gpio + ath problems iwth ath AT5212A-00
I have tried OpenBSD3.7 -stable with generic kernel with an atheros AT5212A-00 on a wrap board and the dmesg showed gpio not configured. The system crashed every few hours. But performance in between was quite good. Then I installed -current and dmesg showed gpio to be supported. However, crashes occured immediately after ath0 came up The message was ath0 timeout...then the system froze. I had to replace the atheros card by a prism card to avoid problems and can't reproduce a dmesg at this time. I'm aware this is minor information. If this problem is known pls advise, if not I will put back the card asap to reproduce the problem and see what I can find out so I can file a decent bug report.
Linus at NewsForge...
A little Interview by Linus (just another Linux vs BSD..) at NewsForge: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/06/09/2128249 Kind regards, Sebastian
Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files from within gnumeric. OK, these are the dependencies I have for Gnumerics printing: libgnomeprintui-2.6.2 gtksourceview-1.0.1 libgnomeprint-2.6.2 do you have these also ? -- Kind regards, Jonathan
Re: OpenBSD favorable HW
I have run OpenBSD 3.6 and upgrade to OpenBSD 3.7 on Dell PowerEdge 750. Here was the hardware. em0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000CT (82547EI) em1 at pci3 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541EI) pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 6300ESB SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST380013AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 But it's on rack mounted server. I think the tower server which use the same hardware should not have any problem On 6/14/05, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/05, Johan P. Lindstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - dc, em and sk seems to be the way to go, but what to for quad port cards? where to find one, brand names, model numbers, revisions I have a number of machines deployed using the Intel PRO/1000 MT quad GigE PCI-X cards, mostly in Dell PowerEdge systems. They work great, though I'm not really pushing the limits. Which Dell server do you have? Are you doing port trunking with that Quad GigE cards (i mean: a single I/O channel of 4 GigE?) Thanks for your feedback. Any one tried the low end on DELL servers (tower models)? TMK, no Dell server offers a supported SATA controller, this includes the low-end rackmount systems with an embedded SATA controller. Go SCSI. Many rackmount Dell products (e.g. PE1850) are available with hardware RAID on an ami MegaRAID controller, these work great with OpenBSD, as noted by Stuart Henderson. or is it a better move to build your own by ordering parts, if so, what is popular here? If you need a support contract on the hardware, rack-dense servers, or are looking for a highly available server with dual-power and a hot swap drive enclosure, then building your own may not be an option. What I am looking for is HW mirroring of drives with hotswap for webservers and quadport nic's The ability to hot-swap drives requires that everything in the chain must support hot swap -- the controller, the drive, and the SCSI enclosure or backplane. This is where buying an integrated server pays off -- if you blow something up in the process of hot-swapping drives, you just have one vendor to deal with, no finger-pointing. Kevin Kadow
Re: Laptop CD Audio
Christian Jones wrote: Hi, all. I've been putting a laptop (Dell Inspiron 1000) through the motions in order to submit its status to the OpenBSD i386 laptops page. In doing so, I've tested out a bunch of things I've never used before, and I've hit a snag with playing audio CDs (from the raw device, not mounting and/or ripping them). I thought I had this one all figured out---I can play audio just fine, but not from the CD. Everything's unmuted and maxed out in volume in mixerctl (below); I haven't changed any settings in audioctl (also below). cdio seems to read and play just fine (status below), but I get no actual sound. Even DVDs play great in ogle. What kernel version? Where is your dmesg? I have a Dell Latitude D810 machine. I have exactly the same problem, I just haven't gotten around to complaining about it yet. My machine has no LINE-OUT jack, only headphones. I think the solution may require driver modifications to handle the new audio hardware in the latest support chip. I have no datasheets to even study the problem let alone try to fix it. Besides, I have no driver development experience in OBSD, so I been meaning to try interest one of the regular developers into taking a look, but haven't had the time to get a fresh snapshot to see where things are today. When chasing new hardware, it is good to try a recent snapshot before complaining. You should post a dmesg. I posted one back in March for the D810. See: http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archive/openbsd-misc/200503/msg00566.html If it will help things along, I will try to install a recent snapshot this coming weekend. Regards, Ray
OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. -James -- What would Bilano do?
Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 04:47 am, Jon Drews wrote: On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files from within gnumeric. OK, these are the dependencies I have for Gnumerics printing: libgnomeprintui-2.6.2 I have libgnomeprintui-2-2.a libgnomeprintui-2-2.la libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.1.0 gtksourceview-1.0.1 I have /usr/ports/ports/x11/gtksourceview libgnomeprint-2.6.2 I have libgnomeprint-2-2.a libgnomeprint-2-2.la libgnomeprint-2-2.so.1.0 do you have these also ? I have what I listed. Thanks, Dave
Re: Gnumeric on 3.6
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:10 pm, Jon Drews wrote: On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gnumeric developers assert that gnumeric is 'stable' ie rarely crashes. Yet my experience is that gnumeric crashes *frequently* while attempting to create pdf files. Does anyone else running gnumeric on 3.6 or 3.7 experience gnumeric crashing during the creation of pdf files? No - Gnumeric makes *pdf's just fine here on 3.6. I have been using Gnumeric for about a year on this OpenBSD laptop. Both the Gnumeric that ws in 3.5 and this one (1.2.13) work pretty good. There are some MS *.xls that I have trouble opening but those are pretty infrequent. Dave, maybe something got corrupted on your OpenBSD ports ? I'd need more info to be of help. Thanks for the offer John. What info can I provide you with? Dave
Re: OpenBSD favorable HW
On 6/13/05, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/05, Johan P. Lindstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - dc, em and sk seems to be the way to go, but what to for quad port cards? where to find one, brand names, model numbers, revisions I have a number of machines deployed using the Intel PRO/1000 MT quad GigE PCI-X cards, mostly in Dell PowerEdge systems. They work great, though I'm not really pushing the limits. Which Dell server do you have? Currently we have the 750, 1750, and 2650 in production. The choice of model was determined almost entirely by what kind of budget the project had, and whether we needed RAID-5 with a hot spare (thus the larger chassis). Buying the PE750 with onboard SATA was a mistake we won't make again, Some of these severs came with onboard 'em' interfaces, some with 'bge'. And a few of the 2650s included an Adaptec RAID, the 1750s are all 'ami'. Based on positive reviews here, we will probably purchase a pair of PE1850s soon. I wanted to go with SeraSystems instead, but purchasing makes it really difficult to order from any vendor that isn't Dell or Sun. (I thought about the Sunfire V20z, then I saw the price...) Are you doing port trunking with that Quad GigE cards (i mean: a single I/O channel of 4 GigE?) I have to fight to be allocated one-off GigE ports on the main Cisco switches, the network group would freak if I told them I wanted to start doing trunking :) My most heavily loaded interface seldom breaks 400Mbps outside of testing, I could get by with a less capable quad gig card, but 'em' seems to be the best supported quad GigE card on i386, and it's easier to go with the flow and buy Intel than explain to purchasing what SysKonnect is. Kevin Kadow
Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
On Monday 13 June 2005 08:15 pm, Alec Berryman wrote: Dave Feustel on 2005-06-13 17:59:14 -0500: What about OpenOffice on OpenBSD? *ducks* It's too big for me to even try to port. I've never tried it under Linux emulation, but you might want to give that a go. In my experience, OpenOffice can open some spreadsheets Gnumeric can't. Try the 2.x branch if you can. http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html#Interact ssconvert successfully handled the MS spreadsheet that I was sent. I hesitate to get involved with OpenOffice because of the size of the package and its slowness which I remember from my attempts to use the package some time ago.
Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:55 pm, eric wrote: On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 00:58:10 +0200, Bram Van Dam proclaimed... Because that's not a spreadsheet? Your information is about as useless as his. Funny..lemme check here... From dict.org... spreadsheet n : a screen-oriented interactive program enabling a user to lay out financial data on the screen Now we can debate interactive, or I can go spend time letting latex do my formula calculations for my spreadsheets I generate hard copies of, and you can rightfully fuck off. Using LaTex could work for me since my calculations are really simple This approach is probably what I will try next until I get my 3.7 cdroms.
Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
On Monday 13 June 2005 05:58 pm, Jon Drews wrote: On 6/13/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can say from experience that, running with KDE, neither Kspread nor Gnumeric on OpenBSD 3.6 are useable (by me, at least) for hard copy of even simple spreadsheets. I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard copy I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the basis of my brief experience with those two programs. Hi Dave: I am using: gnumeric-1.2.13 on OpenBSD notebook.silbsd.org 3.6 GENERIC#4 i386 I use this Gnumeric spreadsheet every day. I printed out a *.gnumeric OK here on lpr: Rank Owner Job Files Total Size active xfce 159 (standard input) 302758 bytes So it does work and work well. Are you able to print other jobs ? Yes. Note that my problem is not printing pdf files, it is creating pdf files from within gnumeric. Are you using CUPS or lpd ? I use lpd. I print postscript files to aps1. This is my printcap file: # $OpenBSD: printcap,v 1.4 2003/03/28 21:32:30 jmc Exp $ lp|local line printer:\ :lp=/dev/lpa0:\ #:if=/etc/lpd_filters/addcr:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/text/acct: # APS1_BEGIN:printer1 # - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1 # - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL aps1|pxlmono;r=300x300;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpa0:\ :if=/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/aps1:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/aps1/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/aps1/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # APS1_END - don't delete this
Re: NFS sometime stalls
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Federico Giannici wrote: I have an MX mail server that receives email messages and saves them to an email storage server via NFS. Both pc are OpenBSD i386, version 3.7 for the NFS client (MX server) and 3.4 for the NFS server (the storage server). From time to time the connections from the NFS clients seem to freeze (at least the new ones). Connection is a bit confusing term here, since by default NFS is a connectionless protocol, it uses UDP. Only if you tell it to use TCP, it uses connections. Are you using TCP or UDP? I applied the famous NFS patch that disables write gathering for v3 (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=110676811107986w=2), but the problem remains (perhaps a little less frequent). I have also raised the number of nfsd processes and vfs.nfs.iothreads to 20. The server uses a fxp interface and the client an sk one. From netstat -i I have seen that there are no errors or collisions. Here is the nfsstat output for the client and the server after almost a day of uptime: Client Info: Rpc Counts: Getattr SetattrLookup Readlink Read WriteCreate Remove 13640012429651 0 13653178549 2579025819 Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir RdirPlus Access 5415 20016 016 0336388 0 1359316 MknodFsstatFsinfo PathConfCommit 0 27008 1 0 42530 Rpc Info: TimedOut Invalid X Replies Retries Requests 4 0 139 28889 2600564 Cache Info: Attr HitsMisses Lkup HitsMisses BioR HitsMisses BioW Hits Misses 1669083136400 1239823424253 67080 13653632860 178549 BioRLHitsMisses BioD HitsMisses DirE HitsMisses 0 0 0 0 26996 27954 Server Info: Getattr SetattrLookup Readlink Read WriteCreate Remove 90847 0269426 0 8882137000 1690816947 Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir RdirPlus Access 3263 13427 0 0 0197032 0 872760 MknodFsstatFsinfo PathConfCommit 0 16594 0 0 28598 Server Ret-Failed 65447 Server Faults 0 Server Cache Stats: Inprog Idem Non-idemMisses 21 14256 920 1657428 Server Write Gathering: WriteOps WriteRPC Opsaved 136997137000 3 What make me worry is the hight value of the Ret-Failed field. Is it normal? Yes. Ret-Failed is increased when opening a nonexistent file, for example. A little experiment on an idle nfs server: server: nfsstat -s a client: cat nonexistentfile server: nfsstat -s b server: diff -u a b --- a Tue Jun 14 09:03:05 2005 +++ b Tue Jun 14 09:03:11 2005 @@ -1,17 +1,17 @@ Server Info: Getattr SetattrLookup Readlink Read WriteCreateRemove - 160196 432 3764017 11621 19508 1092 866 + 160196 432 3764117 11621 19508 1092 866 Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir RdirPlusAccess - 20750 42828 909 0 3214591 + 20750 42828 909 0 3214619 MknodFsstatFsinfo PathConfCommit 0 362 4 0 3426 Server Ret-Failed -18377 +18378 Server Faults 0 Server Cache Stats: Inprog Idem Non-idemMisses - 13 290 1 3450691 + 13 290 1 3450720 Server Write Gathering: WriteOps WriteRPC Opsaved 17979 19508 1529 I have no experience of NFS, is it normal that sometime ot stalls? No. This is not normal. But there have been quite some fixes in NFS since 3.4, so it might be worth the trouble upgrading the server. What else I could do to prevent this to happen? Some relevant questions/hints: - Is all I/O stalled? Or just I/O to certain mailboxes? - Are there any stale lock files in the mail dir? - Does the maillog say something about failing deliveries on the NFS client? Or do the local delivery processes just hang? - Try using tcpdump to check the traffic between client and server, this might give a clue what is going on. -Otto
Re: CCD on /
just thoughts... It makes the kernel 500K bigger. I think that's in the FAQ somewhere. :) but really, would 500K hurt? who has an x86, that does not survive the waste of 500K RAM (even my 486DX had 64MB)? are there any plans to support the kernel being loaded directly from a RAID partition in order to avoid that annoying mini-boot-partition which cannot be raided? br, mdff...
Thanks to i386 laptop submitters!
Hi crowd, thanks for the enormous response to the call for notebook infos. So far, more than 25 notebook records got in either on www@ or in my personal mailbox only in a few days. Cool. Because questions were raised: Yes, I will care for all of them. Each single request will be answered. But please don't expect an answer immediately, as I usually check each entry thoroughly. This way, only about 3 notebooks a day will get in. Some people also asked about extra pages for non-i386 laptops. This will be subject to discussion later, and perhaps I will get onto this after the i386 thing. Thanks and all the best, -- Alexander grunk von Gernler PGP key 0xEBC27515 http://www.de.openbsd.org -- Free, functional, secure
Re: OpenBSD favorable HW
Johan P. Lindstrvm said: hello .. I used openbsd a few times a few years back only recently got into it again .. The SCSI RAID issues with Adaptec - What alternatives have you tried, good and bad and the ugly currently have 3 openbsd systems(all 3.7 as of tomorrow), that are running this card: INTEL ICP-VORTEX GDT8514RZ 128MB SCSI CTRL with 4 10k RPM 36GB disks in raid 10, sofar works ok, had to upgrade the firmware to keep it from hanging during the bios POST. my vendor tells me at least in their experience the ICP cards are the most stable under openbsd. IRQ flooding on the NIC's - dc, em and sk seems to be the way to go, but what to for quad port cards? where to find one, brand names, model numbers, revisions I posted a question on this topic(my reason for joining the list), with the em driver. I get about 50% cpu usage servicing interrupts (~480Mbps of throughput peak) in any case these are the cards I have in my systems: INTEL PWLA8492MT 2-PORT COPPER GIG CTRL INTEL PWLA8494MT PRO/1000 MT Quad Port both are PCI-X and seem to work alright. What I am looking for is HW mirroring of drives with hotswap for webservers and quadport nic's I got my systems from www.asaservers.com (I just mail them for what I want, rather than use the website). pretty good service and prices, have ordered about 300 systems from them in the past few months. mostly running redhat enterprise. I don't have time to get into hardware these days so I like being able to tell them what I plan to use a system for and have them give a reccomendation then I can buy it and they can burn it in for me and send it. much more flexible than HP which I used to buy from. any small shop with openbsd experience should do fine though. if you want a copy of the full specs of my openbsd systems mail me off list and I'll try to get it for you(price is 6 months out of date) hope this helps nate
Re: Problem booting from wd0
Thanks for all the suggestions. It appears to be a problem with disk block mapping even though LBA mode is used. In light of the suggestions, this is what I did today: Use dd form /dev/zero to wipe MBR and start of disk. Check Bios settings - AMI Bios set to Auto shows LBA mode and DMA, etc. Downloaded June 10 snapshot and checked md5 sums. Installed without problems. The installboot output was: boot: /mnt/boot proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot device: /dev/rwd0c /usr/mdec/biosboot: entry point 0 proto bootblock size 512 /mnt/boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2; part offset 63; inode block 24, offset 1704 using MBR partition 0: type 166 (0xa6) offset 63 (0x3f) When I attempted to reboot from disk, the system hung at: Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..OK The dmesg from the CD boot is: OpenBSD 3.7-current (RAMDISK_CD) #686: Fri Jun 10 15:02:20 MDT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: AMD Duron(tm) (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 64KB L2 cache) 1.62 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 637050880 (622120K) avail mem = 574648320 (561180K) using 4278 buffers containing 31956992 bytes (31208K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 04/09/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdb10 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7c90/192 (10 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SIS 85C503 System rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SIS 741 PCI rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SIS 648FX AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SIS 6330 VGA rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SIS 85C503 System rev 0x25 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SIS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 741: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00DKA0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SAMSUNG, CD-ROM SH-152A, C503 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 SIS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 1.0, legacy support usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SIS 7002 USB rev 0x00: irq 10 usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: SIS EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered sis0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 SIS 900 10/100BaseTX rev 0x90: irq 10, address 00:0b:6a:60:41:8a rlphy0 at sis0 phy 1: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask ffe5 netmask ffe5 ttymask ffe7 rd0: fixed, 3800 blocks wd0: no disk label root on rd0a rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02 Thanks for any suggestions.
Openbox and x.org
It would seem that openbox as installed from the package in 3.7 doesn't have rc.xml or menu.xml files. Is this on purpose or is it a bug or, very likely, am I missing something obvious? I'm going to try importing the ones I have on my Debian box to see if that solves it. Also coming from Debian I've not yet played with x.org a lot. I've not had a lot of luck with their website and was kind of hoping that somebody might point be at a OpenBSD specific fm. Thanks much in advance. -- BOFH excuse #242: Software uses US measurements, but the OS is in metric...
Re: locales charmap
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:52:02PM +0200, Raphael Brunner wrote: Dear Users! I'm not sure about my problem. I installed samba on OpenBSD 3.7. All works fine. But, I don't know where I can watch which locales charmap it is in default installation. In the smb.conf I have a possibility to set the system-charmap. Then, if one create on any win-machine a file with special-characters like #@ etc... then I can see in the shell on OpenBSD the same filename... how can I see, which charmap does run on OpenBSD? On Linux it's the command locale charmap then it's e.g. ISO-8859-1. 1) don't hijack threads, please. 2) There is no locale command with the base OpenBSD install, outside of perl. There is little to no locale support in OpenBSD as shipped. If you need to manipulate smb-shared files on the server that have improperly-displayed characters, use filename-completion features of your shell to aid you in specifying filenames. -- 96. My door mechanisms will be designed so that blasting the control panel on the outside seals the door and blasting the control panel on the inside opens the door, not vice versa. --Peter Anspach's list of things to do as an Evil Overlord
Re: CCD on /
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from mdff: just thoughts... It makes the kernel 500K bigger. I think that's in the FAQ somewhere. :) but really, would 500K hurt? who has an x86, that does not survive the waste of 500K RAM (even my 486DX had 64MB)? it does not pay off are there any plans to support the kernel being loaded directly from a RAID partition in order to avoid that annoying mini-boot-partition which cannot be raided? and what are you going to do in case the raid partition itself gets broken? how are you going to repair if you cannot boot the machine w/o any additional hardware attached? cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
http://www.openbsd.org/users.html is a good place to start looking James Harless wrote: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. -James
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
Quoting James Harless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. http://www.ml-ip.com/html/products/esw-230firmware.html#openbsd_upgrade Used to be from Stallion Technologies, I have not been watching them lately, but when I was, the ePipes looked expensive to me. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au
utmp support for samba
re i know lots of you folks use samba and am sure would love to have the utmp support for it (to get all of your critters show up in w(1) jut like w/ ftpd). i've tried to talk to the samba developers about admitting the change for it that i cooked from the ftpd (of course ;) and yet they are being complete pricks insisting on using login(3) that is wrong or some kind of bloated API from loonix that does not exist anywhere else anyway. so the bug report is https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2798 and if you consider the change proposed right please do not hesitate to tell 'em that. 10x cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
I am beginning to think *very* seriously about using a Windows computer *just* to run MS Excel so I can get reliably and straightforwardly the hard copy I need. Neither gnumeric nor kspread running on OpenBSD 3.6 qualify on the basis of my brief experience with those two programs. Windows is probably your best solution. Printing problems with those programs are not on topic for the misc@ list. If those programs were printing to the OpenBSD print spooler and there was a problem with the print spooler, THEN this would be on topic.
SUCCESS sis problem 3.7 Was: sis problem, 3.6 on Walmart $199 Microtel system
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Brad wrote: I posted a sis(4) diff to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of you have any sis(4) gear and could take this for a spin on a 3.7 or -current system then that would be great. No guarantees of it fixing any of the mentioned issues but it could use testing anyway... // Brad Success upreving 3.7 to use the following versions of sis driver code. if_sis.c 1.45 if_sisreg.h 1.21 3.7 shipped with the following rev if_sis.c 1.43 if_sisreg.h 1.19 I did an incremental update to the first rev available after 3.7 but I was still seeing input errors on the interface. if_sis.c 1.44 if_sisreg.h 1.20 It took me quite awhile to get back to checking out the problem I was having with a sis embedded NIC on a low end Walmart Linux computer I installed OpenBSD on. Turns out not only did 3.6 not work, but neither did 3.7, so I installed a dc card and kept working. Today I was forced to get it working on a new system we got in that I needed to convert to OpenBSD. FWIW, here's the entire dmesg output of the $199 Walmart Microtel system. :-) It's stock except for the 1GB memory stick we add to all the nodes. ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class) 1.51 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 1140367360 (1113640K) avail mem = 1031999488 (1007812K) using 4278 buffers containing 57122816 bytes (55784K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/28/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdb10 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7c90/192 (10 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SIS 85C503 System rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SIS 741 PCI rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SIS 648FX AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SIS 6330 VGA rev 0x00: aperture at 0xc000, size 0x40 wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SIS 85C503 System rev 0x25 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SIS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 741: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00JHA0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, CD-ROM GCR-8523B, 1.03 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SIS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: irq 10, SiS7012 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x434d4983 (C-Media Electronics CMI9761A+) audio0 at auich0 ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 1.0, legacy support ohci0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: SIS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SIS 7002 USB rev 0x00: irq 11 ehci0: EHCI version 1.0 ehci0: companion controllers, 3 ports each: ohci0 ohci1 usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: SIS EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: single transaction translator uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered sis0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 SIS 900 10/100BaseTX rev 0x90: irq 10, address 00:0b:6a:d5:29:93 rlphy0 at sis0 phy 1: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker sysbeep0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83697HF npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask ef65 netmask ef65 ttymask ffe7 pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80 root on wd0a rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302 arp: attempt to overwrite entry for 0.0.0.0 on lo0 by 00:d0:90:f0:eb:ff on sis0 Can you say cheap cluster nodes, for $16 more you get a 3 year REPLACEMENT warranty.
OT Re: Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
Man, we're wandering way OT with these posts. I use OpenBSD on servers all day long, but I type this from an ssh session initiated from my Windows system located on my desktop. If you want a system that's relatively easy to use for a desktop system pickup a Walmart $199 box, it has the cleanest Linux install I've ever seen. FWIW we blow away the Linux install on it for OpenBSD but we left one with it's stock Xandros install on for grins and giggles in the office. It's the slickest thing I've seen for the pointn' und clickn' user in the unix-like world. diana
Re: redundancy
sorry for the dumb question but, how can i do this with openbsd? snip is there a link someone could give me for some walk through. Drives fail here all the time. dumb answer: Read FAQ: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#RAID Read MAN: RAID(4)
Re: redundancy
You didn't even look did you? The first response at: http://www.google.com/search?query=openbsd+raid will answer your question. Eddie On 6/14/05, Rob Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry for the dumb question but, how can i do this with openbsd? in windows 2000 I am able to right click my startup disk, convert it to a dynamic disk, then right click mirror, and the two drives turn in to a raid1 array. if i remove either drive the system boots with an error in the event viewer. I don't have the option to use hardware raid. What can I do? bsd.rd doesn't have raidframe support, and ccd doesn't support booting right? is there a link someone could give me for some walk through. Drives fail here all the time. thanks :|
Re: [OT] Does OpenBSD Have a Spreadsheet That Prints Properly?
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:12:56AM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: [...] Since you don't mention any particular format requirements, I'll assume that any spreadsheet will suffice as long as the features are there. [...] Sorry for beeing offtopic. In germany we call those spreadsheet tools Tabellenkalkulation, translated table calculation. That's awk(1). There're some nice tools preinstalled on every OpenBSD for doing spreadsheets: vi(1), awk(1), [ng]roff(1), maybe latex(1) or lout(1) from ports (the latter in CVS since a few hours).
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
James Harless wrote: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. -James One I can remember is at http://www.air-lok.com/ mike
Re: Linus at NewsForge...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:49:00 EDT, Bryan Allen writes: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/06/09/2128249 This is pretty worthless as a piece of journalism (Newsforge: shock, awe), but the resemblance to the recent Theo interview at that German (?) Linux/OSS site IS rather amusing... URL? cheers, rw -- -- Service packs are for people who are mentally not equipped -- to keep track of patches and wouldn't know how to apply one -- anyway.
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
Just to add a comment, there is the greenbow VPN client ( http://www.thegreenbow.com) for the MS universe of products (quite some appliance boxes as well) based on OBSD 3.4 if' I'm not mistaken, and they bang their drum pretty hard about it, they make good cheese, whine and rational cars (got a headlight from one I busted (burnout 3 anyone?) from AVIS on top of my rack =D ) but I don't know about SW, have no other reason to doubt them though. =D ok, ok, ok frog legs then, but with garlic and parsley is sure beats chicken any day of the week. Then there is always the Soekris boards that will run OBSD from one of the veterans (kudos), I'm still tough on the sauce tonite if you did not notice so far. Somebody stop me, get me away from this email right now!!! I'm about to create a mess I can't handle... // Johan On 6/14/05, Paul Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just speculating out loud, I would suspect that some vendors use OBSD but don't admit it. From a marketing and pricing perspective, they can probably charge more if they can get clients to believe that they've developed their own customized proprietary hardened OS. Paul James Harless wrote: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. -James
Re: Problem booting from wd0
arf wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. It appears to be a problem with disk block mapping even though LBA mode is used. huh? What is the evidence? In light of the suggestions, this is what I did today: Use dd form /dev/zero to wipe MBR and start of disk. Check Bios settings - AMI Bios set to Auto shows LBA mode and DMA, etc. Downloaded June 10 snapshot and checked md5 sums. Installed without problems. The installboot output was: boot: /mnt/boot proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot device: /dev/rwd0c /usr/mdec/biosboot: entry point 0 proto bootblock size 512 /mnt/boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2; part offset 63; inode block 24, offset 1704 using MBR partition 0: type 166 (0xa6) offset 63 (0x3f) When I attempted to reboot from disk, the system hung at: Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..OK that's worse. It didn't even manage to load the MBR boot loader. Previously, you got the MBR, the partition boot record (PBR), and /boot loaded, it died loading the kernel. That's consistant with having zeroed the MBR (though since you didn't say HOW you did it, I'm not going to say anything is final there), but didn't properly restore it (and since you didn't indicate how you did that, I think that's a very safe bet). Let's step back a bit here. If you boot from the CDROM (or floppy), you get to a cdrom or boot prompt. What happens if you, at that prompt, tell it boot hd0a:/bsd If it boots properly there, that means your boot code is hosed. Well, actually, I'm convinced your boot code is hosed, it would be nice to see something actually working, though, right? If using the boot floppy or CD that way DOESN'T work, you have multiple problems. Nick.
Re: file and mp3s?
I noticed that file can identify OGG-Files but if I try to use file for e.g. an MP3 it reports just data even it reports a lot informations for OGGs. Is there any reason (exclude things like nobody provided a patch...) why file can't identify MP3s? I thought mp3-headers are unique (enought) so I wonder why file can't detect mp3s. :-/ it detects and reports it just fine for proper mp3s (with ID3 headers), the mp3s you tried it with lack that. eg: $ file ~/foo.mp3 /home/pvalchev/foo.mp3: MP3, 128 kBits, 44.1 kHz, Stereo
Re: SCSI Autoloaders - Does tar/dump change the tape if needed?
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:55:19AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I know that I could change tapes by hand using a SCSI-Autoloader but will tar/dump do it if they notice the current tape is full? It's maybe a lame question but I found no answer in all the manuals and I think about a Autoloader (and old ofcourse) as backupsolution for my data. In my experience, tar and dump don't. However, a long time ago I wrote some backup scripts, based around dump, that used 'mt rewoffl' to unmount the current tape and mount the next on a simple dat autoloader. There also exists the chio command for controlling medium changers. Perhaps you can build a useful script that avoids hitting end-of-tape, and inserts this mt/chio command at the right time. Maybe hacking the dump source is another option. I'd guess other backup software, such as amanda from ports, can handle autoloaders/changers, but I have no experience of amanda myself. -- stephen
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
On 6/14/05, James Harless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? AirLok U.S military, I guess used this in Iraq Any comments on the devices? according to a military customer who deployed a unit in the Green Zone in Iraq, the AIRlok is the perfect machine for any network ... the security features are superior, the management is easy, and the customer support is wonderful. Links would be appreciated. http://www.air-lok.com/ http://www.air-lok.com/wisp/ kind regards Siju
Re: next-server option in dhcpd.conf tftp
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:38:07PM -0400, Chris Vanhoof wrote: First off Im running 3.6 on an alpha. This machine serves as a dhcp server for my home network. I recently purchased a Xyplex Terminal server, and I need to boot it from a tftp server. All is well if I tell the terminal server to grab the image from the dhcp server, but I would like to run tftp on another machine. I have read this is posible, using the next-server option, but the terminal server times out. I have tried things like this: host termserv.ouwish.dmz { hardware ethernet 08:00:87:01:83:f1; fixed-address 10.10.1.16; next-server 10.10.1.17; option root-path /tftpboot; filename mx1500.sys; } Add this too, you never know. Old BOOTP should use this, but recent dhcp client could: option tftp-server-name 192.168.12.1; Not that I have a Xyplex Terminal server. tftp does work (tested) on 10.10.1.17. Any ideas, or am I just doing something completely wrong? -- Hugo Villeneuve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://EINTR.net/
Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
On 6/14/05, Matthew S Elmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/users.html is a good place to start looking James Harless wrote: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. -James http://www.openbsd.org/products.html mentions some but please double check what is said there by following the links provided there of http://www.redhat.com/software/stronghold/ says Stronghold Enterprise for Unix continues to be supported for existing customers. Support will terminate on 31st December 2005. There are a few other commercial vendors who migrated from OpenBSD to Linux due to various reasons so if you get any names please check their websites for the latest info kind regards Siju
Re: Linus at NewsForge...
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 01:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Linux really is becoming more like Microsoft. Maybe that's why the founde rof Gentoo now works for MS :-) ;) That makes no sense. If you'd said Maybe that's why the founde rof Microsoft now works for Gentoo :-) ;) then this would have been a good explanation. -Gezim
Re: I am beginning to think
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Dave Feustel wrote: [mac mini+ms office:mac] I have been thinking about getting a Mac. I hadn't considered a mini, but that is an intriguing idea. What does the above hardware and software cost in the US? 1.25GHz/40GB/256MB ram Mac mini from $499. 1.42GHz/80GB/256MB ram Mac mini from $599. MS Office:mac 2004 $399.95. All prices from Apple's website and current as of right now. Cheers, -Christer
Re: more file descriptors for user www
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 13:05:54 +0200, Alexander Hall proclaimed... Create a new class (e.g. www or httpd) and use sudo (as root) to run httpd using that new class. What the hell are you talking about? Just change the www users' class and modify /etc/login.conf. It will then propagate.
Re: Linus at NewsForge...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Gezim Hoxha wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 01:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Linux really is becoming more like Microsoft. Maybe that's why the founde rof Gentoo now works for MS :-) ;) That makes no sense. If you'd said Maybe that's why the founde rof Microsoft now works for Gentoo :-) ;) then this would have been a good explanation. but that's not what happened. for real. -- And that's why we were unable to move the process forward.
Re: ADSL connection (PPPoE)
Is there any issues I should consider before buying this modem? Will it work with Open3.7? I know it works fine with Linux. I highly doubt there will be any issues. The communication between the switch (built-in to the modem) and your OpenBSD box uses the TCP/IP protocol. The OS is not even an issue. Also, you will communicate with the modem via the http protocol for config stuff. BTW, I do not own and have never used this modem, so YMMV. Is there any issues I should consider before taking the connection from the service prodiver? Any other technical details? None serious enough to mention. I really want my ADSL connection to work with Open3.7. It will. Does this guy even need a modem? (I know I should start a new thread with this, but here we go) Can't an OpenBSD box handle a PPPoE/PPPoA connection directly? I recently setup a VPN between two networks with DSL connections where the modems make a PPPoA connection. An OpenBSD box resides behind each modem. Basically, the modem gets an IP address dynamically, does the authentication, and gets the block of static IPs, one of which the OBSD box gets. So I was thinking, couldn't the OBSD box theoretically make the connection and eliminate the modem all together? Regards, Clint Pachl
Re: ADSL connection (PPPoE)
Clint Pachl wrote: Is there any issues I should consider before buying this modem? Will it work with Open3.7? I know it works fine with Linux. I highly doubt there will be any issues. The communication between the switch (built-in to the modem) and your OpenBSD box uses the TCP/IP protocol. The OS is not even an issue. Also, you will communicate with the modem via the http protocol for config stuff. BTW, I do not own and have never used this modem, so YMMV. Does the modem support bridging? Is there any issues I should consider before taking the connection from the service prodiver? Any other technical details? None serious enough to mention. I really want my ADSL connection to work with Open3.7. It will. Does this guy even need a modem? Don't you need a modem if you want to do ordinary 56k dialup? (I know I should start a new thread with this, but here we go) Can't an OpenBSD box handle a PPPoE/PPPoA connection directly? I recently setup a VPN between two networks with DSL connections where the modems make a PPPoA connection. An OpenBSD box resides behind each modem. Basically, the modem gets an IP address dynamically, does the authentication, and gets the block of static IPs, one of which the OBSD box gets. So I was thinking, couldn't the OBSD box theoretically make the connection and eliminate the modem all together? If your adsl modem supports bridging, you may most likely be able to run pppoe directly from OpenBSD. Telstra Internet Direct works really well. Here's the ppp.conf entry pppoe: set device !/usr/sbin/pppoe -i your external interface set mtu max 1492 set mru max 1492 set speed sync disable acfcomp protocomp deny acfcomp set authname your username set authkey your secret set ifaddr your permanent IP your default gateway add! default HISADDR The modem's a d-link 504g. Nothing exiting. But it bridges and I do everything else on my obsd box Regards, Clint Pachl