Re: [meteorite-list] NEW PALLASITE
Mike wrote: This is a meteorite with 50% pyroxene, it is my understanding that the other pyroxene pallasites have ~5%, mine has 50%! This to my knowledge is the only Pallasite from North West Africa. Congratulations Mike! The only two pyroxene pallasites that I know of are: Vermillion Yamato 8451 References: BOESENBERG J.S. et al. (1995) Pyroxene Pallasites A New Pallasite Grouplet (Meteoritics 30-5, 1995, 488). BOESENBERG J.S. et al. (2000) The pyroxene pallasites, Vermillion and Yamato 8451: Not quite a couple (MAPS 35-4, Jul 2000, 757-769). To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Website Update, Meteorite Chat Room
Hello Everybody, Still working on my website, I seem to continue to add 4-7 pages a day to it. One of the new pages today, if the subject line didn't tell you...is a meteorite chat room. While I do not in any way see this as a rival to the list here, sometimes it is easier to be able to talk back and forth in a fashion that the list does not let you do. It is after 3 in the mourning here...so after I send this I will be going to sleep likely...but I will try to spendsome timetomorrow in the room letting everyone test it out. Perhaps, if others wanted to, we could meet once a week at a certain time. (Which from my understanding is how this list started). http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html Automated features like the chat room and my recent poll are easy work on us webmastersor at least after they are built...so I will look at ways to continue to add more to my site. Mark Bostick Wichita, KansasPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Anti-rust
Heres a bit of info while I was investigating anti-rust.. The vapor emitters are fascinating, but how about for our open-air specimens on displays?? This may be prohibitively costlyIll have to await their reply to my inquiries. This system is for 4WDs, SUV, autos, but I imagine it might be adaptable for our larger meteorites. Anyone out there with rusty 300 lb Campos?? Joseph Honolulu http://www.counteractrust.com/ The CounterAct electronic rust prevention system uses a process called 'capacitive coupling' to apply a measurable current to every metallic component of a vehicle that's earthed to the battery. A small unit, usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount of power required to create an electrostatic field that will keep the metal structure electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing the ion mobility that's the basis of the corrosion process, The unit is fed from the vehicle's battery, drawing about as much current as an LCD clock. So the system operates by applying one of the principles of electrochemistry - that an oxidation reaction can be slowed or retarded by creating a surplus of electrons to the metal from a supplementary source.
RE: [meteorite-list] Anti-rust
Hi, Problem is that irons (and indeed chondrites) actually contain a [mixture] of metals and there therefore is an electronic potential between different metals which is aggravated by water. In a vehicle/car which is nearly all the same type of steel, electronic protection will probably work ok, since all surfaces are nicely earthed to the auto/car chassis. But I doubt if it would work on the dissimilar metals such as those in meteorites because you could never even out all the charges. Vapor Corrosion inhibitors or VCIs are chemical emmiters that stop rust they work in a much different way, they emit a molecular coating which settles on the meteorite / metal surface just a few atoms thick, and stop the air/water from reaching the surface thus stopping rust. The coating is so thin that it is not even noticeable but it really does work and is used extensively for this purpose. Mark F. -Original Message- From: Joseph Murakami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2003 09:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Anti-rust Heres a bit of info while I was investigating anti-rust.. The vapor emitters are fascinating, but how about for our open-air specimens on displays?? This may be prohibitively costlyIll have to await their reply to my inquiries. This system is for 4WDs, SUV, autos, but I imagine it might be adaptable for our larger meteorites. Anyone out there with rusty 300 lb Campos?? Joseph Honolulu http://www.counteractrust.com/ The CounterAct electronic rust prevention system uses a process called 'capacitive coupling' to apply a measurable current to every metallic component of a vehicle that's earthed to the battery. A small unit, usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount of power required to create an electrostatic field that will keep the metal structure electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing the ion mobility that's the basis of the corrosion process, The unit is fed from the vehicle's battery, drawing about as much current as an LCD clock. So the system operates by applying one of the principles of electrochemistry - that an oxidation reaction can be slowed or retarded by creating a surplus of electrons to the metal from a supplementary source.
Re: [meteorite-list] Anti-rust
Hello, I am currently treating a 150 lb Campo for rusting problems. It will take about 6 months, an it is currently into its 4th month. I will post the results. Also, the NaOH solution that I have used can also be use in an electrolytic process where the meteorite becomes the anode and the offending chlorine ions are driven out of the specimen. I have not tried this yet, and have chosen to use the passive method of letting the specimen sit in the solution for extended lenghts of time. Steve Schoner/ams http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification Steve Schoner/ams --- Joseph Murakami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a bit of info while I was investigating anti-rust.. The vapor emitters are fascinating, but how about for our open-air specimens on displays?? This may be prohibitively costly.I'll have to await their reply to my inquiries. This system is for 4WD's, SUV, auto's, but I imagine it might be adaptable for our larger meteorites. Anyone out there with rusty 300 lb Campo's?? Joseph Honolulu http://www.counteractrust.com/ The CounterAct electronic rust prevention system uses a process called 'capacitive coupling' to apply a measurable current to every metallic component of a vehicle that's earthed to the battery. A small unit, usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount of power required to create an electrostatic field that will keep the metal structure electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing the ion mobility that's the basis of the corrosion process, The unit is fed from the vehicle's battery, drawing about as much current as an LCD clock. So the system operates by applying one of the principles of electrochemistry - that an oxidation reaction can be slowed or retarded by creating a surplus of electrons to the metal from a supplementary source. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] HUGE and I mean HUGE ebay sale tonight!
Hi everyone, I am just home from a quick 5 day trip to Africa again, not bad, 117 degrees in the shade! I have over 60 items ending on ebay tonight, ALL STARTED FOR ONE CENT, some are still there. Highlights include, ZAG individual, 2.2 KILOS started for one cent! Oriented Sikhote-Alin, gorgeous. NWA 998 Frankfort HOWARDITE, bet you don't have a piece of this one! 4+ kilos very nice campo Beautiful oriented NWA stone, not as nice as the last one, but very nice indeed. Millbillillie individual, at about $6 gram right now! TOO many things to list, some very rare items, some still at one cent. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ click the above link to see most of them. I also have items listed under my new name meteoritehunters http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2180571084category=3239rd=1 Click this link to see NWA 968, and then click to see my other auctions from that page. Thanks Mike Farmer
Re: [meteorite-list] Off the wall meteorites???
Tom, This certainly merits a picture posted somewhere! Jay Foersterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Dealer Refunds
Does the person in question (buyer) wish to present his side of the case on the List? If you can make a compelling case, you may be able to swing opinion, which presently seems to be running strongly against a refund. Myself, I understand that prices fluctuate, and a better (or worse) price may come along at any time. I have overpaid for some of my meteorites, but I still love 'em all, and accept the occasional inflation/deflation as part of the price of this hobby. BTW, 'twarn't me! Are we at #495 or #494 now? :-) Tracy Latimer _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ***Ebay auction ending soon *** $1 NR !!!!
Dear list I have some auction ending in some hours. there are still some nice brecciated individuals at $1 NR. Just have a look at http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=kayunwar; include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Good bids Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] lodran for trade
Hello list.I have a very small amount of LODRAN for trade.I have 2 small capsules of 0.008 grams of this meteorite.Sorry no pics!Let me if interested.I am looking for some NWA piece's.NO NWA 869!!!It is a $200 value.Let me know. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WOW, things are selling CHEAP
People, this is it, items are already ending and some things are going for pennies on the dollar! This is the chance to add some very rare items for Bessey prices. Mike Farmer http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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[meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds (Ron Hartman)
OK, I'll put in my 3-cents worth! (Inflation :=) I, too, vote against the refund unless the buyer has had the item for just a few days, in which case I would allow a refund simply because someone changed their mind; and I would do that to establish good-will. But, let me say the following: In dealing with the meteorite community since 1963, but to a greater extent within the last few years, I have to say that in my own personal experience, I see that we have a very specialized and as a rule well - mannered, nitch group (compared to others on the outside). Most sellers and almost all collectors, even when you consider occasional temperamental flare-ups, seem to be a quite easy-going, agreeable and pleasant group of people to deal with and transactions go smoothly with only the very least of exceptions. The weeds in the patch are well-known and reputations of dealers are pretty transparent. I think of this as the meteorite-world of trade as opposed to the real-world of commerce. With the establishment of www.membranebox.com three years ago, this continued as I dealt with dealers and collectors. As we grew we began to attract corporate and industrial customers. You can not begin to imagine the problems that crop up dealing with these people. It is unbelievable! While some are good to deal with, still others are nothing but a pain. It makes a single customer complaining about a price-drop almost a non-event...a breath of fresh air...in comparison. (The federal government is the best. They send you a 15 page purchase order but they follow procedure to the letter and meet their obligations on time!) My thoughts. Anyone who wishes to communicate to me, please do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as list-posts come to my college office and I am away much of the summer. Ron Hartman www.meteorite1.com www.membranebox.com By the way, if anyone missed our 1/2 page membranebox color ad in METEORITE (current issue) (with the unusual location for the photoshoot) you can find a link to it on our homepage at www.membranebox.com. Feedback always appreciated. (Let me see that counter move) Thanks again for reading this far, Ron - Original Message - From: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Dealer Refunds Does the person in question (buyer) wish to present his side of the case on the List? If you can make a compelling case, you may be able to swing opinion, which presently seems to be running strongly against a refund. Myself, I understand that prices fluctuate, and a better (or worse) price may come along at any time. I have overpaid for some of my meteorites, but I still love 'em all, and accept the occasional inflation/deflation as part of the price of this hobby. BTW, 'twarn't me! Are we at #495 or #494 now? :-) Tracy Latimer _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Art's Birthday Present from the list
Title: Art's Birthday Present from the list Hi Mike, When do we get to see Art's Birthday present for which we all sent you money? Have you sent it to him already? Whazzup. Best wishes, Michael I stand by all the misstatements that I've made. ...George W. Bush to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93 -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
Re: [meteorite-list] Website Update, Meteorite Chat Room
Hello Bill and list, Ileft your message attached as I didn't see it get posted to the listit's funny like that sometimes. It has Bill's new e-mail address so some of you might want to update address books. Which reminds me Bill, did you get your new stock of the iron prevention stuff in? I carry strange hours and am usually up late in the late...but mostly I just don't sleep, so talking to me isnt too hard. If I'm not in the chat room...which I imagine I won't be much of the time...send me an e-mail and if I'm on-line I will pop in. I agree, no selling (please). You'll make us call you nasty nameslike brother of Steve Arnold (Chicago). Mark - Original Message - From: Bill Mason Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 2:09 PM To: 'MARK BOSTICK'; 'Meteorite List' Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Website Update, Meteorite Chat Room GREAT IDEANO SELLING, ZIP, technical, helpful, constructive. GREAT IDEA, MARK Do I have to stay up till three to talk with you?humor? Bill Mason we are getting new addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Slices (AD)
Hi All, I have some Park Forest Slices listed on ebay right now. These are nice slices and I think worth taking a look at. Thanks for your consideration. (first ad in a month :-) --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Top Quailty Specimens on Ebay Ending
Hi All... My last auctions until the end of July will be ending Tuesday night. I have put some high quality specimens up for bid. There are only 5 auctions total. Click on the following link and scroll to the bottom of the page: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ 1) I am clearing outmy remaining stock of Canyon Diablo at below wholesale prices. 9 specimens weighing a total of 1.5kg are still only bid up to 20 cents per gram. 2) Don't miss at least looking at the photos of a small Sikhote-alin meteorite with a double roll over rim (one on each side of the specimen). I have never seen this feature before on a Sikhote-alin. The photos are large so that the detail can be clearly seen. 3) I have a .120 gram fragment of NWA 998 with fusion crust paired up with a thin section of NWA 998.You won't see too many pieces around this small with fusion crust.I started it low to giveeveryone an opportunity to own this exciting meteorite package. By now, you have seen Steve Schoner's photos of the thin section using his soon to be patented polarizer. Check out the photos of this piece and the polarized section. 4) How about a micromount of Johnstown with fusion crust for $12.50? Now there is a steal. 5) A beautiful piece of NWA 482 with fusion crust. It is not as thin as the specimens on my webpage so I started it out low and it is still a bargain at it's current bid. Check out my website of NWA 482 at http://209.238.151.128/nwa482sale.htmand you can see how low I am getting on this material. Unless I can pick up a piece from anotherowner or I cut into my personal collection piece, this is it. Bid high and bid often!! Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
[meteorite-list] AD: PF, Brenahm, Boxhole, Williamette and more PF
Hello List, I have a 121g Park Forest meteorite that hit a tree and there are some wood fibers still stuck on it. I would like to sell or TRADE it for other locations. If interested in a trade I will entertain offers. Wood fibers can be seen on the right photo here: http://members.aol.com/meteorhntr/121.jpg I also have an assortment of small Brenham individuals, Boxhole individuals and some Williamette pieces for sale. If you are not on my normal list but would like the details of these, let me know and I can email it to you. One of my Park Forest hunting buddies is consigning some of his small Park Forest slices, small individuals and small end pieces with me. Some of these are amazing. I hope to have pictures available real soon. Email me if you would like a notice when they are available. Weights from 1g to 11g all excellent quality from $19/g to $25/g and well worth it. Steve Arnold (Arkansas)
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteArticles.com Chat Room....Chat Hours
Hello List, After talking with a couple of people today, it was decided that it would be a good ideal to come up with two talk times a day, so some of us could time each other out. The Chat Room will stay open 24 hours a day but this should help some of us time each other out, better. So I have come up with the following two times, let me know what you guys and gals think of those hours. If the site catches on there are likely to be people there during all times of the daybut this might help it get going. One is 7pm central time and the other is 2am central time for you late birds. 7pm central time is 6pm mountain time, 5 pm pacific time, 8pm eastern time, 4pm alaska, 2pm Hawaii, 1am London *GMT), 2am Rome, 3am Jerusalem, 5am Baku, 8am Hong Kong, 11am Tokyo and 12 noon Sydney. 2am central time is 1am mountain time, Midnight pacific time, 3am eastern time, Midnight alaska, 10pm Hawaii, 9am London *GMT), 10am Rome, 11am Jerusalem, 1pm Baku, 2pm Hong Kong, 3pm Tokyo and 4pm Sydney. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.comPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.