Re: mergemaster

2006-01-11 Thread Andrew Dalgleish
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 02:46:51PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
[snip]
> 
> The questions is, what *do* people use for updating /etc?

I use a cvs vendor branch.


Regards,
Andrew Dalgleish



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Teemu Schaabl wrote:

Ya.. Try to picture that. You would see Microsoft using tools design for
open source project on what they call their flag ship wonderful OS


I guess you mean "designed for open source project" .. what does that mean?
I don't think coverity designed their products for "open source projects" ..



Not that Coverity does design for Open Source. But DHS started this and 
said it was fro checking bugs in "Open Source Projects" and give a grant 
to Coverity, one of the three to help in that.


I guess you try to pick apart my writing and that's fair, but the idea I 
was expressing was this. Let say I am working for Microsoft, then people 
ask me about this DHS stuff, or it get some press, what ever. Instead of 
giving credit to some "Open Source Project" for the great work they have 
done over many years, I try to play it down obviously and said, well, we 
at Microsoft, we do not use tools design for "Open Source Project" we 
are better then that, we have our own tools and we use that. I guess we 
are getting in politics something that would never end, so I will let it go.


I guess you didn't see the sarcasm in my comments from a Microsoft 
representative point of view. Wouldn't you think the would actually 
react that way if they were ever asked why not also extend it to their 
software?


Coverity makes great products that have proven themselves over time and 
if my comments were taking as restricting their doing, then I should 
apologized for that as it sure wasn't!


I only picture Microsoft by their own doing and various announcements 
and press releases where every time they are playing down the "Open 
Source Projects" as been bad for everyone and trying to convince who 
ever want to listen to stay away from it, so I guess I can't imagine 
them announce that they use the same product in house to check their own 
software as what is use for checking the evil "Open Source" one. If they 
were doing that, then they would simply admit that they are not any better.


Anyway, we are getting way out of the subject now, so I should leave it 
alone.


I guess my sarcasm is not well written yet and I still need to work on 
it! (:>


Daniel



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Teemu Schaabl
Daniel Ouellet([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2006.01.11 23:51:00 -0500:
> Martin Schrvder wrote:
> >On 2006-01-11 16:18:13 -0500, Peter Landry wrote:
> >>Maybe I'm misreading the situation -- but won't this just give Open
> >>projects an even better chance to outpace closed system not subject to
> >>the same reviews in terms of security and reliability?
> >
> >These are automated auditings; the closed system providers can
> >simply buy the tools for these auditings. One hopes that they
> >do.
>
>
> Ya.. Try to picture that. You would see Microsoft using tools design for
> open source project on what they call their flag ship wonderful OS

I guess you mean "designed for open source project" .. what does that mean?
I don't think coverity designed their products for "open source projects" ..

cheers,
teemu
--
"Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision
 for the limits of the world." - Schopenhauer

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Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Thomas Börnert
Hi,

in german is a small good bank www.martinbank.de. They have really
no costs per month and per booking. it's the cheapest bank
in german that i know. and they have firewalls with a
very secure operating system. They will also support client
certificates in the next weeks for a much securer internet banking.
i use this with firefox without any problems.

Thomas

Am Mittwoch, den 11.01.2006, 19:29 -0700 schrieb Austin Hook:
> Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can
> recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good
> job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox?
> 
> North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our
> current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft.
> 
> Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either
> English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and
> fees problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Austin
> 
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Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet

C. Bensend wrote:

I've heard nothing but good about these cards, but I have heard
hardly anything about recovery and rebuild.  I'm assuming you need
to shut down, plug in the new drive, and go...  How quick is the
rebuild (subject to drive size of course)?



This was announce, explain and demonstrate in the archive by the chief 
itself a few months ago!


http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112630095818062&w=2

Look to me it rebuilt right and well without shutdown...

But may be I didn't read it properly... (;>

How ever, that is what I understood for sure...



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Martin Schrvder wrote:

On 2006-01-11 16:18:13 -0500, Peter Landry wrote:

Maybe I'm misreading the situation -- but won't this just give Open
projects an even better chance to outpace closed system not subject to
the same reviews in terms of security and reliability?


These are automated auditings; the closed system providers can
simply buy the tools for these auditings. One hopes that they
do.



Ya.. Try to picture that. You would see Microsoft using tools design for 
open source project on what they call their flag ship wonderful OS 
second to none and, at the same time trying to convince everyone in the 
world that open source project are bad for your security and business 
and offer no support and as they love to say it, doesn't reduce your 
cost of ownership.


Yeap, I can see them doing that...



Re: RAID card recommendations - Thanks for the responses

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
LSI Logic Megaraid cards (SATA/SCSI). work like a champ. If I'm not 
mistaken LSI is currently the only cooperative RAID controller vendor. 
Read mailing list archives.


One thing for sure. Anytime we have to buy hardware, what ever that 
might be, when ever possible we should stick with vendor that are 
friendly to our favorite OS when ever there is such a vendor!


If we can't force them to provide documentations, or be friendly, then 
may be we can at a minimum hit them where they understand, !


Just my thoughts.

I know I do and try to as much as possible when I have the choice of 
doing so.


Daniel



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Ted Walther

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:23:43PM +1100, Ioan Nemes wrote:

My suggestion to you is to CHANGE banks - urgently, as I did!
And tell them that you are NOT willing to use that `security hole`
to compromise your own systems!


Yes, that is right.  If you read his email a bit closer, you'll see he
is asking WHICH bank to switch to.  He already wants to switch away from
his present one.

How do you pronounce your name "Ioan" by the way?

Ted

--
 It's not true unless it makes you laugh,   
but you don't understand it until it makes you weep.


Eukleia: Ted Walther
Address: 5690 Pioneer Ave, Burnaby, BC  V5H2X6 (Canada)
Contact: 604-430-4973



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Ioan Nemes
My suggestion to you is to CHANGE banks - urgently, as I did!
And tell them that you are NOT willing to use that `security hole`
to compromise your own systems!

Ioan



>>> Austin Hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/01/2006 01:29:58 pm >>>
Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can
recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a
good
job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox?

North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but
our
current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft.

Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either
English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges
and
fees problem.

Thanks,

Austin
http://www.netcleanse.com



Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Austin Hook
Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can
recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good
job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox?

North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our
current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft.

Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either
English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and
fees problem.

Thanks,

Austin



Re: OpenBSD logo in xlock(1) life mode should be updated

2006-01-11 Thread Rod Dorman
On Tuesday, January 10, 2006, 20:56:34, veins wrote:
> AndrC)s Delfino wrote:
>>The logo which one can see is the old daemon, shouldn't it be Puffy now?
> should my tatoo be be updated too ? :-)

I'd be interested in seeing the diff for that :-)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"In theory, practice and theory are the same,
Rod Dorman  but in practice they are different."



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Ioan Nemes
>>> "C. Bensend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/01/2006 10:00:13 am >>>
> Wrong.
>
> When you set the machine up (or using bioctl) you label a drive as a
> hot spare.  When a failure happens, it automatically takes that
drive
> over and does a rebuild.
>
> Shut down?  You don't get it.  We wrote all this code because we
were
> tired of shutting down and doing the repairs in the BIOS.

No, I understand that just fine.  I should have been more specific -
if I have a failure, it does its thing, great.  But, I'd want to
replace the failed drive so I'd have a hot spare again.

That's the part I was asking about - you'd have to shutdown to
replace that failed drive when it's convenient.  Right?  I've
never touched a SATA anything in my life.


If one of the drive fails in a RAID configuration, the system should
automatically start using the hot spare, until you replace the failed
drive.  Once the failed drive is replaced, the hot spare should be
available again.  If your system can do hot-swap you are in business,
if not a system stop and restart is needed.

Ioan



Re: OT: "server quality" hardware; was: Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/01/11 16:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:19:12PM -0500, Jim Razmus wrote:
> > I have already replaced two Adaptec controllers with LSI Logic
> > MEGARAID SATA 150-6 cards.  I then added a call to bioctl in
> 
> These LSI Megaraid cards are 64-bit PCI, right?  Do they have a
> PCI Express version?

Yes, you can probably guess the search terms to find them.
There are currently SCSI and SAS PCIE cards, only the SCSI is
listed on the OpenBSD supported-hardware page. Of course
there are plenty of motherboards now with a 16-lane PCIE slot
that you don't need to use for a video adapter...

> What motherboards are folks using that support these (64 bit) PCI
> slots?  Most "consumer grade" x86 motherboards only have 32-bit PCI
> slots.  I've seen very few motherboards (at least at newegg) that
> have 64-bit PCI, and they're very expensive.

*in general*, a 64-bit card can be plugged into a 32-bit slot
and work (slower, obviously).



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 1/11/06, C. Bensend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wrong.
> >
> > When you set the machine up (or using bioctl) you label a drive as a
> > hot spare.  When a failure happens, it automatically takes that drive
> > over and does a rebuild.
> >
> > Shut down?  You don't get it.  We wrote all this code because we were
> > tired of shutting down and doing the repairs in the BIOS.
>
> No, I understand that just fine.  I should have been more specific -

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112630095818062&w=2

> if I have a failure, it does its thing, great.  But, I'd want to
> replace the failed drive so I'd have a hot spare again.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112630095818062&w=2

> That's the part I was asking about - you'd have to shutdown to
> replace that failed drive when it's convenient.  Right?

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112630095818062&w=2

>I've never touched a SATA anything in my life.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112630095818062&w=2


;)

--Bryan



Re: Henning is gone?

2006-01-11 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Ted Unangst wrote:

> On 1/11/06, Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got a bounce
> > back. Has he stopped working for OpenBSD? I haven't seen a commit
> > from him in month.
> >
> > Also I don't know any other email-address of him so I can't email
> > him any other way.
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?w=2&r=1&s=henning+brauer&q=a

Ted

That's an interesting post.  What I get from that is:

last post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was Jan 11, 2006

so we know Henning is still around and still posting to the lists.

last post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was Dec 19, 2005
last post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was Nov 27, 2005

maybe Henning's been on vacation from OpenBSD since Dec 19th, 2005?
or maybe since Nov 27, 2005?

I too sent e-mail to Henning in late December in order to get him in
contact with a network hardware person who was traveling in Europe over
the Holidays.  Oddly enough he never got the e-mail until I forwarded it
to his @bsws.de address, unfortunately by then the network guy was no
longer in Europe.

diana



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Jon Simola
On 1/11/06, C. Bensend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's the part I was asking about - you'd have to shutdown to
> replace that failed drive when it's convenient.  Right?  I've
> never touched a SATA anything in my life.

This is in a Supermicro 932 chassis, with the 15 slot SATA hotswap
backplane. Totally unmanaged which quite annoyed me.

The card does do auto rebuild. The drives are 300GB Maxline III, in a
RAID 1+0 (striping across 3 mirrored pairs) with 2 hot spares. During
testing we managed to cause multiple drive fails and even a double
fail, which was later attributed to the idiots who assembled it using
cheap 26 gauge SATA cables harvested from low-end motherboard
packages. Once I replaced them with the 24 gauge cables that
*came*in*the*LSI*box* the stopped having a drive failure every other
day.

I've got the rebuild rate set to 30% and generally takes 5 to 6 hours
with the 300GB drives. RAID5 would probably be a faster rebuild (more
spindles to read from).

--
Jon Simola
Systems Administrator
ABC Communications



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
> No, I understand that just fine.  I should have been more specific -
> if I have a failure, it does its thing, great.  But, I'd want to
> replace the failed drive so I'd have a hot spare again.
> 
> That's the part I was asking about - you'd have to shutdown to
> replace that failed drive when it's convenient.  Right?  I've
> never touched a SATA anything in my life.

Look, come on.

If you refuse to read the bioctl manual page and think about it, then
you must have come here to be declared a total idiot.

Come on.  Stop being a total idiot.



Re: PCI-X not seen by 3.8 on HP DL-145 G2

2006-01-11 Thread Bill Marquette
On 12/9/05, Srebrenko Sehic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 5) DL385, SCSI/RAID/SmartArray P600/6i/6400 = showstopper, OpenBSD
> can't see the raiser board and hence the RAID controller seated in it
> (tested on amd64/3.8-STABLE and -current)

I can confirm this is still the case on a snapshot from a couple days
ago.  dmesg sent in to dmesg@, I'd be willing to provide dmesg's for
i386 uni and mp kernels as well as amd64 uni and mp (already sent in
the mp).

The ciss driver works fine (no idea about speeds at this time, more on
that in a second).
The onboard broadcom nics do show up, but I can't seem to get link on them
pci-x connected cards are mia even though the pci-x bus looks like
it's configured (I believe on the uniprocessor kernel it didn't
configure it, I can recheck that).

With no network, it was kind of difficult to get anything on the
system for IO tests on the disks, which wasn't a huge deal for me in
the first place.

I might be able to provide one of these machines (like the whole
machine, not just access to it) to a developer interested in making it
work.  Contact me off-list if there's any interest and I'll see what I
can do.

--Bill



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread C. Bensend
> Wrong.
>
> When you set the machine up (or using bioctl) you label a drive as a
> hot spare.  When a failure happens, it automatically takes that drive
> over and does a rebuild.
>
> Shut down?  You don't get it.  We wrote all this code because we were
> tired of shutting down and doing the repairs in the BIOS.

No, I understand that just fine.  I should have been more specific -
if I have a failure, it does its thing, great.  But, I'd want to
replace the failed drive so I'd have a hot spare again.

That's the part I was asking about - you'd have to shutdown to
replace that failed drive when it's convenient.  Right?  I've
never touched a SATA anything in my life.


-- 
"As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals
to Hell."   - Unknown



OT: "server quality" hardware; was: Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread matthew . garman
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:19:12PM -0500, Jim Razmus wrote:
> I have already replaced two Adaptec controllers with LSI Logic
> MEGARAID SATA 150-6 cards.  I then added a call to bioctl in

These LSI Megaraid cards are 64-bit PCI, right?  Do they have a
PCI Express version?

What motherboards are folks using that support these (64 bit) PCI
slots?  Most "consumer grade" x86 motherboards only have 32-bit PCI
slots.  I've seen very few motherboards (at least at newegg) that
have 64-bit PCI, and they're very expensive.

> I have them setup with 5 drives in a RAID 5 configuration and the
> sixth drive is a hot spare.  I can't say enough about this card
> and it's support with OpenBSD.  In addition to replacing the
> existing cards, we build our new machines with them.

I get the impression that you're building "commercial" or
"industrial" quality machines... I use those terms very loosely,
i.e. you're building something that you expect to have as little
downtime as possible and last a while, correct?

What kind of hard drives are you using in your RAID?  I gather they
are SATA, but are they specially designed/manufactured "server
grade" drives, or just off-the-shelf consumer grade drives?

What I'm getting at is that I'd like to build a fairly beefy mass
storage box.  OpenBSD is so nice as a "set it and forget it" OS; I'd
like to have the same kind of confidence in my hardware (without
going broke).

Thanks!
Matt

-- 
Matt Garman
email at: http://raw-sewage.net/index.php?file=email



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > I've got a couple of the LSI 300-8X SATA cards. They certainly perform
> > wonderfully and at a good pricepoint.
> >
> > I had run into a problem on SMP AMD64 with ccb timeouts locking up the
> > box, which is doing some heavy NFS and DB. Upgrading the firmware
> > seems to have cleared that up (knock on wood).
> 
> I've heard nothing but good about these cards, but I have heard
> hardly anything about recovery and rebuild.  I'm assuming you need
> to shut down, plug in the new drive, and go...  

Wrong.

When you set the machine up (or using bioctl) you label a drive as a
hot spare.  When a failure happens, it automatically takes that drive
over and does a rebuild.

Shut down?  You don't get it.  We wrote all this code because we were
tired of shutting down and doing the repairs in the BIOS.

> How quick is the
> rebuild (subject to drive size of course)?

The card does it, so who cares.



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread C. Bensend
> I've got a couple of the LSI 300-8X SATA cards. They certainly perform
> wonderfully and at a good pricepoint.
>
> I had run into a problem on SMP AMD64 with ccb timeouts locking up the
> box, which is doing some heavy NFS and DB. Upgrading the firmware
> seems to have cleared that up (knock on wood).

I've heard nothing but good about these cards, but I have heard
hardly anything about recovery and rebuild.  I'm assuming you need
to shut down, plug in the new drive, and go...  How quick is the
rebuild (subject to drive size of course)?

Has anyone seen rebuild problems?

Benny


-- 
"As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals
to Hell."   - Unknown



Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Wednesday, January 11, "Constantine A. Murenin" wrote:
> 
> Anyone has any plans on this matter?

Do you have enough money to buy a few (note, more than 2) developers
the required hardware, along with the documentation (if they are not
using a "standard" PC bios) to do the port?  Are you willing to part
ways with it?  If you say yes to both, I'll devote some time to having
a good look at it... :)

--Toby.



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Jon Simola
On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have not used any of the SATA, but would consider that an option.

I've got a couple of the LSI 300-8X SATA cards. They certainly perform
wonderfully and at a good pricepoint.

I had run into a problem on SMP AMD64 with ccb timeouts locking up the
box, which is doing some heavy NFS and DB. Upgrading the firmware
seems to have cleared that up (knock on wood).


# grep ami0 /var/run/dmesg.boot
ami0 at pci4 dev 14 function 0 "Symbios Logic MegaRAID SATA 8x" rev
0x07: apic 4 int 0 (irq 5) LSI 3008 32b
ami0: FW 813J, BIOS vH430, 128MB RAM
ami0: 1 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives
scsibus0 at ami0: 40 targets
scsibus1 at ami0: 16 targets
# bioctl -i ami0
Volume  Status Size   Device
 ami0 0 Online   89072256 sd0 RAID10
  0 Online   300018565120 0:1.0   noencl 
  1 Online   300018565120 0:0.0   noencl 
  2 Online   300018565120 0:3.0   noencl 
  3 Online   300018565120 0:2.0   noencl 
  4 Online   300018565120 0:4.0   noencl 
  5 Online   300018565120 0:5.0   noencl 
 ami0 1 Unused   300018565120 0:6.0   noencl 
 ami0 2 Unused   300018565120 0:7.0   noencl 


--
Jon Simola
Systems Administrator
ABC Communications



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-01-11 16:18:13 -0500, Peter Landry wrote:
> Maybe I'm misreading the situation -- but won't this just give Open
> projects an even better chance to outpace closed system not subject to
> the same reviews in terms of security and reliability?

These are automated auditings; the closed system providers can
simply buy the tools for these auditings. One hopes that they
do.

Best
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet

eric wrote:

On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:06:37 -0500, Daniel Ouellet proclaimed...


The pass proved it as well. Tedu and Peter did a great job and 
definitely should be commended for that!


I was curious however as if the results of the bugs found would actually 
be public for everyone to see, or if they will be exclusively provided 
to developers as said in the articles?


Anyone know where it might be visible if so?



I'd think to check the commit logs on cvs@; after all, that's where
everything is announced.


I was more referring at the results from the output of the database that 
DHS is trying to built now, or will built I guess.


I was curious as to see the list grow in the database for each type of 
systems they will scan and see the results as well of that.


Kind of following security at large on various systems if you like, not 
only OpenBSD as I am sure the list will be very short if they find some 
in OpenBSD anyway, but I was curious as to all systems scan results.


Might actually speak for itself when users on the Internet start to see 
the list for Linux vs OpenBSD for example. (;>




Re: Problem mounting msdos fs on usb device

2006-01-11 Thread Alexander Hall

Tilo Stritzky wrote:

Hi,

I just tried to get my brand new iaudio mp3-player to work with OpenBSD-current.


I just bought one, too! U3, though. 1GB :-)


... and failed.


Not me!



When I plug it in it is properly recognized, fdisk and disklabel look
just fine (see below). The sizes reported make sense too, the thing
should have a little less than 1GB.

But when I try to mount the FS mount fails:
# mount -tmsdos /dev/sd0i /mnt
mount_msdos: /dev/sd0i on /mnt: Inappropriate file type or format


I succeded using mount_msdos (should be same as above). I might have 
tried sd0c or sd0a. Don't remember right now. You could try that, 
though. Otherwise you might want to investigate the output of disklabel.


Iaudio is sweet (so far). Need to try reencoding some movies for the U3. :-)

Good luck!

/Alexander



Re: RAID card recommendations - Thanks for the responses

2006-01-11 Thread tsmullins

I will stick to the LSI cards.  This is exactly the info I needed.

Shane

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Hannan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: RAID card recommendations


LSI Logic Megaraid cards (SATA/SCSI). work like a champ. If I'm not 
mistaken LSI is currently the only cooperative RAID controller vendor. 
Read mailing list archives.


-Tico

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have the oppurtunity to order some RAID controllers for my older OpenBSD
boxes.  Our newer machines use the Dell PERC controllers.  Could you 
please
recommend some RAID cards for OpenBSD?  I know which ones are supported, 
just
looking for some preferred cards.  I have not used any of the SATA, but 
would

consider that an option.

Thanks
Shane




Re: source code analysis (was: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD ....)

2006-01-11 Thread Claus Assmann
Question: would Coverity have found the three security holes in
sendmail 8.12 (and earlier versions)? Are there other source code
analysis tools that would have found those bugs? I know of one
company that did a source code inspection of sendmail and they
admitted that their tool would not have found those bugs
("unfortunately" they analysed only 8.12.11 in which those bugs
were fixed).

Does someone have experience with "good" source code analysis
tools? I tried some lint versions but those require a lot of
time to invest and it's not clear whether there is a good
"return" of that effort.



Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Matthew S Elmore

No, the preproduction systems were desktop, not portable systems.

They were basically standard PC guts in a G5 case.

Timo Schoeler wrote:

Thus Nick Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:40:26
-0500:


I have one of the developer transition systems:

Machine Name:   Apple Development Platform
  Machine Model:ADP2,1
  CPU Type: ADP2,1
  Number Of CPUs:   1
  CPU Speed:3.6 GHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
  CPU Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP
MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM
SSE3 MON DSCPL EST TM2 CX16 TPR
  Memory:   1 GB
  Bus Speed:800 MHz
  Boot ROM Version: EV91510A.86X.0450.2005.0513.0933 (Intel
Corp.)


It boots from the 3.8 CD just fine. I didn't see much point in trying
to do much with it with respect to OpenBSD since they are not
production.

Now they are offering to exchange it for one of the new iMacs, which
I plan on doing as soon as they fix the web form and let me order it.
When I get that I'll post full details...

-N


whew, is that a 3.6GHz P4 in a preproduction 'MacBook Pro'?




Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Jim Razmus
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060111 15:20]:
> I have the oppurtunity to order some RAID controllers for my older OpenBSD
> boxes.  Our newer machines use the Dell PERC controllers.  Could you please
> recommend some RAID cards for OpenBSD?  I know which ones are supported, just
> looking for some preferred cards.  I have not used any of the SATA, but would
> consider that an option.
> 
> Thanks
> Shane
> 

I have already replaced two Adaptec controllers with LSI Logic MEGARAID
SATA 150-6 cards.  I then added a call to bioctl in /etc/daily.local and
I get great information on my arrays every day.

I have them setup with 5 drives in a RAID 5 configuration and the sixth
drive is a hot spare.  I can't say enough about this card and it's
support with OpenBSD.

My team is targeting a few more servers for Adaptec controller
replacement.  I explained to Adaptec that we needed full
interoperability with th OS since some of the servers are in remote
locations.  A cute little buzzer doesn't do squat 40 miles away in an
un-manned room.

In addition to replacing the existing cards, we build our new machines
with them.

Cheers,
Jim



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread eric
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:06:37 -0500, Daniel Ouellet proclaimed...

> The pass proved it as well. Tedu and Peter did a great job and 
> definitely should be commended for that!
> 
> I was curious however as if the results of the bugs found would actually 
> be public for everyone to see, or if they will be exclusively provided 
> to developers as said in the articles?
> 
> Anyone know where it might be visible if so?

I'd think to check the commit logs on cvs@; after all, that's where
everything is announced.



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Peter Landry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ted Unangst
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

>On 1/11/06, John R. Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It's probably worse. Any vulnerabilities found will almost assuredly
be
>> classified or at least FOUO.
>
>pt!

Maybe I'm misreading the situation -- but won't this just give Open
projects an even better chance to outpace closed system not subject to
the same reviews in terms of security and reliability?



Re: Backup/Restore -panic: cannot open disk..., error 6

2006-01-11 Thread Dede Dascalu
It looks like the problem is with the 3.8 install. In my first  
message I mentioned that I was able to install 3.6 successfully of  
the CD. The image I am trying to restore is from a 3.8 system... so I  
just tried installing 3.8 from a CD and the installation failed with  
the message "No disks found" confirming that the 3.8 kernel does not  
automatically support the Perc 3/Di driver (Adaptec AIC-7899F).


A little further reading seems to hint that Adaptec RAID controller  
support is non-existent in 3.8 ... is this correct?

http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#38

Dede


On Jan 11, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Tom Cosgrove wrote:


Well, that's easy then.

Your destination machine has no sd0 device, so the kernel can't
find its root filesystem.

Have you plugged the disk into the "Dell PERC 3/Di" which is "not
configured" (i.e. no driver)?

Good luck

Tom


Dede Dascalu 11-Jan-06 16:44 >>>


Here is some more info.
--
dmesg on SOURCE machine
--
OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class)  
2.39 GHz

cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE 
36,

CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID
real mem  = 536289280 (523720K)
avail mem = 482439168 (471132K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26918912 bytes (26288K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/02/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xffe90
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfc4a0/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 ("ServerWorks CSB5
SouthBridge" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x1000 0xc9000/0x4000
0xcd000/0x1800 0xec000/0x4000!
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x33
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x00
pci1 at pchb1 bus 1
em0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB)" rev 0x01:
irq 7, address: 00:04:23:a9:85:50
em1 at pci1 dev 4 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB)" rev 0x01:
irq 5, address: 00:04:23:a9:85:51
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x00
pci2 at pchb2 bus 3
ppb0 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 "IBM PCIX-PCIX" rev 0x02
pci3 at ppb0 bus 4
em2 at pci3 dev 4 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev
0x01: irq 7, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a0
em3 at pci3 dev 4 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev
0x01: irq 5, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a1
em4 at pci3 dev 6 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev
0x01: irq 7, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a2
em5 at pci3 dev 6 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev
0x01: irq 5, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a3
vga1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 "ATI Rage XL" rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pchb3 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "ServerWorks CSB5 SouthBridge" rev  
0x93
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 "ServerWorks CSB5 IDE" rev 0x93:  
DMA

atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 "ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB" rev 0x05:
irq 11, version 1.0, legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: ServerWorks OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
pcib0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 "ServerWorks CSB5 PCI" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "ServerWorks CIOB-E" rev 0x12
pchb5 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "ServerWorks CIOB-E" rev 0x12
pci4 at pchb5 bus 2
bge0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x02, BCM5704
A2 (0x2002): irq 7 address 00:0d:56:fd:73:a0
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
bge1 at pci4 dev 0 function 1 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x02, BCM5704
A2 (0x2002): irq 5 address 00:0d:56:fd:73:a1
brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
pchb6 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "ServerWorks CIOBX2" rev 0x05
pchb7 at pci0 dev 17 function 2 "ServerWorks CIOBX2" rev 0x05
pci5 at pchb7 bus 5
mpt0 at pci5 dev 5 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x07: irq 7
mpt0: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 33280)
mpt0: IM support: 0
scsibus1 at mpt0: 16 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI3 0/
direct fixed
sd0: 34732MB, 48122 cyl, 2 head, 739 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec
total
safte0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0:  SCSI2 3/
processor fixed
mpt0: target 0 Synchronous at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 1 DT
1 IU 1
mpt1 at pci5 dev 5 function 1 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x07: irq 5
mpt1: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 33280)
mpt1: IM support: 0
scsibus2 at mpt1: 16 targets
isa

Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread John R. Shannon
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 13:18, you wrote:
> :
> : It's probably worse. Any vulnerabilities found will almost assuredly
> : be classified or at least FOUO.
>
> That is so wrong, I can't even describe it.
>
> (Note: I am an employee of Coverity)

Really? 

What about NSTISSD 503, "Incident Response and Vulnerability Reporting for 
National Security System",

"Protection of Vulnerability Reports - a. Vulnerability reports shall be 
protected from public disclosure in accordance with applicable statures, 
directives, executive orders, and regulations. b. Vulnerability reports for 
commercial off-the shelf systems or components...shall be unclassified and 
marked...FOUO. c. Reports of vulnerabilities in national security systems 
that are not available for purchase by the general public shall be 
unclassified unless the exploitation of the vulnerability would result in the 
compromise of classified information or would present a significant negative 
impact on a national security organizational mission. In those instances, the 
originator may place a maximum classification on the vulnerability report 
equal to the level of the classified information processed on that system."

-- 
John R. Shannon



Re: Henning is gone?

2006-01-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On 1/11/06, Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got a bounce
> back. Has he stopped working for OpenBSD? I haven't seen a commit
> from him in month.
>
> Also I don't know any other email-address of him so I can't email
> him any other way.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?w=2&r=1&s=henning+brauer&q=a



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Peter Hessler wrote:

: It's probably worse. Any vulnerabilities found will almost assuredly
: be classified or at least FOUO.

That is so wrong, I can't even describe it.

(Note: I am an employee of Coverity)


The pass proved it as well. Tedu and Peter did a great job and 
definitely should be commended for that!


I was curious however as if the results of the bugs found would actually 
be public for everyone to see, or if they will be exclusively provided 
to developers as said in the articles?


Anyone know where it might be visible if so?



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On 1/11/06, John R. Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's probably worse. Any vulnerabilities found will almost assuredly be
> classified or at least FOUO.

pt!



Re: SVND Encryption

2006-01-11 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 11:38:56AM -0800, Don Smith wrote:
> If I use a 50 character key for my SVND encrypted
> filesystems, do all bits get used in the Blowfish key,
> or is the key length limited to anything below 448
> bits? If I typed in a 56 character (448 bit) key at
> the prompt, would the whole thing be used?

Yes

Tobias 



Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread nothingness
Timo Schoeler wrote:

>
>as phil schiller confirmed, those intel 'Macs' run Windoze (TM) out of
>the box. i bet OpenBSD does, too ;)
>
>  
>
Yes, if OpenBSD supports EFI booting. Those new Intel Macs use the
Itanium (and future x86) method, not clunky old bios. But I've been
unable to find out if OpenBSD has a compatible bootloader for that.

Noth



SVND Encryption

2006-01-11 Thread Don Smith
If I use a 50 character key for my SVND encrypted
filesystems, do all bits get used in the Blowfish key,
or is the key length limited to anything below 448
bits? If I typed in a 56 character (448 bit) key at
the prompt, would the whole thing be used?
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Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Peter Hessler
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:09:15 -0700
"John R. Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: On Wednesday 11 January 2006 12:36, you wrote:
: > >"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is extending the scope of
: > >its protection to open-source software."
: > >...
: > >"The list of open-source projects that Stanford and Coverity plan
: > >to check for security bugs includes Apache, BIND, Ethereal, KDE,
: > >Linux, Firefox, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL and MySQL..."
: >
: > I just find it sad that they do this, quote from the article:
: >
: > "It is regrettable that DHS has decided once more to ensure that
: > private enterprise profits from the funding, while the open-source
: > developers are left to beg for the scraps from the table," he said.
: > "Why does the DHS think it is worthwhile to pay for bugs to be
: > found, but has made no provision to pay for them to be fixed?"
: >
: > And why don't they force Microsoft to fix their own bugs that are
: > present for years, that they know about and do nothing about it
: > either.
: >
: > I don't think OpenBSD is contributing to the insecurity of the
: > Internet, but Microsoft is, so they are not looking at the right
: > place, but again, I guess they get political contributions they
: > help them make their choices! Beating up on the one that do it
: > right and pockets from the one that have the money and tell you to
: > shut up!
: >
: > I think their database would blow up if they would start to really
: > scan daily like they say on Microsoft softwares!
: >
: > Then pay close source to tell open source how to do things! All
: > backwards I tell you!
: >
: > Very sad...
: 
: It's probably worse. Any vulnerabilities found will almost assuredly
: be classified or at least FOUO.

That is so wrong, I can't even describe it.

(Note: I am an employee of Coverity)



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Thomas Hannan
LSI Logic Megaraid cards (SATA/SCSI). work like a champ. If I'm not 
mistaken LSI is currently the only cooperative RAID controller vendor. 
Read mailing list archives.


-Tico

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have the oppurtunity to order some RAID controllers for my older OpenBSD
boxes.  Our newer machines use the Dell PERC controllers.  Could you please
recommend some RAID cards for OpenBSD?  I know which ones are supported, just
looking for some preferred cards.  I have not used any of the SATA, but would
consider that an option.

Thanks
Shane




Re: Problems mounting cdrom

2006-01-11 Thread Anders Normann

Joachim Schipper skrev:

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:23:21PM +0100, Anders Normann wrote:
  
I am a newbie when it comes to OpenBSD, but have already set up my 
web-server with 3.8 and is quite happy with the ease of installation and 
the way it behaves. Have also installed 3.8 on a spare pc which sits in 
a closet and is used for testing. Use ssh to connect to that pc.


But ran into problems when trying to mount a cd by the command: mount -t 
cd9660 /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom which returned the error message: 
input/output error.
Thereafter it was impossible to release the cd and trying to "umount" it 
was to no avail; it was not mounted!


What am I doing wrong? Include the output of dmesg.

OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.42 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,CNXT-ID
real mem = 1073258496 (1048104K)



I want some of that spares you have.

Aside from that, I don't see anything obviously wrong outside the error
message itself. Is cd0 working correctly under other OSes? Are all
cables securely in place? Does switching cd0 and cd1 help?

Joachim



  
Am afraid you may be right about the cables as a possible source to the 
problems. CD1 was even worse so suspect a loose or defect cable. Don't 
use the cdrom on this pc a lot, but was planning to follow stable and 
wanted to copy files from cd. Shall have a look later, but need to clear 
some mess from the closet first.


As for the spare, it used to be my everyday pc, but it had a noisy fan, 
and I bought a laptop to use on my desktop and the project is really to 
convert the laptop to OpenBSD, but am not finished with the wireless 
setup yet. Things take time.


Thank you for the suggestions.



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread John R. Shannon
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 13:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have the oppurtunity to order some RAID controllers for my older OpenBSD
> boxes.  Our newer machines use the Dell PERC controllers.  Could you please
> recommend some RAID cards for OpenBSD?  I know which ones are supported,
> just looking for some preferred cards.  I have not used any of the SATA,
> but would consider that an option.

I'm having good success with the LSI MegaRAID products. They are available for
both SATA and SCSI. I have several LSI MEGARAID SATA 150-4.

--
John R. Shannon, CISSP
Sr. Software Scientist
Science Applications International Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which 
had a name of smime.p7s]



Re: RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the oppurtunity to order some RAID controllers for my older OpenBSD
> boxes.  Our newer machines use the Dell PERC controllers.  Could you please
> recommend some RAID cards for OpenBSD?  I know which ones are supported, just
> looking for some preferred cards.  I have not used any of the SATA, but would
> consider that an option.

I just started using SATA RAID, and LSI-Logic makes a really really nice card.

--Bryan



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread John R. Shannon
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 12:36, you wrote:
> >"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is extending the scope of
> >its protection to open-source software."
> >...
> >"The list of open-source projects that Stanford and Coverity plan to
> >check for security bugs includes Apache, BIND, Ethereal, KDE, Linux,
> >Firefox, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL and MySQL..."
>
> I just find it sad that they do this, quote from the article:
>
> "It is regrettable that DHS has decided once more to ensure that private
> enterprise profits from the funding, while the open-source developers
> are left to beg for the scraps from the table," he said. "Why does the
> DHS think it is worthwhile to pay for bugs to be found, but has made no
> provision to pay for them to be fixed?"
>
> And why don't they force Microsoft to fix their own bugs that are
> present for years, that they know about and do nothing about it either.
>
> I don't think OpenBSD is contributing to the insecurity of the Internet,
> but Microsoft is, so they are not looking at the right place, but again,
> I guess they get political contributions they help them make their
> choices! Beating up on the one that do it right and pockets from the one
> that have the money and tell you to shut up!
>
> I think their database would blow up if they would start to really scan
> daily like they say on Microsoft softwares!
>
> Then pay close source to tell open source how to do things! All
> backwards I tell you!
>
> Very sad...

It's probably worse. Any vulnerabilities found will almost assuredly be 
classified or at least FOUO.

-- 
John R. Shannon



RAID card recommendations

2006-01-11 Thread tsmullins
I have the oppurtunity to order some RAID controllers for my older OpenBSD
boxes.  Our newer machines use the Dell PERC controllers.  Could you please
recommend some RAID cards for OpenBSD?  I know which ones are supported, just
looking for some preferred cards.  I have not used any of the SATA, but would
consider that an option.

Thanks
Shane



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet

"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is extending the scope of
its protection to open-source software."
...
"The list of open-source projects that Stanford and Coverity plan to
check for security bugs includes Apache, BIND, Ethereal, KDE, Linux,
Firefox, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL and MySQL..."


I just find it sad that they do this, quote from the article:

"It is regrettable that DHS has decided once more to ensure that private 
enterprise profits from the funding, while the open-source developers 
are left to beg for the scraps from the table," he said. "Why does the 
DHS think it is worthwhile to pay for bugs to be found, but has made no 
provision to pay for them to be fixed?"


And why don't they force Microsoft to fix their own bugs that are 
present for years, that they know about and do nothing about it either.


I don't think OpenBSD is contributing to the insecurity of the Internet, 
but Microsoft is, so they are not looking at the right place, but again, 
I guess they get political contributions they help them make their 
choices! Beating up on the one that do it right and pockets from the one 
that have the money and tell you to shut up!


I think their database would blow up if they would start to really scan 
daily like they say on Microsoft softwares!


Then pay close source to tell open source how to do things! All 
backwards I tell you!


Very sad...



Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Axton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is extending the scope of
> its protection to open-source software."
> ...
> "The list of open-source projects that Stanford and Coverity plan to
> check for security bugs includes Apache, BIND, Ethereal, KDE, Linux,
> Firefox, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL and MySQL..."

...and then as soon as they hear any anti-war sentiment from north of the
border they'll change their mind? ;)

DS



Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Nick Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:40:26
-0500:

> I have one of the developer transition systems:
> 
> Machine Name: Apple Development Platform
>   Machine Model:  ADP2,1
>   CPU Type:   ADP2,1
>   Number Of CPUs: 1
>   CPU Speed:  3.6 GHz
>   L2 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
>   CPU Features:   FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP
> MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM
> SSE3 MON DSCPL EST TM2 CX16 TPR
>   Memory: 1 GB
>   Bus Speed:  800 MHz
>   Boot ROM Version:   EV91510A.86X.0450.2005.0513.0933 (Intel
> Corp.)
> 
> 
> It boots from the 3.8 CD just fine. I didn't see much point in trying
> to do much with it with respect to OpenBSD since they are not
> production.
> 
> Now they are offering to exchange it for one of the new iMacs, which
> I plan on doing as soon as they fix the web form and let me order it.
> When I get that I'll post full details...
> 
> -N

whew, is that a 3.6GHz P4 in a preproduction 'MacBook Pro'?



Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Nick Bender
I have one of the developer transition systems:

Machine Name:   Apple Development Platform
  Machine Model:ADP2,1
  CPU Type: ADP2,1
  Number Of CPUs:   1
  CPU Speed:3.6 GHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
  CPU Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE
MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON
DSCPL EST TM2 CX16 TPR
  Memory:   1 GB
  Bus Speed:800 MHz
  Boot ROM Version: EV91510A.86X.0450.2005.0513.0933 (Intel Corp.)


It boots from the 3.8 CD just fine. I didn't see much point in trying to do
much with it with respect to OpenBSD since they are not production.

Now they are offering to exchange it for one of the new iMacs, which
I plan on doing as soon as they fix the web form and let me order it.
When I get that I'll post full details...

-N



Problem mounting msdos fs on usb device

2006-01-11 Thread Tilo Stritzky
Hi,

I just tried to get my brand new iaudio mp3-player to work with OpenBSD-current.
... and failed.

When I plug it in it is properly recognized, fdisk and disklabel look
just fine (see below). The sizes reported make sense too, the thing
should have a little less than 1GB.

But when I try to mount the FS mount fails:
# mount -tmsdos /dev/sd0i /mnt
mount_msdos: /dev/sd0i on /mnt: Inappropriate file type or format

The device is supposed to have an FAT-file system on it, 
and works fine with FreeBsd.

Can someone enlighten me on this?
Am I missing something ultraimportant or is it bug?

regards
tilo

typescript with output of fdisk, disklabel and dmesg follows:
# mount -tmsdos /dev/sd0i /mnt
mount_msdos: /dev/sd0i on /mnt: Inappropriate file type or format
# fdisk sd0
fdisk: sysctl(machdep.bios.diskinfo): Device not configured
Disk: sd0   geometry: 992/64/32 [2032128 Sectors]
Offset: 0   Signature: 0xAA55
 Starting   Ending   LBA Info:
 #: idC   H  S -C   H  S [   start:  size   ]

*0: 0B0   1 32 -  992  15 32 [  63: 2032065 ] Win95 FAT-32
 1: 000   0  0 -0   0  0 [   0:   0 ] unused  
 2: 000   0  0 -0   0  0 [   0:   0 ] unused  
 3: 000   0  0 -0   0  0 [   0:   0 ] unused  
# disklabel sd0
disklabel: warning, DOS partition table with no valid OpenBSD partition
# /dev/rsd0c:
type: SCSI
disk: SCSI disk
label: iAUDIO G3   
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 32
tracks/cylinder: 64
sectors/cylinder: 2048
cylinders: 992
total sectors: 2032128
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # microseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # microseconds
drivedata: 0 

16 partitions:
# sizeoffset  fstype [fsize bsize  cpg]
  c:   2032128 0  unused  0 0  # Cyl 0 -   992*
  i:   203206563   MSDOS   # Cyl 0*-   992*
# dmesg
OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ ("AuthenticAMD" 686-class, 256KB L2 cache) 
1.79 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
cpu0: AMD Powernow: FID VID TTP
real mem  = 468230144 (457256K)
avail mem = 420032512 (410188K)
using 4278 buffers containing 23515136 bytes (22964K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(81) BIOS, date 12/17/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd730
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd730/0x8d0
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf10/208 (11 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("Acer Labs M1533 ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf000 0xcf000/0x800 0xdf000/0x1000! 0xe/0x4000!
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ATI RS100 AGP" rev 0x13
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "ATI RS100 PCI" rev 0x01
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "ATI Radeon IGP 320M" rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Acer Labs M5237 USB" rev 0x03: irq 9, version 
1.0, legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Acer Labs OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
autri0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Acer Labs M5451 Audio" rev 0x02: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x43585429 (Conexant CX20468 rev 1)
ac97: codec features reserved, headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at autri0
midi0 at autri0: <4DWAVE MIDI UART>
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Acer Labs M1533 ISA" rev 0x00
"Acer Labs M5457 Modem" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 not configured
cbb0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "O2 Micro OZ69[17]2 CardBus" rev 0x00: irq 5
"Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 FireWire" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 not 
configured
pciide0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE" rev 0xc4: DMA, 
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28615MB, 58605120 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
"Acer Labs M7101 Power" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 not configured
sis0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "NS DP83815 10/100" rev 0x00: DP83816A, irq 11, 
address 00:0b:cd:34:69:2f
nsphyter0 at sis0 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: u

new iic(4) stuff

2006-01-11 Thread Okan Demirmen
i really like the new stuff here, but i've got a question. in lm(4)'s
manpage, it states:

Some devices can attach to both iic(4) and isa(4); others can
only attach to either one or the other.  Devices that can attach
to both will only attach to isa(4) to prevent double attachment.

however, on my only 2 amd64's, i'm seeing both attaching. maybe i'm
missing something.

i only know that the second box (below) used to have only lm0 attaching
on isa(4) a few weeks back. the other one (first one) is a new install.

one sysctl and dmesg per machine follows...

first box:

$ sysctl hw.sensors
hw.sensors.0=lm1, VCore A, volts_dc, 0.14 V
hw.sensors.1=lm1, VCore B, volts_dc, 1.54 V
hw.sensors.2=lm1, +3.3V, volts_dc, 3.42 V
hw.sensors.3=lm1, +5V, volts_dc, 5.11 V
hw.sensors.4=lm1, +12V, volts_dc, 5.05 V
hw.sensors.5=lm1, -12V, volts_dc, -1.35 V
hw.sensors.6=lm1, -5V, volts_dc, -3.54 V
hw.sensors.7=lm1, 5VSB, volts_dc, 5.16 V
hw.sensors.8=lm1, VBAT, volts_dc, 3.30 V
hw.sensors.9=lm1, Temp1, temp, -19.00 degC / -2.20 degF
hw.sensors.10=lm1, Temp2, temp, -28.00 degC / -18.40 degF
hw.sensors.11=lm1, Temp3, temp, -10.50 degC / 13.10 degF
hw.sensors.12=lm1, Fan1, fanrpm, 10074 RPM
hw.sensors.13=lm1, Fan2, fanrpm, 10074 RPM
hw.sensors.14=lm1, Fan3, fanrpm, 9440 RPM
hw.sensors.15=adt0, +2.5Vin, volts_dc, 0.00 V
hw.sensors.16=adt0, Vccp1, volts_dc, 2.69 V
hw.sensors.18=adt0, Int. Temp., temp, 39.00 degC / 102.20 degF
hw.sensors.19=adt0, Rem1 Temp., temp, 46.00 degC / 114.80 degF
hw.sensors.20=adt0, TACH1, fanrpm, 16564 RPM
hw.sensors.21=adt0, TACH1, fanrpm, 16363 RPM
hw.sensors.22=adt0, TACH1, fanrpm, 1 RPM
hw.sensors.24=lm0, VCore A, volts_dc, 0.14 V
hw.sensors.25=lm0, VCore B, volts_dc, 1.54 V
hw.sensors.26=lm0, +3.3V, volts_dc, 3.42 V
hw.sensors.27=lm0, +5V, volts_dc, 5.11 V
hw.sensors.28=lm0, +12V, volts_dc, 5.05 V
hw.sensors.29=lm0, -12V, volts_dc, -1.35 V
hw.sensors.30=lm0, -5V, volts_dc, -3.59 V
hw.sensors.31=lm0, 5VSB, volts_dc, 5.16 V
hw.sensors.32=lm0, VBAT, volts_dc, 3.30 V
hw.sensors.33=lm0, Temp1, temp, -19.00 degC / -2.20 degF
hw.sensors.34=lm0, Temp2, temp, -28.00 degC / -18.40 degF
hw.sensors.35=lm0, Temp3, temp, -10.50 degC / 13.10 degF
hw.sensors.36=lm0, Fan1, fanrpm, 10074 RPM
hw.sensors.37=lm0, Fan2, fanrpm, 10074 RPM
hw.sensors.38=lm0, Fan3, fanrpm, 9440 RPM
$ dmesg
OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #417: Mon Jan  9 20:39:27 MST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 1073278976 (1048124K)
avail mem = 908677120 (887380K)
using 22937 buffers containing 107536384 bytes (105016K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 244, 1791.66 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,NXE,MMXX,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 
16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "AMD 8111 PCI-PCI" rev 0x07
pci1 at ppb0 bus 3
ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: irq 9, version 1.0, 
legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: irq 9, version 1.0, 
legacy support
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: AMD OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
pciide0 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3114 SATA" rev 0x02: DMA
pciide0: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
vga1 at pci1 dev 6 function 0 "ATI Rage XL" rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "AMD AMD8111 LPC" rev 0x05
pciide1 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "AMD 8111 IDE" rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
amdiic0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "AMD 8111 SMBus" rev 0x02: SCI
iic0 at amdiic0
amdpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "AMD 8111 Power" rev 0x05: rng active
iic1 at amdpm0
lm1 at iic1 addr 0x28: W83627HF
adt0 at iic1 addr 0x2d: adm1027 (ADT7460) rev 6a
ppb1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
bge0 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3 
(0x2003): irq 5, address 00:e0:81:2f:7c:94
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
bge1 at pci2 dev 9 function 1 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3 
(0x2003): irq 10, address 00:e0:81:2f:7c:95
brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: 

Re: DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Dries Schellekens

Axton wrote:

First post here, not sure if this is the right forum.  Let me know if not.


From the article:


"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is extending the scope of
its protection to open-source software."
...
"The list of open-source projects that Stanford and Coverity plan to
check for security bugs includes Apache, BIND, Ethereal, KDE, Linux,
Firefox, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL and MySQL..."

http://news.com.com/Homeland+Security+helps+secure+open-source+code/2100-1002_3-6025579.html


Ted Unangst (and Peter Hessler) work at Coverity. Various bugs have 
allready been found by their tool and fixed in OpenBSD.



Cheers,

Dries



Re: Backup/Restore -panic: cannot open disk..., error 6

2006-01-11 Thread Tom Cosgrove
Well, that's easy then.

Your destination machine has no sd0 device, so the kernel can't
find its root filesystem.

Have you plugged the disk into the "Dell PERC 3/Di" which is "not
configured" (i.e. no driver)?

Good luck

Tom

>>> Dede Dascalu 11-Jan-06 16:44 >>>
>
> Here is some more info.
> --
> dmesg on SOURCE machine
> --
> OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
> cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.39 GHz
> cpu0:  
> FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36, 
> CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID
> real mem  = 536289280 (523720K)
> avail mem = 482439168 (471132K)
> using 4278 buffers containing 26918912 bytes (26288K) of memory
> mainbus0 (root)
> bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/02/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @  
> 0xffe90
> pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
> pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfc4a0/144 (7 entries)
> pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 ("ServerWorks CSB5  
> SouthBridge" rev 0x00)
> pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
> bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x1000 0xc9000/0x4000  
> 0xcd000/0x1800 0xec000/0x4000!
> cpu0 at mainbus0
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x33
> pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x00
> pci1 at pchb1 bus 1
> em0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB)" rev 0x01:  
> irq 7, address: 00:04:23:a9:85:50
> em1 at pci1 dev 4 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB)" rev 0x01:  
> irq 5, address: 00:04:23:a9:85:51
> pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x00
> pci2 at pchb2 bus 3
> ppb0 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 "IBM PCIX-PCIX" rev 0x02
> pci3 at ppb0 bus 4
> em2 at pci3 dev 4 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
> 0x01: irq 7, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a0
> em3 at pci3 dev 4 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
> 0x01: irq 5, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a1
> em4 at pci3 dev 6 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
> 0x01: irq 7, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a2
> em5 at pci3 dev 6 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
> 0x01: irq 5, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a3
> vga1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 "ATI Rage XL" rev 0x27
> wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> pchb3 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "ServerWorks CSB5 SouthBridge" rev 0x93
> pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 "ServerWorks CSB5 IDE" rev 0x93: DMA
> atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
> scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom  
> removable
> cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
> ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 "ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB" rev 0x05:  
> irq 11, version 1.0, legacy support
> usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0 at usb0
> uhub0: ServerWorks OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
> pcib0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 "ServerWorks CSB5 PCI" rev 0x00
> pchb4 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "ServerWorks CIOB-E" rev 0x12
> pchb5 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "ServerWorks CIOB-E" rev 0x12
> pci4 at pchb5 bus 2
> bge0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x02, BCM5704  
> A2 (0x2002): irq 7 address 00:0d:56:fd:73:a0
> brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
> bge1 at pci4 dev 0 function 1 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x02, BCM5704  
> A2 (0x2002): irq 5 address 00:0d:56:fd:73:a1
> brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
> pchb6 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "ServerWorks CIOBX2" rev 0x05
> pchb7 at pci0 dev 17 function 2 "ServerWorks CIOBX2" rev 0x05
> pci5 at pchb7 bus 5
> mpt0 at pci5 dev 5 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x07: irq 7
> mpt0: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 33280)
> mpt0: IM support: 0
> scsibus1 at mpt0: 16 targets
> sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI3 0/ 
> direct fixed
> sd0: 34732MB, 48122 cyl, 2 head, 739 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec  
> total
> safte0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0:  SCSI2 3/ 
> processor fixed
> mpt0: target 0 Synchronous at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 1 DT  
> 1 IU 1
> mpt1 at pci5 dev 5 function 1 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x07: irq 5
> mpt1: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 33280)
> mpt1: IM support: 0
> scsibus2 at mpt1: 16 targets
> isa0 at pcib0
> isadma0 at isa0
> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
> wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> midi0 at pcppi0: 
> spkr0 at pcppi0
> sysbeep0 at pcppi0
> npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
> pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3

Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Dimitry Andric
Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> I know it's kind of early, but is OpenBSD/i386 going to run peacefully
> on the yesterday-announced Apple MacBook Pro, or for that matter the
> iMac with Intel Code Duo processor? :-)

Probably, once you donate a few of them to the OpenBSD developers. ;)

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Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I know it's kind of early, but is OpenBSD/i386 going to run peacefully
> on the yesterday-announced Apple MacBook Pro, or for that matter the
> iMac with Intel Code Duo processor? :-)

Give us one, then we'll be able to tell you.



Re: Backup/Restore -panic: cannot open disk..., error 6

2006-01-11 Thread Dede Dascalu

Here is some more info.
--
dmesg on SOURCE machine
--
OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.39 GHz
cpu0:  
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36, 
CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID

real mem  = 536289280 (523720K)
avail mem = 482439168 (471132K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26918912 bytes (26288K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/02/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @  
0xffe90

pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfc4a0/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 ("ServerWorks CSB5  
SouthBridge" rev 0x00)

pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x1000 0xc9000/0x4000  
0xcd000/0x1800 0xec000/0x4000!

cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x33
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x00
pci1 at pchb1 bus 1
em0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB)" rev 0x01:  
irq 7, address: 00:04:23:a9:85:50
em1 at pci1 dev 4 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB)" rev 0x01:  
irq 5, address: 00:04:23:a9:85:51

pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "ServerWorks CNB20-HE" rev 0x00
pci2 at pchb2 bus 3
ppb0 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 "IBM PCIX-PCIX" rev 0x02
pci3 at ppb0 bus 4
em2 at pci3 dev 4 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
0x01: irq 7, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a0
em3 at pci3 dev 4 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
0x01: irq 5, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a1
em4 at pci3 dev 6 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
0x01: irq 7, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a2
em5 at pci3 dev 6 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT QP (82546EB)" rev  
0x01: irq 5, address: 00:04:23:bc:4d:a3

vga1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 "ATI Rage XL" rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pchb3 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "ServerWorks CSB5 SouthBridge" rev 0x93
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 "ServerWorks CSB5 IDE" rev 0x93: DMA
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom  
removable

cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 "ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB" rev 0x05:  
irq 11, version 1.0, legacy support

usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: ServerWorks OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
pcib0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 "ServerWorks CSB5 PCI" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "ServerWorks CIOB-E" rev 0x12
pchb5 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "ServerWorks CIOB-E" rev 0x12
pci4 at pchb5 bus 2
bge0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x02, BCM5704  
A2 (0x2002): irq 7 address 00:0d:56:fd:73:a0

brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
bge1 at pci4 dev 0 function 1 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x02, BCM5704  
A2 (0x2002): irq 5 address 00:0d:56:fd:73:a1

brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
pchb6 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "ServerWorks CIOBX2" rev 0x05
pchb7 at pci0 dev 17 function 2 "ServerWorks CIOBX2" rev 0x05
pci5 at pchb7 bus 5
mpt0 at pci5 dev 5 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x07: irq 7
mpt0: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 33280)
mpt0: IM support: 0
scsibus1 at mpt0: 16 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI3 0/ 
direct fixed
sd0: 34732MB, 48122 cyl, 2 head, 739 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec  
total
safte0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0:  SCSI2 3/ 
processor fixed
mpt0: target 0 Synchronous at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 1 DT  
1 IU 1

mpt1 at pci5 dev 5 function 1 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x07: irq 5
mpt1: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 33280)
mpt1: IM support: 0
scsibus2 at mpt1: 16 targets
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: 
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask efed netmask efed ttymask ffef
pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled
dkcsum: sd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on sd0a
rootdev=0x400 rrootdev=0xd00 rawdev=0xd02
WARNING: / was not properly unmounted
umass0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0
umass0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Titanium, rev 2.00/20.00, addr 2
umass0: using S

Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake on Wed, 11 Jan 2006
10:24:07 -0600:

> I think you should donate one to every member of OpenBSD.  I'll bet
> it'll be supported in no time :-)
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:52:20PM +, Constantine A. Murenin
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I know it's kind of early, but is OpenBSD/i386 going to run
> > peacefully on the yesterday-announced Apple MacBook Pro, or for
> > that matter the iMac with Intel Code Duo processor? :-)
> > 
> > Anyone has any plans on this matter?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Constantine.

as phil schiller confirmed, those intel 'Macs' run Windoze (TM) out of
the box. i bet OpenBSD does, too ;)



DHS Grant to analye OpenBSD (and other OSS) for Bugs

2006-01-11 Thread Axton
First post here, not sure if this is the right forum.  Let me know if not.

>From the article:

"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is extending the scope of
its protection to open-source software."
...
"The list of open-source projects that Stanford and Coverity plan to
check for security bugs includes Apache, BIND, Ethereal, KDE, Linux,
Firefox, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL and MySQL..."

http://news.com.com/Homeland+Security+helps+secure+open-source+code/2100-1002_3-6025579.html

Axton



Re: Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
I think you should donate one to every member of OpenBSD.  I'll bet it'll be
supported in no time :-)

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 03:52:20PM +, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know it's kind of early, but is OpenBSD/i386 going to run peacefully
> on the yesterday-announced Apple MacBook Pro, or for that matter the
> iMac with Intel Code Duo processor? :-)
> 
> Anyone has any plans on this matter?
> 
> Cheers,
> Constantine.



Re: Problems mounting cdrom

2006-01-11 Thread Jean-Marc HARANG

Joachim Schipper wrote:


I want some of that spares you have.
 


:)


Aside from that, I don't see anything obviously wrong outside the error
message itself. Is cd0 working correctly under other OSes? Are all
cables securely in place? Does switching cd0 and cd1 help?
 

I waste a lot of time one day, trying help a friend with a similar case 
... The cd  was  empty (not  burned !) . Took the bad one on the top of 
the stack ...


Try to read *this* cd on an another spare too ;)

--
jean-marc



Apple MacBook Pro support

2006-01-11 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
Hi,

I know it's kind of early, but is OpenBSD/i386 going to run peacefully
on the yesterday-announced Apple MacBook Pro, or for that matter the
iMac with Intel Code Duo processor? :-)

Anyone has any plans on this matter?

Cheers,
Constantine.



Re: Problems mounting cdrom

2006-01-11 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:23:21PM +0100, Anders Normann wrote:
> I am a newbie when it comes to OpenBSD, but have already set up my 
> web-server with 3.8 and is quite happy with the ease of installation and 
> the way it behaves. Have also installed 3.8 on a spare pc which sits in 
> a closet and is used for testing. Use ssh to connect to that pc.
> 
> But ran into problems when trying to mount a cd by the command: mount -t 
> cd9660 /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom which returned the error message: 
> input/output error.
> Thereafter it was impossible to release the cd and trying to "umount" it 
> was to no avail; it was not mounted!
> 
> What am I doing wrong? Include the output of dmesg.
> 
> OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
> cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.42 GHz
> cpu0:
> FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,CNXT-ID
> real mem = 1073258496 (1048104K)

I want some of that spares you have.

Aside from that, I don't see anything obviously wrong outside the error
message itself. Is cd0 working correctly under other OSes? Are all
cables securely in place? Does switching cd0 and cd1 help?

Joachim



Re: dante (sockd) + BSD passwd authentication

2006-01-11 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:11:37PM -0500, Matthew Closson wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Matthew Closson wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm trying to get sockd (A SOCKS4/5 proxy from the 
> >/usr/ports/security/dante port) working with BSD username/password 
> >authentication.  Currently it is saying userauthentication failed.  I have 
> >made sure it is not something simple like wrong password.  Here is the 
> >relevant info:
 
> After looking at the source a bit it seems that this is comparing the 
> socks password to the encrypted hash in /etc/passwd using crypt() - DES.
> Obviously this won't work for OpenBSD being blowfish and using 
> /etc/master.passwd.  Does anyone have a patch already to make it use the 
> proper facility and blowfish hash?  If I don't get any replies I'll try to 
> write one for it.  Thanks,

I don't claim to know anything about sockd, but search the manpage of
crypt() for 'Blowfish' before trying anything too fancy. If you are
really sure that this is the problem, you'll most likely also want to
talk to the maintainer.

BTW, there appear to be a host of better-suited functions, that, for
example, will still work if the password is not hashed with Blowfish
(but with, say, MD5). Start your search with auth_userokay(3), and keep
following references until you are satisfied with both what the
functions will allow users to do, and what it will not.

Joachim

Joachim



Re: Henning is gone?

2006-01-11 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:19:09 +0100, Han Boetes wrote:

>Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:32:58 +0059, Han Boetes wrote:
>> > I just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got a bounce
>> > back. Has he stopped working for OpenBSD? I haven't seen a
>> > commit from him in month.
>>
>> Is this (from misc@) enough?
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:10:50 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
>
>Well he is still posting here indeed, but with another
>email-address. And his latest commit is from 27/11/05:
>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=113310877522768&w=2
>
>That makes me a bad searcher.
>
>But still... his [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced.
>
>
>
>
># Han
>
>
The latest I have is:
Received: (qmail 16645 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Dec 2005 13:26:04 -
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:26:04 +0100
From: Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><<--8
To: pf@benzedrine.cx

FWIW.


>From the land "down under": Australia.
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Re: Connect a Zaurus 3100 to a VGA monitor/projector

2006-01-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/01/11 09:21, Maik Kuendig wrote:
>  However, you will need a
>   USB host cable (mini A) and a powered hub.

ah, this reminds me, and it may be useful for someone here:
you can get mini-A (USB OTG) to standard-B cables from Lindy.
They're not as convenient as the normal Zhost cable for just
plugging in a mouse, but if you want to connect to a printer
or hub with the right socket, it saves chaining cables (and
they're cheaper than Zhost too).



Re: Henning is gone?

2006-01-11 Thread Han Boetes
Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:32:58 +0059, Han Boetes wrote:
> > I just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got a bounce
> > back. Has he stopped working for OpenBSD? I haven't seen a
> > commit from him in month.
>
> Is this (from misc@) enough?
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:10:50 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:

Well he is still posting here indeed, but with another
email-address. And his latest commit is from 27/11/05:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=113310877522768&w=2

That makes me a bad searcher.

But still... his [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced.




# Han



Re: Henning is gone?

2006-01-11 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:32:58 +0059, Han Boetes wrote:

>Hi, 
>
>I just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got a bounce
>back. Has he stopped working for OpenBSD? I haven't seen a commit
>from him in month.
>
>Also I don't know any other email-address of him so I can't email
>him any other way.
>
>I wanted to request that the ./configure of openntpd-p will no
>longer sport a --privsep-dir setting and that the readme mentions
>that the homedir of the privsep user should be an empty directory
>with permissions 700, owned by root. The current situation got me
>confused.
>
>
>
># Han
>
>


Is this (from misc@) enough?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:10:50 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:

>* Sylvain Coutant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-11 00:53]:
>> > > I'm not sure, but some of them (I think localpref defined in a group)
>> > require the whole daemon to be restarted.
>> > certainly not.
>> So what should I do to change the localpref assigned this way ? "neighbor 
>> clear" did not changed the localpref last time I checked ...
>
>it does.
>
>it would be a bug otherwise, but I am certain it does.
>
>-- 
>BS Web Services, http://www.bsws.de/
>OpenBSD-based Webhosting, Mail Services, Managed Servers, ...
>Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
>(Dennis Ritchie)
>
>From the land "down under": Australia.
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Henning is gone?

2006-01-11 Thread Han Boetes
Hi, 

I just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got a bounce
back. Has he stopped working for OpenBSD? I haven't seen a commit
from him in month.

Also I don't know any other email-address of him so I can't email
him any other way.

I wanted to request that the ./configure of openntpd-p will no
longer sport a --privsep-dir setting and that the readme mentions
that the homedir of the privsep user should be an empty directory
with permissions 700, owned by root. The current situation got me
confused.



# Han



Re: Connect a Zaurus 3100 to a VGA monitor/projector

2006-01-11 Thread Guido Tschakert

Zoong PHAM wrote:

Does anyone know if a Zaurus 3100 can work with any VGA
monitor/projector?
And where can I buy a VGA adapter for Zaurus 3100?

Thanks,
Zoong



Hello,

maybe you have a look here
http://www.trisoft.de/zxgacf.htm (sorry it's German)
and here:
http://www.iodata.com/manuals/CFXGA/e_manual.html

But I dunno if it works under OpenBSD because I have no Zaurus 3100 and 
my girlfriend will kill me if I buy one just for fun ;-)


guido



Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

2006-01-11 Thread Xavier Santolaria
so spake Xavier Santolaria on Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:08:55AM CET:
> CVSROOT:  /cvs
> Module name:  src
> Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   2006/01/11 01:08:53
> 
> Modified files:
>   share/man/man4/man4.macppc: asms.4 
> 
> Log message:
> add HARDWARE and HISTORY section; ok [EMAIL PROTECTED]

people whoe have asms(4) on their PowerBook/iBook, please send your
dmesg to me or dmesg@ and the sysctl hw.sensors output. thanks.



Re: Connect a Zaurus 3100 to a VGA monitor/projector

2006-01-11 Thread Maik Kuendig
Hallo, 
 
Zoong PHAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> Does anyone know if a Zaurus 3100 can work with any VGA
> monitor/projector?

may this helps you, found here:
  http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/

  I have found a USB to VGA adaptor which can be used with the Zaurus.
  It is made by Sain and contains a SiS 315E graphics chip and there is
  a custom driver for it ported to the Zaurus. With the driver and
  special application installed, you can use this adaptor to connect
  your Zaurus to a VGA monitor or projector. However, you will need a
  USB host cable (mini A) and a powered hub. You cannot plug this
  adaptor straight into the Zaurus. It requires additional power from
  the USB hub.


Maik