gpio + ath problems iwth ath AT5212A-00

2005-06-14 Thread Dimitri Georganas
I have tried OpenBSD3.7 -stable with generic kernel with an atheros 
AT5212A-00 on a wrap board and the dmesg showed gpio not configured.
The system crashed every few hours. But performance in between was quite 
good.



Then I installed -current and dmesg showed gpio to be supported.

However, crashes occured immediately after ath0 came up

The message was ath0 timeout...then the system froze.

I had to replace the atheros card by a prism card to avoid problems and 
can't reproduce a dmesg at this time.


I'm aware this is minor information. If this problem is known pls 
advise, if not I will put back
the card asap to reproduce the problem and see what I can find out so I 
can file a decent bug report.




Linus at NewsForge...

2005-06-14 Thread sebastian . rother
A little Interview by Linus (just another Linux vs BSD..) at NewsForge:

http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/06/09/2128249

Kind regards,
Sebastian



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Drews
On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files
 from within gnumeric.
 

OK, these are the dependencies I have for Gnumerics printing:
libgnomeprintui-2.6.2 
gtksourceview-1.0.1
libgnomeprint-2.6.2

do you have these also ?
-- 
Kind regards,
Jonathan



Re: OpenBSD favorable HW

2005-06-14 Thread Ikmal Ahmad
I have run OpenBSD 3.6 and upgrade to OpenBSD 3.7 on Dell PowerEdge 750.

Here was the hardware.
em0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000CT (82547EI) 
em1 at pci3 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541EI)
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 6300ESB SATA rev 0x02: DMA,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to
compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST380013AS
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5

But it's on rack mounted server.  I think the tower server which use
the same hardware should not have any problem

On 6/14/05, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/13/05, Johan P. Lindstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   - dc, em and sk seems to be the way to go, but what to for quad port
   cards? where to find one, brand names, model numbers, revisions
 
  I have a number of machines deployed using the Intel PRO/1000 MT
  quad GigE PCI-X cards, mostly in Dell PowerEdge systems.   They
  work great, though I'm not really pushing the limits.
 
 
 Which Dell server do you have? Are you doing port trunking with that
 Quad GigE cards (i mean: a single I/O channel of 4 GigE?)
 
 Thanks for your feedback.
 
 
   Any one tried the low end on DELL servers (tower models)?
 
  TMK, no Dell server offers a supported SATA controller, this includes the
  low-end rackmount systems with an embedded SATA controller.  Go SCSI.
 
  Many rackmount Dell products (e.g. PE1850) are available with hardware
  RAID on an ami MegaRAID controller, these work great with OpenBSD,
  as noted by Stuart Henderson.
 
 
   or is it a better move to build your own by ordering parts,
   if so, what is popular here?
 
  If you need a support contract on the hardware, rack-dense servers,
  or are looking for a highly available server with dual-power and a hot
  swap drive enclosure, then building your own may not be an option.
 
 
   What I am looking for is HW mirroring of drives with hotswap for
   webservers and quadport nic's
 
  The ability to hot-swap drives requires that everything in the chain
  must support hot swap -- the controller, the drive, and the SCSI
  enclosure or backplane.  This is where buying an integrated server
  pays off  -- if you blow something up in the process of hot-swapping
  drives, you just have one vendor to deal with, no finger-pointing.
 
  Kevin Kadow



Re: Laptop CD Audio

2005-06-14 Thread Raymond Lillard

Christian Jones wrote:

Hi, all.  I've been putting a laptop (Dell Inspiron 1000) through the
motions in order to submit its status to the OpenBSD i386 laptops
page.  In doing so, I've tested out a bunch of things I've never used
before, and I've hit a snag with playing audio CDs (from the raw
device, not mounting and/or ripping them).

I thought I had this one all figured out---I can play audio just fine,
but not from the CD.  Everything's unmuted and maxed out in volume in
mixerctl (below);  I haven't changed any settings in audioctl (also
below).  cdio seems to read and play just fine (status below), but I
get no actual sound.  Even DVDs play great in ogle.


What kernel version?

Where is your dmesg?

I have a Dell Latitude D810 machine.  I have exactly the same
problem, I just haven't gotten around to complaining about
it yet.

My machine has no LINE-OUT jack, only headphones.  I think
the solution may require driver modifications to handle
the new audio hardware in the latest support chip.  I have
no datasheets to even study the problem let alone try to
fix it.  Besides, I have no driver development experience
in OBSD, so I been meaning to try interest one of the regular
developers into taking a look, but haven't had the time to get a
fresh snapshot to see where things are today.  When chasing
new hardware, it is good to try a recent snapshot before
complaining.

You should post a dmesg.  I posted one back in March for
the D810.  See:
http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archive/openbsd-misc/200503/msg00566.html

If it will help things along, I will try to install a
recent snapshot this coming weekend.

Regards,
Ray



OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread James Harless
I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
the basis for their devices.  Are there any that use OpenBSD
similarly?  If so, which?  Any comments on the devices?  Links would
be appreciated.


-James


-- 
What would Bilano do?



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 04:47 am, Jon Drews wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf 
  files
  from within gnumeric.
  
 
 OK, these are the dependencies I have for Gnumerics printing:
 libgnomeprintui-2.6.2 

I have 
libgnomeprintui-2-2.a
libgnomeprintui-2-2.la
libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.1.0

 gtksourceview-1.0.1

I have
/usr/ports/ports/x11/gtksourceview

 libgnomeprint-2.6.2

I have
libgnomeprint-2-2.a
libgnomeprint-2-2.la
libgnomeprint-2-2.so.1.0 

 do you have these also ?

I have what I listed.

Thanks, 
Dave



Re: Gnumeric on 3.6

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:10 pm, Jon Drews wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The gnumeric developers assert that gnumeric is 'stable'
  ie rarely crashes. Yet my experience is that gnumeric crashes
  *frequently* while attempting to create pdf files.  Does anyone
  else running gnumeric on 3.6 or 3.7 experience gnumeric
  crashing during the creation of  pdf files? 
 
 No - Gnumeric makes *pdf's just fine here on 3.6. I have been using
 Gnumeric for about a year on this OpenBSD laptop. Both the Gnumeric
 that ws in 3.5 and this one (1.2.13) work pretty good. There are some
 MS *.xls that I have trouble opening but those are pretty infrequent.
  Dave, maybe something got corrupted on your OpenBSD ports ? I'd need
 more info to be of help.


Thanks for the offer John. What info can I provide you with?

Dave



Re: OpenBSD favorable HW

2005-06-14 Thread Kevin
On 6/13/05, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/13/05, Johan P. Lindstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   - dc, em and sk seems to be the way to go, but what to for quad port
   cards? where to find one, brand names, model numbers, revisions
 
  I have a number of machines deployed using the Intel PRO/1000 MT
  quad GigE PCI-X cards, mostly in Dell PowerEdge systems.   They
  work great, though I'm not really pushing the limits.
 
 
 Which Dell server do you have? 

Currently we have the 750, 1750, and 2650 in production. The choice of
model was determined almost entirely by what kind of budget the project
had, and whether we needed RAID-5 with a hot spare (thus the larger chassis).

Buying the PE750 with onboard SATA was a mistake we won't make again,

Some of these severs came with onboard 'em' interfaces, some with 'bge'.
And a few of the 2650s included an Adaptec RAID, the 1750s are all 'ami'.

Based on positive reviews here, we will probably purchase a pair of
PE1850s soon.  I wanted to go with SeraSystems instead, but purchasing
makes it really difficult to order from any vendor that isn't Dell or Sun.
(I thought about the Sunfire V20z, then I saw the price...)


 Are you doing port trunking with that
 Quad GigE cards (i mean: a single I/O channel of 4 GigE?)

I have to fight to be allocated one-off GigE ports on the main Cisco switches,
the network group would freak if I told them I wanted to start doing trunking :)

My most heavily loaded interface seldom breaks 400Mbps outside of testing,
I could get by with a less capable quad gig card, but 'em' seems to be the
best supported quad GigE card on i386, and it's easier to go with the flow
and buy Intel than explain to purchasing what SysKonnect is.

Kevin Kadow



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 08:15 pm, Alec Berryman wrote:
 Dave Feustel on 2005-06-13 17:59:14 -0500:
 
   What about OpenOffice on OpenBSD? *ducks*
  
  It's too big for me to even try to port.
 
 I've never tried it under Linux emulation, but you might want to give
 that a go.  In my experience, OpenOffice can open some spreadsheets
 Gnumeric can't.  Try the 2.x branch if you can.
 
 http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html#Interact
 
ssconvert  successfully handled the MS spreadsheet that I was
sent. I hesitate to get involved with OpenOffice because  of the
size of the package and its slowness which I remember from my
attempts to use the package some time ago. 



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:55 pm, eric wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 00:58:10 +0200, Bram Van Dam proclaimed...
 
  Because that's not a spreadsheet? Your information is about as useless 
  as his.
 
 Funny..lemme check here...
 
 From dict.org...
 
 spreadsheet
n : a screen-oriented interactive program enabling a user to lay
out financial data on the screen
 
 Now we can debate interactive, or I can go spend time letting latex do my
 formula calculations for my spreadsheets I generate hard copies of, and you
 can rightfully fuck off.

Using LaTex could work for me since my calculations are really simple
This approach is probably what I will  try next until I get my 3.7 cdroms. 



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 June 2005 05:58 pm, Jon Drews wrote:
 On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can say from experience that, running with KDE, neither Kspread nor 
  Gnumeric
  on OpenBSD 3.6 are useable (by me, at least) for hard copy of even simple
  spreadsheets.
  
  I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer
  *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard 
  copy
  I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the
  basis of my brief  experience with those two programs.
 
 Hi Dave:
 
 I  am using:
 gnumeric-1.2.13
 on OpenBSD notebook.silbsd.org 3.6 GENERIC#4 i386
 
 I use this Gnumeric spreadsheet every day. I printed out a *.gnumeric
 OK here on lpr:
 Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
 active xfce   159  (standard input)  302758 bytes
 
 So it does work and work well. Are you able to print other jobs ? 

Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files
from within gnumeric.

 Are you using CUPS or lpd ?

I use lpd. I print postscript files to aps1. This is my printcap file:


#   $OpenBSD: printcap,v 1.4 2003/03/28 21:32:30 jmc Exp $

lp|local line printer:\
:lp=/dev/lpa0:\
#:if=/etc/lpd_filters/addcr:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/text/acct:
# APS1_BEGIN:printer1
# - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1
# - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
aps1|pxlmono;r=300x300;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=/dev/lpa0:\
:if=/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/aps1:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/aps1/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/aps1/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
# APS1_END - don't delete this



Re: NFS sometime stalls

2005-06-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Federico Giannici wrote:

 I have an MX mail server that receives email messages and saves them to
 an email storage server via NFS.
 
 Both pc are OpenBSD i386, version 3.7 for the NFS client (MX server) and
 3.4 for the NFS server (the storage server).
 
 From time to time the connections from the NFS clients seem to freeze
 (at least the new ones).

Connection is a bit confusing term here, since by default NFS is a
connectionless protocol, it uses UDP. Only if you tell it to use TCP,
it uses connections. Are you using TCP or UDP?

 
 I applied the famous NFS patch that disables write gathering for v3
 (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=110676811107986w=2),
 but the problem remains (perhaps a little less frequent).
 
 I have also raised the number of nfsd processes and vfs.nfs.iothreads to 20.
 
 The server uses a fxp interface and the client an sk one. From netstat -i I
 have seen that there are no errors or collisions.
 
 Here is the nfsstat output for the client and the server after almost a day of
 uptime:
 
 Client Info:
 Rpc Counts:
   Getattr   SetattrLookup  Readlink  Read WriteCreate   Remove
13640012429651 0 13653178549 2579025819
Rename  Link   Symlink Mkdir Rmdir   Readdir  RdirPlus   Access
  5415 20016 016 0336388 0  1359316
 MknodFsstatFsinfo  PathConfCommit
 0 27008 1 0 42530
 Rpc Info:
  TimedOut   Invalid X Replies   Retries  Requests
 4 0   139 28889   2600564
 Cache Info:
 Attr HitsMisses Lkup HitsMisses BioR HitsMisses BioW Hits  Misses
   1669083136400   1239823424253 67080 13653632860   178549
 BioRLHitsMisses BioD HitsMisses DirE HitsMisses
 0 0 0 0 26996 27954
 
 
 Server Info:
   Getattr   SetattrLookup  Readlink  Read WriteCreate   Remove
 90847 0269426 0  8882137000 1690816947
Rename  Link   Symlink Mkdir Rmdir   Readdir  RdirPlus   Access
  3263 13427 0 0 0197032 0   872760
 MknodFsstatFsinfo  PathConfCommit
 0 16594 0 0 28598
 Server Ret-Failed
 65447
 Server Faults
 0
 Server Cache Stats:
Inprog  Idem  Non-idemMisses
21 14256   920   1657428
 Server Write Gathering:
  WriteOps  WriteRPC   Opsaved
136997137000 3
 
 
 What make me worry is the hight value of the Ret-Failed field.
 Is it normal?

Yes. Ret-Failed is increased when opening a nonexistent file, for example.

A little experiment on an idle nfs server:

server: nfsstat -s  a
client: cat nonexistentfile
server: nfsstat -s  b
server: diff -u a b
--- a   Tue Jun 14 09:03:05 2005
+++ b   Tue Jun 14 09:03:11 2005
@@ -1,17 +1,17 @@
 Server Info:
   Getattr   SetattrLookup  Readlink  Read WriteCreateRemove
-   160196   432 3764017 11621 19508  1092   866
+   160196   432 3764117 11621 19508  1092   866
Rename  Link   Symlink Mkdir Rmdir   Readdir  RdirPlusAccess
-  20750 42828   909 0   3214591
+  20750 42828   909 0   3214619
 MknodFsstatFsinfo  PathConfCommit
 0   362 4 0  3426
 Server Ret-Failed
-18377
+18378
 Server Faults
 0
 Server Cache Stats:
Inprog  Idem  Non-idemMisses
-   13   290 1   3450691
+   13   290 1   3450720
 Server Write Gathering:
  WriteOps  WriteRPC   Opsaved
 17979 19508  1529
   
 I have no experience of NFS, is it normal that sometime ot stalls?

No. This is not normal. But there have been quite some fixes in NFS since
3.4, so it might be worth the trouble upgrading the server.

 What else I could do to prevent this to happen?

Some relevant questions/hints:

- Is all I/O stalled? Or just I/O to certain mailboxes?
- Are there any stale lock files in the mail dir?
- Does the maillog say something about failing deliveries on the NFS
client? Or do the local delivery processes just hang?
- Try using tcpdump to check the traffic between client and server,
this might give a clue what is going on.

-Otto



Re: CCD on /

2005-06-14 Thread mdff
just thoughts...

 It makes the kernel 500K bigger. I think that's in the FAQ somewhere. :)
but really, would 500K hurt? who has an x86, that does not
survive the waste of 500K RAM (even my 486DX had 64MB)?

are there any plans to support the kernel being loaded
directly from a RAID partition in order to avoid that
annoying mini-boot-partition which cannot be raided?

br, mdff...



Thanks to i386 laptop submitters!

2005-06-14 Thread Alexander von Gernler
Hi crowd,

thanks for the enormous response to the call for notebook infos.
So far, more than 25 notebook records got in either on www@ or in my
personal mailbox only in a few days. Cool.

Because questions were raised: Yes, I will care for all of them.
Each single request will be answered. But please don't expect an answer
immediately, as I usually check each entry thoroughly. This way, only
about 3 notebooks a day will get in.

Some people also asked about extra pages for non-i386 laptops.
This will be subject to discussion later, and perhaps I will get onto
this after the i386 thing.

Thanks and all the best,
-- 
Alexander grunk von Gernler  PGP key 0xEBC27515
http://www.de.openbsd.org -- Free, functional, secure



Re: OpenBSD favorable HW

2005-06-14 Thread nate
Johan P. Lindstrvm said:

hello ..

 I used openbsd a few times a few years back only recently
got into it again ..


  The SCSI RAID issues with Adaptec
 - What alternatives have you tried, good and bad and the ugly

currently have 3 openbsd systems(all 3.7 as of tomorrow),
that are running this card:

INTEL ICP-VORTEX GDT8514RZ 128MB SCSI CTRL

with 4 10k RPM 36GB disks in raid 10, sofar works ok, had
to upgrade the firmware to keep it from hanging during the
bios POST. my vendor tells me at least in their experience
the ICP cards are the most stable under openbsd.

  IRQ flooding on the NIC's
 - dc, em and sk seems to be the way to go, but what to for quad port
 cards? where to find one, brand names, model numbers, revisions

I posted a question on this topic(my reason for joining the list),
with the em driver. I get about 50% cpu usage servicing interrupts
(~480Mbps of throughput peak)

in any case these are the cards I have in my systems:
INTEL PWLA8492MT 2-PORT COPPER GIG CTRL
INTEL PWLA8494MT PRO/1000 MT Quad Port

both are PCI-X and seem to work alright.

 What I am looking for is HW mirroring of drives with hotswap for
 webservers and quadport nic's

I got my systems from www.asaservers.com (I just mail them for what
I want, rather than use the website). pretty good service and
prices, have ordered about 300 systems from them in the past few
months. mostly running redhat enterprise.  I don't have time to
get into hardware these days so I like being able to tell them
what I plan to use a system for and have them give  a reccomendation
then I can buy it and they can burn it in for me and send it. much
more flexible than HP which I used to buy from. any small shop
with openbsd experience should do fine though.

if you want a copy of the full specs of my openbsd systems mail
me off list and I'll try to get it for you(price is 6 months out
of date)

hope this helps

nate



Re: Problem booting from wd0

2005-06-14 Thread arf
Thanks for all the suggestions. It appears to be a
problem with disk block mapping even though LBA mode
is used. In light of the suggestions, this is what I
did today:

Use dd form /dev/zero to wipe MBR and start of disk.
Check Bios settings - AMI Bios set to Auto shows 
LBA mode and DMA, etc.

Downloaded June 10 snapshot and checked md5 sums.

Installed without problems. The installboot output
was:
boot: /mnt/boot
proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot
device: /dev/rwd0c
/usr/mdec/biosboot: entry point 0 proto bootblock
size 512
/mnt/boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2;
part offset 63; inode block 24, offset 1704
using MBR partition 0: type 166 (0xa6) offset 63 (0x3f)

When I attempted to reboot from disk, the system hung at:
Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..OK

The dmesg from the CD boot is:
OpenBSD 3.7-current (RAMDISK_CD) #686: Fri Jun 10 15:02:20 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD
cpu0: AMD Duron(tm)  (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 64KB L2 cache) 1.62 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 637050880 (622120K)
avail mem = 574648320 (561180K)
using 4278 buffers containing 31956992 bytes (31208K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 04/09/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdb10
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7c90/192 (10 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SIS 85C503 System rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SIS 741 PCI rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SIS 648FX AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SIS 6330 VGA rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SIS 85C503 System rev 0x25
pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SIS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 741: DMA, channel 0 
wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00DKA0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SAMSUNG, CD-ROM SH-152A, C503 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
SIS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 not configured
ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 
1.0, legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 
1.0, legacy support
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SIS 7002 USB rev 0x00: irq 10
usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: SIS EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
sis0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 SIS 900 10/100BaseTX rev 0x90: irq 10, address 
00:0b:6a:60:41:8a
rlphy0 at sis0 phy 1: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
biomask ffe5 netmask ffe5 ttymask ffe7
rd0: fixed, 3800 blocks
wd0: no disk label
root on rd0a
rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02

Thanks for any suggestions.



Openbox and x.org

2005-06-14 Thread Ray Percival
It would seem that openbox as installed from the package in 3.7 doesn't
have rc.xml or menu.xml files. Is this on purpose or is it a bug or,
very likely, am I missing something obvious? I'm going to try importing
the ones I have on my Debian box to see if that solves it. 

Also coming from Debian I've not yet played with x.org a lot. I've not
had a lot of luck with their website and was kind of hoping that
somebody might point be at a OpenBSD specific fm. 

Thanks much in advance. 
-- 
BOFH excuse #242:

Software uses US measurements, but the OS is in metric...



Re: locales charmap

2005-06-14 Thread hellsop
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:52:02PM +0200, Raphael Brunner wrote:
 Dear Users!
 
 I'm not sure about my problem. I installed samba on OpenBSD 3.7. All works 
 fine. But, I don't know where I can watch which locales charmap it is in  
 default installation. In the smb.conf I have a possibility to set the 
 system-charmap. Then, if one create on any win-machine a file with 
 special-characters like #@ etc... then I can see in the shell on OpenBSD the 
 same filename... how can I see, which charmap does run on OpenBSD? On Linux 
 it's the command locale charmap then it's e.g. ISO-8859-1.

1) don't hijack threads, please.

2) There is no locale command with the base OpenBSD install, outside of
perl. There is little to no locale support in OpenBSD as shipped. If
you need to manipulate smb-shared files on the server that have
improperly-displayed characters, use filename-completion features of
your shell to aid you in specifying filenames.

-- 
96. My door mechanisms will be designed so that blasting the control panel on 
the outside seals the door and blasting the control panel on the inside 
opens the door, not vice versa.
--Peter Anspach's list of things to do as an Evil Overlord



Re: CCD on /

2005-06-14 Thread Michael Shalayeff
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from mdff:
 just thoughts...
 
  It makes the kernel 500K bigger. I think that's in the FAQ somewhere. :)
 but really, would 500K hurt? who has an x86, that does not
 survive the waste of 500K RAM (even my 486DX had 64MB)?

it does not pay off

 are there any plans to support the kernel being loaded
 directly from a RAID partition in order to avoid that
 annoying mini-boot-partition which cannot be raided?

and what are you going to do in case the raid partition
itself gets broken? how are you going to repair if you
cannot boot the machine w/o any additional hardware attached?

cu

-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)



Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread Matthew S Elmore

http://www.openbsd.org/users.html

is a good place to start looking

James Harless wrote:

I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
the basis for their devices.  Are there any that use OpenBSD
similarly?  If so, which?  Any comments on the devices?  Links would
be appreciated.


-James




Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread shanejp
Quoting James Harless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
 the basis for their devices.  Are there any that use OpenBSD
 similarly?  If so, which?  Any comments on the devices?  Links would
 be appreciated.

http://www.ml-ip.com/html/products/esw-230firmware.html#openbsd_upgrade

Used to be from Stallion Technologies, I have not been watching them
lately, but when I was, the ePipes looked expensive to me.




This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au



utmp support for samba

2005-06-14 Thread Michael Shalayeff
re
i know lots of you folks use samba and am sure would
love to have the utmp support for it (to get all of
your critters show up in w(1) jut like w/ ftpd).

i've tried to talk to the samba developers about
admitting the change for it that i cooked from the
ftpd (of course ;) and yet they are being complete
pricks insisting on using login(3) that is wrong
or some kind of bloated API from loonix that does
not exist anywhere else anyway.

so the bug report is
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2798

and if you consider the change proposed right
please do not hesitate to tell 'em that.

10x
cu

-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)



Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Bakken, Luke
 I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows
 computer *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and
 straightforwardly the hard copy I need. Neither gnumeric nor
 kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the basis of my brief 
 experience with those two programs. 

Windows is probably your best solution. Printing problems with those
programs are not on topic for the misc@ list. If those programs were
printing to the OpenBSD print spooler and there was a problem with the
print spooler, THEN this would be on topic.



SUCCESS sis problem 3.7 Was: sis problem, 3.6 on Walmart $199 Microtel system

2005-06-14 Thread Diana Eichert
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Brad wrote:

 I posted a sis(4) diff to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of you have any sis(4)
 gear and could take this for a spin on a 3.7 or -current system
 then that would be great. No guarantees of it fixing any of
 the mentioned issues but it could use testing anyway...
 
 // Brad

Success upreving 3.7 to use the following versions of sis driver code.

if_sis.c 1.45
if_sisreg.h 1.21

3.7 shipped with the following rev

if_sis.c 1.43
if_sisreg.h 1.19

I did an incremental update to the first rev available after 3.7 but I was
still seeing input errors on the interface.

if_sis.c 1.44
if_sisreg.h 1.20

It took me quite awhile to get back to checking out the problem I was
having with a sis embedded NIC on a low end Walmart Linux computer I
installed OpenBSD on.  Turns out not only did 3.6 not work, but neither
did 3.7, so I installed a dc card and kept working.  Today I was forced to
get it working on a new system we got in that I needed to convert to
OpenBSD.  FWIW, here's the entire dmesg output of the $199 Walmart
Microtel system. :-)  It's stock except for the 1GB memory stick we add to
all the nodes. ;-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class) 1.51 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 1140367360 (1113640K)
avail mem = 1031999488 (1007812K)
using 4278 buffers containing 57122816 bytes (55784K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/28/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xfdb10
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7c90/192 (10 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SIS 85C503 System rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SIS 741 PCI rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SIS 648FX AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SIS 6330 VGA rev 0x00: aperture at 0xc000, 
size 0x40
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SIS 85C503 System rev 0x25
pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SIS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 741: DMA, channel 0 
wired to compatibility, channel
 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00JHA0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, CD-ROM GCR-8523B, 1.03 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SIS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: irq 10, SiS7012 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x434d4983 (C-Media Electronics CMI9761A+)
audio0 at auich0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 
1.0, legacy support
ohci0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 
1.0, legacy support
ohci1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SIS 7002 USB rev 0x00: irq 11
ehci0: EHCI version 1.0
ehci0: companion controllers, 3 ports each: ohci0 ohci1
usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: SIS EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: single transaction translator
uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
sis0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 SIS 900 10/100BaseTX rev 0x90: irq 10, address 
00:0b:6a:d5:29:93
rlphy0 at sis0 phy 1: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83697HF
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
biomask ef65 netmask ef65 ttymask ffe7
pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
arp: attempt to overwrite entry for 0.0.0.0 on lo0 by 00:d0:90:f0:eb:ff on sis0

Can you say cheap cluster nodes, for $16 more you get a 3 year REPLACEMENT
warranty.



OT Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Diana Eichert
Man, we're wandering way OT with these posts.

I use OpenBSD on servers all day long, but I type this from an ssh session
initiated from my Windows system located on my desktop.  If you want a
system that's relatively easy to use for a desktop system pickup a Walmart
$199 box, it has the cleanest Linux install I've ever seen.  FWIW we blow
away the Linux install on it for OpenBSD but we left one with it's stock
Xandros install on for grins and giggles in the office.  It's the slickest
thing I've seen for the pointn' und clickn' user in the unix-like world.

diana



Re: redundancy

2005-06-14 Thread JR Dalrymple
 sorry for the dumb question but, how can i do this with openbsd?
snip
 is there a link someone could give me for some walk through. Drives fail
 here all the time.

dumb answer:

Read FAQ: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#RAID
Read MAN: RAID(4)



Re: redundancy

2005-06-14 Thread Eddie Block
You didn't even look did you? 

The first response at: http://www.google.com/search?query=openbsd+raid
will answer your question.

Eddie

On 6/14/05, Rob Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sorry for the dumb question but, how can i do this with openbsd?
 
 in windows 2000 I am able to right click my startup disk, convert it
 to a dynamic disk, then right click mirror, and the two drives turn in
 to a raid1 array. if i remove either drive the system
 boots with an error in the event viewer.
 
 I don't have the option to use hardware raid. What can I do? bsd.rd
 doesn't have raidframe
 support, and ccd doesn't support booting right?
 
 is there a link someone could give me for some walk through. Drives
 fail here all the time.
 
 thanks :|



Re: [OT] Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?

2005-06-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:12:56AM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote:
[...]
 Since you don't mention any particular format requirements, I'll assume 
 that any spreadsheet will suffice as long as the features are there.
[...]

Sorry for beeing offtopic.

In germany we call those spreadsheet tools Tabellenkalkulation,
translated table calculation. That's awk(1).

There're some nice tools preinstalled on every OpenBSD for doing
spreadsheets:

vi(1), awk(1), [ng]roff(1), maybe latex(1) or lout(1) from ports
(the latter in CVS since a few hours).



Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread Michael Hamerski

James Harless wrote:

I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
the basis for their devices.  Are there any that use OpenBSD
similarly?  If so, which?  Any comments on the devices?  Links would
be appreciated.


-James




One I can remember is at http://www.air-lok.com/


mike



Re: Linus at NewsForge...

2005-06-14 Thread Robert Waldner
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:49:00 EDT, Bryan Allen writes:
 http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/06/09/2128249

This is pretty worthless as a piece of journalism (Newsforge: shock,  
awe), but the resemblance to the recent Theo interview at that German  
(?) Linux/OSS site IS rather amusing...

URL?

cheers,
rw
-- 
-- Service packs are for people who are mentally not equipped
-- to keep track of patches and wouldn't know how to apply one
-- anyway.



Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread Johan P . Lindström
Just to add a comment, there is the greenbow VPN client (
http://www.thegreenbow.com) for the MS universe of products (quite some
appliance boxes as well) based on OBSD 3.4 if' I'm not mistaken, and they
bang their drum pretty hard about it, they make good cheese, whine and
rational cars (got a headlight from one I busted (burnout 3 anyone?) from
AVIS on top of my rack =D ) but I don't know about SW, have no other reason
to doubt them though. =D ok, ok, ok frog legs then, but with garlic and
parsley is sure beats chicken any day of the week.
 Then there is always the Soekris boards that will run OBSD from one of the
veterans (kudos), I'm still tough on the sauce tonite if you did not notice
so far.
 Somebody stop me, get me away from this email right now!!! I'm about to
create a mess I can't handle...
 // Johan

 On 6/14/05, Paul Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just speculating out loud, I would suspect that some vendors use OBSD
 but don't admit it. From a marketing and pricing perspective, they can
 probably charge more if they can get clients to believe that they've
 developed their own customized proprietary hardened OS.

 Paul

 James Harless wrote:
  I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
  the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD
  similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would
  be appreciated.
 
 
  -James



Re: Problem booting from wd0

2005-06-14 Thread Nick Holland
arf wrote:
 Thanks for all the suggestions. It appears to be a
 problem with disk block mapping even though LBA mode
 is used. 

huh?  What is the evidence?

 In light of the suggestions, this is what I
 did today:
 
 Use dd form /dev/zero to wipe MBR and start of disk.
 Check Bios settings - AMI Bios set to Auto shows 
 LBA mode and DMA, etc.
 
 Downloaded June 10 snapshot and checked md5 sums.
 
 Installed without problems. The installboot output
 was:
 boot: /mnt/boot
 proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot
 device: /dev/rwd0c
 /usr/mdec/biosboot: entry point 0 proto bootblock
 size 512
 /mnt/boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2;
 part offset 63; inode block 24, offset 1704
 using MBR partition 0: type 166 (0xa6) offset 63 (0x3f)
 
 When I attempted to reboot from disk, the system hung at:
 Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..OK

that's worse.
It didn't even manage to load the MBR boot loader.
Previously, you got the MBR, the partition boot record (PBR), and /boot
loaded, it died loading the kernel.

That's consistant with having zeroed the MBR (though since you didn't
say HOW you did it, I'm not going to say anything is final there), but
didn't properly restore it (and since you didn't indicate how you did
that, I think that's a very safe bet).

Let's step back a bit here.
If you boot from the CDROM (or floppy), you get to a cdrom or boot
prompt.  What happens if you, at that prompt, tell it
   boot hd0a:/bsd

If it boots properly there, that means your boot code is hosed.  Well,
actually, I'm convinced your boot code is hosed, it would be nice to see
something actually working, though, right?

If using the boot floppy or CD that way DOESN'T work, you have multiple
problems.

Nick.



Re: file and mp3s?

2005-06-14 Thread Peter Valchev
 I noticed that file can identify OGG-Files but if I try to use file
 for e.g. an MP3 it reports just data even it reports a lot informations
 for OGGs.
 
 Is there any reason (exclude things like nobody provided a patch...) why
 file can't identify MP3s?
 I thought mp3-headers are unique (enought) so I wonder why file can't
 detect mp3s. :-/

it detects and reports it just fine for proper mp3s (with ID3 headers),
the mp3s you tried it with lack that.

eg:
$ file ~/foo.mp3
/home/pvalchev/foo.mp3: MP3, 128 kBits, 44.1 kHz, Stereo



Re: SCSI Autoloaders - Does tar/dump change the tape if needed?

2005-06-14 Thread Stephen Marley
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:55:19AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I know that I could change tapes by hand using a SCSI-Autoloader but will
 tar/dump do it if they notice the current tape is full?
 It's maybe a lame question but I found no answer in all the manuals and I
 think about a Autoloader (and old ofcourse) as backupsolution for my data.

In my experience, tar and dump don't. However, a long time ago I wrote
some backup scripts, based around dump, that used 'mt rewoffl' to
unmount the current tape and mount the next on a simple dat autoloader.
There also exists the chio command for controlling medium changers.

Perhaps you can build a useful script that avoids hitting end-of-tape,
and inserts this mt/chio command at the right time. Maybe hacking the
dump source is another option. 

I'd guess other backup software, such as amanda from ports, can handle
autoloaders/changers, but I have no experience of amanda myself.

-- 
stephen



Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread Siju George
On 6/14/05, James Harless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
 the basis for their devices.  Are there any that use OpenBSD
 similarly?  If so, which? 

AirLok

U.S military, I guess used this in Iraq

Any comments on the devices? 


according to a military customer who deployed a unit in the Green Zone
in Iraq, the AIRlok is the perfect machine for any network ... the
security features are superior, the management is easy, and the
customer support is wonderful.

 Links would
 be appreciated.
 

http://www.air-lok.com/

http://www.air-lok.com/wisp/



kind regards

Siju



Re: next-server option in dhcpd.conf tftp

2005-06-14 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:38:07PM -0400, Chris Vanhoof wrote:
 First off Im running 3.6 on an alpha.  This machine serves as a dhcp 
 server for my home network.  I recently purchased a Xyplex Terminal 
 server, and I need to boot it from a tftp server.
 
 All is well if I tell the terminal server to grab the image from the 
 dhcp server, but I would like to run tftp on another machine.  I have 
 read this is posible, using the next-server option, but the terminal 
 server times out.
 
 I have tried things like this:
 
 host termserv.ouwish.dmz {
 hardware ethernet 08:00:87:01:83:f1;
 fixed-address 10.10.1.16;
   next-server 10.10.1.17;
 option root-path /tftpboot;
 filename mx1500.sys;
 }

Add this too, you never know. Old BOOTP should use this, but recent
dhcp client could:

option tftp-server-name 192.168.12.1; 

Not that I have a Xyplex Terminal server.

 
 tftp does work (tested) on 10.10.1.17.  Any ideas, or am I just doing 
 something completely wrong?
 

-- 
Hugo Villeneuve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://EINTR.net/ 



Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?

2005-06-14 Thread Siju George
On 6/14/05, Matthew S Elmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.openbsd.org/users.html
 
 is a good place to start looking
 
 James Harless wrote:
  I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as
  the basis for their devices.  Are there any that use OpenBSD
  similarly?  If so, which?  Any comments on the devices?  Links would
  be appreciated.
 
 
  -James
 
 

http://www.openbsd.org/products.html

mentions some but please double check what is said there by following
the links provided there of

http://www.redhat.com/software/stronghold/

says

Stronghold Enterprise for Unix continues to be supported for existing
customers. Support will terminate on 31st December 2005.

There are a few other commercial vendors who migrated from OpenBSD to
Linux due to various reasons so if you get any names please check
their websites for the latest info

kind regards

Siju



Re: Linus at NewsForge...

2005-06-14 Thread Gezim Hoxha
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 01:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wow, Linux really is becoming more like Microsoft.
 
 Maybe that's why the founde rof Gentoo now works for MS :-) ;)

That makes no sense. If you'd said Maybe that's why the founde rof
Microsoft now works for Gentoo :-) ;) then this would have been a
good explanation. 

-Gezim



Re: I am beginning to think

2005-06-14 Thread Christer Solstrand Johannessen

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Dave Feustel wrote:

[mac mini+ms office:mac]


I have been thinking about getting a Mac.
I hadn't considered a mini, but that is an
intriguing idea. What does the above hardware
and software cost in the US?


1.25GHz/40GB/256MB ram Mac mini from $499.
1.42GHz/80GB/256MB ram Mac mini from $599.
MS Office:mac 2004 $399.95.

All prices from Apple's website and current as of right now.

Cheers,
-Christer



Re: more file descriptors for user www

2005-06-14 Thread eric
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 13:05:54 +0200, Alexander Hall proclaimed...

 Create a new class (e.g. www or httpd) and use sudo (as root) to run 
 httpd using that new class.

What the hell are you talking about? Just change the www users' class and
modify /etc/login.conf. It will then propagate.



Re: Linus at NewsForge...

2005-06-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Gezim Hoxha wrote:

 On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 01:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Wow, Linux really is becoming more like Microsoft.
  
  Maybe that's why the founde rof Gentoo now works for MS :-) ;)
 
 That makes no sense. If you'd said Maybe that's why the founde rof
 Microsoft now works for Gentoo :-) ;) then this would have been a
 good explanation. 

but that's not what happened.  for real.

-- 
And that's why we were unable to move the process forward.



Re: ADSL connection (PPPoE)

2005-06-14 Thread Clint Pachl
 Is there any issues I should consider before buying this modem? Will
 it work with Open3.7? I know it works fine with Linux.

I highly doubt there will be any issues. The communication between the
switch (built-in to the modem) and your OpenBSD box uses the TCP/IP
protocol. The OS is not even an issue. Also, you will communicate with
the modem via the http protocol for config stuff. BTW, I do not own
and have never used this modem, so YMMV.

 Is there any issues I should consider before taking the connection
 from the service prodiver? Any other technical details?

None serious enough to mention.

 I really want my ADSL connection to work with Open3.7.

It will.

Does this guy even need a modem? 

(I know I should start a new thread with this, but here we go) Can't
an OpenBSD box handle a PPPoE/PPPoA connection directly? I recently
setup a VPN between two networks with DSL connections where the modems
make a PPPoA connection. An OpenBSD box resides behind each modem.
Basically, the modem gets an IP address dynamically, does the
authentication, and gets the block of static IPs, one of which the
OBSD box gets. So I was thinking, couldn't the OBSD box theoretically
make the connection and eliminate the modem all together?

Regards,
Clint Pachl



Re: ADSL connection (PPPoE)

2005-06-14 Thread Graeme Lee

Clint Pachl wrote:


Is there any issues I should consider before buying this modem? Will
it work with Open3.7? I know it works fine with Linux.
   



I highly doubt there will be any issues. The communication between the
switch (built-in to the modem) and your OpenBSD box uses the TCP/IP
protocol. The OS is not even an issue. Also, you will communicate with
the modem via the http protocol for config stuff. BTW, I do not own
and have never used this modem, so YMMV.

 


Does the modem support bridging?


Is there any issues I should consider before taking the connection
from the service prodiver? Any other technical details?
   



None serious enough to mention.

 


I really want my ADSL connection to work with Open3.7.
   



It will.

Does this guy even need a modem? 
 


Don't you need a modem if you want to do ordinary 56k dialup?


(I know I should start a new thread with this, but here we go) Can't
an OpenBSD box handle a PPPoE/PPPoA connection directly? I recently
setup a VPN between two networks with DSL connections where the modems
make a PPPoA connection. An OpenBSD box resides behind each modem.
Basically, the modem gets an IP address dynamically, does the
authentication, and gets the block of static IPs, one of which the
OBSD box gets. So I was thinking, couldn't the OBSD box theoretically
make the connection and eliminate the modem all together?

 

If your adsl modem supports bridging, you may most likely be able to run 
pppoe directly from OpenBSD.  Telstra Internet Direct works really 
well.  Here's the ppp.conf entry


pppoe:
set device !/usr/sbin/pppoe -i your external interface
set mtu max 1492
set mru max 1492
set speed sync
disable acfcomp protocomp
deny acfcomp
set authname your username
set authkey your secret
set ifaddr your permanent IP your default gateway
add! default HISADDR

The modem's a d-link 504g.  Nothing exiting.  But it bridges and I do 
everything else on my obsd box




Regards,
Clint Pachl