Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-18 Thread David Cathcart
Just a note, although supermicro says max 2g of ram, the X7SLA-H works well with
4G of ram. 

spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
hw.physmem=3748265984
hw.usermem=3748057088

Fits in our 1u chassis well. Sensors work. 

David

On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:40:18AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
 * Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net [2009-11-09 00:57]:
  supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
  with it.
  
  Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any
  feedback may be?
 
 same as on the real supermicros: works like a charm.
 
  Just looking for minimum like the LOM on the old SUN V100 and the
  like. Don't need CD remote mount and all that. SSH over Ethernet
  would be nice, but I can deal without it. Sad that none of these
  board actually have a decent remote console without the need for
  additional board when it's possible.
 
 err, they have console redirection, not a LOM. you can use the bios
 over cereal, that's it. i haven't seen anything as good as sun's
 LOMlite and ALOM anywhere. Ironically, I have seen total failures
 trying to make something like LOM - from sun. Epic fail in their
 X2100 and X4250 (or so). don't get me started on ipmi.
 
 just noticed dmesg might be useful. cardbus slot (and the 3G card
 therein) are on a PCI card, all the rest onboard.
 
 OpenBSD 4.6-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Aug  8 05:30:38 CEST 2009
 henn...@terak.bsws.de:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
 real mem  = 2145595392 (2046MB)
 avail mem = 2065874944 (1970MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 05/05/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, 
 SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfd160 (27 entries)
 bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 1.0 date 05/05/2009
 bios0: Supermicro X7SLA
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET
 acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) EUSB(S4) MC97(S4) 
 P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) LAN0(S1) P0P9(S4) LAN1(S1) 
 USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) USB3(S4) SLPB(S4)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu1: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu2: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
 cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu3: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 4
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P2)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P1)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P4)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P5)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P6)
 acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P7)
 acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P8)
 acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P9)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0
 acpicpu1 at acpi0
 acpicpu2 at acpi0
 acpicpu3 at acpi0
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
 acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xaa00!
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945G Host rev 0x02
 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945G Video rev 0x02
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 intagp0 at vga1
 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000
 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 10)
 drm0 at inteldrm0
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 
 (irq 10)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 
 (irq 10)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x02: RTL8168C/8111C 
 (0x3c00), apic 4 int 16 (irq 10), address 00:30:48:db:03:f2
 rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01: apic 4 int 17 
 

Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-09 Thread Henning Brauer
* Steve Shockley steve.shock...@shockley.net [2009-11-09 04:59]:
 On 11/8/2009 7:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:
 cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
 
 They brought back hyper-threading?  Huh.

two cores * two threads, yes. and I see nothing wrong with that.

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Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-09 Thread David Vasek

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Henning Brauer wrote:


* Steve Shockley steve.shock...@shockley.net [2009-11-09 04:59]:

On 11/8/2009 7:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:

cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz


They brought back hyper-threading?  Huh.


two cores * two threads, yes. and I see nothing wrong with that.


Do things like this still apply? Is hyper-threading still considered 
insecure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading#Security

In its Pentium 4 era it was recommended to always disable HT for security 
reasons.


Regards,
David



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-09 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM, David Vasek va...@fido.cz wrote:
 Do things like this still apply? Is hyper-threading still considered
 insecure?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading#Security

Nothing has changed.  Neither the attack, nor the threat it actually
poses to you.



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-11-09, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
 err, they have console redirection, not a LOM. you can use the bios
 over cereal, that's it. i haven't seen anything as good as sun's
 LOMlite and ALOM anywhere.

HP iLO is surprisingly useful here - even the free embedded version on
the cheap tower servers e.g. ML110 lets you switch a single physical
serial port between an admin interface (with power control, reboot and
basic access to monitoring) and the real serial port (the user
interface and documentation are horrible, but it works).

OTOH remote power bars aren't all that expensive and you have a
consistent UI between machine vendors that way. (and HP rack servers
don't seem to have the nice discounts that keep coming up on the
low-end towers...)



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-08 Thread Didier Wiroth
On Saturday 07 November 2009 18:51:03 Henning Brauer wrote:
 supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
 with it.

Thank you very much for your feedback, it gave me a good overview!!!

This one looks really nice.
I think I'm gonna buy one of this model:
1) supermicro SuperServer 5015A-H
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H
2) with an  optional MCP-220-00044-0N to put two 750GB 2.5 HDD in it.
(running their onboard SATA  RAID 1 support)
3) with 1x 2GB ram
4) running current.

I have an additional question. The only (drawback), is that you can only put a 
maximum of 2 disks in this server. If possible, I would love to expand the 
storage support (get more giga/terabyte to be able to securely store my 
multimedia library, via in- or external storage, perhaps via their optional 
riser card (pci-e x8). I'm not a hardware expert, so I would really 
appreciate your opinions/ideas about what you would do.

Kind regards,
Didier



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Didier Wiroth dwir...@gmail.com [2009-11-08 14:36]:
 On Saturday 07 November 2009 18:51:03 Henning Brauer wrote:
  supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
  with it.
 
 Thank you very much for your feedback, it gave me a good overview!!!
 
 This one looks really nice.
 I think I'm gonna buy one of this model:
 1) supermicro SuperServer 5015A-H
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-H.cfm?typ=H
 2) with an  optional MCP-220-00044-0N to put two 750GB 2.5 HDD in it.
 (running their onboard SATA  RAID 1 support)

the onboard raid is none, that is the usual fake raid. you can use
softraid just fine tho.

 3) with 1x 2GB ram
 4) running current.
 
 I have an additional question. The only (drawback), is that you can only put 
 a 
 maximum of 2 disks in this server. If possible, I would love to expand the 
 storage support (get more giga/terabyte to be able to securely store my 
 multimedia library, via in- or external storage, perhaps via their optional 
 riser card (pci-e x8). I'm not a hardware expert, so I would really 
 appreciate your opinions/ideas about what you would do.

well, you can of course use the atom board in another case (giving up
the silent and energy efficient points a bit tho). there's the 4x
3.5 SATA 1U case...


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Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet

supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
with it.


Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any feedback 
may be?


Just looking for minimum like the LOM on the old SUN V100 and the like. 
Don't need CD remote mount and all that. SSH over Ethernet would be 
nice, but I can deal without it. Sad that none of these board actually 
have a decent remote console without the need for additional board when 
it's possible.


That's really all that I am really missing the most in the various new 
boxes these days. Just can't get one small with decent remote console 
access.


Thanks for any feedback if you have time and ever tried it.

Best,

Daniel



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net [2009-11-09 00:57]:
 supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
 with it.
 
 Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any
 feedback may be?

same as on the real supermicros: works like a charm.

 Just looking for minimum like the LOM on the old SUN V100 and the
 like. Don't need CD remote mount and all that. SSH over Ethernet
 would be nice, but I can deal without it. Sad that none of these
 board actually have a decent remote console without the need for
 additional board when it's possible.

err, they have console redirection, not a LOM. you can use the bios
over cereal, that's it. i haven't seen anything as good as sun's
LOMlite and ALOM anywhere. Ironically, I have seen total failures
trying to make something like LOM - from sun. Epic fail in their
X2100 and X4250 (or so). don't get me started on ipmi.

just noticed dmesg might be useful. cardbus slot (and the 3G card
therein) are on a PCI card, all the rest onboard.

OpenBSD 4.6-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Aug  8 05:30:38 CEST 2009
henn...@terak.bsws.de:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
real mem  = 2145595392 (2046MB)
avail mem = 2065874944 (1970MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 05/05/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS 
rev. 2.5 @ 0xfd160 (27 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 1.0 date 05/05/2009
bios0: Supermicro X7SLA
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) EUSB(S4) MC97(S4) 
P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) LAN0(S1) P0P9(S4) LAN1(S1) 
USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) USB3(S4) SLPB(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu2: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu3: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 4
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P4)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P5)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P6)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P7)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P8)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P9)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpicpu1 at acpi0
acpicpu2 at acpi0
acpicpu3 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xaa00!
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945G Host rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945G Video rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 10)
drm0 at inteldrm0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 
(irq 10)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 (irq 
10)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x02: RTL8168C/8111C (0x3c00), 
apic 4 int 16 (irq 10), address 00:30:48:db:03:f2
rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01: apic 4 int 17 (irq 
11)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
re1 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x02: RTL8168C/8111C (0x3c00), 
apic 4 int 17 (irq 11), address 00:30:48:db:03:f3
rgephy1 at re1 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 4 int 23 
(irq 5)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 4 int 19 
(irq 7)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 4 int 18 
(irq 6)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16 
(irq 10)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 4 int 23 

Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Henning Brauer wrote:

* Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net [2009-11-09 00:57]:

supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
with it.

Henning, how's the remote console redirection on that box? Any
feedback may be?


same as on the real supermicros: works like a charm.


Many thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated! I guess I will need to 
try one next then.


Good to know.

Best as always,

Daniel



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-08 Thread Steve Shockley

On 11/8/2009 7:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:

cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.61 GHz


They brought back hyper-threading?  Huh.



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Sergio Aguayo wrote:


I have a Sun Cobalt RaQ 550. However that one runs Linux but with latest 
firmware versions i've been told that it can run NetBSD, but not OpenBSD.


The RaQ 550 like all the other RaQ and cube units, never had a success 
at OpenBSD. There was a very old may be something going on for the RaQ 
2+ , many years ago, but the RaQ3 and up including the 550 run i386 
oppose to the previous version that run MIPS and to my knowledge and in 
the archive there isn't any success for OpenBSD on them. I wish someone 
would prove me wrong, but as far as I know there isn't been any success 
on it. Not much interest in it I guess, plus I am not sure anyone have 
any time for it either.


You can run NetBSD on them and it's pretty stable and good if you want 
to go that way and the RaQ 550 is dirt cheap on EBay too. You can have 
one for $20 or less including shipping to your house, in the US anyway.


What I do like for small server that are the same size is the Sun X1 if 
you can get them with good memory as if you need to add them later, it's 
not worth it really. I mean price wise anyway, but sure run well, nice 
and for a long time and just pretty lower in power too. Less the 10 
watts if you do it right. A bit noise with the default fan however.


But I wonder these days if you are not better just to built your own 
with the new very small board available and price wise they have been 
going down a lots in the last few years too and cpu power and all really 
do not compare anymore.


Good luck.



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Tom Van Looy
Didier Wiroth wrote:
 I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
 hardware at home?
 Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
 Can you recommend a european online reseller?

This seems nice too:
http://www.descom.be/configurator_server.php?mode=type=17



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Stijn

Didier Wiroth wrote:

Hello,

I would like to buy/build a low power 19 rack-mount server for home
usage that will run openbsd.
The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp  dns caching

I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
hardware at home?
Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
Can you recommend a european online reseller?

Thank you very very much for your advices!
Kind regards,
Didier



  

How about these ones:
http://linitx.com/viewcategory.php?catid=123pp=116,123
I haven't used any of those though.

I bought this one for home use, and I'm very happy with it:
http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12137

You can find more information on the vendor's home page:
http://www.lex.com.tw/

And here's the obligatory dmesg  sysctl porn (yes, I know, it needs a 
more current snapshot...)


HTH,
Stijn

OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC) #123: Sat Aug 22 14:20:26 MDT 2009
   dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA C7 Processor 1000MHz (CentaurHauls 686-class) 1.01 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3,EST,TM2,xTPR

real mem  = 1005023232 (958MB)
avail mem = 964964352 (920MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/22/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf9f00, 
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf (33 entries)

bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD version 6.00 PG date 08/22/2008
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (slowidle)
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xd654
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfd550/240 (13 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x08100a1308000a13
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1001 MHz: speeds: 1333, 1067 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
viaagp0 at pchb0: v3
agp0 at viaagp0: aperture at 0xe800, size 0x1000
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 VIA PT890 Host rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8377 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 VIA S3 Unichrome PRO IGP rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
em0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 
10, address 00:30:18:4c:18:c9
em1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 
11, address 00:30:18:4c:18:ca
em2 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 
5, address 00:30:18:4c:18:cb
ral0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Ralink RT2561 rev 0x00: irq 11, address 
00:08:a1:9c:33:68

ral0: MAC/BBP RT2661B, RF RT2527
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT6420 SATA rev 0x80: DMA
pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt
pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA133, 
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility

pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
wd0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0: SAMSUNG CF/ATA
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 497MB, 1018080 sectors
wd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 10
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 10
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 11
uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 11
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x86: irq 5
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 VIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 VIA VT8237 ISA rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-4200CL5
auvia0 at pci0 dev 17 function 5 VIA VT8233 AC97 rev 0x60: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x56494161 (VIA Technologies VT1612A)
ac97: codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, KS Waves 3D
audio0 at auvia0
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 VIA UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 VIA UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 VIA UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 VIA UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com0: console
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at 

Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt

Stijn wrote:

Didier Wiroth wrote:

Hello,

I would like to buy/build a low power 19 rack-mount server for home
usage that will run openbsd.
The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp  dns caching

I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
hardware at home?
Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
Can you recommend a european online reseller?

Thank you very very much for your advices!
Kind regards,
Didier



  


You can find more information on the vendor's home page:
http://www.lex.com.tw/




these machines look real nice. a shame i didn't find this site a year 
ago


are there any other manufacturers of fanless embedded systems like this 
out there?


cheers,
jake



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Didier Wiroth dwir...@gmail.com [2009-11-06 23:31]:
 I would like to buy/build a low power 19 rack-mount server for home
 usage that will run openbsd.
 The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
 kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp  dns caching
 
 I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
 hardware at home?
 Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
 Can you recommend a european online reseller?

supermicro has atom-based systems. i have such a board an am happy
with it.

-- 
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Diana Eichert

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Diana Eichert wrote:


The rackmount CP3100R1-320-S, Certance CP3100 360GB Rack Mount D2D2T
is a pretty cool armish box, which could be had for peanuts when
they went into surplus mode.  However serial console support is marginal, 
drahn@ built an install kernel for me with good enough

support to get OpenBSD up and running on mine.

diana


and just for grins there is one for sale right now on eflea

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220244385703

BTW, it's not mine. :-)



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-07 Thread Diana Eichert

The rackmount CP3100R1-320-S, Certance CP3100 360GB Rack Mount D2D2T
is a pretty cool armish box, which could be had for peanuts when
they went into surplus mode.  However serial console support is 
marginal, drahn@ built an install kernel for me with good enough

support to get OpenBSD up and running on mine.

diana



Re: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

2009-11-06 Thread Sergio Aguayo
Hello

I have a Sun Cobalt RaQ 550. However that one runs Linux but with latest 
firmware versions i've been told that it can run NetBSD, but not OpenBSD.

Just my 2 cents

Sergio Aguayo

- Original Message -
From: Didier Wiroth dwir...@gmail.com
To: misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 5:22:01 PM
Subject: anyone, low power rack-mount server for home usage?

Hello,

I would like to buy/build a low power 19 rack-mount server for home
usage that will run openbsd.
The server should be used for (secure hardware) file storage (some
kind of hardware raid would be nice), nfs server, dhcp  dns caching

I was wondering if some of you are using this type of low power
hardware at home?
Can you recommend such a rack-mount device?
Can you recommend a european online reseller?

Thank you very very much for your advices!
Kind regards,
Didier