in the Rose City H5 chondrite. Best regards, Mark Fox Newaygo, MI USA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new skyrox??? f.park? cliff note's version wanted
How 'bout this. Big flashbig crashmuch confusionlots of cash. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new skyrox??? f.park? cliff note's version wanted
You forgot the ending phrase.Total delusion Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How 'bout this. Big flashbig crashmuch confusionlots of cash. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new skyrox??? f.park? cliff note's version wanted
Or, even more succinctly: Flash ... Crash ... Dash ... Cash!!! How 'bout this. Big flashbig crashmuch confusionlots of cash. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Some initial observations and OPINIONS of a collecter
(I sent this post last night, but I don't think it made it through Sorry if this is a duplicate.) Greetings List, Having a great time, wish you were here!! I really mean that. This has been the ride of a lifetime. I've had 12 hours of sleep since Thursday, just split a pizza with my dog and thought I'd take a minute and share a couple of things with all of you. All of the following is my opinion only. There is more than enough misinformation flying around. I just spent about an hour at the microscope to take a look at some of the Park Forest I've been scrambling for in the last few days. Some neat stuff. My first impressions of this fall were LL6 (it does indeed look a lot like Kilabo), light gray matrix, black veins, but I'm also seeing a quite a bit of troilite in these pieces. A lot more than I've seen in Kilabo. Others that want to share, please chime in. I'm also seeing two very distinct litholigies. Now, granted I only have one specimen of Kilabo and again I'm just a rookie. The other is nearly black in appearance and looks to be, dare I say it, a melt. Just to give myself, and you a quick comparsion I grabbed about 60 small pieces of specimens. Total weight ~16.5 grams. These were found in various areas of Park Forest. I divided them into 3 groups, the ones that look like Kilabo + Troilite, let's call them regular. The ones that look like melt and some pieces that are about 50/50. (I hope all of this scientific jargon isn't confusing you);) This is how it broke down. Regular 3.7 grams, Melt 8 grams and 50/50 4.8 grams. Now I'm not saying this is the trend, all told it seems that the vast majority of what I've seen in the last 4 days has been the regular, but there is something going on with this that I cant wait to get some clarification on. Steve Witt says it's a melt!! No, I'm saying that there's something a little different going on with Park Forest. Just my opinion, would love to hear some comments. I do plan on selling some of this, I hope everyone can get a specimen, and everyone comes away happy. I'm now officially nearly comatose, so will post more when I next return from Park Forest. If anyone wants to write a book on this fall and wants some stories that are absolutely beyond belief (and want to spend a couple of hours on the phone with me let me know). This has been, without a doubt the most memorable four days of my life. Good night. Take care, Steve = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Some initial observations and OPINIONS of a collecter
If anyone wants to write a book on this fall and wants some stories that are absolutely beyond belief (and want to spend a couple of hours on the phone with me let me know). This has been, without a doubt the most memorable four days of my life. Good night. Thanks for the thoughtful comments, Steve. Someone should at least do a comprehensive article for METEORITE! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite fall Vs. Shower
I have a proposition can anyone anywhere please tell me why every time there is a "meteorite fall" the media repeatedly calls it a meteor shower? I mean we all know what a meteor shower is. Is there anyway to educate these people? They are supposed to be the ones reporting the news and educating others. I know this seems to be no big deal but think of it like this. Every time one of these ill informed media outlets makes a statement about a meteor fall and calls it a "shower" it's usually reported in the morning before most go to work or school. Work and school is where everyone including teachers spreads the false information like wildfire. Im just curious does this bother anyone else but me? Thanks, Ron
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall Vs. Shower
If you can come up with a way to prevent the media from spreading misinformation. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I heard a crash (Park Forest)
Very detailed first hand accounts of 2 of the house smashers. Great stuff! http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/yrtwn/south/281syt3.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Adler scientists seek photographic evidence (Park Forest)
Determining an orbit would be the icing on the cake. http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/astronomy/astronews/ Cheers, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Tucson Show 2003 Video
Hello All! My Tucson Show Video (CDROM-Version) arrived today and I would like to extend my thanks to all who contributed, especially Bob Holmes and John Gwilliam. What a blast that is to see you folks in person and even hear you talking. Even though Geoff has been thoroughly Americanized, his British accent is still undeniable :-) What a thrill to see and listen to Twink and Jim with whom I have been exchanging emails for several years now but we have never met nor talked to one another in person. I also enjoyed Mike Martinez' beaming capacities and Fred Hall's dry humor about (not) finding a (single) meteorite down in Chile ;-) Wouldn't it be even more fun to include the birthday bash party in full swing, and also to include some scenes from Twink's and Jim's barbecue?! How about more details from the Tucson Show itself - the meteorite dealers, their meteorites, etc., etc. ... Already looking forward to the 2004 edition of the video and/or the CDROM version. Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall Vs. Shower
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall Vs. Shower Hi Ron, The answer to your question, is there any way to educate these people? is no. Anyone who has ever been involved in a newspaper reported event knows they NEVER get it right. For them to become educated requires an incident or series of incidences that goes on for weeks and weeks. The more competition (TV, Radio, newspapers magazines, etc) there AND the longer the air time (in terms of days, weeks and months) the more they SLOWLY become somewhat more sophisticated. BTW, just as a matter of interest: when you have a fall such as this with dozens and dozens of stones, it IS a SORT of shower. Just not in keeping with the common usage of terms regarding falls. Best wishes, Michael on 3/31/03 8:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a proposition can anyone anywhere please tell me why every time there is a meteorite fall the media repeatedly calls it a meteor shower? I mean we all know what a meteor shower is. Is there anyway to educate these people? They are supposed to be the ones reporting the news and educating others. I know this seems to be no big deal but think of it like this. Every time one of these ill informed media outlets makes a statement about a meteor fall and calls it a shower it's usually reported in the morning before most go to work or school. Work and school is where everyone including teachers spreads the false information like wildfire. Im just curious does this bother anyone else but me? Thanks, Ron The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
[meteorite-list] eBay Orgueil!
Hi I have some Orgueil for sale on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2168015105 I see that I have already had a bid! That was quick! thanks for your indulgence dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: My Introduction
Greetings Everybody, As a new list member, I just wanted to introduce myself to everybody; My name is Ryan,and I live in Franklin, WI (Milwaukee Co.) Some of you dealers may already know who I am from previous purchases. I have been collecting for a few years now, but have recently taken up the art of meteorite hunting. I went down to Park Forest on Friday,and needless to say the weather and hunting were terrible and I came back with nothing. I plan to make return trips to Park Forest , the first being either tomorrow or Wednesday. I'll let everyone know if I find anything. By the way, does anybody know the approximate radius of the strewnfield? The last I heard was approx. 8km. Any info would be well appreciated. Thanks everyone! I am glad to be a new member of the Meteorite Central mailing list, and I am looking foward to meeting all of you. Regards, Ryan
[meteorite-list] Scientists Looking For More Park Forest Bolide Videos
One question, I know nothing about orbit data, but I must assume that with so many camera angles that caught this fireball on tape, that this meteorite should be one with a known orbit! Is this the case? -- Mike Farmer Very good question Mike. Several researchers have contacted me begging for video and still camera images of the fireball. They said that they are very close to determining an orbit but that they have seen very few images or videos! They asked me if anyone was spear-heading the recovery of fireball data? I had to tell them that, being a geologist, I was following closely the efforts of the geologists in the field, and that I had made the assumption that at least one of the numerous astronomers in the Chicago area would be following up on the recovery of fireball data. But as of yet, I haven't heard of any effort, let alone any results, in regards to this matter. So, if anyone has any images or videos of this bolide, PLEASE contact this researcher: Dr. Peter Brown Assistant Professor Canada Research Chair in Meteor Science Meteor Physics Group Department of Physics and Astronomy University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 3K7 Canada http://phobos.astro.uwo.ca/~pbrown Voice:1-519-661-2111 x86458 Fax:1-519-661-4085 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteor Astronomy Lab : 1-519-661-2111 x84744 Meteor Physics Lab : 1-519-850-2385 Planetary Astronomy Lab : 1-519-661-2111 x87985 According to Peter, an orbital determination is close at hand! He doubts that any amount of strewn field data will refine this determination. But the next image or video of this fireball that is sent to him, may very well supply the missing component that is needed to determine this orbit! With best regards, Bob V. P.S. - OKAY, I just saw Charlie Devine's post - luckily before I sent this one - so there is a local astronomer that is attempting to retrieve data, too: Dr. Mark Hammergren, Astronomer Adler Planetarium Astronomy Museum 312-322-0319, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/astronomy/astronews/ - Original Message From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 06:58:05 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] News from Park Forest. Well, the situation is even worse today. Several new dealers have show up, desperate for specimens and finding that the buying price is well over $12 gram, and they are offering more to get a specimen. so this price is rising further, out of control, so many people searching the streets today, it looks like day of the living dead with people walking over every piece of open ground, head down searching.=20 I acquired a couple more pieces today, not much. Tonight I saw an individual, very nice, I am working on getting it. We'll see. I might leave tomorrow, or Tuesday, I hunted all day with no luck.=20 One question, I know nothing about orbit data, but I must assume that with so many camera angles that caught this fireball on tape, that this meteorite should be one with a known orbit! Is this the case? Mike Farmer -- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW skyrox?$?$? FP
do any of you dealer-types out there have any of this new forest park for sale?Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Volcano Bombs Impact Breccia Identification
Hello Mark and List Bombs are typically highly vessiculated magmas. What you may be thinking of are ejected old magmas which are ripped from the walls of a volcanic vent and would have shapes that are irregular if not just plain blocky. These differ from bombs in that they are from previous events and may be breciated magmas, and that becomes then a problem to determine origin other than terrestrial. Bombs on the other hand, will usually be of freshly melted material and can be very frothy in texture as well as having aerodynamic forms. Both types can occur in an eruption, but I'd expect ash to be the more common found with old magma ejecta. Mark --- Mark Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: March 31, 2003 Greetings Meteorite Enthusiasts! I may not have found an actual space rock yet, but I have strong suspicions that I did when it deals with impact crater material. Keep in mind these are rock pieces found in end moraines deposited by glaciers, since there is no bedrock near my location as far as I know. This is where I need to ask the questions: 1. Are volcano bombs commonly found in Michigan and are they ever mistaken for impact breccias? 2. Also, are there any good clues that distinguish terrestrial breccias from the impact created ones? Thank you again for everyone's help! I hope you all are continuing to keep finding those black Park Forest rocks! It just so happens that one of the pictures I saw of one reminds me of the black melt veins seen in the Rose City H5 chondrite. Best regards, Mark Fox Newaygo, MI USA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW skyrox?$?$? FP
Harlan, Do not take this wrong as I mean no offense. There has been roughly 300 messages posted to the list regarding this fall in the last 72 hours. If you did not read them you have completely missed the story and the reason why there is not a flood of it for sale. Otherwise you probably wouldn't be asking. It is probably available but I think it will be awhile before any of our guys offer it besides Steve Arnold in Chicago who is selling micros. Some of the dealers did get some and you can figure on it selling for 20.00 dollars or more a gram, probably alot more. To know why the price is so high you will have to go through the 300 plus emails and read what actually went on with the press, the museums and the police. I suggest you go through the archives and read the way things went down and then wait patiently for some to surface. While you are waiting start saving your pennies. Mark M. Phoenix AZ - Original Message - From: harlan trammell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW skyrox?$?$? FP do any of you dealer-types out there have any of this new forest park for sale? Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ??? Forest Park
You have indicated that there has been 300 emails reference this fall. I have only had about 40 to 50 on my computer. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks John
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: My Introduction
Welcome Ryan. Good luck hunting and enjoy this fascinating and educational hobby Dave Greetings Everybody, As a new list member, I just wanted to introduce myself to everybody; My name is Ryan,and I live in Franklin, WI (Milwaukee Co.) Some of you dealers may already know who I am from previous purchases. I have been collecting for a few years now, but have recently taken up the art of meteorite hunting. I went down to Park Forest on Friday,and needless to say the weather and hunting were terrible and I came back with nothing. I plan to make return trips to Park Forest , the first being either tomorrow or Wednesday. I'll let everyone know if I find anything. By the way, does anybody know the approximate radius of the strewnfield? The last I heard was approx. 8km. Any info would be well appreciated. Thanks everyone! I am glad to be a new member of the Meteorite Central mailing list, and I am looking foward to meeting all of you. Regards, Ryan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] I heard a crash (Park Forest)
One thing that strikes me in this story is : if your kid comes and tells you there is a noise, believe them! Could be anything! How many accidents have happened due to telling them to go back to sleep? Has anyone, since it's April fools and everyone is hyped up, tried throwing a brick onto someones roof and seeing what happens? Thanks for the good post of those stories - I've saved them as some collateral to go with my collection - but I still need a piece of the new one! Waiting for the dust to settle! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] testing 1 2 3
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Tucson Show 2004 Video
What the next video really needs is for Bernd and Pauline to be in Tucson to be in it! Twink Monrad
[meteorite-list] They be burnin
Dear List; To coin a popular term from Jim and Dave at Meteorite Times, I am trying to ferret out the burned rocks that I keep finding. Has anyone deliberately burned meteorites in a camp fire (no, I am not drunk, or stoned)? Have any of the nomads of the hot deserts ever brought in any meteorite that were roasted in a camp fire, meaning used as fire ring rocks? I find what appears to be sand stone, but it is magnetic. It seems that the native americans used these rocks for cooking and for fire ring rocks. They seem out of place but other than some attraction to a strong magnet, they don't really look at all like meteorites. I am trying to determine what melted chondrites look like. befuddled, Dave Freeman __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I heard a crash (Park Forest)
I have two, 180 pound Brazillian Fila Mastiffs that are in charge of investigating all unusual noisesso far the only thing they have returned with is a somewhat bloody back pocket from a pair of blue jeans. We are pretty sure that was terrestrial in origin. Welcome to the group Ryan. Mark M. Phoenix Arizona - Original Message - From: Ryan Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] I heard a crash (Park Forest) One thing that strikes me in this story is : if your kid comes and tells you there is a noise, believe them! Could be anything! How many accidents have happened due to telling them to go back to sleep? Has anyone, since it's April fools and everyone is hyped up, tried throwing a brick onto someones roof and seeing what happens? Thanks for the good post of those stories - I've saved them as some collateral to go with my collection - but I still need a piece of the new one! Waiting for the dust to settle! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] updates on park forest
Good evening list.I got wonderful news from my friend today.He decided to keep 4 of the 7 piece's he found in his back yard, bit I am getting the 3 largest.When he told me the size, I almost had a coronary.They are 360, 173, and 77 gram whole individuals.He said the all have about 95 percent fusion crust, and are totally blackgray in color.YYYESSS!!Also to update as to what I have left i micro's, here is a breakdown as to what I have left. FUSION CRUSTED MICRO'S 7X3X3mm, (3 AT)6X4X3mm, 7x3x2mm, 6x3x2mm, and 5x3x3 --- NON-CRUSTED PIECE'S 8x5x4mm, 8x6x3, (2 at)6x4x2, and (2 at)4x4x2mm --- This is what I have left.I will be going back to the strewnfield this saturday at about 8:00am. Also roman jirasek from toronto will be there.I also heard a few other collecters will be there.Hope some of you can make it. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] updates on park forest
Steve I hope for your sake that this guy is giving you thousands of dollars in pieces. And that they are meteorites. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] updates on park forest Good evening list.I got wonderful news from my friend today.He decided to keep 4 of the 7 piece's he found in his back yard, bit I am getting the 3 largest.When he told me the size, I almost had a coronary.They are 360, 173, and 77 gram whole individuals.He said the all have about 95 percent fusion crust, and are totally blackgray in color.YYYESSS!!Also to update as to what I have left i micro's, here is a breakdown as to what I have left. FUSION CRUSTED MICRO'S 7X3X3mm, (3 AT)6X4X3mm, 7x3x2mm, 6x3x2mm, and 5x3x3 -- - NON-CRUSTED PIECE'S 8x5x4mm, 8x6x3, (2 at)6x4x2, and (2 at)4x4x2mm -- - This is what I have left.I will be going back to the strewnfield this saturday at about 8:00am. Also roman jirasek from toronto will be there.I also heard a few other collecters will be there.Hope some of you can make it. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] photo's tomorrow
Hello again list.Just to let all know, tomorrow I will have my 1.4 gram pieces on my website as well as what I have left of my micro's.Just talked to my camera guy.Thought I would pass it along to all who still want to buy some micro's. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] updates on park forest
Steve, Three individuals totaling 610 grams. That's some good friend you have Steve. And some good fortune on your part. Have you given any thought to sharing your good fortune by donating your remaining micros to an area school perhaps? Just a thought :-) Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Good evening list.I got wonderful news from my friend today.He decided to keep 4 of the 7 piece's he found in his back yard, bit I am getting the 3 largest.When he told me the size, I almost had a coronary.They are 360, 173, and 77 gram whole individuals.He said the all have about 95 percent fusion crust, and are totally blackgray in color.YYYESSS!!Also to update as to what I have left i micro's, here is a breakdown as to what I have left. FUSION CRUSTED MICRO'S 7X3X3mm, (3 AT)6X4X3mm, 7x3x2mm, 6x3x2mm, and 5x3x3 --- NON-CRUSTED PIECE'S 8x5x4mm, 8x6x3, (2 at)6x4x2, and (2 at)4x4x2mm --- This is what I have left.I will be going back to the strewnfield this saturday at about 8:00am. Also roman jirasek from toronto will be there.I also heard a few other collecters will be there.Hope some of you can make it. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Fw: THUATHE SALE !!! FINAL UPDATE!!!
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: Fw: THUATHE SALE !!! FINAL UPDATE!!! Hello, This is THE FINAL UPDATE!!! HERE IS MY UPDATED VERSION. I WILL ALSO CONSIDER TRADING...LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE! Hello Everyone, Almost everyone has heard about the Thuathe Meteorite from Lesotho! Below are SUPERB Slices and 1st rate individuals. These are the ones we just brought back. Many of these were traded or purchased direct from the University of Lesotho and some were found and kept hidden by the villagers months ago. Below is all that I am going to sell! Thuathe was found near Maseru, Lesotho. It FELL to Earth on July 21st, 2002 at 1549 local time. This is a beautiful and Fresh witnessed fall. H4 Chondrite. Identification card included! PAYPAL, CHECK OR MONEY ORDER!! Postage is $3.80 for PRIORITY SHIPPING. Please contact and reserve piece. Speedy email is appreciated! Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham 1. 163.46 gram Half Individual BEAUTIFUL.. $1,144.22 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t1.JPG http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t2.JPG 2. 28.84 gram complete slice with crust$230.72 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t3.JPG 5. 6.79 gram Part Slice with crust$54.32 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t6.JPG 6. 7.77 gram Part Slice A little crust$62.16 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t7.JPG 8. 6.04 gram part slice with crust...$48.32 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t9.JPG 9. 5.95 gram part slice with crust...$47.60 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t10.JPG 10. 5.94 gram part slice with crust.$47.52 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t11.JPG 12. 4.35 gram part slice with crust.$34.80 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t13.JPG 14. 3.38 gram part slice$27.04 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t15.JPG 16. 54.15 gram 98% fusion crusted Individual$400.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t17.JPG http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t18.JPG 17. 36.33 gram 98% fusion crusted individual$275.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t19.JPG 18. 25.96 gram 95% fusion crusted individual$190.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t21.JPG 20. 11.82 gram 90% fusion crusted individual..$85.60 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t25.JPG 23 9.55 gram 96% fusion crusted individual.$69.25 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t29.JPG 24. 4.83 gram 65% fusion crusted fragment.$40.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t30.JPG 25. 4.69 gram 85% fusion crusted individual.$38.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t31.JPG 28. 3.72 gram 78% fusion crusted individual.$32.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t34.JPG 29. 2.96 gram 90% fusion crusted individual.$30.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t35.JPG THE END
[meteorite-list] Car smasher meteorite SOLD
Well everyone, the car smasher sold in about 30 seconds! Someone out there got a score! I wanted to keep it but at the price I cant afford to keep more than one piece. Many pieces today were not meteorites, so ill call today the mother-of all-meteorwrongs day. I will be trying to get out tomorrow and go home, not sure yet, but we will see. Mike Farmer This will be the most talked about meteorite for MANY years to come. There is also something interesting about it, it is an impact-melt breccia like CAT MOUNTAIN!
Re: [meteorite-list] Forest Park Meteorite Fall
This has turned out to be the meteorite fall of the century. So many great stories over the past week of people with their cars and houses hit. It is also refreshing to know that most of the people who have benefited really need the money. You can't blame them for asking as much as the market will bear for their once-in-a-lifetime finds. I think the even if I wasn't a meteorite collector I would not even consider selling a meteorite that fell through my roof. Just how many times in the past has this happened? Not many. It is too bad that the weather in Chicago has not been co-operating as it will be interesting to see how quickly the specimens rust that sit out in the rainy weather only to be found a week after the fall. It is possible that the weight of the pristine specimens will be far less than the total weight of this fall once it is ultimatelydetermined. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Forest Park Meteorite Fall
There is only about 14 to 20 kilos known, only about 6 kilos in private hands. The rest is still with the owners, all of who saw the advice of the plantarium yesterdat telling them not to sell, it with worth far more than any dealer will offer them. So thanks to them, the people now want millions. No problem, those stones are off the market for a few years. What little is available is almost all spoken for. The pieces that have been found since the rain (and it is raining HARD right now) are all rusted already. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Jim Strope To: Meteorite Central Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Forest Park Meteorite Fall This has turned out to be the meteorite fall of the century. So many great stories over the past week of people with their cars and houses hit. It is also refreshing to know that most of the people who have benefited really need the money. You can't blame them for asking as much as the market will bear for their once-in-a-lifetime finds. I think the even if I wasn't a meteorite collector I would not even consider selling a meteorite that fell through my roof. Just how many times in the past has this happened? Not many. It is too bad that the weather in Chicago has not been co-operating as it will be interesting to see how quickly the specimens rust that sit out in the rainy weather only to be found a week after the fall. It is possible that the weight of the pristine specimens will be far less than the total weight of this fall once it is ultimatelydetermined. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
[meteorite-list] Twink JimRe: Meteorite-list digest, Vol 1 #1586 - 24 msgs
I just watched my CD-ROM of the Tucson 2003 show video last night with my wife. Yes, it was great! I even had a small part in it (about 28 seconds out of my total 15 minutes of fame). I was quite happy to see that Twink Jim had big parts in the video. These two individuals absolutely define class. Just look in the dictionary, you'll see their photos. Seriously, back in July I uprooted and moved my family from Ohio to Tucson. The absolutely FIRST people we met here in town (other than our realtor) were Twink and Jim. They came out on the day after we arrived with lunch from Baggins and not just one but TWO house warming gifts (a Gold Basin and a Canyon Diablo). :) Class indeed. - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] thank you
Hi list. I want to give credit to bob evans for showing me prime spots for where some of the park forest meteorites fell.If it wasn't for him, I might not have found what I found.Thanks again bob.It is nice to have help now and then. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest orders
Hi again everyone, I am sending this here since I have too many orders to answer individually. I am requesting that all who want pieces of this meteorite, send me payment via paypal for watever $$$ amount you want to buy. I do not know what the final price will be, but you all read the emails so ytou know it will be near or maybe over $30 gram for those who want nice pieces. This is an impact-melt breccia, and I have not seen it cut but know it will be absolutely stunning. I will handle all orders by what you want, and if we decide I cant fill your order, the paypal payment can simply be cancelled and the money credited to yuor paypal acount with no fee. This will let me have more money available here to buy more if more comes available. I will of course, do my best to give those of you who want to help by doing this the best pieces and deals possible. Mike Farmer paypal account, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest orders
By the way, the price of the meteorite could well approach far higher, I think it will sell later for $70 gram. This is a once in a century fall, so I am saying that Matteo, sorry bud, you will never see a gram for sale cheap, and you will find that it will be like Portales Valley, many people complained that it was too expensive when it first popped, well, there is NONE on the market, it is all sold. This one will go out the door the same way. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest orders Hi again everyone, I am sending this here since I have too many orders to answer individually. I am requesting that all who want pieces of this meteorite, send me payment via paypal for watever $$$ amount you want to buy. I do not know what the final price will be, but you all read the emails so ytou know it will be near or maybe over $30 gram for those who want nice pieces. This is an impact-melt breccia, and I have not seen it cut but know it will be absolutely stunning. I will handle all orders by what you want, and if we decide I cant fill your order, the paypal payment can simply be cancelled and the money credited to yuor paypal acount with no fee. This will let me have more money available here to buy more if more comes available. I will of course, do my best to give those of you who want to help by doing this the best pieces and deals possible. Mike Farmer paypal account, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] My meteorite on the news
http://www.nbc5.com/news/2077152/detail.html Click here, this shows a news report done this evening on NBC. Pretty cool eh? Mike Farmer. This is of course, my collection piece.
RE: [meteorite-list] My meteorite on the news
Only 3 times a year for a shower? Does anyone know what they really mean by that? There are more than that a month if you look at http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/calendar.html. However, ones that hit the earth in this way there would be less of. Do they mean a found strewn field? Good on you Mike. Glad you got it. Pity it missed the PC. Im having trouble with mine maybe you could hire it out to bash things? Ive just bought a micro piece, so Im fairly happy, and not poor to the tune of $12k!
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall Vs. Shower
Hi, Michael, Everybody, You're probably right that the answer is no. However, about that terminology. When a rock is in space, it's a meteroid. When a meteoroid gets involved with a planet and its atmosphere, it's a meteor. When a meteor survives to reach the planetary surface or something on the planetary surface, it's gets promoted to meteorite. We call the comet-associated swarms of meteoroids that sweep the earth at regular orbital intervals meteor showers in advance of the event because we have no expectation that any of them will ever make it to the ground. But they are called showers because of their close association in time and space. (That's close in celestial terms; a meteor at the beginning of a shower may be millions of miles and hours away from one at the end of a shower.) Presumably, rocks and dust that are not going to contact the earth are meteoroid showers, except it sounds more professional if you call them meteoroid streams. (Then there's always the old science fiction standby: the meteor swarm! Good to avoid that one.) It seems obvious to me that a rain of rocks from the sky is a meteorite shower. However, you could argue that even the 1,000's of fragments of something like Holbrook started out as one lousy rock and one rock does not a shower make. Of course, they're not meteorites until they reach the ground, so by the time they become meteorites, there are 1,000's! One meteor (not a shower) becomes a meteorite shower. However, since the term shower obscures a fundamental fact about meteoritic break-up in the atmosphere, I bet it's not a term naybody likes. But I'll bet if you were standing under one, like Winslow Street in Park Forest at 12:30 a.m., 03-27-03, shower would seem a completely under-dramatic term. Barrage might have suited it better! Sterling K. Webb - Michael L Blood wrote: Hi Ron, The answer to your question, is there any way to educate these people? is no. Anyone who has ever been involved in a newspaper reported event knows they NEVER get it right. For them to become educated requires an incident or series of incidences that goes on for weeks and weeks. The more competition (TV, Radio, newspapers magazines, etc) there AND the longer the air time (in terms of days, weeks and months) the more they SLOWLY become somewhat more sophisticated. BTW, just as a matter of interest: when you have a fall such as this with dozens and dozens of stones, it IS a SORT of shower. Just not in keeping with the common usage of terms regarding falls. Best wishes, Michael on 3/31/03 8:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a proposition can anyone anywhere please tell me why every time there is a meteorite fall the media repeatedly calls it a meteor shower? I mean we all know what a meteor shower is. Is there anyway to educate these people? They are supposed to be the ones reporting the news and educating others. I know this seems to be no big deal but think of it like this. Every time one of these ill informed media outlets makes a statement about a meteor fall and calls it a shower it's usually reported in the morning before most go to work or school. Work and school is where everyone including teachers spreads the false information like wildfire. Im just curious does this bother anyone else but me? Thanks, Ron The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: ttp://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: ttp://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest orders
buy for $6/gr. good luck to all have to buy for $70/gr. Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, the price of the meteorite could well approach far higher, I think it will sell later for $70 gram. This is a once in a century fall, so I am saying that Matteo, sorry bud, you will never see a gram for sale cheap, and you will find that it will be like Portales Valley, many people complained that it was too expensive when it first popped, well, there is NONE on the market, it is all sold. This one will go out the door the same way. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest orders Hi again everyone, I am sending this here since I have too many orders to answer individually. I am requesting that all who want pieces of this meteorite, send me payment via paypal for watever $$$ amount you want to buy. I do not know what the final price will be, but you all read the emails so ytou know it will be near or maybe over $30 gram for those who want nice pieces. This is an impact-melt breccia, and I have not seen it cut but know it will be absolutely stunning. I will handle all orders by what you want, and if we decide I cant fill your order, the paypal payment can simply be cancelled and the money credited to yuor paypal acount with no fee. This will let me have more money available here to buy more if more comes available. I will of course, do my best to give those of you who want to help by doing this the best pieces and deals possible. Mike Farmer paypal account, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Volcano Bombs Impact Breccia Identification
To releave the suspense, there are NO occurrences of volcanos/volcanic geology in eastern North America since before the Triassic(200±mya).* The only volcanic stems left today in the Eastern North American plate are a part of a plutonic and volcanic series in New England (Devonian 345 ±mya). All were along the margins of the eastern seaboard. There are about 9 crypto-volcanic structures in the central US that have been identified as astroblemes. After the Cretaceous(65 mya) volcanos flourished in the western US. As to the natural occurrence of volcanic material on the Wisconsin and Michigan Peninsulas. Not unless it was imported for barbecues! I've never seen a brecciated volcanic bomb and I don't think it exists by definition. (Note Mark's post on magmas and xenoliths even if he did not call them that) There is more smelting slag in the Great Lakes area than another place I know of. It was used to pave roads, build railroad ballast, even dumped into the lakes. ( Anyone remember the emerald material left by aliens recovered on the lake floor some guy was selling on the internet?) Impact breccia could, in theory, have been transported from any of several craters on the Canadian Shield.--by glaciers or as a part of some smelting ore transport. NON impact related Breccia lenses can occasionally be found along contact faces of faults and are occasionally brought to surface in mining operations. Impact breccias look like melts or rocks that have been roasted. Other breccias likely to be found near you are more likely to have a limestone/calcium content..which will effervesce in hydrochloric acid. They will most likely contain clasts which look sedimentary. I hope this helps to exclude volcanic bombs as a source... Be it remembered that one or two lunar meteorites have been found with a vessiculated fusion crust ( just to keep you on needles) Regards, Elton * There may be a couple of islands in the arctic circle but those are associated with the icelandic system and not the North American Plate. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest orders
Hello Michael, First, let me say nice to meet you, on this thing of ours. I have'nt read all the Email- so I dont know if any conclusive analysis has been made yet by a trained astrochemist or some Meteorite Lab on a genuine sample of Park Forest. I just need to know if you know, or heard, that it's an impact melt breccia. You sound like one happy dude. Must be great to find some meteorites and buy a keeper. Yor enthusiasm is infectious. You been hangin'round HAAG-man or something? SEE YA! ( IMCA #0583) Roman N. From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest orders Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:02:14 -0700 Hi again everyone, I am sending this here since I have too many orders to answer individually. I am requesting that all who want pieces of this meteorite, send me payment via paypal for watever $$$ amount you want to buy. I do not know what the final price will be, but you all read the emails so ytou know it will be near or maybe over $30 gram for those who want nice pieces. This is an impact-melt breccia, and I have not seen it cut but know it will be absolutely stunning. I will handle all orders by what you want, and if we decide I cant fill your order, the paypal payment can simply be cancelled and the money credited to yuor paypal acount with no fee. This will let me have more money available here to buy more if more comes available. I will of course, do my best to give those of you who want to help by doing this the best pieces and deals possible. Mike Farmer paypal account, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Honduran Moon Rock Forfeited To The United States
National Aeronautics and Space Administration Office of Inspector General Washington, D.C. 20546 March 31, 2003 RELEASE 2003-025: HONDURAN MOON ROCK FORFEITED TO THE UNITED STATES On March 26, 2003, U. S. District Judge Adalberto Jordan, ordered that the United States is entitled to forfeit a moon rock stolen from the government of the Republic of Honduras and introduced into the United States in violation of United States Customs laws. The moon rock was originally given to the Republic of Honduras as one of many goodwill gifts of moon rocks and other lunar mission mementos given to friendly nations in 1973. Law enforcement agents, in a sting operation aimed at preventing fraudulent moon rock and lunar material sales, seized the moon rock after it had been imported into the United States. The government of Honduras then formally requested the United States to return the moon rock to Honduras. The United States filed a complaint in federal court against the moon rock's importer seeking forfeiture of the moon rock on the grounds that it was stolen property introduced into the United States in violation of customs laws. The Federal Court found that the government and the people of the Republic of Honduras had not transferred title to the moon rock under Honduran law and the court upheld the forfeiture of the property. Special Agents from the NASA Office of Inspector General, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement of the Department of Homeland Security, and the United States Postal Inspection Service conducted the investigation. Assistant United States Attorney James H. Swain and United States Customs Service Attorney Jonathan Zwibel handled the case. For more information on this release, please contact Joseph Kroener, Acting Executive Officer, NASA Office of Inspector General, at (202) 358-2558. For a copy of the decision in pdf format click here: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/oig/hq/press/honduran1.pdf *** End *** __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
