[meteorite-list] Thank You
Hi List, I want to thank everyone for the kind words and compliments regarding the recovery of the Florida fall. Your support is greatly appreciated! Happy Hunts! Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you Was Local to Las Vegas expert needed ...
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I am in the process of responding to the contacts sent to me. Just wanted to thank everyone again who wrote and the subsequent discussion on the state of affairs for classification. Elton __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You Readers! Over 2, 004, 635 Viewers / 334, 328, 694 Views! as of 10DEC2014 Since This Website Started Counting in 2008!
List, Thank You Readers! Over 2,004,635 Viewers / 334,328,694 Views! as of 10DEC2014 Since This Website Started Counting in 2008! Thank you all! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2014/12/thank-you-readers-over-2004635-viewers.html If you haven"t yet please bookmark The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News- 2015 and the coming years will become even more exciting! http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Dirk Ross... Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you and Computer problems
Hi Just noticed this. I was the primary source of Banten as it regards the material in circulation—probably responsible for 90% or more. I obtained Banten in an exchange with the Museum Geologi. i was subsequently involved in a handful of exchanges and sales of Banten and it was offered at a Macovich Auction in Tucson about13 years ago! (Egad). The Indonesian MG no longer participates in exchanges. All the best, Darryl On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Anne Black wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Sorry I have not thanked all of you who answered my question regarding the > pieces of Banten I posted on the Picture of the Day (Thank you Paul), it did > help and the origin of the pieces has been narrowed down to "probably" the > Museum of Bandung in Indonesia. > > And the reason I did not respond sooner is that my computer had been invaded > by a weird virus that did not damage any of my data but was apparently having > fun moving things around, shutting down my computer on a random basis, or > broadcasting a radio station in German! After a couple days in the > Computer-Hospital, my computer is behaving, everything seems to be back to > normal. Only one remaining problem: I cannot update my website, but that will > be taken care of shortly. In the mean time please do email me if you have any > questions. > > Again thanks. > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you and Computer problems
Hello everybody, Sorry I have not thanked all of you who answered my question regarding the pieces of Banten I posted on the Picture of the Day (Thank you Paul), it did help and the origin of the pieces has been narrowed down to "probably" the Museum of Bandung in Indonesia. And the reason I did not respond sooner is that my computer had been invaded by a weird virus that did not damage any of my data but was apparently having fun moving things around, shutting down my computer on a random basis, or broadcasting a radio station in German! After a couple days in the Computer-Hospital, my computer is behaving, everything seems to be back to normal. Only one remaining problem: I cannot update my website, but that will be taken care of shortly. In the mean time please do email me if you have any questions. Again thanks. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You
Hello, I just wanted to say a collective THANK YOU to all who sent kind and beautiful words, condolences, blessings, and prayers. Thanks to all who made purchases and donations. Everything everyone sent, matters in so many ways and the positive energy of it will benefit many people in this time of need. I will in time thank each and every person who reached out personally. For know, I just wanted to send out a collective THANK YOU to everyone on the list who sent something good my family's way. Thank You Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You Sand People
Dear Meteorite Folks: Thank you for your kind responses to my sand request. I've received sand from all over the world! Greg Hupe: Just got your package yesterday. It was so nice of you to include 3 samples! What a sweetheart. Thanks also to Twink and Dorothy. Your surprises are coming! Anita __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you List and MetSocCom
Hi Count and List, Congrats again to the Count and All involved for the discovery, classification and acceptance of Stump Spring 083. Congrats to All who have found meteorites at Stump Spring, Sonny has the numbers there! The Count mentioned one of my finds in that area, here are the Provisional entries for the two individuals I found in October. These are different from each other and were ~1.25 miles apart, one being ~1/2 mile from Guido's. Stump Spring 084: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=stump+spring+084&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=0&pnt=Normal%20table&code=52753 Stump Spring 085 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=stump+spring+085&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=0&pnt=Normal%20table&code=52754 Good to be home... again! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -----Original Message- From: Count Deiro Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:57 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you List and MetSocCom If this is a repost..I'n sorry. I want to thank everyone on and off List for the many congratulations. A correction to the Bulletin. The Stump Springs main mass is held by myself and the Smithsonian. Sonny Clary donated the half that he acquired from me to the Institution last year. The number 83 is because 82 numbers were reserved by Sonny. How you do do this isn't quite clear to me. There are no other "Stump Springs" meteorites in the Bulletin. And, I'm informed this LL6 is unique to any meteorites Sonny has found in this location, and he has found quite a few, as did Jim Krieg and other hunters. Sonny told me those he located in his strewn field were "H's". Greg Hupe found a different classification chondrite less than half a mile from my find a few months ago while accompanied by myself and Adam.. So, there are probably at least three different classifications that have fallen in this strewn field and close proximity. Stump Springs 83 is the largest intact chondrite found so far in Nevada. If you would like to see a photo of how I prepped and mounted it, the link is below. It's mounted upright as I first saw it. I used hot distilled water and a stainless brush followed by a soak in 98% alcohol and a bake in the oven. The way it's depicted hides the fact it was cut in half. It still shows some fusion crust even though it's terrestrial age is probably tens of thousands of years. http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy258/Aitmuseum/?action=view¤t=P8230085.jpg Best personal regards to all and I am very happy that my first find got recognized. Thanks to Ted Bunch and all at the Met Soc Committee too. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you List and MetSocCom
If this is a repost..I'n sorry. I want to thank everyone on and off List for the many congratulations. A correction to the Bulletin. The Stump Springs main mass is held by myself and the Smithsonian. Sonny Clary donated the half that he acquired from me to the Institution last year. The number 83 is because 82 numbers were reserved by Sonny. How you do do this isn't quite clear to me. There are no other "Stump Springs" meteorites in the Bulletin. And, I'm informed this LL6 is unique to any meteorites Sonny has found in this location, and he has found quite a few, as did Jim Krieg and other hunters. Sonny told me those he located in his strewn field were "H's". Greg Hupe found a different classification chondrite less than half a mile from my find a few months ago while accompanied by myself and Adam.. So, there are probably at least three different classifications that have fallen in this strewn field and close proximity. Stump Springs 83 is the largest intact chondrite found so far in Nevada. If you would like to see a photo of how I prepped and mounted it, the link is below. It's mounted upright as I first saw it. I used hot distilled water and a stainless brush followed by a soak in 98% alcohol and a bake in the oven. The way it's depicted hides the fact it was cut in half. It still shows some fusion crust even though it's terrestrial age is probably tens of thousands of years. http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy258/Aitmuseum/?action=view¤t=P8230085.jpg Best personal regards to all and I am very happy that my first find got recognized. Thanks to Ted Bunch and all at the Met Soc Committee too. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You
I just want to send out a Big Thank You in appreciation to all the Congrats on my find yesterday. This might possibly be my sixth Cold Find for Arizona and as any devout hunter knows they are not easy to come by. But with a great passion for just being outdoors the thrill of the hunt never gets old. It was definatly a good day yesterday and hunting in company of good friends who also share the same passion for the hobby just ads to the rewards. All Best ...Todd Parker __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you Michael Blood for a great auction and I thank Ruben also. Can we have a LIVE auction next year?
Is there a list of who won what? Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you Michael Blood for a great auction and I thank Ruben also. Can we have a LIVE auction next year?
Hi Michael, I want to thank you for a great auction and I'm very happy you worked with Ruben on this. It was great and made me feel like I was there in the room. It would be great if there was a way to work out live online bidding like they do at Heritage Auction house and some of the other auction houses. Thanks, Brian Cox IMCA# 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] thank you to everyone
Hi again list.I want to thank everyone who sent condolances about my wife's brother.He is now in a better place and after 61 torchured years,he finally knows peace that knows no understanding.I hope everyone has a great day and stays positive.Because you never know when he is calling you home. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you Laurence Garvie
Laurence, Just a quick note to let you and this wonderful meteorite community know that I received your package today. As busy as you are at ASU You went way out of your way to help me with these seven meteorite prospects. I was expecting a few notes on paper telling me I had nothing. Instead , what I got was a nicely detailed letter very well organized along with an actual print out of each PIXE screening. These reports spell out the mineralogy of each specimen including the Nickel content. I was very happy to see that three of the seven did have enough nickel to warrant further review. And the fact that you did all of this work in such a short period of time adds to the excitement. Laurence you went well above the call on this. I appreciate this more than you know.. You are truly one of the great scientists in this field.. Thank you again. This seems like a good time to recognize a few other scientists that have also gone out of their way in the past to personally help me. Jeff Grossman, Tony Irving, Ted Bunch, Alan Rubin , Randy Korotev, Marc Fries, Rhian Jones, Jim Karner, Dolores Hill, David Kring, Carlton Moore, John Wasson, Tim McCoy, Pierre Rochette. G. Jeffrey Taylor, David Mittlefehldt Robert Matson and Elton Jones. And too many others to mention that have helped me indirectly. And far too many Non-scientists to mention as well. So, thank you to everybody. So as you can see to be great you don't have to be a collector, dealer or hunter. Scientists are alright as well. Thanks again to all of you. Carl. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you List.
Good Morning from Sin City, I have been collecting and recently hunting meteorites for just these past nine months. Nearly a dozen dealers on the LIST can attest that I "caught the bug" and quickly aquired first, the requisite, ubquitose, types and now the more definitive and rare examples as I refine my interest. I could not have obtained these specimens and the lab equipiment to enjoy them without the postings of the members of the List and their respective websites. The amount of knowledge one can aquire from perusing the professional photography and academic papers posted to the List and available on the dozens of links provided is frankly, incredible. I wish to publicly thank the List for welcoming this "newbie". A special thanks to Sonny Clary who, by serendipty, lives within hailing distance of me and has generously guided my first steps into this remarkable field of interest. His finds, particularly in Nevada, are among the rariest extant. A quick Vielen Dank to Moritz Karl for the gorgeous Cape York. The Winonaite was beautifully prepared. Count Guido Deiro __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Thank You Scientists!"
Hi Ed, You asked, "I hope you and your brother are holding on to your planetary cutting dust -" I have the cutting dust from every Lunar of Martian meteorite I have, I am still waiting to use it in a special project at some point. I also have the cutting dust from just about every achondrite I have ever cut. I have ideas of how to use this material eventually, but am willing to consider other's ideas. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" To: "Greg Hupe" Cc: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: "Thank You Scientists!" Hi - Agree completely, Greg. The classification labs and all concerned deserve our thanks. Without NWA I wouldn't have my little chip of the Moon, with which I will be delighting some 2,000 young people next week. I hope you and your brother are holding on to your planetary cutting dust - good hunting and best wishes - Ed --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Greg Hupe wrote: From: Greg Hupe Subject: "Thank You Scientists!" To: "E.P. Grondine" , e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 6:41 PM Hello Ed, You stated, "Maybe what we need is more UFOs and fewer bolides, given all the NWA material on the market..." All NWA material (and other material found elsewhere) are 'UFO's' until the scientists prove they are "meteorites" (or not). This seems like a perfect time to acknowledge the hard work and efforts the scientific community has done for those of us who primarily work with NWA material. Without this handful of dedicated scientists, many Saharan finds would never be recognized as meteorites and brought to the many public and private collections throughout the world. Their work has added valuable information that may not have been discovered with these hot desert finds. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alien life - we are the proof > Hi Eric - > > Several times during our evolution we were nearly wiped out by impacts. > It was very close, and unfortunately due to inaction in detection budgets it is still too close to call. > > If other solar systems have accretion mechanics similar to ours, and there is no reason to assert otherwise, this factor must play a real role in Drake equation estimates. If other intelligent beings have bureaucrats as stupid as ours, and there is no reason to think anything else, then this must play a role in Drake equation estimates as well. > > Based on our sample of one, we can forget about searching for extra terrestrial intelligence (SETI), and should instead be concentrating our efforts on the search for extra-terrestrial stupidity (SETS). > > "I saw Elvis on a UFO, > sitting there with Howard Hughes... > I saw Elvis on a UFO, > wearing those blue suede shoes..." > > Maybe what we need is more UFOs and fewer bolides, given all the NWA material on the market... > > Good hunting, all > Ed > (Catching up with old mail) > > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Thank You Scientists!"
Hi - Agree completely, Greg. The classification labs and all concerned deserve our thanks. Without NWA I wouldn't have my little chip of the Moon, with which I will be delighting some 2,000 young people next week. I hope you and your brother are holding on to your planetary cutting dust - good hunting and best wishes - Ed --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Greg Hupe wrote: > From: Greg Hupe > Subject: "Thank You Scientists!" > To: "E.P. Grondine" , e...@meteoritesusa.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 6:41 PM > Hello Ed, > > You stated, "Maybe what we need is more UFOs and fewer > bolides, given all the NWA material on the market..." > > All NWA material (and other material found elsewhere) are > 'UFO's' until the scientists prove they are "meteorites" (or > not). > > This seems like a perfect time to acknowledge the hard work > and efforts the scientific community has done for those of > us who primarily work with NWA material. Without this > handful of dedicated scientists, many Saharan finds would > never be recognized as meteorites and brought to the many > public and private collections throughout the world. Their > work has added valuable information that may not have been > discovered with these hot desert finds. > > Best regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > gmh...@htn.net > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > > > - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alien life - we are the > proof > > > > Hi Eric - > > > > Several times during our evolution we were nearly > wiped out by impacts. > > It was very close, and unfortunately due to inaction > in detection budgets it is still too close to call. > > > > If other solar systems have accretion mechanics > similar to ours, and there is no reason to assert otherwise, > this factor must play a real role in Drake equation > estimates. If other intelligent beings have bureaucrats as > stupid as ours, and there is no reason to think anything > else, then this must play a role in Drake equation estimates > as well. > > > > Based on our sample of one, we can forget about > searching for extra terrestrial intelligence (SETI), and > should instead be concentrating our efforts on the search > for extra-terrestrial stupidity (SETS). > > > > "I saw Elvis on a UFO, > > sitting there with Howard Hughes... > > I saw Elvis on a UFO, > > wearing those blue suede shoes..." > > > > Maybe what we need is more UFOs and fewer bolides, > given all the NWA material on the market... > > > > Good hunting, all > > Ed > > (Catching up with old mail) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Thank You Scientists!"
Hello Ed, You stated, "Maybe what we need is more UFOs and fewer bolides, given all the NWA material on the market..." All NWA material (and other material found elsewhere) are 'UFO's' until the scientists prove they are "meteorites" (or not). This seems like a perfect time to acknowledge the hard work and efforts the scientific community has done for those of us who primarily work with NWA material. Without this handful of dedicated scientists, many Saharan finds would never be recognized as meteorites and brought to the many public and private collections throughout the world. Their work has added valuable information that may not have been discovered with these hot desert finds. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alien life - we are the proof Hi Eric - Several times during our evolution we were nearly wiped out by impacts. It was very close, and unfortunately due to inaction in detection budgets it is still too close to call. If other solar systems have accretion mechanics similar to ours, and there is no reason to assert otherwise, this factor must play a real role in Drake equation estimates. If other intelligent beings have bureaucrats as stupid as ours, and there is no reason to think anything else, then this must play a role in Drake equation estimates as well. Based on our sample of one, we can forget about searching for extra terrestrial intelligence (SETI), and should instead be concentrating our efforts on the search for extra-terrestrial stupidity (SETS). "I saw Elvis on a UFO, sitting there with Howard Hughes... I saw Elvis on a UFO, wearing those blue suede shoes..." Maybe what we need is more UFOs and fewer bolides, given all the NWA material on the market... Good hunting, all Ed (Catching up with old mail) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you!
Back in May I posted a request for 'giveaway' meteorites for a series of presentations I was giving to school students. I realised last night that in the rush to finish for the summer, writing about it for Meteorite magazine and the birth of our second child I never publicly thanked those that came to my aid. Two people in particular helped me out. Mark Crawford, a fellow British collector, who quickly sent me some NWA fragments and tektites, entirely at his own cost, which I have used as prizes in a competition following on from the presentations. Since the event only took place the week before we finished for the summer, I'll be giving those out next week when we return to school. Sonny Clary, who sent me 90(!) fragments of a 120lb chondrite he found in Nevada in 2007. Shipping alone was almost $50, and I cannot imagine the time invested in making a find like this, but Sonny never asked for a penny (US readers may substitute the word 'dime' for 'penny'). Truly amazing generosity, which allowed every single one of the students involved to take a piece of space-rock home on the day. If you haven't already seen it check out Geoff Notkin's article: http://tucsoncitizen.com/lizard/2009/08/24/ralph-sonny-clary-meteorite-hunter-and-philanthropist-makes-important-donation-to-british-school-kids/ And keep an eye out for the upcoming Meteorite magazine article! Regards, Matt. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
Paul said it I agree! Steve --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Paul Harris wrote: > From: Paul Harris > Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! > To: "Meteorite List" > Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:08 PM > Dear Art, > > I would like to publicly thank you for: > > -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 > years. > -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite > community that I rely on every day. > -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of > roughness from time to time without interference. > -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to > change your time proven model. > -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self > responsibility, not over regulation. > > Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how > appreciated you are for the service you provide. > > Paul Harris > The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. > > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
In a message dated 7/24/2009 6:18:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com writes: Thank You Art! HELLO PAUL. MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY.WELL AND SIMPLY STATED.WE HAVE SEEN THE LIST CHANGER COME AND GO OVER THE YEARS AND EVEN START OTHER LISTS AND TRY TO CONVERT US TO THEIR LIST.FINALLY SOME SANITY HAS ARRIVED. THANKS FOR POSTING PAUL. BEST REGARDS;HERMAN ARCHER IMCA# 2770. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377105x1201454426/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
Thank you too. Suggestion: For each attacking, ranting, flaming ect. posting, the author has to send 10 bucks on Art's paypal account, for maintaining the list (and for him buying a yacht, if we carry on in that way we did the last weeks). Best. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jerry Flaherty Gesendet: Samstag, 25. Juli 2009 03:23 An: Paul Harris; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! Second loud and clear -- From: "Paul Harris" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:08 PM To: "Meteorite List" Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! > Dear Art, > > I would like to publicly thank you for: > > -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 years. > -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite community that I rely > on every day. > -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of roughness from time > to time without interference. > -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to change your time > proven model. > -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self responsibility, > not over regulation. > > Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how appreciated you are for > the service you provide. > > Paul Harris > The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. > > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
Double ditto! Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of spacerocks...@aol.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:51 PM To: Paul Harris; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! I to would like to thank Art! Where else would I get to post all those great photos?!! MJ http://www.rocksfromspace.org --Original Message-- From: Paul Harris Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! Sent: Jul 24, 2009 6:08 PM Dear Art, I would like to publicly thank you for: -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 years. -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite community that I rely on every day. -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of roughness from time to time without interference. -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to change your time proven model. -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self responsibility, not over regulation. Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how appreciated you are for the service you provide. Paul Harris The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Thumbed On My BlackBerry __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
Second loud and clear -- From: "Paul Harris" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:08 PM To: "Meteorite List" Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! Dear Art, I would like to publicly thank you for: -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 years. -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite community that I rely on every day. -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of roughness from time to time without interference. -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to change your time proven model. -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self responsibility, not over regulation. Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how appreciated you are for the service you provide. Paul Harris The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
I to would like to thank Art! Where else would I get to post all those great photos?!! MJ http://www.rocksfromspace.org --Original Message-- From: Paul Harris Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! Sent: Jul 24, 2009 6:08 PM Dear Art, I would like to publicly thank you for: -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 years. -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite community that I rely on every day. -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of roughness from time to time without interference. -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to change your time proven model. -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self responsibility, not over regulation. Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how appreciated you are for the service you provide. Paul Harris The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Thumbed On My BlackBerry __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:19:43 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Here here! The only way I could have said it better would be in a limerick. >(Hint, hint) There once was a fellow named Art who gave the metlist a start it draws quite a crowd its quiet, then loud its hard not to rhyme this with "fart". __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
Here here! The only way I could have said it better would be in a limerick. (Hint, hint) Anita - Original Message From: Paul Harris To: Meteorite List Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:08:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You Art! Dear Art, I would like to publicly thank you for: -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 years. -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite community that I rely on every day. -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of roughness from time to time without interference. -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to change your time proven model. -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self responsibility, not over regulation. Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how appreciated you are for the service you provide. Paul Harris The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You Art!
Dear Art, I would like to publicly thank you for: -Letting me freely use your meteorite-list for the last 13 years. -Being the communication backbone of the meteorite community that I rely on every day. -Allowing the list to cycle through it's periods of roughness from time to time without interference. -Knowing that list members will come and go and not to change your time proven model. -Knowing that true freedom and success come from self responsibility, not over regulation. Thank you for all you do and I hope you know how appreciated you are for the service you provide. Paul Harris The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [Thank You] WEST METEORITE HUNT - Greg Hupe & Friends
Dear Lists Members, re: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Hupe_West.html I would like to thank Michael Johnson for putting together a web page of my West, Texas meteorites finds and photos of some of the sights. I consider the hunt more than just the stones, it was also a treasure to meet people who I had never met in person before, meeting new friends and the visual treasure we encountered that the farmlands of Texas had to offer. "Thank You" again, Michael Johnson, very professional job and very kind of you to do!!! I hope everyone enjoys the photos! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] WEST METEORITE HUNT - Greg Hupe & Friends http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Hupe_West.html __ Michael Johnson http://www.spacerocksinc.com http://www.rocksfromspace.org http://www.sikhote-alin.org **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219858252x1201366219/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you sterling
I certainly second those sentiments. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: To: ; "Meteorites USA" ; "Sterling K. Webb" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you sterling Sterling, Just a quick note to thank you for all the good work you do for this list. There are a number of great people that contribute to this list but You are by far THE most significant contributor of all. If someone is drowning , you try to save them. Unlike others (Garrison) who simply describe the water conditions. Your posts are always relevant and interesting and you are a true class act. Please keep up the great work. Carl Esparza IMCA 5829 meteoritemax "Sterling K. Webb" wrote: Eric Wichman wrote: > I've got a few silly questions... > Let's say you had a large canon powered by compressed air > or some other high pressure gas. Why not use a small rocket or a rail gun or a mass driver or...? Doesn't matter to the problem how you launch it, OK? > If you fired a projectile ( a moon rock ) from the surface > of the moon toward Earth, would you be able to create > enough force to reach escape velocity? That's an engineering question. If you're a good enough engineer, the answer is YES. > Would the projectile continue to increase speed after leaving > the barrel of the canon...? Eric, go read a book by that nice Mr. Galileo or Mr. Newton. Seriously. Get a simple old-fashioned physics text about dynamics and the basic laws of motion and energy. If you toss a rock, does it continue to speed up AFTER it leaves your hand? If it did, then the experience of tossing a rock would be that it goes further and further, faster and faster, until it's so fast that it begins to glow with frictional heat and blazes out the Earth's atmosphere like a meteorite! Funny. When I toss a rock, it just makes a little arc and goes Plop! in my neighbor's yard. > or does it stay at the velocity from which it leaves the barrel? If you toss a rock straight up, does it continue at the same constant 32mph that it had when it left your hand and climb at a steady speed upward against the Earth's gravity, until it leaves the Earth's atmosphere behind and enters space... all at a stately 32mph? When I toss a rock straight up, it slows down and down until it can't go any higher, then falls back and hits me on the head. In the interests of experimental science, I suggest you get some good hefty rocks and try these tests. Space travel would be so easy if your Laws of Motion were true. OK, skip the tests. You're on the Moon. You pick up a big rock and fit it into your Super Duper Steam Powered Slingshot, capable of firing a rock at 2380 meters per second, which oddly enough is the Moon's excape velocity. (Actually you could be a bit slower and still get to the Earth.) The rock leaves the Super Duper Steam Powered Slingshot at 2380 meters per second. After only one second of traveling upward against the Moon's gravity, the rock is only traveling at 2378.378 meters per second. That's because the Moon's gravity is pulling back down on the rock with a force sufficient to slow it down by 1.622 meters per second. The Moon's gravity will continue to slow the rock at the rate of 1.622 meters per second per second until, about 2 days later, the rock is just barely crawling along at a snail's pace thousands of miles above the Moon, when it reaches a place where the strong gravity of the faraway Earth is pulling foward on the rock just as strongly as the gravity of the much closer but weaker Moon is pulling back on it, and the rock starts to fall toward the Earth, now gaining speed instead of losing it. Three days or so later, your mild-mannered rock will come blazing into the Earth's atmosphere at a speed of almost 11,186 meters per second! > Would the stones survive the trip through our atmosphere? Here's where aim counts: the right angle of approach or perhaps a grazing orbit or two before re-entry... Anything is possible if you have sufficiently accurate control of your path. It's do-able. > If the projectile (moon rock) did survive all of this, > would it be considered a meteorite? That would depend on how the argument on this List came out... > Scientifically speaking, wouldn't this be an interesting experiment? Scientifically speaking, no... But, dude, it would be so much kewler than a potato cannon or even a watermelon cannon! Sterling K. Webb __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mai
[meteorite-list] Thank you sterling
Sterling, Just a quick note to thank you for all the good work you do for this list. There are a number of great people that contribute to this list but You are by far THE most significant contributor of all. If someone is drowning , you try to save them. Unlike others (Garrison) who simply describe the water conditions. Your posts are always relevant and interesting and you are a true class act. Please keep up the great work. Carl Esparza IMCA 5829 meteoritemax "Sterling K. Webb" wrote: > Eric Wichman wrote: > > > I've got a few silly questions... > > Let's say you had a large canon powered by compressed air > > or some other high pressure gas. > > Why not use a small rocket or a rail gun or a mass driver or...? > Doesn't matter to the problem how you launch it, OK? > > > > If you fired a projectile ( a moon rock ) from the surface > > of the moon toward Earth, would you be able to create > > enough force to reach escape velocity? > > That's an engineering question. If you're a good enough > engineer, the answer is YES. > > > > Would the projectile continue to increase speed after leaving > > the barrel of the canon...? > > Eric, go read a book by that nice Mr. Galileo or Mr. Newton. > Seriously. Get a simple old-fashioned physics text about dynamics > and the basic laws of motion and energy. > > If you toss a rock, does it continue to speed up AFTER > it leaves your hand? If it did, then the experience of tossing > a rock would be that it goes further and further, faster > and faster, until it's so fast that it begins to glow with > frictional heat and blazes out the Earth's atmosphere like > a meteorite! > > Funny. When I toss a rock, it just makes a little arc > and goes Plop! in my neighbor's yard. > > > > or does it stay at the velocity from which it leaves the barrel? > > If you toss a rock straight up, does it continue at the same > constant 32mph that it had when it left your hand and climb > at a steady speed upward against the Earth's gravity, until it > leaves the Earth's atmosphere behind and enters space... > all at a stately 32mph? > > When I toss a rock straight up, it slows down and down > until it can't go any higher, then falls back and hits me on > the head. In the interests of experimental science, I suggest > you get some good hefty rocks and try these tests. Space > travel would be so easy if your Laws of Motion were true. > > OK, skip the tests. > > You're on the Moon. You pick up a big rock and fit it > into your Super Duper Steam Powered Slingshot, capable > of firing a rock at 2380 meters per second, which oddly > enough is the Moon's excape velocity. (Actually you could > be a bit slower and still get to the Earth.) > > The rock leaves the Super Duper Steam Powered Slingshot > at 2380 meters per second. After only one second of traveling > upward against the Moon's gravity, the rock is only traveling > at 2378.378 meters per second. That's because the Moon's > gravity is pulling back down on the rock with a force sufficient > to slow it down by 1.622 meters per second. > > The Moon's gravity will continue to slow the rock at the rate > of 1.622 meters per second per second until, about 2 days later, > the rock is just barely crawling along at a snail's pace thousands > of miles above the Moon, when it reaches a place where the > strong gravity of the faraway Earth is pulling foward on the rock > just as strongly as the gravity of the much closer but weaker > Moon is pulling back on it, and the rock starts to fall toward > the Earth, now gaining speed instead of losing it. > > Three days or so later, your mild-mannered rock will come > blazing into the Earth's atmosphere at a speed of almost 11,186 > meters per second! > > > Would the stones survive the trip through our atmosphere? > > Here's where aim counts: the right angle of approach or perhaps > a grazing orbit or two before re-entry... Anything is possible > if you have sufficiently accurate control of your path. It's > do-able. > > > > If the projectile (moon rock) did survive all of this, > > would it be considered a meteorite? > > That would depend on how the argument on this List came out... > > > > Scientifically speaking, wouldn't this be an interesting experiment? > > Scientifically speaking, no... But, dude, it would be so much > kewler than a potato cannon or even a watermelon cannon! > > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you West Texas!
Hi All, We're back from West Texas now and after letting things slow down a bit and catching up on some much needed work I've finally got a moment to post some photos. I'd like to thank all you guys out there in meteorite land. My good friends, Mike Miller & Ruben Garcia (finally got to meet you Ruben after talking on the phone for 2 years!) Without you guys' help this trip might not have been a success. A big hello and thank you also go out to our new friends Michael Cottingham and Christopher Cottingham for his first finds, congratulations to Christopher for his gorgeous 44 gram oriented West meteorite. It was a pleasure to be there to see it happen. And to Keith and Dana Jenkerson, we appreciate the advice! Jim Baxter, I didn't forget you... It was very good to meet you Jim! I certainly can't forget Mike Farmer, Robert Ward, Shauna Russell, Greg Hupe, and their crew for their generosity in sharing the information. It was good to meet all you guys finally. A big hello also to Steve Arnold & Geoff Notkin. It was good to finally meet you Steve, I have a new found respect for you now. And to Geoff, glad to meet you again, this time in the field. Too bad we didn't get a chance to talk a bit. I also want to thank all the people of West Texas for their Texas sized hearts and their overwhelming generosity. If it weren't for your hospitality the scientists and hunters wouldn't have had the opportunity to collect as many specimens and the meteorites would be plowed over or rotted away never to be seen again. Not only did you help us collect meteorites, you helped further science and the knowledge of our universe! I thank you very much for your kindness, and the meteorite world thanks you, sincerely. As for Hopper, the meteorite finding dog... ;) Well all I can say is I have to chuckle a bit!. We got to spend two days with Hopper. No photos of the dog but I did somehow manage to get on the news in the Hopper segment New 8 Austin filmed. I'm only in the opening scenes but it was kind of exciting to see yourself on TV. Weird feeling really. Hopper liked everyone, well, everyone that might have food! She also loved to mess with the cows. My first experience with Hopper was startling. Literally! I was out in the middle of a field minding my own meteorite hunting business and all of a sudden out of the middle of nowhere as I was staring at the ground searching intently for the elusive West Texas meteorite this black furry creature runs up to me and I about jump out of my boots! You have to picture this, I'm concentrating so hard on the ground at finding a meteorite that I'm oblivious to my surroundings and out of nowhere a black hairy thing comes walking up within inches of my leg and I was staring into the eyes of the beast! ;) lol My heart leapt and I had to choke back a little noise. THAT was MY first experience with Hopper! Sweet dog really… Another little tidbit of info for all you guys that went Gaa Gaa over Hopper. Since we did get a chance to hunt for two days with Hopper running around and frolicking in the fields of West Texas, we got to see a side of Hopper most didn’t have the good fortune to witness. They certainly experienced it, even if it was unknowingly. Dogs will be dogs, and we all know dogs like stinky stuff. Really stinky stuff! And what do dogs do when they find stinky stuff? That’s right, they roll in it! Hopper came up to me and played and right off I noticed how nice a dog she was. She was so friendly she would walk up to anyone. I petted her and played a little with her in the field and went back to hunting. Then a couple hours later, I witnessed her rolling around on the ground about 20 feet or so away, and when I walked over to see what was going on, that’s when I noticed the nice big, ugly and very dead raccoon Hopper was rolling around in. Eew, Yuck! I promptly washed my hands. I tried to warn everyone I saw, but they were so caught up they didn’t care. You know the old saying “you don’t know where that’s been.” Well… This in no way detracts from her meteorite hunting prowess, or her awesome personality! Hopper is a great dog. I wish I had a meteorite hunting dog like her. She was super and deserves every steak she’s fed. She truly is a one of a kind dog. She does need a bath though. OK, OK… I know you guys are wanting to see some photos so here they are… I was fortunate enough to find one stone. It’s not much but it made the trip all that more rewarding, and 10, 20, or 50 years from now I can say Feb 25th 2009 I went, hunted, and found a piece of the West Texas meteorite fall. A witnessed fall, and my first chased meteorite fall expedition. PHOTOS: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/west-texas-meteorite.htm We hunted all over West, and had help from some of the best hunters in the business, but it comes down to being able to spot them on the ground, and there's no substitute for experience in the field. It take
[meteorite-list] Thank you for the I.M.C.A. discussion
Hello lists, thank you for the very wide discussion, which I could stimulate. It are the greenhorns, the newcomer who purchase the most metwrongs. But never an IMCA member should sell this shit. He should carry out the code of ethics. We all do mistakes but if someone do a mistake as an IMCA member selling unintended a metwrong to newcomers (and all other) he should iimmediately correct the deal if the customer can prove the assertion of wrongness. It is dishonorable to start an act of defensiveness and to bombard the new collector with allegations that he is not a professional person and has to stop talking. I did not know whether the IMCA has in the past suspended dishonorable member, but I think it is time to start. Otherwise this association will lost reputation. Uwe, who had bought from 2 IMCA member Mekong iron as Nantan. AOL eMail auf Ihrem Handy! Ab sofort können Sie auch unterwegs Ihre AOL email abrufen. Registrieren Sie sich jetzt kostenlos. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You List Members!
Thank you, Ruben! The videos are great - always entertaining and informative. Isn't it about time for another one. . .? You did a great job on the article as well. Keep up the good work. Melva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:12 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You List Members! Hi all, I just wanted to say thank you for all the emails I've received regarding the Sky and Telescope article - Oct. 2008 issue - that Geoff and I wrote. I also wanted to say thanks for over 175,000 views on youtube and 102 subscribers! When I started making videos last July I never thought that in just over a year I'd have made over 25 meteorite related videos and that they would have been so well received. Thanks again, Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You List Members!
Hi all, I just wanted to say thank you for all the emails I've received regarding the Sky and Telescope article - Oct. 2008 issue - that Geoff and I wrote. I also wanted to say thanks for over 175,000 views on youtube and 102 subscribers! When I started making videos last July I never thought that in just over a year I'd have made over 25 meteorite related videos and that they would have been so well received. Thanks again, Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Thank You" from an 8 year meteorite fan.
Hi all, Wow! Since I posted that last email I've had people emailing and telling me what they sent. It looks like little Josh recieved between 20-30 meteorites and tons of photos. Thanks also to Paul and Jim (Meteorite-Times) who sent meteorites as well as Jims Meteor Crater book. We have some cool prople on this list! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Thank You" from an 8 year meteorite fan.
Good evening Folks, I have to say.it makes a heart feel good.and feel proud. Thanks once again to the Folks belonging to our list, another inquisitive mind is primed for our beloved vocation/avocation. Sometimes, it takes so little to mean so much. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 12/11/2007 9:38:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Ruben Garcia) writes: Hi all, After I posted a "help" letter from an 8 year old meteorite fan, several people came to the rescue. As far as I can tell he received at least 8 meteorites and lots of pictures from Delbert Waterbury, Jeff Hodges and Don Edwards as well as others. Below is the link to his thank you letter. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/youngmeteoritefan.htm **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Thank You" from an 8 year meteorite fan.
Hi all, After I posted a "help" letter from an 8 year old meteorite fan, several people came to the rescue. As far as I can tell he recieved at least 8 meteorites and lots of pictures from Delbert Waterbury, Jeff Hodges and Don Edwards as well as others. Below is the link to his thank you letter. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/youngmeteoritefan.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You
On behalf of the Kriegh family and friends, thank you for all of the kind tributes to Jim. The members of the meteorite list contributed nearly one hundred tributes to Jim along with their fond memories. Best regards, Larry and Twink Monrad __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you all.....Everything has been sold!
Hi All, I just returned to check my email after leaving for a couple of hours. Thank you all.Everything has been sold! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you all!!!!
Hi all, My son and I just got home from a Diamondbacks game(they lost). I noticed that I've received 50 emails over the last 24 hours from list members wishing me well. Many asking me to think about coming back. I'm very moved! Thank you all! I will definitely take 6-12 months off and who knows if I can cure my skin problems maybe I will come back again. With people like Paul Harris, Geoff Notkin, Cindy Sue, Mike Farmer, John Birdsell, John Gwilliam, Maria and the other 43 friends that emailed it can't be all badright? For now Ken has asked to post some of my recent adventures on the IMCA website. Thanks again, Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you Matteo
Hello all, Thank you Matteo. Yesterday morning early when I first checked the eBay listings, I saw an Aubrite listed. After Planetaries and Texas specimens, Aubrites are my favorite, so I placed a bid. A bit later in the day, reviewing my finances and bills (income, property and school taxes) due in January, I realized that I was in trouble ... way too many bills and definitely too little money. I then asked Matteo to please cancel my bid. He courteously agreed and has done so. I truly appreciate it. Over the last 5 years (2002-2006) I've purchased over 100 different specimens from him with no problems and look forward to purchasing more as I can. Again, thank you Matteo. I appreciate your consideration. Don Edwards Houston, TX __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you one and all
Dear Listers, I've really enjoyed this evening's chat, but it is now past my bedtime here in the frozen northeast. Time to hibernate for 8 hours. You have all been more than gracious hosts and I thank you for putting up with my boldness. Until tomorrow, when I will undoubtedly have more questions than a 10 year old in sex ed class. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You JOEL and My Best Wishes
Joel: I want to thank you for the effort you give us to deliver a quality publication over these past years. You always answered my e-mails, and I thank you for that. And especially you gave me the benefit of the doubt by publishing a series of my articles on meteorite craters. For that I sincerely thank you. My thoughts are with you and wish you a speedy recovery. Yours Charles O'Dale Meeting Chair Ottawa RASC http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/index.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you...
Hello all Thank you all, for your sympathy. I am deeply touched. Thank you very very much. Bless you all Lars __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you for your input!
Dear Bill, List; It may be worth noting again, be sure that you remember that the visible iron specks are only part of that equation as the total iron is the number for the L or H classification, and even though that WOULD APPEAR to be an L from a visual, if there is more elemental iron, it could be more than an L. Caution needs to be embraced with just visual classification Hope this is insightful to others, Dave F. Bill Southern wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your input about my new chondrite and it seems you all agree for the most part giving me a good idea of what I might have. There was a request for a photo of some with the crust intact so I have added a photo of a 470 gram and a 122 gram piece for you to look at. The larger was the first find... Thanks again for taking the time to give your opinions and I will post the classification information when it is given to me by Lora at ASU. http://www.nuggetshooter.com/fimage/Newfinda1-13-2005.jpg Bill Southern __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you for your input!
Hello All, Thank you for your input about my new chondrite and it seems you all agree for the most part giving me a good idea of what I might have. There was a request for a photo of some with the crust intact so I have added a photo of a 470 gram and a 122 gram piece for you to look at. The larger was the first find... Thanks again for taking the time to give your opinions and I will post the classification information when it is given to me by Lora at ASU. http://www.nuggetshooter.com/fimage/Newfinda1-13-2005.jpg Bill Southern __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you!!
Michael, indeed, thank you! As a new comer to meteorite collectoring, your photos add so much, they give a visual to the discussions on the list. Talk of NWA???, fusion crust, oreinted pieces. It all helps to give a start to the understanding. A picture is worth a thousand words. MAC - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you!! In a message dated 1/16/2005 5:05:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to thank you publicly as well Michael. I've been one of your fans for a long time and apologize for not saying anything until now. Best, JKGwilliam Thank you all for your kind words of support and inspiration of the "Picture of the Day" post. I hope that you all will continue to enjoy them as much as I have enjoyed posting them to the list. I have met some many new friends from this project and am looking forward to meeting more. Thanks again and keep sending me those pictures! ;-) Regards, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 932 Hanging Rock Road Boiling Springs, South Carolina 29316-7401 USA Tel: (864) 578-5188 SPACE ROCKS, INC.: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you!!
In a message dated 1/16/2005 5:05:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to thank you publicly as well Michael. I've been one of your fans for a long time and apologize for not saying anything until now. Best, JKGwilliam Thank you all for your kind words of support and inspiration of the "Picture of the Day" post. I hope that you all will continue to enjoy them as much as I have enjoyed posting them to the list. I have met some many new friends from this project and am looking forward to meeting more. Thanks again and keep sending me those pictures! ;-) Regards, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 932 Hanging Rock Road Boiling Springs, South Carolina 29316-7401 USA Tel: (864) 578-5188 SPACE ROCKS, INC.: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you all!
Hi! I would like to thank those wonderful individuals who have offered me some meteoritic material as per my previous email. Seeing as I received a torrent of abuse from an ex-listee (well, not an ex-listee as he has changed his name), it was nice to feel the warmth of human kindness for a change! You are not a bad lot at all!! ps - Mike Farmer, when you next go to Italy, please email me before you go.. I may have a 'job' for you there! love, peace and relaxation! dave IMCA #0092 Sec BIMS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Thank You" to all of our customers, eBay or otherwise
Dear list members, This is a good time to let every one of our past, current and future customers know we truly appreciate your business. With all of this talk about shipping costs and packaging, the main point is sharing meteorites with others and being able to use the funds we collect from sales to buy more material or find it through expeditions; to make new discoveries, whether they are in the lab or desert. Best regards, Greg and Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock meteoritelab (eBay) naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you for the information
Hi Adam, I didn't think it was off topic at all. I really enjoy getting updates from the different teams when they're out on the hunt. I wouldn't give up on that occurrence, but maybe that's why I probably wouldn't be very successful in you line of work... Please keep us updated - I for one have picked up tips from the past "hunting reports". Viel Glück! Mark Vail, AZ - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you for the information > Dear List, > > I would like to thank those who took the time to respond to my questions > regarding the effects of lightning on trees. After reading several off-List > emails I concluded the damage to the trees was more than likely caused by > lightning. This post may seem a little off topic but when trying to track > down a fall I feel it is important to know what to look for in the field. I > have found that there are a lot of things that cannot, at first, be > explained but thanks to others who shared what they knew about lightning I > will no longer pursue the broken trees as clues in our search. > > This forum has proven several times that sharing information is a key > component in helping others including myself to better understand > meteorites. This includes the many disciplines that are related in one way > or another. > > > Kind Regards, > > Adam Hupe > The Hupe Collection > Team LunarRock > IMCA 2185 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you for the information
Dear List, I would like to thank those who took the time to respond to my questions regarding the effects of lightning on trees. After reading several off-List emails I concluded the damage to the trees was more than likely caused by lightning. This post may seem a little off topic but when trying to track down a fall I feel it is important to know what to look for in the field. I have found that there are a lot of things that cannot, at first, be explained but thanks to others who shared what they knew about lightning I will no longer pursue the broken trees as clues in our search. This forum has proven several times that sharing information is a key component in helping others including myself to better understand meteorites. This includes the many disciplines that are related in one way or another. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You List!
Hello All, Thank you for all of the help that many of you have offered me since I asked the other day. I'm sure that over time I will become much more knowledgable as I get to know the hobby better; with your help of course. Thank you. Allan Lang, if you are out there, please get back to me about your offer you e-mailed me about the other day. Thank you. Best to all, Kirk.. Rob Wesel wrote: > > Hello all - > > We have seen a lot of the new NWA 3118 CV3 in it's individual and fragment > form but not much sliced. I have a few pieces expertly prepared, all showing > abundant chondrules and most showing a huge inclusion that ran straight > through the piece. What you see in the photos is all that I have available. > > Priced at: > 0.1-10.0 grams $8 per gram > 10.1-20.0 grams $7 per gram > 20.1-40.0 grams $6 per gram > >40 grams $5 per gram > > All are sliced nice and thin around 2mm > > I also have two pieces of just the inclusion material that is a sliced > nodule found in the strewnfield, a meteorite within a meteorite showing it's > own fine chondrules. > 0.5 gram endcut $50 > 3.3 gram endcut $300 > > Photos here, sorry to have to use the scanner but they are so polished that > the camera flash was causing all kinds of hell: > http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robandcolleen11197/album?.dir=/b740 > > I also have a few of these left, $12 each: > http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robandcolleen11197/detail?.dir=/2146&.dnm=b354.jpg > > Rob Wesel > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you all for Harald's Information
Dear Harald and List, Thank you to Harald and list members for contacting me. Harald has contacted the person and hopefully we'll see some of Harald's fine images in Meteorite Magazine soon! Thanks, Paul Dear Harald and List, I'm looking to contact Harald. If anyone has his e-mail please forward it to me privately or contact Harald so that he may contact me. Someone is looking to get your permission to use some of your images for an article in Meteorite Magazine. Thank you, Paul ** Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com MeteoriteTimes.com http://www.meteoritetimes.com PMB#455 P.O. Box 7000, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA *** __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
Dean & Keith, Perhaps the problem is the interpretation of the word, "flake," as in "picking up a flake of LDG..." This can be interpreted as: 1) picking up any little bit 2) picking up a piece of flaked tool or piece of debutage made of LDG Best wishes, Michael on 6/12/04 5:37 AM, dean bessey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > WOW KEITH. YOU REALLY CANT GET YOUR THOUGHTS STRAIT. > FIRST YOU MISQUOTE AND PUT WORDS INTO AN ARCHAELOGISTS > MOUTH THAT HE NEVER SAID. AND NOW YOU ARE EVEN > MISQUOTING YOURSELF. NOW YOU SAY: >> In this case, you are the person very confused about >> my arguments. I perfectly agree with you that there > is >> ***nothing** illegal about picking up or collecting >> natural, unmodified pieces of LDG. My discussion had >> nothing to do with the collection of natural pieces >> of LDG > BUT TWO DAYS AGO YOU SAID: > Despite what you have stated, he and other > professional archaeologists have made it very clear, > contrary to you have claimed, me that even picking > an LDG flake up off the shifting sandy desert floor > and transporting it / exporting it without permission > from either Egypt or Libya is unethical and illegal > behavior. It doesn't matter if this Egyptian or Libyan > > artifact is in a museum of not. It is still looting > and > it is still unethical and immoral according to the > archaeologists, whom I have talked to. > SO NOW YOU 100% CONLICT WITH WHAT YOU SAID TWO DAYS > AGO. > MAYBE YOU HAVE JUST NOW CHANGED YOUR MIND? > CHEERS > DEAN > PS: THE CAPS IS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN EASILY TELL MY > WRITING FROM YOUR MISQUOTES. > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." - Hermann Goering -- When Jesus said "Love your enemies" I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- For perspective, try THIS: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html -- cool message fro Ben & Jerry: www.TrueMajority.org/oreo -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
Dear Keith, LIST, So, archaeology ~smarkeology, lets get back to meteorite topics and stave this trouble making duck of what's seemingly become a personal agenda. Let the archaeology duck seek somewhere else to squawk and discharge waste product. Sincerely, Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dean bessey wrote: FIRST YOU MISQUOTE AND PUT WORDS INTO AN ARCHAELOGISTS MOUTH THAT HE NEVER SAID. AND NOW YOU ARE EVEN MISQUOTING YOURSELF. NOW YOU SAY: I am not misquoting the archaeologist, as far as the potential illegal and unethical nature of trading and owning artifacts composed of Libyan, which is what was being discussed. What the archaeologist stated in a post made by a professional archaeologist to the "Archaeology List". The full post can found at: http://listserv.tamu.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind0406&L=arch-l&F=&S=&P=4205 If anyone is putting completely false words into s person's mouth, it is Mr. Dean. When I talked about flakes below, I ***wasn't** talking about natural pieces of Libyan Desert Glass when I wrote: Despite what you have stated, he and other professional archaeologists have made it very clear, contrary to you have claimed, me that even picking an LDG flake up off the shifting sandy desert floor and transporting it / exporting it without permission from either Egypt or Libya is unethical and illegal behavior. It doesn't matter if this Egyptian or Libyan" When I was using the term "flake" I was using the term in its archaeological definition. In this definition, a flake is a man-made artifact. In that case, I was talking about artifacts, not natural pieces of LDG. I apologize if that terminology wasn't clear. However, if had bothered to look at the context of the discussion, instead of flying off the handle, you would have seen that I consistently referred to **artifacts** composed of Libyan Desert Glass in the discussion as being potential illegal to trade in. Dean wrote: SO NOW YOU 100% CONLICT WITH WHAT YOU SAID TWO DAYSAGO. MAYBE YOU HAVE JUST NOW CHANGED YOUR MIND? I didn't change my mind, it is just that their some confusion of the definition of "flake"/ If Dean would bother to read the various posts it is quite clear that only artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass is being discussed. Only time will tell whether people need to be careful about trading in artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass. Yours, Keith Louisiana __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
dean bessey wrote: >FIRST YOU MISQUOTE AND PUT WORDS INTO >AN ARCHAELOGISTS MOUTH THAT HE NEVER >SAID. AND NOW YOU ARE EVEN >MISQUOTING YOURSELF. NOW YOU SAY: I am not misquoting the archaeologist, as far as the potential illegal and unethical nature of trading and owning artifacts composed of Libyan, which is what was being discussed. What the archaeologist stated in a post made by a professional archaeologist to the "Archaeology List". The full post can found at: http://listserv.tamu.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind0406&L=arch-l&F=&S=&P=4205 If anyone is putting completely false words into s person's mouth, it is Mr. Dean. When I talked about flakes below, I ***wasn't** talking about natural pieces of Libyan Desert Glass when I wrote: >Despite what you have stated, he and >other professional archaeologists have >made it very clear, contrary to you >have claimed, me that even picking >an LDG flake up off the shifting sandy >desert floor and transporting it / >exporting it without permission >from either Egypt or Libya is unethical >and illegal behavior. It doesn't matter >if this Egyptian or Libyan" When I was using the term "flake" I was using the term in its archaeological definition. In this definition, a flake is a man-made artifact. In that case, I was talking about artifacts, not natural pieces of LDG. I apologize if that terminology wasn't clear. However, if had bothered to look at the context of the discussion, instead of flying off the handle, you would have seen that I consistently referred to **artifacts** composed of Libyan Desert Glass in the discussion as being potential illegal to trade in. Dean wrote: >SO NOW YOU 100% CONLICT WITH WHAT YOU >SAID TWO DAYSAGO. MAYBE YOU HAVE JUST >NOW CHANGED YOUR MIND? I didn't change my mind, it is just that their some confusion of the definition of "flake"/ If Dean would bother to read the various posts it is quite clear that only artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass is being discussed. Only time will tell whether people need to be careful about trading in artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass. Yours, Keith Louisiana __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
WOW KEITH. YOU REALLY CANT GET YOUR THOUGHTS STRAIT. FIRST YOU MISQUOTE AND PUT WORDS INTO AN ARCHAELOGISTS MOUTH THAT HE NEVER SAID. AND NOW YOU ARE EVEN MISQUOTING YOURSELF. NOW YOU SAY: > In this case, you are the person very confused about > my arguments. I perfectly agree with you that there is > ***nothing** illegal about picking up or collecting > natural, unmodified pieces of LDG. My discussion had > nothing to do with the collection of natural pieces > of LDG BUT TWO DAYS AGO YOU SAID: Despite what you have stated, he and other professional archaeologists have made it very clear, contrary to you have claimed, me that even picking an LDG flake up off the shifting sandy desert floor and transporting it / exporting it without permission from either Egypt or Libya is unethical and illegal behavior. It doesn't matter if this Egyptian or Libyan artifact is in a museum of not. It is still looting and it is still unethical and immoral according to the archaeologists, whom I have talked to. SO NOW YOU 100% CONLICT WITH WHAT YOU SAID TWO DAYS AGO. MAYBE YOU HAVE JUST NOW CHANGED YOUR MIND? CHEERS DEAN PS: THE CAPS IS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN EASILY TELL MY WRITING FROM YOUR MISQUOTES. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
Keith wrote: > I perfectly agree with you that there is > ***nothing** illegal about picking up or collecting > natural, unmodified pieces of LDG. My discussion had > nothing to do with the collection of natural pieces of > LDG. The only mention of this was that collecting of > any kind in the area containing LDG was prohibited > because of looting of ***artifacts*** in the strewn > field area. In that case, the people collecting only > LDG, not artifacts, were victims of the pothunter > / arrowhead collector types. > > I fully agree that people should be able to collect > and take home natural and unmodified pieces of LDG. > Keith, So why bring this up on a meteorite list? We're not hunting/trading/collecting/selling/studying archaeological artifacts... That's another group isn't it? > my bread and butter geologic work involving finding > sand, gravel, and road fill for companies; generating > oil and gas prospects, which I can sell Some might consider those practices of yours as unethical or morally bankrupt... Though not me - just pointing out that it's easy to nitpick when it comes to moral behaviour. I tend to live and let live - if some poor Arab can sell some pieces of LDG for some barley and oil, that's fine by me... especially pieces that are here today and buried for thousands of years tomorrow. The same goes for mining oil, lead or what ever else people legally engage in to put bread on their table. There are more significant artifacts/sites worthy of study, so many in fact that it would probably take a thousand years to study them all (and by that time they'll be studying us). I don't see picking up flakes as immoral no matter how many academic eggheads say so. Scientists don't have moral leg to stand on if you look at their past behavior. Besides, I know numerous respected PhD's from research one universities who don't agree with most of the current politically correct rhetoric that infects many places of learning these days. I bet many of the "respected" archaeologists you speak of have looted artifacts in their collections, both private and institutional. Seems a bit hypocritical... > prohibit the export of antiquities without permits. If a > person doesn't have the paperwork, which documents > that his Libyan desert glass artifact was exported legally, > a case can be made that the artifact was exported in > violation of either the laws of Egypt or Libya. Since > legally exported artifact are suppose to be sold with > documentation proving that they are legal, the lack of > such, even if the result of negligence on the part of the > person selling it to you failing to provide it, can be used > to argue that the Libyan desert glass artifacts are illicit. > It the owner that has to prove that an artifact was > legally exported with a documented chain-of-custody > going back to the person, who originally received the > license to exported it. If a person doesn't have the > paperwork and don't have this chain-of-custody, the > person don't have the proof that artifact is legal and > the country of origin, whether it be Egypt or Libya > can reclaim it. I think this is wrong. The dealers who were successfully prosecuted in the US & England (for looting in Egypt) weren't successfully prosecuted because they didn't have paperwork - pieces from old collections do not necessarily have documentation. What nailed the case was the fact that they found the detailed journal of the collector which revealed his activities. Most importantly they found some stone reliefs/carvings in his house that were hacked out of a monument. They were exact matches the reliefs that were recently stolen from that monument. In addition, I'm pretty sure that you face prosecution if you are in possession of items of $5,000 or more in value. > Again, someone needs to do a detail study of the antiquity > laws of Egypt, Morocco, and Libya in reference to LEG > artifacts. It seems like people are being much too > complacent about the legally of collecting, buying, and > selling these artifacts. Regardless of whether a minority > of LDG artifacts might be legal, the overall illict trade > in these artifacts is contributing to the destruction of > valuable archaeological sites. Again, I think the laws regarding the possession of "LDG artifacts" has no bearing on the meteorite list. I'll just have to agree to disagree whether the study of flake chippings "contribute to the destruction of valuable archaeological sites". I don't know if I'm engaging in "flaming" here, but I get frustrated with these chicken little/holier that thou arguments. And I'm a bit fatigued after spending the night doing some stargazing and am probably rambling. :-) Respectfully, Mark Bowling __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
Keith, Keith, if you think this was fun I suggest you go bother some other list. This list is for serious discussion, considered arguments and good natured humor. Your contributions on this topic were none of these. Do it again? More of the same? Forget it! For those who want to read the UNIDRIOT document on stolen cultural property, which is one of many statements on the subject, follow these links: Here is the Website for the UNIDROIT document, which includes a definition of cultural property: http://www.unidroit.org/english/conventions/c-cult.htm And here is a critique of the UNIDROIT document: http://www.city.ac.uk/artspol/schneider.html I'm still waiting to see your list of significant LDG artifacts aside from the scarab. And waiting to see your bibliography of archaeological studies of LDG artifacts. I'm out of town until July... Cheers, Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
dean bessey pounded out with his key caps stuck as if he drunk an entire pot of Lousiana Community Coffee in 2 minutes: ..ranting deleted... >WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU >ARE BAISNG YOUR OPINION ON THAT >PICKING UP UNALTERED LDG IS ILLEGAL In this case, you are the person very confused about my arguments. I perfectly agree with you that there is ***nothing** illegal about picking up or collecting natural, unmodified pieces of LDG. My discussion had nothing to do with the collection of natural pieces of LDG. The only mention of this was that collecting of any kind in the area containing LDG was prohibited because of looting of ***artifacts*** in the strewn field area. In that case, the people collecting only LDG, not artifacts, were victims of the pothunter / arrowhead collector types. I fully agree that people should be able to collect and take home natural and unmodified pieces of LDG. ..ranting deleted... >NO IT DOES. EXPORTING ARTIFACTS >FROM EGYPT IS ILLEGAL. NOBODY >DISPUTED THAT ..ranting deleted... If you would read the various posts, you would find the discussion was concerned only ***artifacts** manufactured from LDG. In fact, many people greatly disputed to what degree, if at all, whether it was either illegal, legal enforceable., unenforceable, moral, immoral, ethical, or unethical to collect **artifacts** manufactured from LDG and export them from Egypt and under what circumstances. Dean you really need to read what you are commenting on and unlock the caps key before composing a post. Also, even if I disagreed with you, which I don't, it would help your arguments, if you used standard punctuation and wrote in logical sentences instead of just shouting what nasty, evil you-know what I am. Yours, Keith Louisiana __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
> It was a fun and spirited discussion about the > "legality" of trading in / owning prehistoric > artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass. NO IT WASNT. IT WAS A DISCUSSION WHERE YOU WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYBODY THAT PICKING UP A FLAKE OF GLASS IN THE DESERT WAS ILLEGAL AND YOU MISREPRESENTED A ARCHAELOGISTS TO MAKE YOUR ARGUEMENT >a middle ground on this discussion doesn't exist; NO IT DOES. EXPORTING ARTIFACTS FROM EGYPT IS ILLEGAL. NOBODY DISPUTED THAT 2.some people find my arguments as unconvincing ESPECIALLY SINEC YOU ARE MISQUOTING PROFESSIONAL ARCHAELOGISTS TO MAKE YOUR ARGUEMENTS > Although I disagree with them, WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU ARE BAISNG YOUR OPINION ON THAT PICKING UP UNALTERED LDG IS ILLEGAL? > (It might be fun to write a paper about this topic > for the Newsletter of the Delta Chapter of the > Louisiana Archaeological Society or even give a > talk on it at the Annual Meeting of the Louisiana > Archaeological Society. It not much, but that is > best that an amateur like me can expect to do.) WHY WOULD THEY BE INTERESTED? THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN OLD ROCKS NEVER BEFORE SEEN BY MAN > I think it would be fun to discuss this topic in > more detail in about 6 to 7 months, HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU HAVE SOME ACTUAL FACTS TO ENLIGHTEN US WITH >which I can sell; and, in my spare time, research the >topic of Egyptian artifacts THIS IS A METEORITE DISCUSSION LIST. THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TOPIC AND THERE ARE DISCUSSION GROUPS FOR IT BUT SINCE THIS IS A METEORITE LIST THIS TOPIC IS NOT RELEVENT HERE > An archaeologist friend has suggested that > interested parties can have a "rematch" on a mailing >list associated REMATCH ABOUT WHAT? NOBODY HAS ANY DISAGREEMENTS WITH YOUR ARCHAELOGISTS. YOUR ARCHAELOGISTS SAID THAT EXPORTING ARTIFACTS FROM EGYPT IS ILLEGAL - WITHER THE ARTIFACT IS MADE FROM SILVER, GOLD, SAND OR LDG. AND EVERYBODY HERE AGREES WITH HIM. > Finally, this discussion inspired my archaeologist > lady friend to come up with a "killer" idea for a > research proposal that the U.S. Customs Service > and the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquites have > expressed interest in providing joint funding for > a period of 9 months. Anyway, she thanks you-all > for all of the always fascinating, entertaining, > and novel arguments and the inspiration. NOW WE ARE IN AGREEMENT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE RESEARCH INTO WHAT HAPPENS WITH ARTIFACTS, AND HOW COUNTRIES VIEWS THEIR CULTURAL LAWS, AND HOW THE LAWS LIKE UNESCO AND UNDROIT PROTECTS OR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISTRUCTION OF CULTURAL PROPERTY. A SERIOUS EFFORT SHOULD BE DONE TO SEE HOW IT WORKS RATHER THAN THE CARTE BLAUNCH ATTIDUDE THAT CERTAIN COUNTRIES HAVE ABOUT EVERYTHING WITHER THEY EVEN WANT IT IN A MUSEUM OR WILL DESTROY IT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH LOW VALUE AND TO EXPENSIVE TO STORE. IN FACT I WISH THAT I COULD BECOME A PART OF SUCH A SERIOUS GOVERNMENT EFFORT. I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DEALERS WHO WOULD GET INVOLVED TO WHO WANT TO MAINTAIN A BUSINESS WHILE RESPONSIBLY AQUIREING NEW ARTIFACTS. IF THERE WERE REASONABLE GUIDLINES DEALERS WOULD COOPERATE AS WILL AS PEOPLE WHO SEARCH FOR STUFF AND IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUCH A SERIOUS STUDY WITH AN OPEN ATTITUDE YOU COULD WELL BE SOMEBODY WHO IS FOREVER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRESERVATION OF MORE WORLD CULTURAL PROPERTY THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD. BRITAIN HAS A CULTURAL LAW TO BE PROUD OF. ANYTHING NEWLY FOUND HAS TO BE OFFERED TO THE MUSEUM COMMUNITY AT A PRICE DETERMINED AS FAIR MARKET VALUE BY A GROUP OF DEALERS. IF NO MUSEUM WANTS IT THEN IT GETS AN EXPORT PERMIT. A COUNTRY LIKE EGYPT WITHOUT THE RESOURCES COULD CLAIM ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO STORE OR STUDY AND ANYTHING NOT OF SUFFICIENT INTEREST COULD BE EXPORTED FREELY WITHOUT BEING DESTROYED. THAT WOULD BE A REAL CULTURAL LAY THAT WOULD WORK. BUT THIS IS NOT AN ARTIFACT AN DMY DISCUSSION IS NOT RELEVENT HERE. SINCERELY DEAN __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate
It was a fun and spirited discussion about the "legality" of trading in / owning prehistoric artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass. Given that 1. it is quite obvious that between I and some people, a middle ground on this discussion doesn't exist; 2. some people find my arguments as unconvincing as I found their arguments, and 3. I and other people have expressed themselves enough for the lurkers to understand each other's position, this is a good time to agree to disagree about this topic and let the topic cool down. Although I disagree with them, I found your arguments quite interesting and I shall think them over, while I attend to other business. (It might be fun to write a paper about this topic for the Newsletter of the Delta Chapter of the Louisiana Archaeological Society or even give a talk on it at the Annual Meeting of the Louisiana Archaeological Society. It not much, but that is best that an amateur like me can expect to do.) I think it would be fun to discuss this topic in more detail in about 6 to 7 months, while I focus on my bread and butter geologic work involving finding sand, gravel, and road fill for companies; generating oil and gas prospects, which I can sell; and, in my spare time, research the topic of Egyptian artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass in more detail. An archaeologist friend has suggested that interested parties can have a "rematch" on a mailing list associated with the Ancient Near East ANE mailing list created specifically for this topic whenever people are ready for it this Fall. In that venue, some of the archaeologists on the ANE Mailing Lists can also participate and give us benefit of their expertise concerning the complex legal and ethical questions that entangled this discussion. It might even be possible to find some sort of middle ground or formulate guidelines for this controversy. Since this topic is more archaeology than meteorites, it will be on-topic and appropriate to discuss matter on such a mailing list. For interested people the archives of the ANE mailing list can be found at: https://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane/ http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/ANE/OI_ANE.html Finally, this discussion inspired my archaeologist lady friend to come up with a "killer" idea for a research proposal that the U.S. Customs Service and the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquites have expressed interest in providing joint funding for a period of 9 months. Anyway, she thanks you-all for all of the always fascinating, entertaining, and novel arguments and the inspiration. Thank You-All and Best regards Keith ST. Tammany Parish, LA __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] THANK YOU ---- Birthday bash & Michael' Blood's auction?
Thats all I needed to see Birthday Bash - Friday 8 p.m. Michael's auction - Saturday 7:30 p.m. THANK YOU, Tim - Original Message - From: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Michael L Blood'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tim Heitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Birthday bash & Blood's auction? > Hi Tim, > > Michael probably assumes everyone "knows" by now that the Michael Blood > auction is on Saturday, February 7th, but I've noticed that lately only > the time has been mentioned, not the date. (You have to go back to one > of Michael's posts on 12/21/2003 to get the date, and even in that post > you would get confused because it says it's the same night as the > Birthday Bash.) > > The Birthday Bash is on Friday night at La Fuente [1749 North Oracle] > from 8pm 'til the Vaca Muertas come home. --Rob > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael L > Blood > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:06 PM > To: Tim Heitz; Meteorite Mailing List > Subject: [meteorite-list] Birthday bash & Blood's auction? > > > Dear Tim, > MICHAEL Blood's auction (what, are we all privates in the military?) > is as follows: > > -Sellers should register and display between 5:30 & 6:30 PM > -Bidders shoudl register, review specimens & socialize 6:30 to 7:30 PM > (No host full bar attached) > -Bidding begins at 7:30 PM sharp. > > I'll let one of those cowboys answer for the other key event > Best wishes, Michael > > > on 1/29/04 3:19 PM, Tim Heitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > BlankPlease post exact times and dates of both the birthday bash and > Blood's > > auction. > > > > Thank You, > > Tim Heitz > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You so much,and Merry Christmas to all
Hay Steve, You are one of the folks I am looking foreword to seeing most. Always positive, take it from Proud Tom like a champ's sense of humor, and over all good guy! LET'S PARTY AT TUCSON! (Maybe I'll have some Cat Mt. at the auction...last year's finally showed up!) Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah to all! Michael on 12/24/03 6:35 AM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Good morning list from cold and snowy chicago.We finally got some snow :( > I want to wish everyone a great MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.I > also want TO thank everyone who bought items from me on ebay.I made a > little extra money during my unemployment months.I was very fortunate this > year to have a meteorite (PARK FOREST),fall in my hometown.And to actually > to have found a meteorite for the first time.WOW!!Call me over enthused, > by I really believe chicago will see another fall close by again, and this > one will be even bigger.Tucson is only 6 weeks away, and I am booked for 4 > days.I cannot wait.Again happy holidays to all.I am also in the process of > totally revamping my website (picture wise),so stay tuned.Again this was > really great to have met alot of you, and I am looking forward to meeting > even more of you.You are always welcome in this wonderful city. > > > steve arnold, chicago, USA!!! > > = > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 > Illinois Meteorites > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- When Jesus said "Love your enemies" I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar & Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You so much,and Merry Christmas to all
Hey Steve.. What are the dates of the days that you will be in Tucson? I want to make sure we hook up again this year. Hopefully you will be there the weekend of the party. Wishing everyone Happy and Safe Holidays... Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You so much,and Merry Christmas to all > Good morning list from cold and snowy chicago.We finally got some snow :( > I want to wish everyone a great MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.I > also want TO thank everyone who bought items from me on ebay.I made a > little extra money during my unemployment months.I was very fortunate this > year to have a meteorite (PARK FOREST),fall in my hometown.And to actually > to have found a meteorite for the first time.WOW!!Call me over enthused, > by I really believe chicago will see another fall close by again, and this > one will be even bigger.Tucson is only 6 weeks away, and I am booked for 4 > days.I cannot wait.Again happy holidays to all.I am also in the process of > totally revamping my website (picture wise),so stay tuned.Again this was > really great to have met alot of you, and I am looking forward to meeting > even more of you.You are always welcome in this wonderful city. > > >steve arnold, chicago, USA!!! > > = > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 > Illinois Meteorites > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You so much,and Merry Christmas to all
Good morning list from cold and snowy chicago.We finally got some snow :( I want to wish everyone a great MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.I also want TO thank everyone who bought items from me on ebay.I made a little extra money during my unemployment months.I was very fortunate this year to have a meteorite (PARK FOREST),fall in my hometown.And to actually to have found a meteorite for the first time.WOW!!Call me over enthused, by I really believe chicago will see another fall close by again, and this one will be even bigger.Tucson is only 6 weeks away, and I am booked for 4 days.I cannot wait.Again happy holidays to all.I am also in the process of totally revamping my website (picture wise),so stay tuned.Again this was really great to have met alot of you, and I am looking forward to meeting even more of you.You are always welcome in this wonderful city. steve arnold, chicago, USA!!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you!
Hello and nice to be back, Firstly I want to thank all of you who gave me sensible possibilities for those mysterious possible meteorites. I have yet to go thru all of the mail to note down what the consensus was, but one thing I did note was that no one said they were not meteoritic - which says a lot about your collective observational skills (how many times has Mo Yousef sent in pics only to dismissed very rapidly!) So, thanks for that! I shall be passing this info onto the very kind donator of these rocks as they are not represented in my collection! Secondly, just done another hospital bout getting my colon de-tumourised (sorry if too much info...) and guess what, heart problems now. 44 years old and fit to be dried, stuffed and sat in a museum somewhere as a representative of the runt of a litter. damn. I would swear harder but there may be young 'uns reading. Everytime I go into hospital I seem to come out sicker than before. So, if I have now responded to your mails in a timely fashion, well, that's why... lovingly yours, dave IMCA #0092 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/entropydave/Keeper2/images/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you, new posting
List, Thanks for all your honest comments, I'll be listing more NWA1827 at ridiculously low prices aafter the Holiday. Nels __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You to Members of Meteorite-List
Here is a list of Park Forest complete, halved and sliced meteorites we are wanting to sell. Please note that the prices per gram have been dropped so that those of you who have waited or could not afford (or justify) earlier offering of these meteorites can now purchase. All prices include domestic shipping and handling costs. Center sliced section named "TC2" weight 20 grams. This meteorite was sixteen days after the fall. Price $250.00 ($12.50/gram) Center sliced section named "TC" weight 22 grams. This meteorite was sixteen days after the fall. Price $275.00 ($12.50/gram) Sliced meteorite named "Creek" weight 25 grams. This meteorite was found seven days after the fall. Price $300.00 ($12.00/gram) Sliced meteorite named "King" weight 41 grams. This meteorite was found less than one day after the fall. Price $500.00 ($12.20/gram) Sliced meteorite named "Chop" weight 43 grams. This meteorite was found sixteen days after the fall. Price $525.00 ($12.21/gram) Sliced meteorite named "Thorn" weight 53 grams. This meteorite was found seven days after the fall. Price $650.00 ($12.26/gram) Sliced meteorite named "Lamb" weight 55 grams. This meteorite was found sixteen days after the fall. Price $675.00 ($12.27/gram) Complete meteorite named "Son of Sam" wieght 85 grams. This meteorite was found eighteen days after the fall. Price $1200.00 ($14.12/gram) Complete meteorite named "Sam" weight 99 grams. This meteorite was found six days after the fall. Price $1600.00 ($16.16/gram) Complete meteorite named "Parks" weight 144 grams. This meteorite was found six days after the fall. Price $2500.00 ($17.36/gram) Complete meteorite named "Chicago" weight 160 grams. This meteorite was found less than one day after the fall. Price $2500.00 ($15.63/gram) Complete meteorite named "Ed" weight 229 grams. This meteorite was found two days after the fall. Price $3500.00 ($15.28/gram) Entire Park Forest Meteorite Listing (listed above) weight 976 grams. Price $ 11750.00* ($12.04/gram) Go to: http://www.mepage.com/meteorite_store.htm for images of listed meteorites. Mark Cramer 708-754-4824 * This offer only remains while list remains unchanged. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] thank you
Hi list. I want to give credit to bob evans for showing me prime spots for where some of the park forest meteorites fell.If it wasn't for him, I might not have found what I found.Thanks again bob.It is nice to have help now and then. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] thank you
Good evening list. I just want to thank everyone who gave me info on the calcalong creek piece. It truly is a outstanding piece.How lucky bob haag was to find it. steveSteve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107 The midwest meteorite collector! I.M.C.A. member #6728 Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.comDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
[meteorite-list] thank you so much
Hello all. Steve Arnold from chicago. This is my brand new email address effective today, nov. 2nd, 2002. The old one, [EMAIL PROTECTED], is know old news. Please email me to this one please. I want to give a round of praise to jason phillips for giving me an enjoyal day. Jason is the owner of rocks from heaven.com. He has an outstanding meteorite collection. Well over 600 meteorites! Mine pales compares to his. I drove downstate to visit him today. I'll tell you, It was worth the 200 mile drive to see him and his collection. I did achive my goal. I was able to trade for the VEEVERS iron main mass. All 37 grams worth. Another score for me for my collection. I was able to pick up 1 gram of LONE TREE meteorite from Iowa, and a couple others. We were both happy of this trade. For three hours we talked, traded ,and just had a great time discussing what really drives our passion for this great hobby. Again thanks to jason and his lovely wife for inviting me into thier home to have a very nice visit. Also if want you to buy meteorites from jason, he has alot to chose from. It is all choice items, that you will not go wrong with.Again thanks jason for a day I'll soon not forget. I just hated the long drive, but it was worth it. steve arnold, chicago!Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107 The midwest meteorite collector! I.M.C.A. member #6728 Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.comDo you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
[meteorite-list] Thank you Rob Elliot!!
Dear listmembers, If you're like me, you enjoy checking out Rob Elliot's website at http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html Rob has one of the largest on-line inventories of meteorites and he updates it frequently. Well, about a year ago, I had my eye on a pretty NWA chondrite, then unclassified, which Rob listed on his site. It had the provisional name NWA 832. That name is now official and it's a killer, fresh L4 Regolith Breccia. Before the classification was complete, I ordered a small slice. Alas, it never arrived. Lost in shipping I guess. Rob extended me credit for the loss and told me he would let me know when he cut more small slices. Well, by God, talk about happy endings!! Rob contacted me last week to tell me he didn't have the heart to cut any more small slices because this beauty would loose too much of its' character if he did. Instead, he let me know he would be sending me a full slice with his complements! Arriving today via DHL was a gorgeous 146.7g slice of NWA 832. You can see it and other slices of this killer regolith breccia on his webpage. Rob, this is one of the kindest and most generous things anyone has ever done for me! I can never repay you. Thanks so much! You are Numero Uno on my hit parade! Best wishes to all, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You
Thank You. That is the most intelligent answer I have ever gotten yet on the belt and meteorite time travel. Very down to Earth on how you presented the information. Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You
Steve Thank you very much for your letter. Where allowed to make mistakes and we all should have a place for understanding and forgivness. And when a person goes out of their way like you have you can only admire them more. Steve if you had such reseacrh on Plymouth my goodness some type type of compesation would need to be given to you. Have you ever heard of the "Chesapeake" the billion dollar gold treasure ship? The research was so good that they literally dropped the anchor on the ship the first day looking for it. Thousands of hours and millions of dollars were saved all due to research. I would like to talk to my associate and see what we can offer you in return for your research. Sometimes thou all the research in the world can be futile and just plain back breaking foot by foot work needs to be done. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!
Hi Mike Ever since this "discussion" started, I could picture the minds of cartoonists (like Dorothy Norton) working overtime with the added motivation of thousands of hobbyists standing (of course with $$ in hand) on either side of the dog wondering and wagering if it's (was?) dead or not. Dave Michael Farmer wrote: > This is the stupidist damned argument I have seen in a very long time. > Why fought over something that occured long before any of us were even born! > WE WILL NEVER know one way or the other, Kevin, you make a great case, but > in the end, it is your opinion, based on good facts, but it proves > absolutely nothing. The stupid dog story is almost a century old, and will > be around after we are dead. Leave it alone, people like it and you cant > prove or disprove it. I am sick of this useless endless circle of Nakhla dog > #$%. > Mike Farmer > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:49 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923! > > > Dear Cmcdon0923: > > > > You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a > > serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?... > > > > Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist, > none > > of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh > if > > you like. > > > > You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees? > > > > Yes. I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and > > zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and > they > > throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential > USA > > Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our > > government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site > > knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot > I > > know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object. > > > > You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story, > > then handle it that way- personally." > > > > Yes. > > > > You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it > > didn't." > > > > Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail. > > > > You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean > it > > did." > > > > Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that > forces a > > person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?" Ron's "law" would have you > wait > > in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time) > > while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the > > USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite, > er, > > man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady. > > > > I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion. > In > > the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed > > it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it > were > > ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces > > "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their > sentences > > with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.) > > > > By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found > > that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in > > 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading > > NWA's. I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the > > truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more > asteroid > > would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such > honor > > for myself (hold your applause). > > > > And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax > > tomorrow. > > > > But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this > IS > > the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's > > all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen. > > > > BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla" > dog > > (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your > > sentiments. > > > > Kevin Kichinka > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!
Isn't it time for your medication? xoxo, MC - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923! > This is the stupidist damned argument I have seen in a very long time. > Why fought over something that occured long before any of us were even born! > WE WILL NEVER know one way or the other, Kevin, you make a great case, but > in the end, it is your opinion, based on good facts, but it proves > absolutely nothing. The stupid dog story is almost a century old, and will > be around after we are dead. Leave it alone, people like it and you cant > prove or disprove it. I am sick of this useless endless circle of Nakhla dog > #$%. > Mike Farmer > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:49 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923! > > > > Dear Cmcdon0923: > > > > You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a > > serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?... > > > > Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist, > none > > of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh > if > > you like. > > > > You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees? > > > > Yes. I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and > > zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and > they > > throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential > USA > > Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our > > government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site > > knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot > I > > know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object. > > > > You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story, > > then handle it that way- personally." > > > > Yes. > > > > You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it > > didn't." > > > > Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail. > > > > You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean > it > > did." > > > > Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that > forces a > > person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?" Ron's "law" would have you > wait > > in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time) > > while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the > > USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite, > er, > > man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady. > > > > I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion. > In > > the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed > > it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it > were > > ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces > > "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their > sentences > > with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.) > > > > By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found > > that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in > > 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading > > NWA's. I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the > > truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more > asteroid > > would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such > honor > > for myself (hold your applause). > > > > And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax > > tomorrow. > > > > But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this > IS > > the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's > > all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen. > > > > BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla" > dog > > (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your > > sentiments. > > > > Kevin Kichinka > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!
This is the stupidist damned argument I have seen in a very long time. Why fought over something that occured long before any of us were even born! WE WILL NEVER know one way or the other, Kevin, you make a great case, but in the end, it is your opinion, based on good facts, but it proves absolutely nothing. The stupid dog story is almost a century old, and will be around after we are dead. Leave it alone, people like it and you cant prove or disprove it. I am sick of this useless endless circle of Nakhla dog #$%. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923! > Dear Cmcdon0923: > > You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a > serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?... > > Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist, none > of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh if > you like. > > You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees? > > Yes. I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and > zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and they > throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential USA > Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our > government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site > knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot I > know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object. > > You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story, > then handle it that way- personally." > > Yes. > > You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it > didn't." > > Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail. > > You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean it > did." > > Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that forces a > person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?" Ron's "law" would have you wait > in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time) > while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the > USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite, er, > man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady. > > I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion. In > the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed > it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it were > ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces > "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their sentences > with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.) > > By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found > that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in > 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading > NWA's. I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the > truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more asteroid > would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such honor > for myself (hold your applause). > > And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax > tomorrow. > > But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this IS > the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's > all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen. > > BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla" dog > (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your > sentiments. > > Kevin Kichinka > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!
Dear Cmcdon0923: You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?... Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist, none of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh if you like. You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees? Yes. I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and they throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential USA Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot I know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object. You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story, then handle it that way- personally." Yes. You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it didn't." Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail. You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean it did." Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that forces a person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?" Ron's "law" would have you wait in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time) while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite, er, man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady. I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion. In the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it were ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their sentences with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.) By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading NWA's. I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more asteroid would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such honor for myself (hold your applause). And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax tomorrow. But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this IS the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen. BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla" dog (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your sentiments. Kevin Kichinka __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
